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Timaeus (dialogue)

Timaeus (/tˈməs/; Greek: Τίμαιος, translit. Timaios, pronounced [tǐːmai̯os]) is one of Plato's dialogues, mostly in the form of long monologues given by Critias and Timaeus, written c. 360 BC. The work puts forward reasoning on the possible nature of the physical world and human beings and is followed by the dialogue Critias.

Participants in the dialogue include Socrates, Timaeus, Hermocrates, and Critias. Some scholars believe that it is not the Critias of the Thirty Tyrants who appears in this dialogue, but his grandfather, who is also named Critias.[1][2][3] It has been suggested from some traditions (Diogenes Laertius (VIII 85) from Hermippus of Smyrna (3rd century BC) and Timon of Phlius (c. 320 – c. 235 BC) that Timaeus was influenced by a book about Pythagoras, written by Philolaus, although this assertion is generally considered false.[4]

Introduction

 
Athanasius Kircher's map of Atlantis from Mundus Subterraneus ("The Subterranean World") (1669) drawn with south at the top.

The dialogue takes place the day after Socrates described his ideal state. In Plato's works, such a discussion occurs in the Republic. Socrates feels that his description of the ideal state wasn't sufficient for the purposes of entertainment and that "I would be glad to hear some account of it engaging in transactions with other states" (19b).

Hermocrates wishes to oblige Socrates and mentions that Critias knows just the account (20b) to do so. Critias proceeds to tell the story of Solon's journey to Egypt where he hears the story of Atlantis, and how Athens used to be an ideal state that subsequently waged war against Atlantis (25a). Critias believes that he is getting ahead of himself, and mentions that Timaeus will tell part of the account from the origin of the universe to man.

Critias also cites the Egyptian priest in Sais about long-term factors on the fate of mankind:

There have been, and will be again, many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes; the greatest have been brought about by the agencies of fire and water, and other lesser ones by innumerable other causes. There is a story that even you [Greeks] have preserved, that once upon a time, Phaethon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father's chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt. Now this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving in the heavens around the earth, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth, which recurs after long intervals.[5]

The history of Atlantis is postponed to Critias. The main content of the dialogue, the exposition by Timaeus, follows.

Synopsis of Timaeus' account

 
Timaeus

Nature of the physical world

 
Plato is depicted in Raphael's The School of Athens anachronistically carrying a bound copy of Timaeus.

Timaeus begins with a distinction between the physical world, and the eternal world. The physical one is the world which changes and perishes: therefore it is the object of opinion and unreasoned sensation. The eternal one never changes: therefore it is apprehended by reason (28a).

The speeches about the two worlds are conditioned by the different nature of their objects. Indeed, "a description of what is changeless, fixed and clearly intelligible will be changeless and fixed," (29b), while a description of what changes and is likely, will also change and be just likely. "As being is to becoming, so is truth to belief" (29c). Therefore, in a description of the physical world, one "should not look for anything more than a likely story" (29d).

Timaeus suggests that since nothing "becomes or changes" without cause, then the cause of the universe must be a demiurge or a god, a figure Timaeus refers to as the father and maker of the universe. And since the universe is fair, the demiurge must have looked to the eternal model to make it, and not to the perishable one (29a). Hence, using the eternal and perfect world of "forms" or ideals as a template, he set about creating our world, which formerly only existed in a state of disorder.

Purpose of the universe

Timaeus continues with an explanation of the creation of the universe, which he ascribes to the handiwork of a divine craftsman. The demiurge, being good, wanted there to be as much good as was the world. The demiurge is said to bring order out of substance by imitating an unchanging and eternal model (paradigm). The ananke, often translated as 'necessity', was the only other co-existent element or presence in Plato's cosmogony. Later Platonists clarified that the eternal model existed in the mind of the demiurge.[citation needed]

Properties of the universe

Timaeus describes the substance as a lack of homogeneity or balance, in which the four elements (earth, air, fire and water) were shapeless, mixed and in constant motion. Considering that order is favourable over disorder, the essential act of the creator was to bring order and clarity to this substance. Therefore, all the properties of the world are to be explained by the demiurge's choice of what is fair and good; or, the idea of a dichotomy between good and evil.

