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Thucydides

Thucydides (/θ(j)ˈsɪdɪˌdz/; Ancient Greek: Θουκυδίδης, romanizedThoukudídēs; c. 460 – c. 400 BC) was an Athenian historian and general. His History of the Peloponnesian War recounts the fifth-century BC war between Sparta and Athens until the year 411 BC. Thucydides has been dubbed the father of "scientific history" by those who accept his claims to have applied strict standards of impartiality and evidence-gathering and analysis of cause and effect, without reference to intervention by the gods, as outlined in his introduction to his work.[3][4][5]

Thucydides
Θουκυδίδης
Plaster cast bust of Thucydides (in the Pushkin Museum) from a Roman copy (located at Holkham Hall) of an early fourth-century BC Greek original
Bornc. 460 BC[1][2]
Halimous, Athens (modern Alimos)
Diedc. 400 BC
place of death unknown
Occupation(s)Historian, general
Notable workHistory of the Peloponnesian War
RelativesOloros (father)

He also has been called the father of the school of political realism, which views the political behavior of individuals and the subsequent outcomes of relations between states as ultimately mediated by, and constructed upon, fear and self-interest.[6] His text is still studied at universities and military colleges worldwide.[7] The Melian dialogue is regarded as a seminal work of international relations theory, while his version of Pericles' Funeral Oration is widely studied by political theorists, historians, and students of the classics.

More generally, Thucydides developed an understanding of human nature to explain behavior in such crises as plagues, massacres, and civil war.

Life

In spite of his stature as a historian, modern historians know relatively little about Thucydides's life. The most reliable information comes from his own History of the Peloponnesian War, in which he mentions his nationality, paternity, and birthplace. Thucydides says that he fought in the war, contracted the plague, and was exiled by the democracy. He may have also been involved in quelling the Samian Revolt.[8]

Evidence from the classical period

Thucydides identifies himself as an Athenian, telling us that his father's name was Olorus and that he was from the Athenian deme of Halimous.[9] A somewhat doubtful anecdote of his early life still exists. While still a youth of 10–12 years, he and his father were supposed to have gone to the agora of Athens where the young Thucydides heard a lecture by the historian Herodotus. According to some accounts, the young Thucydides wept with joy after hearing the lecture, deciding that writing history would be his life's calling. The same account also claims that after the lecture, Herodotus spoke with the youth and his father, stating: Oloros your son yearns for knowledge. In all essence, the episode is most likely from a later Greek or Roman account of his life.[10] He survived the Plague of Athens,[11] which killed Pericles and many other Athenians. There is a first observation of acquired immunity.[12] He also records that he owned gold mines at Scapte Hyle (literally "Dug Woodland"), a coastal area in Thrace, opposite the island of Thasos.[13]

 
The ruins of Amphipolis as envisaged by E. Cousinéry in 1831: the bridge over the Strymon, the city fortifications, and the acropolis

Because of his influence in the Thracian region, Thucydides wrote, he was sent as a strategos (general) to Thasos in 424 BC. During the winter of 424–423 BC, the Spartan general Brasidas attacked Amphipolis, a half-day's sail west from Thasos on the Thracian coast, sparking the Battle of Amphipolis. Eucles, the Athenian commander at Amphipolis, sent to Thucydides for help.[14] Brasidas, aware of the presence of Thucydides on Thasos and his influence with the people of Amphipolis, and afraid of help arriving by sea, acted quickly to offer moderate terms to the Amphipolitans for their surrender, which they accepted. Thus, when Thucydides arrived, Amphipolis was already under Spartan control.[15]

Amphipolis was of considerable strategic importance, and news of its fall caused great consternation in Athens.[16] It was blamed on Thucydides, although he claimed that it was not his fault and that he had simply been unable to reach it in time. Because of his failure to save Amphipolis, he was exiled:[17]

I lived through the whole of it, being of an age to comprehend events, and giving my attention to them in order to know the exact truth about them. It was also my fate to be an exile from my country for twenty years after my command at Amphipolis; and being present with both parties, and more especially with the Peloponnesians by reason of my exile, I had leisure to observe affairs somewhat particularly.

Using his status as an exile from Athens to travel freely among the Peloponnesian allies, he was able to view the war from the perspective of both sides. Thucydides claimed that he began writing his history as soon as the war broke out, because he thought it would be one of the greatest wars waged among the Greeks in terms of scale:

Thucydides, an Athenian, wrote the history of the war between the Peloponnesians and the Athenians, beginning at the moment that it broke out, and believing that it would be a great war, and more worthy of relation than any that had preceded it.[18]

This is all that Thucydides wrote about his own life, but a few other facts are available from reliable contemporary sources. Herodotus wrote that the name Olorus, Thucydides's father's name, was connected with Thrace and Thracian royalty.[19] Thucydides was probably connected through family to the Athenian statesman and general Miltiades and his son Cimon, leaders of the old aristocracy supplanted by the Radical Democrats. Cimon's maternal grandfather's name also was Olorus, making the connection quite likely. Another Thucydides lived before the historian and was also linked with Thrace, making a family connection between them very likely as well.

 
Thucydides Mosaic from Jerash, Jordan, Roman, 3rd century AD at the Pergamon Museum in Berlin

Combining all the fragmentary evidence available, it seems that his family had owned a large estate in Thrace, one that even contained gold mines, and which allowed the family considerable and lasting affluence. The security and continued prosperity of the wealthy estate must have necessitated formal ties with local kings or chieftains, which explains the adoption of the distinctly Thracian royal name Óloros into the family. Once exiled, Thucydides took permanent residence in the estate and, given his ample income from the gold mines, he was able to dedicate himself to full-time history writing and research, including many fact-finding trips. In essence, he was a well-connected gentleman of considerable resources who, after involuntarily retiring from the political and military spheres, decided to fund his own historical investigations.

Later sources

The remaining evidence for Thucydides' life comes from later and rather less reliable ancient sources; Marcellinus wrote Thucydides' biography about a thousand years after his death. According to Pausanias, someone named Oenobius had a law passed allowing Thucydides to return to Athens, presumably shortly after the city's surrender and the end of the war in 404 BC. Pausanias goes on to say that Thucydides was murdered on his way back to Athens, placing his tomb near the Melite gate.[20] Many doubt this account, seeing evidence to suggest he lived as late as 397 BC, or perhaps slightly later. Plutarch preserves a tradition that he was murdered in Skaptē Hulē and that his remains were returned to Athens, where a monument to him was erected in Cimon's family plot.[21] There are problems with this, since this was outside Thucydides' deme and the tradition goes back to Polemon, who asserted he had discovered just such a memorial.[22] Didymus mentions another tomb in Thrace.[23]

Thucydides' narrative breaks off in the middle of the year 411 BC, and this abrupt end has traditionally been explained as due to his death while writing the book, although other explanations have been put forward.

 
Bust of Pericles

Inferences about Thucydides' character can be drawn (with due caution) only from his book. His sardonic sense of humor is evident throughout, as when, during his description of the Athenian plague, he remarks that old Athenians seemed to remember a rhyme which said that with the Dorian War would come a "great death". Some claimed that the rhyme originally mentioned a [death by] "famine" or "starvation" (λιμός, limos[24]) and was remembered only later as [death by] "pestilence" (λοιμός, loimos[25]) due to the current plague. Thucydides then remarks that should another Dorian War come, this time attended with a great famine (λιμός), the rhyme will be remembered as "famine", and any mention of "plague" (λοιμός) forgotten.[26][27]

Thucydides admired Pericles, approving of his power over the people and showing a marked distaste for the demagogues who followed him. He did not approve of the democratic commoners nor of the radical democracy that Pericles ushered in, but considered democracy acceptable when guided by a good leader.[28] Thucydides' presentation of events is generally even-handed; for example, he does not minimize the negative effect of his own failure at Amphipolis. Occasionally, however, strong passions break through, as in his scathing appraisals of the democratic leaders Cleon[29][30] and Hyperbolus.[31] Sometimes, Cleon has been connected with Thucydides' exile.[32]

It has been argued that Thucydides was moved by the suffering inherent in war and concerned about the excesses to which human nature is prone in such circumstances, as in his analysis of the atrocities committed during the civil conflict on Corcyra,[33] which includes the phrase "war is a violent teacher" (πόλεμος βίαιος διδάσκαλος).

The History of the Peloponnesian War

 
10th-century minuscule manuscript of Thucydides's History of the Peloponnesian War

Thucydides believed that the Peloponnesian War represented an event of unmatched importance.[34] As such, he began to write the History at the onset of the war in 431 BC.[35][36] He declared his intention was to write an account which would serve as "a possession for all time".[37] The History breaks off near the end of the twenty-first year of the war (411 BC), in the wake of the Athenian defeat at Syracuse, and so does not elaborate on the final seven years of the conflict.

