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Nice guy

"Nice guy" is an informal term, commonly used with either a literal or a sarcastic meaning, for a man.

In the literal sense, the term describes a man who is agreeable, gentle, compassionate, sensitive, and vulnerable.[1] The term is used both positively and negatively.[2] When used positively, and particularly when used as a preference or description by someone else, it is intended to imply a man who puts the needs of others before his own, avoids confrontations, does favors, provides emotional support, tries to stay out of trouble, and generally acts nicely towards others.[3] In the context of a relationship, it may also refer to traits of honesty, loyalty, romanticism, courtesy, and respect.

When used negatively, a nice guy implies a man who is unassertive or otherwise unattractive. The opposite of a genuine "nice guy" is commonly described as a "jerk", a term for a mean, selfish and uncaring person. A man is labeled a "jerk" on how he treats his partner, seen as the extreme case where he would not have a sensitive or kind side and is seen as a "macho man" and insensitive type.[4]

However, the term is also often used sarcastically, particularly in the context of dating,[1] to describe someone who believes himself to possess genuine "nice guy" characteristics, even though he actually does not, and who uses acts of friendship and basic social etiquette with the ulterior aim of progressing to a romantic or sexual relationship.[5][6] This is sometimes referred to as "nice guy syndrome", which is used to describe a sense of entitlement to sexual or romantic attention from women simply for being "nice", and irrational anger when that attention is not reciprocated.

Research on female preferences edit

"Nice guy" construct edit

In their qualitative analysis (1999), Herold and Milhausen[7] found that women associate different qualities with the "nice guy" label: "Some women offered flattering interpretations of the 'nice guy', characterizing him as committed, caring, and respectful of women. Some women, however, emphasized more negative aspects, considering the 'nice guy' to be boring, lacking confidence, and unattractive."[8] The "bad boys" were also divided into two categories, "as either confident, attractive, sexy, and exciting or as manipulative, unfaithful, disrespectful of women, and interested only in sex". This distinction helped further the understanding of why women might prefer "nice guys" or "not-nice guys". Women were also asked for their preferences and what values they may look in each relationship, such as attractiveness, and sexual desires in short- and long-term relationships.[further explanation needed][8]

Nice guys are sometimes suggested to be overbearing or lacking in vision and ambitions; these opinions suggest self-confidence as a key point and area of improvement. Often these ideas and views of a certain nice guy can contribute to a woman's willingness to pursue a romantic relationship.[9]

Researchers have therefore operationalized the "nice guy" and "jerk" constructs in different ways, some of which are outlined below.[1]

Results of research edit

Various studies explicitly try to elucidate the success, or lack thereof, of "nice guys" with women.[1][7][10][11]

Jensen-Campbell et al. (1995) operationalized "niceness" as prosocial behavior, which included agreeableness and altruism. They found that female attraction was a result of an interaction of both dominance and prosocial tendency. They suggest that altruism may be attractive to women when it is perceived as a form of agentic behavior.

Nice guys are usually seen as twice as attractive as men who present themselves as neutral, and eight times more attractive than the "jerks" in a dating profile. Social dominance enhances female attraction to a male who has shown in the relationship niceness, traits of kindness and warmth stated by women looking for long-term relationships, and less status and physical attractiveness.[12]

Sprecher and Regan (2002) found kindness, warmth, expressiveness, openness, and humor as desirable traits of a long-term partner. Social status indicators, such as future earning potential (wealth), were not viewed as more desirable traits when compared to the previous traits. Participants suggested they wanted more humor, expressiveness and warmth from their partner than is expressed with their friends.[13]

Herold and Milhausen (1998) found that women are more likely to report wanting a nice guy but do not choose them in their real dating life. They also found that women perceived nice guys as having less sexual partners in general but perceived them as more eligible for dating. Women claim to prefer to date people who have less sexual experience [sic]. A third of the women, however, had reported dating multiple partners that had had more sexual experience than them [sic - impossible to objectively know this]. There was a dichotomous relationship between a woman’s perception of what a nice guy is and does and whether or not he "finishes last", as the common adage states. If a woman believes that a nice guy is kind and respectful to women then they will say that he does not finish last. If the nice guy is perceived as being passive or unattractive then they will say that he does finish last.[14]