First of all, the world is a living creature. Since the unintelligent creatures are in their appearance less fair than intelligent creatures, and since intelligence needs to be settled in a soul, the demiurge "put intelligence in soul, and soul in body" in order to make a living and intelligent whole. "Wherefore, using the language of probability, we may say that the world became a living creature truly endowed with soul and intelligence by the providence of God" (30a-b).

Then, since the part is imperfect compared to the whole, the world had to be one and only. Therefore, the demiurge did not create several worlds, but a single unique world (31b). Additionally, because the demiurge wanted his creation to be a perfect imitation of the Eternal "One" (the source of all other emanations), there was no need to create more than one world.

The creator decided also to make the perceptible body of the universe by four elements, in order to render it proportioned. Indeed, in addition to fire and earth, which make bodies visible and solid, a third element was required as a mean: "two things cannot be rightly put together without a third; there must be some bond of union between them". Moreover, since the world is not a surface but a solid, a fourth mean was needed to reach harmony: therefore, the creator placed water and air between fire and earth. "And for these reasons, and out of such elements which are in number four, the body of the world was created, and it was harmonised by proportion" (31-33).

As for the figure, the demiurge created the world in the geometric form of a globe. Indeed, the round figure is the most perfect one, because it comprehends or averages all the other figures and it is the most omnimorphic of all figures: "he [the demiurge] considered that the like is infinitely fairer than the unlike" (33b).

The creator assigned then to the world a rotatory or circular movement, which is the "most appropriate to mind and intelligence" on account of its being the most uniform (34a).

Finally, he created the soul of the world, placed that soul in the center of the world's body and diffused it in every direction. Having thus been created as a perfect, self-sufficient and intelligent being, the world is a god (34b).

The creation of the world-soul

Timaeus then explains how the soul of the world was created (Plato's following discussion is obscure, and almost certainly intended to be read in light of the Sophist). The demiurge combined three elements: two varieties of Sameness (one indivisible and another divisible), two varieties of Difference (again, one indivisible and another divisible), and two types of Being (or Existence, once more, one indivisible and another divisible). From this emerged three compound substances, intermediate (or mixed) Being, intermediate Sameness, and intermediate Difference. From this compound one final substance resulted, the world-soul.[6] He then divided following precise mathematical proportions, cutting the compound lengthways, fixed the resulting two bands in their middle, like in the letter Χ (chi), and connected them at their ends, to have two crossing circles. The demiurge imparted on them a circular movement on their axis: the outer circle was assigned Sameness and turned horizontally to the right, while the inner circle was assigned to Difference and turned diagonally and to the left (34c-36c).

The demiurge gave the primacy to the motion of Sameness and left it undivided; but he divided the motion of Difference in six parts, to have seven unequal circles. He prescribed these circles to move in opposite directions, three of them with equal speeds, the others with unequal speeds, but always in proportion. These circles are the orbits of the heavenly bodies: the three moving at equal speeds are the Sun, Venus and Mercury, while the four moving at unequal speeds are the Moon, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn (36c-d). The complicated pattern of these movements is bound to be repeated again after a period called a 'complete' or 'perfect' year (39d).

Then, the demiurge connected the body and the soul of the universe: he diffused the soul from the center of the body to its extremities in every direction, allowing the invisible soul to envelop the visible body. The soul began to rotate and this was the beginning of its eternal and rational life (36e).

Therefore, having been composed by Sameness, Difference and Existence (their mean), and formed in right proportions, the soul declares the sameness or difference of every object it meets: when it is a sensible object, the inner circle of the Diverse transmit its movement to the soul, where opinions arise, but when it is an intellectual object, the circle of the Same turns perfectly round and true knowledge arises (37a-c).

The world as a whole, the planets, and the stars are living, visible gods (39e) that have an important role in creating human beings and regulating their moral life (41d).[7]

The elements

Timaeus claims that the minute particle of each element had a special geometric shape: tetrahedron (fire), octahedron (air), icosahedron (water), and cube (earth).