The History of the Peloponnesian War continued to be modified well beyond the end of the war in 404 BC, as exemplified by a reference at Book I.1.13[38] to the conclusion of the war.[39] After his death, Thucydides's History was subdivided into eight books: its modern title is the History of the Peloponnesian War. This subdivision was most likely made by librarians and archivists, themselves being historians and scholars, most likely working in the Library of Alexandria.[citation needed]

Thucydides is generally regarded as one of the first true historians. Like his predecessor Herodotus, known as "the father of history", Thucydides places a high value on eyewitness testimony and writes about events in which he probably took part. He also assiduously consulted written documents and interviewed participants about the events that he recorded. Unlike Herodotus, whose stories often teach that a hubris invites the wrath of the deities, Thucydides does not acknowledge divine intervention in human affairs.[40]

Thucydides exerted wide historiographical influence on subsequent Hellenistic and Roman historians, although the exact description of his style in relation to many successive historians remains unclear.[41] Readers in antiquity often placed the continuation of the stylistic legacy of the History in the writings of Thucydides' putative intellectual successor Xenophon. Such readings often described Xenophon's treatises as attempts to "finish" Thucydides's History. Many of these interpretations, however, have garnered significant scepticism among modern scholars, such as Dillery, who spurn the view of interpreting Xenophon qua Thucydides, arguing that the latter's "modern" history (defined as constructed based on literary and historical themes) is antithetical to the former's account in the Hellenica, which diverges from the Hellenic historiographical tradition in its absence of a preface or introduction to the text and the associated lack of an "overarching concept" unifying the history.[42]

 
Pericles's Funeral Oration (Perikles hält die Leichenrede) by Philipp Foltz (1852)[43]

A noteworthy difference between Thucydides's method of writing history and that of modern historians is Thucydides's inclusion of lengthy formal speeches that, as he states, were literary reconstructions rather than quotations of what was said—or, perhaps, what he believed ought to have been said. Arguably, had he not done this, the gist of what was said would not otherwise be known at all—whereas today there is a plethora of documentation—written records, archives, and recording technology for historians to consult. Therefore, Thucydides's method served to rescue his mostly oral sources from oblivion. We do not know how these historical figures spoke. Thucydides's recreation uses a heroic stylistic register. A celebrated example is Pericles' funeral oration, which heaps honour on the dead and includes a defence of democracy:

The whole earth is the sepulchre of famous men; they are honoured not only by columns and inscriptions in their own land, but in foreign nations on memorials graven not on stone but in the hearts and minds of men. (2:43)

Stylistically, the placement of this passage also serves to heighten the contrast with the description of the plague in Athens immediately following it, which graphically emphasizes the horror of human mortality, thereby conveying a powerful sense of verisimilitude:

Though many lay unburied, birds and beasts would not touch them, or died after tasting them [...]. The bodies of dying men lay one upon another, and half-dead creatures reeled about the streets and gathered round all the fountains in their longing for water. The sacred places also in which they had quartered themselves were full of corpses of persons who had died there, just as they were; for, as the disaster passed all bounds, men, not knowing what was to become of them, became equally contemptuous of the property of and the dues to the deities. All the burial rites before in use were entirely upset, and they buried the bodies as best they could. Many from want of the proper appliances, through so many of their friends having died already, had recourse to the most shameless sepultures: sometimes getting the start of those who had raised a pile, they threw their own dead body upon the stranger's pyre and ignited it; sometimes they tossed the corpse which they were carrying on the top of another that was burning, and so went off. (2:52)

Thucydides omits discussion of the arts, literature, or the social milieu in which the events in his book take place and in which he grew up. He saw himself as recording an event, not a period, and went to considerable lengths to exclude what he deemed frivolous or extraneous.

Philosophical outlook and influences

Paul Shorey calls Thucydides "a cynic devoid of moral sensibility".[44] In addition, he notes that Thucydides conceived of human nature as strictly determined by one's physical and social environments, alongside basic desires.[45] Francis Cornford was more nuanced: Thucydides' political vision was informed by a tragic ethical vision, in which:

Man, isolated from, and opposed to, Nature, moves along a narrow path, unrelated to what lies beyond and lighted only by a few dim rays of human 'foresight'(γνώμη/gnome), or by the false, wandering fires of Hope. He bears within him, self-contained, his destiny in his own character: and this, with the purposes which arise out of it, shapes his course. That is all, in Thucydides' view, that we can say: except that, now and again, out of the surrounding darkness comes the blinding strokes of Fortune, unaccountable and unforeseen.'[46]

Thucydides' work indicates an influence from the teachings of the Sophists that contributes substantially to the thinking and character of his History.[47] Possible evidence includes his skeptical ideas concerning justice and morality.[48] There are also elements within the History—such as his views on nature revolving around the factual, empirical, and the non-anthropomorphic—which suggest that he was at least aware of the views of philosophers such as Anaxagoras and Democritus. There is also evidence of his knowledge concerning some of the corpus of Hippocratic medical writings.[49]

Thucydides was especially interested in the relationship between human intelligence and judgment,[50] Fortune and Necessity,[51] and the idea that history is too irrational and incalculable to predict.[52]

Critical interpretation

 
Bust of Thucydides residing in the Royal Ontario Museum, Toronto

Scholars traditionally viewed Thucydides as recognizing and teaching the lesson that democracies need leadership but that leadership can be dangerous to democracy. Leo Strauss (in The City and Man) locates the problem in the nature of Athenian democracy, about which, he argued, Thucydides was ambivalent. Thucydides's "wisdom was made possible" by the Periclean democracy, which had the effect of liberating individual daring, enterprise and questioning spirit; this liberation, by permitting the growth of limitless political ambition, led to imperialism and eventually, to civic strife.[53]

For Canadian historian Charles Norris Cochrane (1889–1945), Thucydides's fastidious devotion to observable phenomena, focus on cause and effect and strict exclusion of other factors anticipates twentieth-century scientific positivism. Cochrane, the son of a physician, speculated that Thucydides generally (and especially in describing the plague in Athens) was influenced by the methods and thinking of early medical writers such as Hippocrates of Kos.[3]

After World War II, classical scholar Jacqueline de Romilly pointed out that the problem of Athenian imperialism was one of Thucydides's preoccupations and situated his history in the context of Greek thinking about international politics. Since the appearance of her study, other scholars further examined Thucydides's treatment of realpolitik.[citation needed]

Other scholars have brought to the fore the literary qualities of the History, which they see in the narrative tradition of Homer and Hesiod and as concerned with the concepts of justice and suffering found in Plato and Aristotle and questioned in Aeschylus and Sophocles.[54] Richard Ned Lebow terms Thucydides "the last of the tragedians", stating that "Thucydides drew heavily on epic poetry and tragedy to construct his history, which not surprisingly is also constructed as a narrative".[55] In this view, the blind and immoderate behaviour of the Athenians (and indeed of all the other actors)—although perhaps intrinsic to human nature—leads to their downfall. Thus his History could serve as a warning to leaders to be more prudent, by putting them on notice that someone would be scrutinizing their actions with a historian's objectivity rather than a chronicler's flattery.[56]

The historian J. B. Bury writes that the work of Thucydides "marks the longest and most decisive step that has ever been taken by a single man towards making history what it is today".[57]

Historian H. D. Kitto feels that Thucydides wrote about the Peloponnesian War, not because it was the most significant war in antiquity but because it caused the most suffering. Several passages of Thucydides's book are written "with an intensity of feeling hardly exceeded by Sappho herself".[58]

In his book The Open Society and Its Enemies, Karl Popper writes that Thucydides was the "greatest historian, perhaps, who ever lived". Thucydides's work, Popper goes on to say, represents "an interpretation, a point of view; and in this we need not agree with him". In the war between Athenian democracy and the "arrested oligarchic tribalism of Sparta", we must never forget Thucydides's "involuntary bias", and that "his heart was not with Athens, his native city."

Although he apparently did not belong to the extreme wing of the Athenian oligarchic clubs who conspired throughout the war with the enemy, he was certainly a member of the oligarchic party, and a friend neither of the Athenian people, the demos, who had exiled him, nor of its imperialist policy.[59]

Comparison with Herodotus

 
Double herm showing Herodotus and Thucydides. Farnese Collection, Naples

Thucydides and his immediate predecessor, Herodotus, both exerted a significant influence on Western historiography. Thucydides does not mention his counterpart by name, but his famous introductory statement is thought to refer to him:[60][61]

To hear this history rehearsed, for that there be inserted in it no fables, shall be perhaps not delightful. But he that desires to look into the truth of things done, and which (according to the condition of humanity) may be done again, or at least their like, shall find enough herein to make him think it profitable. And it is compiled rather for an everlasting possession than to be rehearsed for a prize. (1:22)

Herodotus records in his Histories not only the events of the Persian Wars, but also geographical and ethnographical information, as well as the fables related to him during his extensive travels. Typically, he passes no definitive judgment on what he has heard. In the case of conflicting or unlikely accounts, he presents both sides, says what he believes and then invites readers to decide for themselves.[62] Of course, modern historians would generally leave out their personal beliefs, which is a form of passing judgment upon the events and people about which the historian is reporting. The work of Herodotus is reported to have been recited at festivals, where prizes were awarded, as for example, during the games at Olympia.[63]

Herodotus views history as a source of moral lessons, with conflicts and wars as misfortunes flowing from initial acts of injustice perpetuated through cycles of revenge.[64] In contrast, Thucydides claims to confine himself to factual reports of contemporary political and military events, based on unambiguous, first-hand, eye-witness accounts,[65] although, unlike Herodotus, he does not reveal his sources. Thucydides views life exclusively as political life, and history in terms of political history. Conventional moral considerations play no role in his analysis of political events while geographic and ethnographic aspects are omitted or, at best, of secondary importance. Subsequent Greek historians—such as Ctesias, Diodorus, Strabo, Polybius and Plutarch—held up Thucydides's writings as a model of truthful history. Lucian[66] refers to Thucydides as having given Greek historians their law, requiring them to say what had been done (ὡς ἐπράχθη). Greek historians of the fourth century BC accepted that history was political and that contemporary history was the proper domain of a historian.[67] Cicero calls Herodotus the "father of history";[68] yet the Greek writer Plutarch, in his Moralia (Ethics) denigrated Herodotus, notably calling him a philobarbaros, a "barbarian lover", to the detriment of the Greeks.[69] Unlike Thucydides, however, these authors all continued to view history as a source of moral lessons, thereby infusing their works with personal biases generally missing from Thucydides' clear-eyed, non-judgmental writings focused on reporting events in a non-biased manner.