Urbaniak and Killman (2003) constructed vignettes of four hypothetical dating show contestants: "Nice Todd" vs. "Neutral Todd" vs. "Jerk Todd" vs. "Michael", who was created to be a control. "Nice Todd" described a "real man" as "in touch with his feelings", kind and attentive, non-macho, and interested in putting his partner's pleasure first. "Neutral Todd" described a "real man" as someone who "knows what he wants and knows how to get it", and who is good to the woman he loves. "Jerk Todd" described a "real man" as someone who "knows what he wants and knows how to get it", who keeps everyone else on their toes, and avoids "touch-feely" stuff. "Michael" described a "real man" as relaxed and positive. In two studies, Urbaniak and Kilmann found that women claimed to prefer "Nice Todd" over "Neutral Todd" and "Jerk Todd", relative to "Michael" even at differing levels of physical attractiveness. They also found that for purely sexual relationships, "niceness appeared relatively less influential than physical attractiveness". After acknowledging that women's preference for "niceness" could be inflated by the social desirability bias, especially due to their use of verbal scripts, they conclude that "our overall results did not favor the nice guy stereotype; instead, our results suggested that women’s attitudes (as expressed in previous studies) do, in fact, generally match their behaviors. Niceness was a robust, positive factor in women’s choices of a dating partner and in how desirable they rated Todd."[15]

McDaniel (2005) constructed vignettes of dates with a stereotypical "nice guy" vs. a stereotypical "fun/sexy guy", and attempted to make them both sound positive. Questionnaires were offered to a group of women in which they were presented with two scenarios, one involving the nice guy and the other involving the fun/sexy guy. The two variables being measured were the women’s likelihood of picking a nice guy versus a fun/sexy guy, and their reasons for so doing. It was found that there was a stronger correlation between a woman’s perceived positive traits in the man than in her goals for the dating relationship, both of which were measured in the questionnaire. The two traits that predicted likelihood for wanting to pursue a relationship were physical attractiveness and niceness/sweetness. However, if a man was perceived to be nice/sweet but was not found physically attractive it hurt his chances of a romantic relationship even more. In the study there was no way to directly measure the physical attractiveness of the men with whom they were presented; they only had information with which they could draw conclusions. Because they could not see the men and only had information to use, McDaniel found that this may suggest that women romanticize the idea of a nice/sweet guy, but often do not choose him because in reality he is likely to be less attractive than a so-called "jerk".[16]

A 2008 study at New Mexico State University in Las Cruces showed that "nice guys" report having significantly fewer sexual partners than "bad boys".[17][18]

Barclay (2010) found that when all other factors are held constant, guys who perform generous acts are rated as more desirable for dates and long-term relationships than non-generous guys. This study used a series of matched descriptions where each male was presented in a generous or a control version which differed only in whether the man tended to help others. The author suggests that niceness itself is desirable to women, but tends to be used by men who are less attractive in other domains, and this is what creates the appearance of "nice guys finish last".[19]

Judge et al. (2011) concluded that "Nice guys do not necessarily finish last, but they do finish a distant second in terms of earnings ... yet, seen from the perspective of gender equity, even the nice guys seem to be making out quite well relative to either agreeable or disagreeable women."[20]

Sadalla, Kenrick, and Vershure (1985) found that women were sexually attracted to dominance in men (though dominance did not make men likable to women), and that dominance in women had no effect on men. This may further suggest that the nice guy myth is one of sexual preference, and not of dating preference. Women appear in practically all studies to be accepting of romantic relationships with nice guys but are less likely to consider them casual sexual partners.[21]

Bogaert and Fisher (1995) studied the relationships between the personalities of university men and their number of sexual partners. They found a correlation between a man's number of sexual partners, and the traits of sensation-seeking, hypermasculinity, physical attractiveness, and testosterone levels. They also discovered a correlation between maximum monthly number of partners, and the traits of dominance and psychoticism. Bogaert and Fisher suggest that an underlying construct labelled "disinhibition" could be used to explain most of these differences. They suggest that disinhibition would correlate negatively with "agreeableness" and "conscientiousness" from the Big Five personality model.[22]