Timaeus makes conjectures on the composition of the four elements which some ancient Greeks thought constituted the physical universe: earth, water, air, and fire. Timaeus links each of these elements to a certain Platonic solid: the element of earth would be a cube, of air an octahedron, of water an icosahedron, and of fire a tetrahedron.[8] Each of these perfect polyhedra would be in turn composed of triangular faces the 30-60-90 and the 45-45-90 triangles. The faces of each element could be broken down into its component right-angled triangles, either isosceles or scalene, which could then be put together to form all of physical matter. Particular characteristics of matter, such as water's capacity to extinguish fire, was then related to shape and size of the constituent triangles. The fifth element (i.e. Platonic solid) was the dodecahedron, whose faces are not triangular, and which was taken to represent the shape of the Universe as a whole, possibly because of all the elements it most approximates a sphere, which Timaeus has already noted was the shape into which God had formed the Universe.[9]

The extensive final part of the dialogue addresses the creation of humans, including the soul, anatomy, perception, and transmigration of the soul. Plato also discusses the creation of the body, as well as the causes of bodily and psychic diseases.[10]

Later influence

 
Medieval manuscript of Calcidius' Latin Timaeus translation.

The Timaeus was translated into Latin first by Marcus Tullius Cicero around 45 BC (sections 27d–47b),[11] and later by Calcidius in the 4th century AD (up to section 53c). Cicero's fragmentary translation was highly influential in late antiquity, especially on Latin-speaking Church Fathers such as Saint Augustine who did not appear to have access to the original Greek dialogue.[12] The manuscript production and preservation of Cicero's Timaeus (among many other Latin philosophical works) is largely due to the works of monastic scholars, especially at Corbie in North-East France during the Carolingian Period.[13]

Calcidius' more extensive translation of the Timaeus had a strong influence on medieval Neoplatonic cosmology and was commented on particularly by 12th-century Christian philosophers of the Chartres School, such as Thierry of Chartres and William of Conches, who, interpreting it in the light of the Christian faith, understood the dialogue to refer to a creatio ex nihilo.[14] Calcidius himself never explicitly linked the Platonic creation myth in the Timaeus with the Old Testament creation story in Genesis in his commentary on the dialogue.[15]

The dialogue was also highly influential in Arabic-speaking regions beginning in the 10th century AD. The Catalogue (fihrist) of Ibn al-Nadīm provides some evidence for an early translation by Ibn al-Bitriq (Al-Kindī's circle). It is believed that the Syrian Nestorian Christian Hunayn ibn Ishaq (809–873 AD) corrected this translation or translated the entire work himself. However, only the circulation of many exegeses of Timaeus is confirmed.[16] There is also evidence of Galen's commentary on the dialogue being highly influential in the Arabic-speaking world, with Galen's Synopsis being preserved in a medieval Arabic translation.[17]

In his introduction to Plato's Dialogues, 19th-century translator Benjamin Jowett argues that "Of all the writings of Plato, the Timaeus is the most obscure and repulsive to the modern reader."[18]