Due to the loss of the ability to read Greek, Thucydides and Herodotus were largely forgotten during the Middle Ages in Western Europe, although their influence continued in the Byzantine world. In Europe, Herodotus become known and highly respected only in the late-sixteenth and early-seventeenth century as an ethnographer, in part due to the discovery of America, where customs and animals were encountered that were even more surprising than what he had related. During the Reformation, moreover, information about Middle Eastern countries in the Histories provided a basis for establishing Biblical chronology as advocated by Isaac Newton.

The first European translation of Thucydides (into Latin) was made by the humanist Lorenzo Valla between 1448 and 1452, and the first Greek edition was published by Aldo Manuzio in 1502. During the Renaissance, however, Thucydides attracted less interest among Western European historians as a political philosopher than his successor, Polybius,[70] although Poggio Bracciolini claimed to have been influenced by him. There is not much evidence of Thucydides's influence in Niccolò Machiavelli's The Prince (1513), which held that the chief aim of a new prince must be to "maintain his state" [i.e., his power] and that in so doing he is often compelled to act against faith, humanity, and religion. Later historians, such as J. B. Bury, however, have noted parallels between them:

If, instead of a history, Thucydides had written an analytical treatise on politics, with particular reference to the Athenian empire, it is probable that ... he could have forestalled Machiavelli ... [since] the whole innuendo of the Thucydidean treatment of history agrees with the fundamental postulate of Machiavelli, the supremacy of reason of state. To maintain a state, said the Florentine thinker, "a statesman is often compelled to act against faith, humanity and religion". ... But ... the true Machiavelli, not the Machiavelli of fable ... entertained an ideal: Italy for the Italians, Italy freed from the stranger: and in the service of this ideal he desired to see his speculative science of politics applied. Thucydides has no political aim in view: he was purely a historian. But it was part of the method of both alike to eliminate conventional sentiment and morality.[71]

 
Thomas Hobbes translated Thucydides directly from Greek into English

In the seventeenth century, the English political philosopher Thomas Hobbes, whose Leviathan advocated absolute monarchy, admired Thucydides and in 1628 was the first to translate his writings into English directly from Greek. Thucydides, Hobbes, and Machiavelli are together considered the founding fathers of western political realism, according to which, state policy must primarily or solely focus on the need to maintain military and economic power rather than on ideals or ethics.

Nineteenth-century positivist historians stressed what they saw as Thucydides's seriousness, his scientific objectivity and his advanced handling of evidence. A virtual cult following developed among such German philosophers as Friedrich Schelling, Friedrich Schlegel, and Friedrich Nietzsche, who claimed that, "[in Thucydides], the portrayer of Man, that culture of the most impartial knowledge of the world finds its last glorious flower." The late-eighteenth-century Swiss historian Johannes von Müller described Thucydides as "the favourite author of the greatest and noblest men, and one of the best teachers of the wisdom of human life".[72] For Eduard Meyer, Thomas Babington Macaulay and Leopold von Ranke, who initiated modern source-based history writing,[73] Thucydides was again the model historian.[74][75]

Generals and statesmen loved him: the world he drew was theirs, an exclusive power-brokers' club. It is no accident that even today Thucydides turns up as a guiding spirit in military academies, neocon think tanks and the writings of men like Henry Kissinger; whereas Herodotus has been the choice of imaginative novelists (Michael Ondaatje's novel The English Patient and the film based on it boosted the sale of the Histories to a wholly unforeseen degree) and—as food for a starved soul—of an equally imaginative foreign correspondent from Iron Curtain Poland, Ryszard Kapuscinski.[76]

These historians also admired Herodotus, however, as social and ethnographic history increasingly came to be recognized as complementary to political history.[77] In the twentieth century, this trend gave rise to the works of Johan Huizinga, Marc Bloch, and Fernand Braudel, who pioneered the study of long-term cultural and economic developments and the patterns of everyday life. The Annales School, which exemplifies this direction, has been viewed as extending the tradition of Herodotus.[78]

At the same time, Thucydides's influence was increasingly important in the area of international relations during the Cold War, through the work of Hans Morgenthau, Leo Strauss,[79] and Edward Carr.[80]

The tension between the Thucydidean and Herodotean traditions extends beyond historical research. According to Irving Kristol, self-described founder of American neoconservatism, Thucydides wrote "the favorite neoconservative text on foreign affairs";[81] and Thucydides is a required text at the Naval War College, an American institution located in Rhode Island. On the other hand, Daniel Mendelsohn, in a review of a recent edition of Herodotus, suggests that, at least in his graduate school days during the Cold War, professing admiration of Thucydides served as a form of self-presentation:

To be an admirer of Thucydides' History, with its deep cynicism about political, rhetorical and ideological hypocrisy, with its all too recognizable protagonists—a liberal yet imperialistic democracy and an authoritarian oligarchy, engaged in a war of attrition fought by proxy at the remote fringes of empire—was to advertise yourself as a hardheaded connoisseur of global Realpolitik.[82]

Another contemporary historian believes that,[83] while it is true that critical history "began with Thucydides, one may also argue that Herodotus' looking at the past as a reason why the present is the way it is, and to search for causality for events beyond the realms of Tyche and the Gods, was a much larger step."[citation needed]