Botwin, Buss and Shackelford (1997) found that women had a higher preference for surgency and dominance in their mates than men did, in a study of dating couples and newlyweds.[23]

Ahmetoglu and Swami (2012) found that men were rated to be more attractive if women perceived them as more dominant, represented in the study by open body posture and gesticulation.[24]

Other viewpoints edit

The "nice guys finish last" view edit

A common aphorism is that "nice guys finish last".[10] The phrase is based on a quote by Brooklyn Dodgers manager Leo Durocher in 1946, which was then condensed by journalists.[25][26] The original quote by Durocher was, "The nice guys are all over there, in seventh place" (6 July 1946),[25][27] when referring to the 1946 New York Giants, who were the Dodger's rivals. The seventh place that Durocher was referring to was actually second-to-last place in the National League; many variants appear in later works,[28] including Durocher's autobiography, Nice Guys Finish Last.[29] The Giants would finish the 1946 season in the National League cellar, while Durocher's Dodgers would end up in second place.[30]

Simplistically, the term "nice guy" could be an adjectival phrase describing what appears to be a friendly, kind, or courteous man. The "nice guys finish last" phrase is also said to be coined by American biologist Garrett Hardin to sum up the selfish gene theory of life and evolution. This was disputed by Richard Dawkins, who wrote the book The Selfish Gene. Dawkins was misinterpreted by many as confirming the "nice guy finishing last" view, but refuted the claims in the BBC documentary Nice Guys Finish First.[31]

The "nice guys finish last" view in relationships is that there is a discrepancy between women's stated preferences and their actual choices in men. In other words, women say that they want nice guys, but really go for men who are "jerks" or "bad boys" in the end. This may lead to men's discouragement in attempting to have casual sexual relationships with women and also in their pursuit of romantic relationships. Stephan Desrochers claims, in a 1995 article in the journal Sex Roles, that many "sensitive" men, based on their own personal experience, do not believe women actually want "nice guys". Because of this belief, men are less likely to pursue a romantic relationship with a woman if they perceive themselves as nice guys. If they do not believe that women will be sexually or romantically attracted to them because of their more feminine or "nice" traits, then they will likely be concerned, possibly another trait that leads to women's preference for jerks. In other words, men who are more confident and worry less if they are being perceived a certain way are more likely to have a romantic or casual sexual relationship with a woman of their choice.[32]

According to McDaniel, popular culture and dating advice "suggest that women claim they want a 'nice guy' because they believe that is what is expected of them when, in reality, they want the so-called 'challenge' that comes with dating a not-so-nice guy".[1]

Urbaniak & Kilmann write that:

Although women often portray themselves as wanting to date kind, sensitive, and emotionally expressive men, the nice guy stereotype contends that, when actually presented with a choice between such a 'nice guy' and an unkind, insensitive, emotionally-closed, 'macho man' or 'jerk,' they invariably reject the nice guy in favor of his 'so-called' macho competitor.[10]

Another perspective is that women do want "nice guys", at least when they are looking for a romantic relationship. Desrochers (1995) suggests that "it still seems popular to believe that women in contemporary America prefer men who are 'sensitive', or have feminine personality traits". In a study done by Ahmetoglu and Swami (2012) it was found that women were more sexually attracted to men who had more dominant behaviors compared to men who were more closed off.[33]

Herold and Milhausen[34] found that 56% of 165 university women claimed to agree with the statement: "You may have heard the expression, 'Nice guys finish last.' In terms of dating, and sex, do you think women are less likely to have sex with men who are 'nice' than men who are 'not nice'?" A third view is that while "nice guys" may not be as successful at attracting women sexually, they may be sought after by women looking for long-term romantic relationships (however, "nice guys need not lose all hope, with studies showing that while women like 'bad boys' for flings, they tend to settle down with more caring types". The "bad boys" tending to exhibit the dark triad, i.e., "the self-obsession of narcissism, the impulsive, thrill-seeking and callous behavior of the psychopath and the deceitful and exploitative nature of Machiavellianism". It is a possibility that women leave to escape their circumstances of abuse, disease, or pregnancy to seek a chance with the nice guy (they rejected previously), afterwards.[35]