See also

Notes

  1. ^ See Burnet, John (1913). Greek Philosophy, Part 1: Thales to Plato. London: Macmillan, p. 328
  2. ^ Taylor, AE (1928). A commentary on Plato's Timaeus. Oxford: Clarendon, p. 23.
  3. ^ Nails, Debra (2002). "Critias III," in The People of Plato. Indianapolis: Hackett, pp. 106–7.
  4. ^ "Philolaus". Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Retrieved 15 August 2019.
  5. ^ Translation by Benjamin Jowett (1817-1893) reproduced in, for example, John Michael Greer, Atlantis (Llewelyn Worldwide 2007 ISBN 978-0-73870978-9), p. 9
  6. ^ "The components from which he made the soul and the way in which he made it were as follows: In between the Being that is indivisible and always changeless, and the one that is divisible and comes to be in the corporeal realm, he mixed a third, intermediate form of being, derived from the other two. Similarly, he made a mixture of the Same, and then one of the Different, in between their indivisible and their corporeal, divisible counterparts. And he took the three mixtures and mixed them together to make a uniform mixture, forcing the Different, which was hard to mix, into conformity with the Same. Now when he had mixed these two with Being, and from the three had made a single mixture, he redivided the whole mixture into as many parts as his task required, each part remaining a mixture of the Same, the Different and Being." (35a-b), translation Donald J. Zeyl
  7. ^ For a fuller discussion, see Bartninkas, V. (2023). Traditional and Cosmic Gods in Later Plato and the Early Academy. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 44-51, 96-104.
  8. ^ Plato, Timaeus, 53c
  9. ^ Plato offers an analysis of third kind of reality, between the intelligible and the sensible, namely as Khôra (χώρα). This designates a receptacle (Timaeus 48e), a space, a material substratum, or an interval in which the "forms" were originally held; it "gives space" and has maternal overtones (a womb, matrix). For recent studies on this notion and its impact not only in history of philosophy but on phenomenology see for example: Nader El-Bizri, "‘Qui-êtes vous Khôra?’: Receiving Plato’s Timaeus," Existentia Meletai-Sophias, Vol. XI, Issue 3-4 (2001), pp. 473–490; Nader El-Bizri, "ON KAI KHORA: Situating Heidegger between the Sophist and the Timaeus," Studia Phaenomenologica, Vol. IV, Issue 1-2 (2004), pp. 73–98 [1]; Nader El-Bizri, "Ontopoiēsis and the Interpretation of Plato’s Khôra," Analecta Husserliana: The Yearbook of Phenomenological Research, Vol. LXXXIII (2004), pp. 25–45.
  10. ^ For psychic diseases, see Douglas R. Campbell, "The Soul's Tomb: Plato on the Body as the Cause of Psychic Disorders," Apeiron 55 (1): 119-139. 2022. For bodily diseases, see Harold W. Miller, "The Aetiology of Disease in Plato's Timaeus," Transactions and Proceedings of the American Philological Association 93: 175-187. 1962.
  11. ^ Cicero's version can be found at http://www.forumromanum.org/literature/cicero_timaeus.html
  12. ^ Hoenig, Christina (2018). Plato's Timaeus and the Latin Tradition. Cambridge University Press. p. 220.
  13. ^ Ganz, D. (1990). Corbie in the Carolingian Renaissance. Paris.
  14. ^ Stiefel, Tina (1985). The Intellectual Revolution in Twelfth Century Europe. New York: St. Martin's Press. ISBN 978-0-312-41892-2.
  15. ^ Magee, John (2016). On Plato's Timaeus. Calcidius. Harvard University Press. pp. viii–xi.
  16. ^ "Arabic Translations of Platonic works". Encyclopedia of Plato.
  17. ^ Das, Aileen R. (September 2013). Galen and the Arabic traditions of Plato's Timaeus (phd). University of Warwick.
  18. ^ Bauer, Susan Wise (2015). The Story of Science: From the Writings of Aristotle to the Big Bang Theory (1st ed.). New York: W. W. Norton. p. 13. ISBN 978-0-393-24326-0. OCLC 891611100.