See also

Notes

  1. ^ Virginia J. Hunter,Past and Process in Herodotus and Thucydides, (Princeton University Press, 2017), 4.
  2. ^ Luciano Canfora,'Biographical Obscurities and Problems of Composition,' in Antonis Tsakmakis, Antonios Rengakos (eds.), Brill's Companion to Thucydides, Brill, 2006 ISBN 978-9-047-40484-2, pp. 3–31.
  3. ^ a b Cochrane, Charles Norris (1929). Thucydides and the Science of History. Oxford University Press. p. 179.
  4. ^ Meyer, p. 67; de Sainte Croix.
  5. ^ Korab-Karpowicz, W. Julian (26 July 2010). "Political Realism in International Relations". In Edward N. Zalta (ed.). The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Summer 2013 ed.). Retrieved 2016-03-23.
  6. ^ Strauss, p. 139.
  7. ^ Harloe, Katherine, Morley, Neville, eds., Thucydides and the Modern World: Reception, Reinterpretation, and Influence from the Renaissance to the Present. Cambridge, Cambridge University Press (2012). p. 12
  8. ^ Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War 1.117
  9. ^ Thucydides 4.104
  10. ^ Herodot iz Halikarnasa. Zgodbe. Ljubljana: Slovenska Matica v Ljubljani (2003), p. 22. The original quote (in Slovene): Oloros, tvoj sin koprni po izobrazbi.
  11. ^ Thucydides 2.48.1–3
  12. ^ Thucydides 2.51.6
  13. ^ Thucydides 4.105.1
  14. ^ Thucydides 4.104.1
  15. ^ Thucydides 4.105–106.3
  16. ^ Thucydides 4.108.1–7
  17. ^ Thucydides 5.26.5
  18. ^ "Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War, book 1, chapter 1, section 1". data.perseus.org. Retrieved 2018-03-07.
  19. ^ 6.39.1
  20. ^ Pausanias, Description of Greece, 1.23.9
  21. ^ Plutarch, Cimon 4.1.2
  22. ^ Luciano Canfora( 2006). “Biographical Obscurities and Problems of Composition” Antonis Tsakmakis, Antonios Rengakos (eds.). Brill's Companion to Thucydides Brill, ISBN 978-90-474-0484-2 pp. 6–7, 63–33
  23. ^ Canfora (2006). p. 8
  24. ^ "Μετάφραση Google". Retrieved 2016-03-23 – via google.com.
  25. ^ "Μετάφραση Google". google.com. Retrieved 2016-03-23.
  26. ^ [1] Greek text
  27. ^ Liddell & Scott (translations)
  28. ^ Thucydides 2.65.1
  29. ^ Thucydides 3.36.6
  30. ^ Thucydides 4.27, 5.16.1
  31. ^ Thucydides 8.73.3
  32. ^ Marcellinus, Life of Thucydides 46
  33. ^ Thucydides 3.82–83
  34. ^ Thucydides 1.1.1
  35. ^ Thucydides 1.1
  36. ^ Zagorin, Perez. Thucydides. (Princeton University Press, 2015), p. 9
  37. ^ Thucydides 1.22.4
  38. ^ Thucydides. "Book 11#1:13" . History of the Peloponnesian War – via Wikisource.
  39. ^ Mynott, Jeremy, The War of the Peloponnesians and Athenians. Cambridge, Cambridge University Press (2013). p. 11
  40. ^ Grant, Michael (1995). Greek and Roman Historians: Information and Misinformation. London: Routledge. pp. 55–56. ISBN 0-415-11770-4.
  41. ^ Hornblower, Simon, Spawforth, Antony, Eidinow, Esther, The Oxford Classical Dictionary. New York, Oxford University Press (2012). pp. 692–693
  42. ^ Dillery, John, Xenophon and the History of His Times. London, Routledge (2002).
  43. ^ "Pericles' Funeral Oration". the-athenaeum.org. Retrieved 1 January 2015.
  44. ^ Zagorin, Perez. Thucydides. (Princeton University Press, 2015), p. 144.
    Endnote cites: Paul Shorey, “On the Implicit Ethics and Psychology of Thucydides”
  45. ^ Zagorin, Perez. Thucydides. (Princeton University Press, 2015), p. 144.
  46. ^ Benjamin Earley, The Thucydidean Turn: (Re)Interpreting Thucydides’ Political Thought Before, During and After the Great War, Bloomsbury Publishing, 2020 ISBN 978-1-350-12372-4 pp. 40–43 [41], citing F. M. Cornford Cornford, Thucidides Mythistoricus, (1907) Routledge 2014 ISBN 978-1-317-68751-1 pp. 69–70.
  47. ^ Zagorin, Perez. Thucydides. (Princeton University Press, 2015), p. 22
    The page itself refers to an endnote detailing that this conclusion is inspired by multiple works, including but not limited to: Athens as A Cultural Center by Martin Ostwald; Thucydides by John H. Finley; Intellectual Experiments of Greek Enlightenment by Friedrich Solmsen
  48. ^ Zagorin, Perez. Thucydides. (Princeton University Press, 2015), p. 152.
  49. ^ Zagorin, Perez. Thucydides. (Princeton University Press, 2015), p. 147.
  50. ^ Zagorin, Perez. Thucydides. (Princeton University Press, 2015), p. 156.
  51. ^ Zagorin, Perez. Thucydides. (Princeton University Press, 2015), p. 157.
  52. ^ Zagorin, Perez. Thucydides. (Princeton University Press, 2015), p. 160.
  53. ^ Russett, p. 45.
  54. ^ Clifford Orwin, The Humanity of Thucydides, Princeton, 1994.
  55. ^ Richard Ned Lebow, The Tragic vision of Politics (Cambridge University Press, 2003), p. 20.
  56. ^ See also Walter Robert Connor, Thucydides (Princeton University Press, 1987).
  57. ^ Bury, J. B. (1958). The Ancient Greek Historians. New York: Dover Publications. p. 147.
  58. ^ Bowker, Stan (1966). "Kitto At BC". The Heights. XLVI (16).
  59. ^ Popper, Karl Raimund (2013). The Open Society and Its Enemies. Princeton University Press. p. 169. ISBN 978-0-691-15813-6.
  60. ^ Lucian, How to write history, p. 42
  61. ^ Thucydides 1.22
  62. ^ Momigliano, pp. 39, 40.
  63. ^ Lucian: Herodotus, pp. 1–2.
  64. ^ Ryszard Kapuscinski: Travels with Herodotus, p. 78.
  65. ^ Thucydides 1.23
  66. ^ Lucian, pp. 25, 41.
  67. ^ Momigliano, Ch. 2, IV.
  68. ^ Cicero, Laws 1.5.
  69. ^ Plutarch, On the Malignity of Herodotus, Moralia XI (Loeb Classical Library 426).
  70. ^ Momigliano Chapter 2, V.
  71. ^ J. B. Bury, The Ancient Greek Historians (London, MacMillan, 1909), pp. 140–143.
  72. ^ Johannes von Müller, The History of the World (Boston: Thomas H. Webb and Co., 1842), Vol. 1, p. 61.
  73. ^ See Anthony Grafton, The Footnote, a Curious History (Cambridge, Mass: Harvard University Press, 1999)
  74. ^ Momigliano, p. 50.
  75. ^ For his part, Peter Green notes of these historians, the fact "That [Thucydides] was exiled for military incompetence, did a hatchet job on the man responsible and praised as virtually unbeatable the Spartan general to whom he had lost the key city of Amphipolis bothered them not at all." Peter Green (2008) cit.
  76. ^ (Green 2008, op. cit.)
  77. ^ Momigliano, p. 52.
  78. ^ Stuart Clark (ed.): The Annales school: critical assessments, Vol. II, 1999.
  79. ^ See essay on Thucydides in The Rebirth of Classical Political Rationalism: An Introduction to the Thought of Leo Strauss – Essays and Lectures by Leo Strauss, edited by Thomas L. Pangle (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1989).
  80. ^ See, for example, E. H. Carr's The Twenty Years' Crisis.
  81. ^ "The Neoconservative Persuasion". weeklystandard.com.
  82. ^ "Arms and the Man: What was Herodotus trying to tell us?" (The New Yorker, April 28, 2008)
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References and further reading

Primary sources

  • Herodot iz Halikarnasa. Zgodbe. Ljubljana: Slovenska Matica v Ljubljani (2003).
  • Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War. London, J. M. Dent; New York, E. P. Dutton (1910). . The classic translation by Richard Crawley. Reissued by the Echo Library in 2006. ISBN 1-4068-0984-5 OCLC 173484508
  • Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War. Indianapolis, Hackett (1998); translation by Steven Lattimore. ISBN 978-0-87220-394-5.
  • Herodotus, Histories, A. D. Godley (translator), Cambridge: Harvard University Press (1920). ISBN 0-674-99133-8   perseus.tufts.edu.
  • Pausanias, Description of Greece, Books I-II, (Loeb Classical Library) translated by W. H. S. Jones; Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. (1918). ISBN 0-674-99104-4.  perseus.tufts.edu.
  • Plutarch, Lives, Bernadotte Perrin (translator), Cambridge, MA. Harvard University Press. London. William Heinemann Ltd. (1914). ISBN 0-674-99053-6   perseus.tufts.edu.
  • The Landmark Thucydides, Edited by Robert B. Strassler, Richard Crawley translation, Annotated, Indexed and Illustrated, A Touchstone Book, New York, 1996 ISBN 0-684-82815-4

Secondary sources

  • Cornelius Castoriadis, "The Greek Polis and the Creation of Democracy" in The Castoriadis Reader. Translated and edited by David Ames Curtis, Blackwell Publishers Ltd 1997, pp. 267–289 [Cornelius Castoriadis, "La polis grecque et la création de la démocratie" in Domaines de l’homme. Les Carrefours du labyrinthe II. Paris: Éditions du Seuil, 1986, pp. 261–306].
  • Cornelius Castoriadis, Thucydide, la force et le droit. Ce qui fait la Grèce. Tome 3, Paris: Éditions du Seuil, 2011.
  • Connor, W. Robert, Thucydides. Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1984. ISBN 0-691-03569-5.
  • Dewald, Carolyn, Thucydides' War Narrative: A Structural Study. Berkeley, CA: University of California Press, 2006 (hardcover, ISBN 0-520-24127-4).
  • Finley, John Huston, Jr., Thucydides. Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press, 1947.
  • Forde, Steven, The ambition to rule: Alcibiades and the politics of imperialism in Thucydides. Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 1989. ISBN 0-8014-2138-1.
  • Hanson, Victor Davis, A War Like No Other: How the Athenians and Spartans Fought the Peloponnesian War. New York: Random House, 2005. ISBN 1-4000-6095-8.
  • Hornblower, Simon, A Commentary on Thucydides. 2 vols. Oxford: Clarendon, 1991–1996. ISBN 0-19-815099-7 (vol. 1), ISBN 0-19-927625-0 (vol. 2).
  • Hornblower, Simon, Thucydides. London: Duckworth, 1987. ISBN 0-7156-2156-4.
  • Kagan, Donald, The Archidamian War. Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 1974. ISBN 0-8014-0889-X OCLC 1129967.
  • Kagan, Donald, The Peloponnesian War. New York: Viking Press, 2003. ISBN 0-670-03211-5.
  • Kelly, Paul, "Thucydides: The naturalness of war" in Conflict, War and Revolution: The problem of politics in international political thought. London: LSE Press, 2022. ISBN 978-1-909890-73-2
  • Luce, T.J., The Greek Historians. London: Routledge, 1997. ISBN 0-415-10593-5.
  • Luginbill, R.D., Thucydides on War and National Character. Boulder: Westview, 1999. ISBN 0-8133-3644-9.
  • Momigliano, Arnaldo, The Classical Foundations of Modern Historiography (= Sather Classical Lectures 54). Berkeley: University of California Press, 1990.
  • Novo, Andrew and Jay Parker, Restoring Thucydides. New York: Cambria Press, 2020. ISBN 978-1621964742.
  • Orwin, Clifford, The Humanity of Thucydides. Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1994. ISBN 0-691-03449-4.
  • Podoksik, Efraim, "Justice, Power, and Athenian Imperialism: An Ideological Moment in Thucydides’ History" in History of Political Thought 26(1): 21–42, 2005.
  • Romilly, Jacqueline de, Thucydides and Athenian Imperialism. Oxford: Basil Blackwell, 1963. ISBN 0-88143-072-2.
  • Rood, Tim, Thucydides: Narrative and Explanation. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1998. ISBN 0-19-927585-8.
  • Russett, Bruce (1993). Grasping the Democratic Peace. Princeton University Press. ISBN 0-691-03346-3.
  • de Sainte Croix, The origins of the Peloponnesian War. London: Duckworth, 1972. pp. xii, 444.
  • Strassler, Robert B, ed, The Landmark Thucydides: A Comprehensive Guide to the Peloponnesian War. New York: Free Press, 1996. ISBN 0-684-82815-4.
  • Strauss, Leo, The City and Man Chicago: Rand McNally, 1964.
  • Zagorin, Perez, Thucydides: an Introduction for the Common Reader. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 2005. ISBN 0-691-13880-X OCLC 57010364.