Herold and Milhausen claim: "While 'nice guys' may not be competitive in terms of numbers of sexual partners, they tend to be more successful with respect to longer-term, committed relationships." This is due to the perception that "nice guys" generally display an interest in long-term relationships, in contrast to the archetypal "jerk", who only seeks sexual partners and will move on sooner for their lack of interest in long-term relationships.[34]

Another study indicates that "for brief affairs, women tend to prefer a dominating, powerful and promiscuous man". Further evidence appears in a 2005 study in Prague: "Since women can always get a man for a one-night stand, they gain an advantage if they find partners for child-rearing."[36]

"Nice guy" syndrome edit

The terms "nice guy" and "nice guy syndrome" can be used sarcastically to describe a man who views himself as a prototypical "nice guy", but whose "nice deeds" are deemed to be solely motivated by a desire to court women. From said courting, the "nice guy" may hope to form a romantic relationship or may be motivated by a simple desire to increase his sexual activity. The results of failure are often resentment toward women and/or society. The "nice guy" is commonly said to be put by women "into the friend zone" who do not reciprocate his romantic or sexual interest. These men believe in this motive because of the societal roles that say women belong to them. A reasoning behind this can be because women are sexualized in video games, television, and movies. Third-wave feminist interpretations tend to see this resentment as being based upon an assumption by men that they are entitled to sex and are therefore confused when they find that it is not forthcoming despite their supposed "niceness".[37] More male orientated interpretations claim that the resentment is down to the fact that society, and the vast majority of people in spoken conversation, claim to be attracted to traits such as honesty, integrity and kindness, when in reality more superficial considerations trigger attraction. According to this interpretation, people who display wealth, good looks, dominance, and confidence tend to succeed more in romance than do "nice guys". Nice guys are therefore resentful at the inconsistency between what people claim to be attracted to and by how they act in reality.[38][39] At times, these men are also known by the term "white knight".

In early 2002, the web site Heartless Bitches International (HBI)[40] published several "rants" on the concept of the nice guy. The central theme was that a genuinely nice male is desirable, but that many nice guys are insecure men unwilling to articulate their romantic or sexual feelings directly.

According to journalist Paris Martineau, the incel and red pill movements (part of the anti-feminist manosphere) recruit depressed, frustrated men – who may suffer from "nice guy syndrome" – into the alt-right.[41]