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timaeus, dialogue, timaeus, greek, Τίμαιος, translit, timaios, pronounced, tǐːmai, plato, dialogues, mostly, form, long, monologues, given, critias, timaeus, written, work, puts, forward, reasoning, possible, nature, physical, world, human, beings, followed, d. Timaeus t aɪ ˈ m iː e s Greek Timaios translit Timaios pronounced tǐːmai os is one of Plato s dialogues mostly in the form of long monologues given by Critias and Timaeus written c 360 BC The work puts forward reasoning on the possible nature of the physical world and human beings and is followed by the dialogue Critias Participants in the dialogue include Socrates Timaeus Hermocrates and Critias Some scholars believe that it is not the Critias of the Thirty Tyrants who appears in this dialogue but his grandfather who is also named Critias 1 2 3 It has been suggested from some traditions Diogenes Laertius VIII 85 from Hermippus of Smyrna 3rd century BC and Timon of Phlius c 320 c 235 BC that Timaeus was influenced by a book about Pythagoras written by Philolaus although this assertion is generally considered false 4 Contents 1 Introduction 2 Synopsis of Timaeus account 2 1 Nature of the physical world 2 2 Purpose of the universe 2 3 Properties of the universe 2 4 The creation of the world soul 2 5 The elements 3 Later influence 4 See also 5 Notes 6 References 7 External linksIntroduction Edit Athanasius Kircher s map of Atlantis from Mundus Subterraneus The Subterranean World 1669 drawn with south at the top The dialogue takes place the day after Socrates described his ideal state In Plato s works such a discussion occurs in the Republic Socrates feels that his description of the ideal state wasn t sufficient for the purposes of entertainment and that I would be glad to hear some account of it engaging in transactions with other states 19b Hermocrates wishes to oblige Socrates and mentions that Critias knows just the account 20b to do so Critias proceeds to tell the story of Solon s journey to Egypt where he hears the story of Atlantis and how Athens used to be an ideal state that subsequently waged war against Atlantis 25a Critias believes that he is getting ahead of himself and mentions that Timaeus will tell part of the account from the origin of the universe to man Critias also cites the Egyptian priest in Sais about long term factors on the fate of mankind There have been and will be again many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes the greatest have been brought about by the agencies of fire and water and other lesser ones by innumerable other causes There is a story that even you Greeks have preserved that once upon a time Phaethon the son of Helios having yoked the steeds in his father s chariot because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father burnt up all that was upon the earth and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt Now this has the form of a myth but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving in the heavens around the earth and a great conflagration of things upon the earth which recurs after long intervals 5 The history of Atlantis is postponed to Critias The main content of the dialogue the exposition by Timaeus follows Synopsis of Timaeus account Edit Timaeus Nature of the physical world Edit Plato is depicted in Raphael s The School of Athens anachronistically carrying a bound copy of Timaeus Timaeus begins with a distinction between the physical world and the eternal world The physical one is the world which changes and perishes therefore it is the object of opinion and unreasoned sensation The eternal one never changes therefore it is apprehended by reason 28a The speeches about the two worlds are conditioned by the different nature of their objects Indeed a description of what is changeless fixed and clearly intelligible will be changeless and fixed 29b while a description of what changes and is likely will also change and be just likely As being is to becoming so is truth to belief 29c Therefore in a description of the physical world one should not look for anything more than a likely story 29d Timaeus suggests that since nothing becomes or changes without cause then the cause of the universe must be a demiurge or a god a figure Timaeus refers to as the father and maker of the universe And since the universe is fair the demiurge must have looked to the eternal model to make it and not to the perishable one 29a Hence using the eternal and perfect world of forms or ideals as a template he set about creating our world which formerly only existed in a state of disorder Purpose of the universe Edit Timaeus continues with an explanation of the creation of the universe which he ascribes to the handiwork of a divine craftsman The demiurge being good wanted there to be as much good as was the world The demiurge is said to bring order out of substance by imitating an unchanging and eternal model paradigm The ananke often translated as necessity was the only other co existent element or presence in Plato s cosmogony Later Platonists