External links

  • Works by Thucydides at Perseus Digital Library
  • Works by Thucydides at Project Gutenberg
  • Works by or about Thucydides at Internet Archive
  • Works by Thucydides at LibriVox (public domain audiobooks)  
  • Jebb, Richard Claverhouse; Mitchell, John Malcolm (1911). "Thucydides" . Encyclopædia Britannica. Vol. 26 (11th ed.). pp. 893–896.
  • Lowell Edmunds, Rutgers University
  • Perseus Project: Thucydides, Table of Contents
  • Anthony Grafton, "Did Thucydides Really Tell The Truth?" in Slate, October 2009.
  • Bibliography at GreatThinkers.org
  • Works by Thucydides at Somni:
    • Thucididis Historiarum liber a Laurentio Vallensi traductus. Italy, 1450–1499.
    • De bello Peloponnesiaco. Naples, 1475.

thucydides, other, uses, disambiguation, ancient, greek, Θουκυδίδης, romanized, thoukudídēs, athenian, historian, general, history, peloponnesian, recounts, fifth, century, between, sparta, athens, until, year, been, dubbed, father, scientific, history, those,. For other uses see Thucydides disambiguation Thucydides 8 j uː ˈ s ɪ d ɪ ˌ d iː z Ancient Greek 8oykydidhs romanized Thoukudides c 460 c 400 BC was an Athenian historian and general His History of the Peloponnesian War recounts the fifth century BC war between Sparta and Athens until the year 411 BC Thucydides has been dubbed the father of scientific history by those who accept his claims to have applied strict standards of impartiality and evidence gathering and analysis of cause and effect without reference to intervention by the gods as outlined in his introduction to his work 3 4 5 Thucydides8oykydidhsPlaster cast bust of Thucydides in the Pushkin Museum from a Roman copy located at Holkham Hall of an early fourth century BC Greek originalBornc 460 BC 1 2 Halimous Athens modern Alimos Diedc 400 BC place of death unknownOccupation s Historian generalNotable workHistory of the Peloponnesian WarRelativesOloros father He also has been called the father of the school of political realism which views the political behavior of individuals and the subsequent outcomes of relations between states as ultimately mediated by and constructed upon fear and self interest 6 His text is still studied at universities and military colleges worldwide 7 The Melian dialogue is regarded as a seminal work of international relations theory while his version of Pericles Funeral Oration is widely studied by political theorists historians and students of the classics More generally Thucydides developed an understanding of human nature to explain behavior in such crises as plagues massacres and civil war Contents 1 Life 1 1 Evidence from the classical period 1 2 Later sources 2 The History of the Peloponnesian War 3 Philosophical outlook and influences 4 Critical interpretation 5 Comparison with Herodotus 6 See also 7 Notes 8 References and further reading 8 1 Primary sources 8 2 Secondary sources 9 External linksLife EditIn spite of his stature as a historian modern historians know relatively little about Thucydides s life The most reliable information comes from his own History of the Peloponnesian War in which he mentions his nationality paternity and birthplace Thucydides says that he fought in the war contracted the plague and was exiled by the democracy He may have also been involved in quelling the Samian Revolt 8 Evidence from the classical period Edit Thucydides identifies himself as an Athenian telling us that his father s name was Olorus and that he was from the Athenian deme of Halimous 9 A somewhat doubtful anecdote of his early life still exists While still a youth of 10 12 years he and his father were supposed to have gone to the agora of Athens where the young Thucydides heard a lecture by the historian Herodotus According to some accounts the young Thucydides wept with joy after hearing the lecture deciding that writing history would be his life s calling The same account also claims that after the lecture Herodotus spoke with the youth and his father stating Oloros your son yearns for knowledge In all essence the episode is most likely from a later Greek or Roman account of his life 10 He survived the Plague of Athens 11 which killed Pericles and many other Athenians There is a first observation of acquired immunity 12 He also records that he owned gold mines at Scapte Hyle literally Dug Woodland a coastal area in Thrace opposite the island of Thasos 13 The ruins of Amphipolis as envisaged by E Cousinery in 1831 the bridge over the Strymon the city fortifications and the acropolis Because of his influence in the Thracian region Thucydides wrote he was sent as a strategos general to Thasos in 424 BC During the winter of 424 423 BC the Spartan general Brasidas attacked Amphipolis a half day s sail west from Thasos on the Thracian coast sparking the Battle of Amphipolis Eucles the Athenian commander at Amphipolis sent to Thucydides for help 14 Brasidas aware of the presence of Thucydides on Thasos and his influence with the people of Amphipolis and afraid of help arriving by sea acted quickly to offer moderate terms to the Amphipolitans for their surrender which they accepted Thus when Thucydides arrived Amphipolis was already under Spartan control 15 Amphipolis was of considerable strategic importance and news of its fall caused great consternation in Athens 16 It was blamed on Thucydides although he claimed that it was not his fault and that he had simply been unable to reach it in time Because of his failure to save Amphipolis he was exiled 17 I lived through the whole of it being of an age to comprehend events and giving my attention to them in order to know the exact truth about them It was also my fate to be an exile from my country for twenty years after my command at Amphipolis and being present with both parties and more especially with the Peloponnesians by reason of my exile I had leisure to observe affairs somewhat particularly Using his status as an exile from Athens to travel freely among the Peloponnesian allies he was able to view the war from the perspective of both sides Thucydides claimed that he began writing his history as soon as the war broke out because he thought it would be one of the greatest wars waged among the Greeks in terms of scale Thucydides an Athenian wrote the history of the war between the Peloponnesians and the Athenians beginning at the moment that it broke out and believing that it would be a great war and more worthy of relation than any that had preceded it 18 This is all that Thucydides wrote about his own life but a few other facts are available from reliable contemporary sources Herodotus wrote that the name Olorus Thucydides s father s name was connected with Thrace and Thracian royalty 19 Thucydides was probably connected through family to the Athenian statesman and general Miltiades and his son Cimon leaders of the old aristocracy supplanted by the Radical Democrats Cimon s maternal grandfather s name also was Olorus making the connection quite likely Another Thucydides lived before the historian and was also linked with Thrace making a family connection between them very likely as well Thucydides Mosaic from Jerash Jordan Roman 3rd century AD at the Pergamon Museum in Berlin Combining all the fragmentary evidence available it seems that his family had owned a large estate in Thrace one that even contained gold mines and which allowed the family considerable and lasting affluence The security and continued prosperity of the wealthy estate must have necessitated formal ties with local kings or chieftains which explains the adoption of the distinctly Thracian royal name oloros into the family Once exiled Thucydides took permanent residence in the estate and given his ample income from the gold mines he was able to dedicate himself to full time history writing and research including many fact finding trips In essence he was a well connected gentleman of considerable resources who after involuntarily retiring from the political and military spheres decided to fund his own historical investigations Later sources Edit The remaining evidence for Thucydides life comes from later and rather less reliable ancient sources Marcellinus wrote Thucydides biography about a thousand years after his death According to Pausanias someone named Oenobius had a law passed allowing Thucydides to return to Athens presumably shortly after the city s surrender and the end of the war in 404 BC Pausanias goes on to say that Thucydides was murdered on his way back to Athens placing his tomb near the Melite gate 20 Many doubt this account seeing evidence to suggest he lived as late as 397 BC or perhaps slightly later Plutarch preserves a tradition that he was murdered in Skapte Hule and that his remains were returned to Athens where a monument to him was erected in Cimon s family plot 21 There are problems with this since this was outside Thucydides deme and the tradition goes back to Polemon who asserted he had discovered just such a memorial 22 Didymus mentions another tomb in Thrace 23 Thucydides narrative breaks off in the middle of the year 411 BC and this abrupt end has traditionally been explained as due to his death while writing the book although other explanations have been put forward Bust of Pericles Inferences about Thucydides character can be drawn with due caution only from his book His sardonic sense of humor is evident throughout as when during his description of the Athenian plague he remarks that old Athenians seemed to remember a rhyme which said that with the Dorian War would come a great death Some claimed that the rhyme originally mentioned a death by famine or starvation limos limos 24 and was remembered only later as death by pestilence loimos loimos 25 due to the current plague Thucydides then remarks that should another Dorian War come this time attended with a great famine limos the rhyme will be remembered as famine and any mention of plague loimos forgotten 26 27 Thucydides admired Pericles approving of his power over the people and showing a marked distaste for the demagogues who followed him He did not approve of the democratic commoners nor of the radical democracy that Pericles ushered in but considered democracy acceptable when