See also edit

References edit

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For other uses see Nice Guy disambiguation Nice guy is an informal term commonly used with either a literal or a sarcastic meaning for a man In the literal sense the term describes a man who is agreeable gentle compassionate sensitive and vulnerable 1 The term is used both positively and negatively 2 When used positively and particularly when used as a preference or description by someone else it is intended to imply a man who puts the needs of others before his own avoids confrontations does favors provides emotional support tries to stay out of trouble and generally acts nicely towards others 3 In the context of a relationship it may also refer to traits of honesty loyalty romanticism courtesy and respect When used negatively a nice guy implies a man who is unassertive or otherwise unattractive The opposite of a genuine nice guy is commonly described as a jerk a term for a mean selfish and uncaring person A man is labeled a jerk on how he treats his partner seen as the extreme case where he would not have a sensitive or kind side and is seen as a macho man and insensitive type 4 However the term is also often used sarcastically particularly in the context of dating 1 to describe someone who believes himself to possess genuine nice guy characteristics even though he actually does not and who uses acts of friendship and basic social etiquette with the ulterior aim of progressing to a romantic or sexual relationship 5 6 This is sometimes referred to as nice guy syndrome which is used to describe a sense of entitlement to sexual or romantic attention from women simply for being nice and irrational anger when that attention is not reciprocated Contents 1 Research on female preferences 1 1 Nice guy construct 1 2 Results of research 2 Other viewpoints 2 1 The nice guys finish last view 2 2 Nice guy syndrome 3 See also 4 ReferencesResearch on female preferences edit Nice guy construct edit In their qualitative analysis 1999 Herold and Milhausen 7 found that women associate different qualities with the nice guy label Some women offered flattering interpretations of the nice guy characterizing him as committed caring and respectful of women Some women however emphasized more negative aspects considering the nice guy to be boring lacking confidence and unattractive 8 The bad boys were also divided into two categories as either confident attractive sexy and exciting or as manipulative unfaithful disrespectful of women and interested only in sex This distinction helped further the understanding of why women might prefer nice guys or not nice guys Women were also asked for their preferences and what values they may look in each relationship such as attractiveness and sexual desires in short and long term relationships further explanation needed 8 Nice guys are sometimes suggested to be overbearing or lacking in vision and ambitions these opinions suggest self confidence as a key point and area of improvement Often these ideas and views of a certain nice guy can contribute to a woman s willingness to pursue a romantic relationship 9 Researchers have therefore operationalized the nice guy and jerk constructs in different ways some of which are outlined below 1 Results of research edit Various studies explicitly try to elucidate the success or lack thereof of nice guys with women 1 7 10 11 Jensen Campbell et al 1995 operationalized niceness as prosocial behavior which included agreeableness and altruism They found that female attraction was a result of an interaction of both dominance and prosocial tendency They suggest that altruism may be attractive to women when it is perceived as a form of agentic behavior Nice guys are usually seen as twice as attractive as men who present themselves as neutral and eight times more attractive than the jerks in a dating profile Social dominance enhances female attraction to a male who has shown in the relationship niceness traits of kindness and warmth stated by women looking for long term relationships and less status and physical attractiveness 12 Sprecher and Regan 2002 found kindness warmth expressiveness openness and humor as desirable traits of a long term partner Social status indicators such as future earning potential wealth were not viewed as more desirable traits when compared to the previous traits Participants suggested they wanted more humor expressiveness and warmth from their partner than is expressed with their friends 13 Herold and Milhausen 1998 found that women are more likely to report wanting a nice guy but do not choose them in their real dating life They also found that women perceived nice guys as having less sexual partners in general but perceived them as more eligible for dating Women claim to prefer to date people who have less sexual experience sic A third of the women however had reported dating multiple partners that had had more sexual experience than them sic impossible to objectively know this There was a dichotomous relationship between a woman s perception of what a nice guy is and does and whether or not he finishes last as the common adage states If a woman believes that a nice guy is kind and respectful to women then they will say that he does not finish last If the nice guy is perceived as being passive or unattractive then they will say that he does finish last 14 Urbaniak and Killman 2003 constructed vignettes of four hypothetical dating show contestants Nice Todd vs Neutral Todd vs Jerk Todd vs Michael who was created to be a control Nice Todd described a real man as in touch with his feelings kind and attentive non macho and interested in putting his partner s pleasure first Neutral Todd described a real man as someone who knows what he wants and knows how to get it and who is good to the woman he loves Jerk Todd described a real man as someone who knows what he wants and knows how to get it who keeps everyone else on their toes and avoids touch feely stuff Michael