clarified that the eternal model existed in the mind of the demiurge citation needed Properties of the universe Edit Timaeus describes the substance as a lack of homogeneity or balance in which the four elements earth air fire and water were shapeless mixed and in constant motion Considering that order is favourable over disorder the essential act of the creator was to bring order and clarity to this substance Therefore all the properties of the world are to be explained by the demiurge s choice of what is fair and good or the idea of a dichotomy between good and evil First of all the world is a living creature Since the unintelligent creatures are in their appearance less fair than intelligent creatures and since intelligence needs to be settled in a soul the demiurge put intelligence in soul and soul in body in order to make a living and intelligent whole Wherefore using the language of probability we may say that the world became a living creature truly endowed with soul and intelligence by the providence of God 30a b Then since the part is imperfect compared to the whole the world had to be one and only Therefore the demiurge did not create several worlds but a single unique world 31b Additionally because the demiurge wanted his creation to be a perfect imitation of the Eternal One the source of all other emanations there was no need to create more than one world The creator decided also to make the perceptible body of the universe by four elements in order to render it proportioned Indeed in addition to fire and earth which make bodies visible and solid a third element was required as a mean two things cannot be rightly put together without a third there must be some bond of union between them Moreover since the world is not a surface but a solid a fourth mean was needed to reach harmony therefore the creator placed water and air between fire and earth And for these reasons and out of such elements which are in number four the body of the world was created and it was harmonised by proportion 31 33 As for the figure the demiurge created the world in the geometric form of a globe Indeed the round figure is the most perfect one because it comprehends or averages all the other figures and it is the most omnimorphic of all figures he the demiurge considered that the like is infinitely fairer than the unlike 33b The creator assigned then to the world a rotatory or circular movement which is the most appropriate to mind and intelligence on account of its being the most uniform 34a Finally he created the soul of the world placed that soul in the center of the world s body and diffused it in every direction Having thus been created as a perfect self sufficient and intelligent being the world is a god 34b The creation of the world soul Edit Timaeus then explains how the soul of the world was created Plato s following discussion is obscure and almost certainly intended to be read in light of the Sophist The demiurge combined three elements two varieties of Sameness one indivisible and another divisible two varieties of Difference again one indivisible and another divisible and two types of Being or Existence once more one indivisible and another divisible From this emerged three compound substances intermediate or mixed Being intermediate Sameness and intermediate Difference From this compound one final substance resulted the world soul 6 He then divided following precise mathematical proportions cutting the compound lengthways fixed the resulting two bands in their middle like in the letter X chi and connected them at their ends to have two crossing circles The demiurge imparted on them a circular movement on their axis the outer circle was assigned Sameness and turned horizontally to the right while the inner circle was assigned to Difference and turned diagonally and to the left 34c 36c The demiurge gave the primacy to the motion of Sameness and left it undivided but he divided the motion of Difference in six parts to have seven unequal circles He prescribed these circles to move in opposite directions three of them with equal speeds the others with unequal speeds but always in proportion These circles are the orbits of the heavenly bodies the three moving at equal speeds are the Sun Venus and Mercury while the four moving at unequal speeds are the Moon Mars Jupiter and Saturn 36c d The complicated pattern of these movements is bound to be repeated again after a period called a complete or perfect year 39d Then the demiurge connected the body and the soul of the universe he diffused the soul from the center of the body to its extremities in every direction allowing the invisible soul to envelop the visible body The soul began to rotate and this was the beginning of its eternal and rational life 36e Therefore having been composed by Sameness Difference and Existence their mean and formed in right proportions the soul declares the sameness or difference of every object it meets when it is a sensible object the inner circle of the Diverse transmit its movement to the soul where opinions arise but when it is an intellectual