guided by a good leader 28 Thucydides presentation of events is generally even handed for example he does not minimize the negative effect of his own failure at Amphipolis Occasionally however strong passions break through as in his scathing appraisals of the democratic leaders Cleon 29 30 and Hyperbolus 31 Sometimes Cleon has been connected with Thucydides exile 32 It has been argued that Thucydides was moved by the suffering inherent in war and concerned about the excesses to which human nature is prone in such circumstances as in his analysis of the atrocities committed during the civil conflict on Corcyra 33 which includes the phrase war is a violent teacher polemos biaios didaskalos The History of the Peloponnesian War EditMain article History of the Peloponnesian War 10th century minuscule manuscript of Thucydides s History of the Peloponnesian War Thucydides believed that the Peloponnesian War represented an event of unmatched importance 34 As such he began to write the History at the onset of the war in 431 BC 35 36 He declared his intention was to write an account which would serve as a possession for all time 37 The History breaks off near the end of the twenty first year of the war 411 BC in the wake of the Athenian defeat at Syracuse and so does not elaborate on the final seven years of the conflict The History of the Peloponnesian War continued to be modified well beyond the end of the war in 404 BC as exemplified by a reference at Book I 1 13 38 to the conclusion of the war 39 After his death Thucydides s History was subdivided into eight books its modern title is the History of the Peloponnesian War This subdivision was most likely made by librarians and archivists themselves being historians and scholars most likely working in the Library of Alexandria citation needed Thucydides is generally regarded as one of the first true historians Like his predecessor Herodotus known as the father of history Thucydides places a high value on eyewitness testimony and writes about events in which he probably took part He also assiduously consulted written documents and interviewed participants about the events that he recorded Unlike Herodotus whose stories often teach that a hubris invites the wrath of the deities Thucydides does not acknowledge divine intervention in human affairs 40 Thucydides exerted wide historiographical influence on subsequent Hellenistic and Roman historians although the exact description of his style in relation to many successive historians remains unclear 41 Readers in antiquity often placed the continuation of the stylistic legacy of the History in the writings of Thucydides putative intellectual successor Xenophon Such readings often described Xenophon s treatises as attempts to finish Thucydides s History Many of these interpretations however have garnered significant scepticism among modern scholars such as Dillery who spurn the view of interpreting Xenophon qua Thucydides arguing that the latter s modern history defined as constructed based on literary and historical themes is antithetical to the former s account in the Hellenica which diverges from the Hellenic historiographical tradition in its absence of a preface or introduction to the text and the associated lack of an overarching concept unifying the history 42 Pericles s Funeral Oration Perikles halt die Leichenrede by Philipp Foltz 1852 43 A noteworthy difference between Thucydides s method of writing history and that of modern historians is Thucydides s inclusion of lengthy formal speeches that as he states were literary reconstructions rather than quotations of what was said or perhaps what he believed ought to have been said Arguably had he not done this the gist of what was said would not otherwise be known at all whereas today there is a plethora of documentation written records archives and recording technology for historians to consult Therefore Thucydides s method served to rescue his mostly oral sources from oblivion We do not know how these historical figures spoke Thucydides s recreation uses a heroic stylistic register A celebrated example is Pericles funeral oration which heaps honour on the dead and includes a defence of democracy The whole earth is the sepulchre of famous men they are honoured not only by columns and inscriptions in their own land but in foreign nations on memorials graven not on stone but in the hearts and minds of men 2 43 Stylistically the placement of this passage also serves to heighten the contrast with the description of the plague in Athens immediately following it which graphically emphasizes the horror of human mortality thereby conveying a powerful sense of verisimilitude Though many lay unburied birds and beasts would not touch them or died after tasting them The bodies of dying men lay one upon another and half dead creatures reeled about the streets and gathered round all the fountains in their longing for water The sacred places also in which they had quartered themselves were full of corpses of persons who had died there just as they were for as the disaster passed all bounds men not knowing what was to become of them became equally contemptuous of the property of and the dues to the deities All the burial rites before in use were entirely upset and they buried the bodies as best they could Many from want of the proper appliances through so many of their friends having died already had recourse to the most shameless sepultures sometimes getting the start of those who had raised a pile they threw their own dead body upon the stranger s pyre and ignited it sometimes they tossed the corpse which they were carrying on the top of another that was burning and so went off 2 52 Thucydides omits discussion of the arts literature or the social milieu in which the events in his book take place and in which he grew up He saw himself as recording an event not a period and went to considerable lengths to exclude what he deemed frivolous or extraneous Philosophical outlook and influences EditPaul Shorey calls Thucydides a cynic devoid of moral sensibility 44 In addition he notes that Thucydides conceived of human nature as strictly determined by one s physical and social environments alongside basic desires 45 Francis Cornford was more nuanced Thucydides political vision was informed by a tragic ethical vision in which Man isolated from and opposed to Nature moves along a narrow path unrelated to what lies beyond and lighted only by a few dim rays of human foresight gnwmh gnome or by the false wandering fires of Hope He bears within him self contained his destiny in his own character and this with the purposes which arise out of it shapes his course That is all in Thucydides view that we can say except that now and again out of the surrounding darkness comes the blinding strokes of Fortune unaccountable and unforeseen 46 Thucydides work indicates an influence from the teachings of the Sophists that contributes substantially to the thinking and character of his History 47 Possible evidence includes his skeptical ideas concerning justice and morality 48 There are also elements within the History such as his views on nature revolving around the factual empirical and the non anthropomorphic which suggest that he was at least aware of the views of philosophers such as Anaxagoras and Democritus There is also evidence of his knowledge concerning some of the corpus of Hippocratic medical writings 49 Thucydides was especially interested in the relationship between human intelligence and judgment 50 Fortune and Necessity 51 and the idea that history is too irrational and incalculable to predict 52 Critical interpretation Edit Bust of Thucydides residing in the Royal Ontario Museum Toronto Scholars traditionally viewed Thucydides as recognizing and teaching the lesson that democracies need leadership but that leadership can be dangerous to democracy Leo Strauss in The City and Man locates the problem in the nature of Athenian democracy about which he argued Thucydides was ambivalent Thucydides s wisdom was made possible by the Periclean democracy which had the effect of liberating individual daring enterprise and questioning spirit this liberation by permitting the growth of limitless political ambition led to imperialism and eventually to civic strife 53 For Canadian historian Charles Norris Cochrane 1889 1945 Thucydides s fastidious devotion to observable phenomena focus on cause and effect and strict exclusion of other factors anticipates twentieth century scientific positivism Cochrane the son of a physician speculated that Thucydides generally and especially in describing the plague in Athens was influenced by the methods and thinking of early medical writers such as Hippocrates of Kos 3 After World War II classical scholar Jacqueline de Romilly pointed out that the problem of Athenian imperialism was one of Thucydides s preoccupations and situated his history in the context of Greek thinking about international politics Since the appearance of her study other scholars further examined Thucydides s treatment of realpolitik citation needed Other scholars have brought to the fore the literary qualities of the History which they see in the narrative tradition of Homer and Hesiod and as concerned with the concepts of justice and suffering found in Plato and Aristotle and questioned in Aeschylus and Sophocles 54 Richard Ned Lebow terms Thucydides the last of the tragedians stating that Thucydides drew heavily on epic poetry and tragedy to construct his history which not surprisingly is also constructed as a narrative 55 In this view the blind and immoderate behaviour of the Athenians and indeed of all the other actors although perhaps intrinsic to human nature leads to their downfall Thus his History could serve as a warning to leaders to be more prudent by putting them on notice that someone would be scrutinizing their actions with a historian s objectivity rather than a chronicler s flattery 56 The historian J B Bury writes that the work of Thucydides marks the longest and most decisive step that has ever been taken by a single man towards making history what it is today 57 Historian H D Kitto feels that Thucydides wrote about the