described a real man as relaxed and positive In two studies Urbaniak and Kilmann found that women claimed to prefer Nice Todd over Neutral Todd and Jerk Todd relative to Michael even at differing levels of physical attractiveness They also found that for purely sexual relationships niceness appeared relatively less influential than physical attractiveness After acknowledging that women s preference for niceness could be inflated by the social desirability bias especially due to their use of verbal scripts they conclude that our overall results did not favor the nice guy stereotype instead our results suggested that women s attitudes as expressed in previous studies do in fact generally match their behaviors Niceness was a robust positive factor in women s choices of a dating partner and in how desirable they rated Todd 15 McDaniel 2005 constructed vignettes of dates with a stereotypical nice guy vs a stereotypical fun sexy guy and attempted to make them both sound positive Questionnaires were offered to a group of women in which they were presented with two scenarios one involving the nice guy and the other involving the fun sexy guy The two variables being measured were the women s likelihood of picking a nice guy versus a fun sexy guy and their reasons for so doing It was found that there was a stronger correlation between a woman s perceived positive traits in the man than in her goals for the dating relationship both of which were measured in the questionnaire The two traits that predicted likelihood for wanting to pursue a relationship were physical attractiveness and niceness sweetness However if a man was perceived to be nice sweet but was not found physically attractive it hurt his chances of a romantic relationship even more In the study there was no way to directly measure the physical attractiveness of the men with whom they were presented they only had information with which they could draw conclusions Because they could not see the men and only had information to use McDaniel found that this may suggest that women romanticize the idea of a nice sweet guy but often do not choose him because in reality he is likely to be less attractive than a so called jerk 16 A 2008 study at New Mexico State University in Las Cruces showed that nice guys report having significantly fewer sexual partners than bad boys 17 18 Barclay 2010 found that when all other factors are held constant guys who perform generous acts are rated as more desirable for dates and long term relationships than non generous guys This study used a series of matched descriptions where each male was presented in a generous or a control version which differed only in whether the man tended to help others The author suggests that niceness itself is desirable to women but tends to be used by men who are less attractive in other domains and this is what creates the appearance of nice guys finish last 19 Judge et al 2011 concluded that Nice guys do not necessarily finish last but they do finish a distant second in terms of earnings yet seen from the perspective of gender equity even the nice guys seem to be making out quite well relative to either agreeable or disagreeable women 20 Sadalla Kenrick and Vershure 1985 found that women were sexually attracted to dominance in men though dominance did not make men likable to women and that dominance in women had no effect on men This may further suggest that the nice guy myth is one of sexual preference and not of dating preference Women appear in practically all studies to be accepting of romantic relationships with nice guys but are less likely to consider them casual sexual partners 21 Bogaert and Fisher 1995 studied the relationships between the personalities of university men and their number of sexual partners They found a correlation between a man s number of sexual partners and the traits of sensation seeking hypermasculinity physical attractiveness and testosterone levels They also discovered a correlation between maximum monthly number of partners and the traits of dominance and psychoticism Bogaert and Fisher suggest that an underlying construct labelled disinhibition could be used to explain most of these differences They suggest that disinhibition would correlate negatively with agreeableness and conscientiousness from the Big Five personality model 22 Botwin Buss and Shackelford 1997 found that women had a higher preference for surgency and dominance in their mates than men did in a study of dating couples and newlyweds 23 Ahmetoglu and Swami 2012 found that men were rated to be more attractive if women perceived them as more dominant represented in the study by open body posture and gesticulation 24 Other viewpoints editThe nice guys finish last view edit A common aphorism is that nice guys finish last 10 The phrase is based on a quote by Brooklyn Dodgers manager Leo Durocher in 1946 which was then condensed by journalists 25 26 The original quote by Durocher was The nice guys are all over there in seventh place 6 July 1946 25 27 when referring to the 1946 New York Giants who were the Dodger s rivals The seventh place that Durocher was referring to was actually second to last place in the National League many variants appear in later works 28 including Durocher s autobiography Nice Guys Finish Last 29 The Giants would finish the 1946 season in the National League cellar while Durocher s Dodgers would end up in second place 30 Simplistically the term nice guy could be an adjectival phrase describing what appears to be a friendly kind or courteous man The nice guys finish last phrase is also said to be coined by American biologist Garrett Hardin to sum up the selfish gene theory of life and evolution This was disputed by Richard Dawkins who wrote the book The Selfish Gene Dawkins was misinterpreted by many as confirming the nice guy finishing last view but refuted the claims in the BBC documentary Nice Guys Finish First 31 The nice guys finish last view in relationships is that there is a discrepancy