object the circle of the Same turns perfectly round and true knowledge arises 37a c The world as a whole the planets and the stars are living visible gods 39e that have an important role in creating human beings and regulating their moral life 41d 7 The elements Edit Timaeus claims that the minute particle of each element had a special geometric shape tetrahedron fire octahedron air icosahedron water and cube earth Tetrahedron fire Octahedron air Icosahedron water Cube earth Dodecahedron the fifth element Timaeus makes conjectures on the composition of the four elements which some ancient Greeks thought constituted the physical universe earth water air and fire Timaeus links each of these elements to a certain Platonic solid the element of earth would be a cube of air an octahedron of water an icosahedron and of fire a tetrahedron 8 Each of these perfect polyhedra would be in turn composed of triangular faces the 30 60 90 and the 45 45 90 triangles The faces of each element could be broken down into its component right angled triangles either isosceles or scalene which could then be put together to form all of physical matter Particular characteristics of matter such as water s capacity to extinguish fire was then related to shape and size of the constituent triangles The fifth element i e Platonic solid was the dodecahedron whose faces are not triangular and which was taken to represent the shape of the Universe as a whole possibly because of all the elements it most approximates a sphere which Timaeus has already noted was the shape into which God had formed the Universe 9 The extensive final part of the dialogue addresses the creation of humans including the soul anatomy perception and transmigration of the soul Plato also discusses the creation of the body as well as the causes of bodily and psychic diseases 10 Later influence Edit Medieval manuscript of Calcidius Latin Timaeus translation The Timaeus was translated into Latin first by Marcus Tullius Cicero around 45 BC sections 27d 47b 11 and later by Calcidius in the 4th century AD up to section 53c Cicero s fragmentary translation was highly influential in late antiquity especially on Latin speaking Church Fathers such as Saint Augustine who did not appear to have access to the original Greek dialogue 12 The manuscript production and preservation of Cicero s Timaeus among many other Latin philosophical works is largely due to the works of monastic scholars especially at Corbie in North East France during the Carolingian Period 13 Calcidius more extensive translation of the Timaeus had a strong influence on medieval Neoplatonic cosmology and was commented on particularly by 12th century Christian philosophers of the Chartres School such as Thierry of Chartres and William of Conches who interpreting it in the light of the Christian faith understood the dialogue to refer to a creatio ex nihilo 14 Calcidius himself never explicitly linked the Platonic creation myth in the Timaeus with the Old Testament creation story in Genesis in his commentary on the dialogue 15 The dialogue was also highly influential in Arabic speaking regions beginning in the 10th century AD The Catalogue fihrist of Ibn al Nadim provides some evidence for an early translation by Ibn al Bitriq Al Kindi s circle It is believed that the Syrian Nestorian Christian Hunayn ibn Ishaq 809 873 AD corrected this translation or translated the entire work himself However only the circulation of many exegeses of Timaeus is confirmed 16 There is also evidence of Galen s commentary on the dialogue being highly influential in the Arabic speaking world with Galen s Synopsis being preserved in a medieval Arabic translation 17 In his introduction to Plato s Dialogues 19th century translator Benjamin Jowett argues that Of all the writings of Plato the Timaeus is the most obscure and repulsive to the modern reader 18 See also EditCritias dialogue Sophist Statesman Philebus Proclus Marcus Tullius Cicero Calcidius Augustine Johannes Kepler Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz Plotinus Esoteric cosmology Khora Religious cosmology Creation myth Teleological argumentNotes Edit See Burnet John 1913 Greek Philosophy Part 1 Thales to Plato London Macmillan p 328 Taylor AE 1928 A commentary on Plato s Timaeus Oxford Clarendon p 23 Nails Debra 2002 Critias III in The People of Plato Indianapolis Hackett pp 106 7 Philolaus Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy Retrieved 15 August 2019 Translation by Benjamin Jowett 1817 1893 reproduced in for example John Michael Greer Atlantis Llewelyn Worldwide 2007 ISBN 978 0 73870978 9 p 9 The components from which he made the soul and the way in which he made it were as follows In between the Being that is indivisible and always changeless and the one that is divisible and comes to be in the corporeal realm he mixed a third intermediate form of being derived from the other two Similarly he made a mixture of the Same and then one of the Different in between their indivisible and their corporeal divisible counterparts And he took the three mixtures and