Peloponnesian War not because it was the most significant war in antiquity but because it caused the most suffering Several passages of Thucydides s book are written with an intensity of feeling hardly exceeded by Sappho herself 58 In his book The Open Society and Its Enemies Karl Popper writes that Thucydides was the greatest historian perhaps who ever lived Thucydides s work Popper goes on to say represents an interpretation a point of view and in this we need not agree with him In the war between Athenian democracy and the arrested oligarchic tribalism of Sparta we must never forget Thucydides s involuntary bias and that his heart was not with Athens his native city Although he apparently did not belong to the extreme wing of the Athenian oligarchic clubs who conspired throughout the war with the enemy he was certainly a member of the oligarchic party and a friend neither of the Athenian people the demos who had exiled him nor of its imperialist policy 59 Comparison with Herodotus Edit Double herm showing Herodotus and Thucydides Farnese Collection NaplesThucydides and his immediate predecessor Herodotus both exerted a significant influence on Western historiography Thucydides does not mention his counterpart by name but his famous introductory statement is thought to refer to him 60 61 To hear this history rehearsed for that there be inserted in it no fables shall be perhaps not delightful But he that desires to look into the truth of things done and which according to the condition of humanity may be done again or at least their like shall find enough herein to make him think it profitable And it is compiled rather for an everlasting possession than to be rehearsed for a prize 1 22 Herodotus records in his Histories not only the events of the Persian Wars but also geographical and ethnographical information as well as the fables related to him during his extensive travels Typically he passes no definitive judgment on what he has heard In the case of conflicting or unlikely accounts he presents both sides says what he believes and then invites readers to decide for themselves 62 Of course modern historians would generally leave out their personal beliefs which is a form of passing judgment upon the events and people about which the historian is reporting The work of Herodotus is reported to have been recited at festivals where prizes were awarded as for example during the games at Olympia 63 Herodotus views history as a source of moral lessons with conflicts and wars as misfortunes flowing from initial acts of injustice perpetuated through cycles of revenge 64 In contrast Thucydides claims to confine himself to factual reports of contemporary political and military events based on unambiguous first hand eye witness accounts 65 although unlike Herodotus he does not reveal his sources Thucydides views life exclusively as political life and history in terms of political history Conventional moral considerations play no role in his analysis of political events while geographic and ethnographic aspects are omitted or at best of secondary importance Subsequent Greek historians such as Ctesias Diodorus Strabo Polybius and Plutarch held up Thucydides s writings as a model of truthful history Lucian 66 refers to Thucydides as having given Greek historians their law requiring them to say what had been done ὡs ἐprax8h Greek historians of the fourth century BC accepted that history was political and that contemporary history was the proper domain of a historian 67 Cicero calls Herodotus the father of history 68 yet the Greek writer Plutarch in his Moralia Ethics denigrated Herodotus notably calling him a philobarbaros a barbarian lover to the detriment of the Greeks 69 Unlike Thucydides however these authors all continued to view history as a source of moral lessons thereby infusing their works with personal biases generally missing from Thucydides clear eyed non judgmental writings focused on reporting events in a non biased manner Due to the loss of the ability to read Greek Thucydides and Herodotus were largely forgotten during the Middle Ages in Western Europe although their influence continued in the Byzantine world In Europe Herodotus become known and highly respected only in the late sixteenth and early seventeenth century as an ethnographer in part due to the discovery of America where customs and animals were encountered that were even more surprising than what he had related During the Reformation moreover information about Middle Eastern countries in the Histories provided a basis for establishing Biblical chronology as advocated by Isaac Newton The first European translation of Thucydides into Latin was made by the humanist Lorenzo Valla between 1448 and 1452 and the first Greek edition was published by Aldo Manuzio in 1502 During the Renaissance however Thucydides attracted less interest among Western European historians as a political philosopher than his successor Polybius 70 although Poggio Bracciolini claimed to have been influenced by him There is not much evidence of Thucydides s influence in Niccolo Machiavelli s The Prince 1513 which held that the chief aim of a new prince must be to maintain his state i e his power and that in so doing he is often compelled to act against faith humanity and religion Later historians such as J B Bury however have noted parallels between them If instead of a history Thucydides had written an analytical treatise on politics with particular reference to the Athenian empire it is probable that he could have forestalled Machiavelli since the whole innuendo of the Thucydidean treatment of history agrees with the fundamental postulate of Machiavelli the supremacy of reason of state To maintain a state said the Florentine thinker a statesman is often compelled to act against faith humanity and religion But the true Machiavelli not the Machiavelli of fable entertained an ideal Italy for the Italians Italy freed from the stranger and in the service of this ideal he desired to see his speculative science of politics applied Thucydides has no political aim in view he was purely a historian But it was part of the method of both alike to eliminate conventional sentiment and morality 71 Thomas Hobbes translated Thucydides directly from Greek into English In the seventeenth century the English political philosopher Thomas Hobbes whose Leviathan advocated absolute monarchy admired Thucydides and in 1628 was the first to translate his writings into English directly from Greek Thucydides Hobbes and Machiavelli are together considered the founding fathers of western political realism according to which state policy must primarily or solely focus on the need to maintain military and economic power rather than on ideals or ethics Nineteenth century positivist historians stressed what they saw as Thucydides s seriousness his scientific objectivity and his advanced handling of evidence A virtual cult following developed among such German philosophers as Friedrich Schelling Friedrich Schlegel and Friedrich Nietzsche who claimed that in Thucydides the portrayer of Man that culture of the most impartial knowledge of the world finds its last glorious flower The late eighteenth century Swiss historian Johannes von Muller described Thucydides as the favourite author of the greatest and noblest men and one of the best teachers of the wisdom of human life 72 For Eduard Meyer Thomas Babington Macaulay and Leopold von Ranke who initiated modern source based history writing 73 Thucydides was again the model historian 74 75 Generals and statesmen loved him the world he drew was theirs an exclusive power brokers club It is no accident that even today Thucydides turns up as a guiding spirit in military academies neocon think tanks and the writings of men like Henry Kissinger whereas Herodotus has been the choice of imaginative novelists Michael Ondaatje s novel The English Patient and the film based on it boosted the sale of the Histories to a wholly unforeseen degree and as food for a starved soul of an equally imaginative foreign correspondent from Iron Curtain Poland Ryszard Kapuscinski 76 These historians also admired Herodotus however as social and ethnographic history increasingly came to be recognized as complementary to political history 77 In the twentieth century this trend gave rise to the works of Johan Huizinga Marc Bloch and Fernand Braudel who pioneered the study of long term cultural and economic developments and the patterns of everyday life The Annales School which exemplifies this direction has been viewed as extending the tradition of Herodotus 78 At the same time Thucydides s influence was increasingly important in the area of international relations during the Cold War through the work of Hans Morgenthau Leo Strauss 79 and Edward Carr 80 The tension between the Thucydidean and Herodotean traditions extends beyond historical research According to Irving Kristol self described founder of American neoconservatism Thucydides wrote the favorite neoconservative text on foreign affairs 81 and Thucydides is a required text at the Naval War College an American institution located in Rhode Island On the other hand Daniel Mendelsohn in a review of a recent edition of Herodotus suggests that at least in his graduate school days during the Cold War professing admiration of Thucydides served as a form of self presentation To be an admirer of Thucydides History with its deep cynicism about political rhetorical and ideological hypocrisy with its all too recognizable protagonists a liberal yet imperialistic democracy and an authoritarian oligarchy engaged in a war of attrition fought by proxy at the remote fringes of empire was to advertise yourself as a hardheaded connoisseur of global Realpolitik 82 Another contemporary historian believes that 83 while it is true that critical history began with Thucydides one may also argue that Herodotus looking at the past as a reason why the present is the way it is and to search for causality for events beyond the realms of Tyche and the Gods was a much larger step citation needed See also EditSpeech of Hermocrates at Gela Thucydides TrapNotes Edit Virginia J Hunter Past and Process in Herodotus and