between women s stated preferences and their actual choices in men In other words women say that they want nice guys but really go for men who are jerks or bad boys in the end This may lead to men s discouragement in attempting to have casual sexual relationships with women and also in their pursuit of romantic relationships Stephan Desrochers claims in a 1995 article in the journal Sex Roles that many sensitive men based on their own personal experience do not believe women actually want nice guys Because of this belief men are less likely to pursue a romantic relationship with a woman if they perceive themselves as nice guys If they do not believe that women will be sexually or romantically attracted to them because of their more feminine or nice traits then they will likely be concerned possibly another trait that leads to women s preference for jerks In other words men who are more confident and worry less if they are being perceived a certain way are more likely to have a romantic or casual sexual relationship with a woman of their choice 32 According to McDaniel popular culture and dating advice suggest that women claim they want a nice guy because they believe that is what is expected of them when in reality they want the so called challenge that comes with dating a not so nice guy 1 Urbaniak amp Kilmann write that Although women often portray themselves as wanting to date kind sensitive and emotionally expressive men the nice guy stereotype contends that when actually presented with a choice between such a nice guy and an unkind insensitive emotionally closed macho man or jerk they invariably reject the nice guy in favor of his so called macho competitor 10 Another perspective is that women do want nice guys at least when they are looking for a romantic relationship Desrochers 1995 suggests that it still seems popular to believe that women in contemporary America prefer men who are sensitive or have feminine personality traits In a study done by Ahmetoglu and Swami 2012 it was found that women were more sexually attracted to men who had more dominant behaviors compared to men who were more closed off 33 Herold and Milhausen 34 found that 56 of 165 university women claimed to agree with the statement You may have heard the expression Nice guys finish last In terms of dating and sex do you think women are less likely to have sex with men who are nice than men who are not nice A third view is that while nice guys may not be as successful at attracting women sexually they may be sought after by women looking for long term romantic relationships however nice guys need not lose all hope with studies showing that while women like bad boys for flings they tend to settle down with more caring types The bad boys tending to exhibit the dark triad i e the self obsession of narcissism the impulsive thrill seeking and callous behavior of the psychopath and the deceitful and exploitative nature of Machiavellianism It is a possibility that women leave to escape their circumstances of abuse disease or pregnancy to seek a chance with the nice guy they rejected previously afterwards 35 Herold and Milhausen claim While nice guys may not be competitive in terms of numbers of sexual partners they tend to be more successful with respect to longer term committed relationships This is due to the perception that nice guys generally display an interest in long term relationships in contrast to the archetypal jerk who only seeks sexual partners and will move on sooner for their lack of interest in long term relationships 34 Another study indicates that for brief affairs women tend to prefer a dominating powerful and promiscuous man Further evidence appears in a 2005 study in Prague Since women can always get a man for a one night stand they gain an advantage if they find partners for child rearing 36 Nice guy syndrome edit The terms nice guy and nice guy syndrome can be used sarcastically to describe a man who views himself as a prototypical nice guy but whose nice deeds are deemed to be solely motivated by a desire to court women From said courting the nice guy may hope to form a romantic relationship or may be motivated by a simple desire to increase his sexual activity The results of failure are often resentment toward women and or society The nice guy is commonly said to be put by women into the friend zone who do not reciprocate his romantic or sexual interest These men believe in this motive because of the societal roles that say women belong to them A reasoning behind this can be because women are sexualized in video games television and movies Third wave feminist interpretations tend to see this resentment as being based upon an assumption by men that they are entitled to sex and are therefore confused when they find that it is not forthcoming despite their supposed niceness 37 More male orientated interpretations claim that the resentment is down to the fact that society and the vast majority of people in spoken conversation claim to be attracted to traits such as honesty integrity and kindness when in reality more superficial considerations trigger attraction According to this interpretation people who display wealth good looks dominance and confidence tend to succeed more in romance than do nice guys Nice guys are therefore resentful at the inconsistency between what people claim to be attracted to and by how they act in reality 38 39 At times these men are also known by the term white knight In early 2002 the web site Heartless Bitches International HBI 40 published several rants on the concept of the nice guy The central theme was that a genuinely nice male is desirable but that many nice guys are insecure men unwilling to articulate their romantic or sexual feelings directly According to journalist Paris Martineau the incel and red pill movements part of the anti feminist manosphere recruit depressed frustrated men who may suffer from nice guy syndrome into the alt right 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