mixed them together to make a uniform mixture forcing the Different which was hard to mix into conformity with the Same Now when he had mixed these two with Being and from the three had made a single mixture he redivided the whole mixture into as many parts as his task required each part remaining a mixture of the Same the Different and Being 35a b translation Donald J Zeyl For a fuller discussion see Bartninkas V 2023 Traditional and Cosmic Gods in Later Plato and the Early Academy Cambridge Cambridge University Press 44 51 96 104 Plato Timaeus 53c Plato offers an analysis of third kind of reality between the intelligible and the sensible namely as Khora xwra This designates a receptacle Timaeus 48e a space a material substratum or an interval in which the forms were originally held it gives space and has maternal overtones a womb matrix For recent studies on this notion and its impact not only in history of philosophy but on phenomenology see for example Nader El Bizri Qui etes vous Khora Receiving Plato s Timaeus Existentia Meletai Sophias Vol XI Issue 3 4 2001 pp 473 490 Nader El Bizri ON KAI KHORA Situating Heidegger between theSophistand the Timaeus Studia Phaenomenologica Vol IV Issue 1 2 2004 pp 73 98 1 Nader El Bizri Ontopoiesisand the Interpretation of Plato sKhora Analecta Husserliana The Yearbook of Phenomenological Research Vol LXXXIII 2004 pp 25 45 For psychic diseases see Douglas R Campbell The Soul s Tomb Plato on the Body as the Cause of Psychic Disorders Apeiron 55 1 119 139 2022 For bodily diseases see Harold W Miller The Aetiology of Disease in Plato s Timaeus Transactions and Proceedings of the American Philological Association 93 175 187 1962 Cicero s version can be found at http www forumromanum org literature cicero timaeus html Hoenig Christina 2018 Plato s Timaeus and the Latin Tradition Cambridge University Press p 220 Ganz D 1990 Corbie in the Carolingian Renaissance Paris Stiefel Tina 1985 The Intellectual Revolution in Twelfth Century Europe New York St Martin s Press ISBN 978 0 312 41892 2 Magee John 2016 On Plato s Timaeus Calcidius Harvard University Press pp viii xi Arabic Translations of Platonic works Encyclopedia of Plato Das Aileen R September 2013 Galen and the Arabic traditions of Plato s Timaeus phd University of Warwick Bauer Susan Wise 2015 The Story of Science From the Writings of Aristotle to the Big Bang Theory 1st ed New York W W Norton p 13 ISBN 978 0 393 24326 0 OCLC 891611100 References EditBartninkas V 2023 Traditional and Cosmic Gods in Later Plato and the Early Academy Cambridge Cambridge University Press Broadie S 2012 Nature and Divinity in Plato s Timaeus Cambridge UK Cambridge Univ Press Campbell Douglas R The Soul s Tomb Plato on the Body as the Cause of Psychic Disorders Apeiron 55 1 119 139 2022 Cornford Francis Macdonald 1997 1935 Plato s Cosmology The Timaeus of Plato Translated with a Running Commentary Indianapolis Hackett Publishing Company Inc ISBN 978 0 87220 386 0 Gregory A 2000 Plato s Philosophy of Science London Duckworth Lennox J 1985 Plato s Unnatural Teleology In Platonic Investigations Edited by D J O Meara 195 218 Studies in Philosophy and the History of Philosophy 13 Washington DC Catholic Univ of America Press Johansen Thomas 2004 Plato s Natural Philosophy A Study of the Timaeus Critias Cambridge Cambridge University Press Martin Thomas Henry 1981 1841 Etudes sur le Timee de Platon Paris Librairie philosophique J Vrin Miller Harold W The Aetiology of Disease in Plato s Timaeus Transactions and Proceedings of the American Philological Association Mohr R D and B M Sattler eds 2010 One Book the Whole Universe Plato s Timaeus Today Las Vegas NV Parmenides Morgan K A 1998 Designer History Plato s Atlantis Story and Fourth Century Ideology Journal of Hellenic Studies 118 101 118 Morrow G R 1950 Necessity and Persuasion in Plato s Timaeus Philosophical Review 59 2 147 163 Murray K Sarah Jane 2008 From Plato to Lancelot A Preface to Chretien de Troyes Syracuse University Press ISBN 978 0 8156 3160 6 Osborne C 1996 Space Time Shape and Direction Creative Discourse in the Timaeus In Form and Argument in Late Plato Edited by C Gill and M M McCabe 179 211 Oxford Clarendon Pears Colin David 2015 2016 Congruency and Evil in Plato s Timaeus The Review of Metaphysics A Philosophical Quarterly 69 1 93 113 Reydams Schils G J ed 2003 Plato s Timaeus as Cultural Icon Notre Dame IN Univ of Notre Dame Press Sallis John 1999 Chorology On Beginning in Plato s Timaeus Bloomington Indiana University Press ISBN 978 0 253 21308 2 Slaveva Griffin Svetla 2005 A Feast of Speeches Form and Content in Plato s Timaeus Hermes 133 3 312 327 Taylor Alfred E 1928 A Commentary on Plato s Timaeus Oxford Clarendon External links Edit Wikisource has original text related to this article Timaeus Zeyl Donald Plato s Timaeus In Zalta Edward N ed Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy Plato Organicism Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy Greek text at Perseus Greek text at Greek Wikisource Timaeus 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