Thucydides Princeton University Press 2017 4 Luciano Canfora Biographical Obscurities and Problems of Composition in Antonis Tsakmakis Antonios Rengakos eds Brill s Companion to Thucydides Brill 2006 ISBN 978 9 047 40484 2 pp 3 31 a b Cochrane Charles Norris 1929 Thucydides and the Science of History Oxford University Press p 179 Meyer p 67 de Sainte Croix Korab Karpowicz W Julian 26 July 2010 Political Realism in International Relations In Edward N Zalta ed The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy Summer 2013 ed Retrieved 2016 03 23 Strauss p 139 Harloe Katherine Morley Neville eds Thucydides and the Modern World Reception Reinterpretation and Influence from the Renaissance to the Present Cambridge Cambridge University Press 2012 p 12 Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War 1 117 Thucydides 4 104 Herodot iz Halikarnasa Zgodbe Ljubljana Slovenska Matica v Ljubljani 2003 p 22 The original quote in Slovene Oloros tvoj sin koprni po izobrazbi Thucydides 2 48 1 3 Thucydides 2 51 6 Thucydides 4 105 1 Thucydides 4 104 1 Thucydides 4 105 106 3 Thucydides 4 108 1 7 Thucydides 5 26 5 Thucydides The Peloponnesian War book 1 chapter 1 section 1 data perseus org Retrieved 2018 03 07 6 39 1 Pausanias Description of Greece 1 23 9 Plutarch Cimon 4 1 2 Luciano Canfora 2006 Biographical Obscurities and Problems of Composition Antonis Tsakmakis Antonios Rengakos eds Brill s Companion to Thucydides Brill ISBN 978 90 474 0484 2 pp 6 7 63 33 Canfora 2006 p 8 Metafrash Google Retrieved 2016 03 23 via google com Metafrash Google google com Retrieved 2016 03 23 1 Greek text Liddell amp Scott translations Thucydides 2 65 1 Thucydides 3 36 6 Thucydides 4 27 5 16 1 Thucydides 8 73 3 Marcellinus Life of Thucydides 46 Thucydides 3 82 83 Thucydides 1 1 1 Thucydides 1 1 Zagorin Perez Thucydides Princeton University Press 2015 p 9 Thucydides 1 22 4 Thucydides Book 11 1 13 History of the Peloponnesian War via Wikisource Mynott Jeremy The War of the Peloponnesians and Athenians Cambridge Cambridge University Press 2013 p 11 Grant Michael 1995 Greek and Roman Historians Information and Misinformation London Routledge pp 55 56 ISBN 0 415 11770 4 Hornblower Simon Spawforth Antony Eidinow Esther The Oxford Classical Dictionary New York Oxford University Press 2012 pp 692 693 Dillery John Xenophon and the History of His Times London Routledge 2002 Pericles Funeral Oration the athenaeum org Retrieved 1 January 2015 Zagorin Perez Thucydides Princeton University Press 2015 p 144 Endnote cites Paul Shorey On the Implicit Ethics and Psychology of Thucydides Zagorin Perez Thucydides Princeton University Press 2015 p 144 Benjamin Earley The Thucydidean Turn Re Interpreting Thucydides Political Thought Before During and After the Great War Bloomsbury Publishing 2020 ISBN 978 1 350 12372 4 pp 40 43 41 citing F M Cornford Cornford Thucidides Mythistoricus 1907 Routledge 2014 ISBN 978 1 317 68751 1 pp 69 70 Zagorin Perez Thucydides Princeton University Press 2015 p 22The page itself refers to an endnote detailing that this conclusion is inspired by multiple works including but not limited to Athens as A Cultural Center by Martin Ostwald Thucydides by John H Finley Intellectual Experiments of Greek Enlightenment by Friedrich Solmsen Zagorin Perez Thucydides Princeton University Press 2015 p 152 Zagorin Perez Thucydides Princeton University Press 2015 p 147 Zagorin Perez Thucydides Princeton University Press 2015 p 156 Zagorin Perez Thucydides Princeton University Press 2015 p 157 Zagorin Perez Thucydides Princeton University Press 2015 p 160 Russett p 45 Clifford Orwin The Humanity of Thucydides Princeton 1994 Richard Ned Lebow The Tragic vision of Politics Cambridge University Press 2003 p 20 See also Walter Robert Connor Thucydides Princeton University Press 1987 Bury J B 1958 The Ancient Greek Historians New York Dover Publications p 147 Bowker Stan 1966 Kitto At BC The Heights XLVI 16 Popper Karl Raimund 2013 The Open Society and Its Enemies Princeton University Press p 169 ISBN 978 0 691 15813 6 Lucian How to write history p 42 Thucydides 1 22 Momigliano pp 39 40 Lucian Herodotus pp 1 2 Ryszard Kapuscinski Travels with Herodotus p 78 Thucydides 1 23 Lucian pp 25 41 Momigliano Ch 2 IV Cicero Laws 1 5 Plutarch On the Malignity of Herodotus Moralia XI Loeb Classical Library 426 Momigliano Chapter 2 V J B Bury The Ancient Greek Historians London MacMillan 1909 pp 140 143 Johannes von Muller The History of the World Boston Thomas H Webb and Co 1842 Vol 1 p 61 See Anthony Grafton The Footnote a Curious History Cambridge Mass Harvard University Press 1999 Momigliano p 50 For his part Peter Green notes of these historians the fact That Thucydides was exiled for military incompetence did a hatchet job on the man responsible and praised as virtually unbeatable the Spartan general to whom he had lost the key city of Amphipolis bothered them not at all Peter Green 2008 cit Green 2008 op cit Momigliano p 52 Stuart Clark ed The Annales school critical assessments Vol II 1999 See essay on Thucydides in The Rebirth of Classical Political Rationalism An Introduction to the Thought of Leo Strauss Essays and Lectures by Leo Strauss edited by Thomas L Pangle Chicago University of Chicago Press 1989 See for example E H Carr s The Twenty Years Crisis The Neoconservative Persuasion weeklystandard com Arms and the Man What was Herodotus trying to tell us The New Yorker April 28 2008 Sorensen Benjamin 2013 The Legacy of J B Bury Progressive Historian of Ancient Greece Saber and Scroll 2 2 References and further reading EditPrimary sources Edit Herodot iz Halikarnasa Zgodbe Ljubljana Slovenska Matica v Ljubljani 2003 Thucydides The Peloponnesian War London J M Dent New York E P Dutton 1910 The classic translation by Richard Crawley Reissued by the Echo Library in 2006 ISBN 1 4068 0984 5 OCLC 173484508 Thucydides The Peloponnesian War Indianapolis Hackett 1998 translation by Steven Lattimore ISBN 978 0 87220 394 5 Herodotus Histories A D Godley translator Cambridge Harvard University Press 1920 ISBN 0 674 99133 8 perseus tufts edu Pausanias Description of Greece Books I II Loeb Classical Library translated by W H S Jones Cambridge Massachusetts Harvard University Press London William Heinemann Ltd 1918 ISBN 0 674 99104 4 perseus tufts edu Plutarch Lives Bernadotte Perrin translator Cambridge MA Harvard University Press London William Heinemann Ltd 1914 ISBN 0 674 99053 6 perseus tufts edu The Landmark Thucydides Edited by Robert B Strassler Richard Crawley translation Annotated Indexed and Illustrated A Touchstone Book New York 1996 ISBN 0 684 82815 4Secondary sources Edit Cornelius Castoriadis The Greek Polis and the Creation of Democracy in The Castoriadis Reader Translated and edited by David Ames Curtis Blackwell Publishers Ltd 1997 pp 267 289 Cornelius Castoriadis La polis grecque et la creation de la democratie in Domaines de l homme Les Carrefours du labyrinthe II Paris Editions du Seuil 1986 pp 261 306 Cornelius Castoriadis Thucydide la force et le droit Ce qui fait la Grece Tome 3 Paris Editions du Seuil 2011 Connor W Robert Thucydides Princeton Princeton University Press 1984 ISBN 0 691 03569 5 Dewald Carolyn Thucydides War Narrative A Structural Study Berkeley CA University of California Press 2006 hardcover ISBN 0 520 24127 4 Finley John Huston Jr Thucydides Cambridge Massachusetts Harvard University Press 1947 Forde Steven The ambition to rule Alcibiades and the politics of imperialism in Thucydides Ithaca Cornell University Press 1989 ISBN 0 8014 2138 1 Hanson Victor Davis A War Like No Other How the Athenians and Spartans Fought the Peloponnesian War New York Random House 2005 ISBN 1 4000 6095 8 Hornblower Simon A Commentary on Thucydides 2 vols Oxford Clarendon 1991 1996 ISBN 0 19 815099 7 vol 1 ISBN 0 19 927625 0 vol 2 Hornblower Simon Thucydides London Duckworth 1987 ISBN 0 7156 2156 4 Kagan Donald The Archidamian War Ithaca Cornell University Press 1974 ISBN 0 8014 0889 X OCLC 1129967 Kagan Donald The Peloponnesian War New York Viking Press 2003 ISBN 0 670 03211 5 Kelly Paul Thucydides The naturalness of war in Conflict War and Revolution The problem of politics in international political thought London LSE Press 2022 ISBN 978 1 909890 73 2 Luce T J The Greek Historians London Routledge 1997 ISBN 0 415 10593 5 Luginbill R D Thucydides on War and National Character Boulder Westview 1999 ISBN 0 8133 3644 9 Momigliano Arnaldo The Classical Foundations of Modern Historiography Sather Classical Lectures 54 Berkeley University of California Press 1990 Novo Andrew and Jay Parker Restoring Thucydides New York Cambria Press 2020 ISBN 978 1621964742 Orwin Clifford The Humanity of Thucydides Princeton Princeton University Press 1994 ISBN 0 691 03449 4 Podoksik Efraim Justice Power and Athenian Imperialism An Ideological Moment in Thucydides History in History of Political Thought 26 1 21 42 2005 Romilly Jacqueline de Thucydides and Athenian Imperialism Oxford Basil Blackwell 1963 ISBN 0 88143 072 2 Rood Tim Thucydides Narrative and Explanation Oxford Oxford University Press 1998 ISBN 0 19 927585 8 Russett Bruce 1993 Grasping the Democratic Peace Princeton University Press ISBN 0 691 03346 3 de Sainte Croix The origins of the Peloponnesian War London Duckworth 1972 pp xii 444 Strassler Robert B ed The Landmark Thucydides A Comprehensive Guide to the Peloponnesian War New York Free Press 1996 ISBN 0 684 82815 4 Strauss Leo The City and Man Chicago Rand McNally 1964 Zagorin Perez Thucydides an Introduction for the Common Reader Princeton NJ Princeton University Press 2005 ISBN 0 691 13880 X OCLC 57010364 External links EditThucydides at Wikipedia s sister projects Definitions from Wiktionary Media from Commons News from Wikinews Quotations from Wikiquote Texts from Wikisource Textbooks from Wikibooks Resources from Wikiversity Greek Wikisource has original text related to this article 8oykydidhs Works by Thucydides at Perseus Digital Library Works by Thucydides at Project Gutenberg Works by or about Thucydides at Internet Archive Works by Thucydides at LibriVox public domain audiobooks Jebb Richard Claverhouse Mitchell John Malcolm 1911 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