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You Didn't Have to Be So Nice

"You Didn't Have to Be So Nice" is a song by the American folk-rock band the Lovin' Spoonful. Written by John Sebastian and Steve Boone, it was issued on a non-album single in November 1965. The song was the Lovin' Spoonful's second-consecutive single to enter the top ten in the United States, peaking at number ten. It was later included on the band's second album, Daydream, released in March 1966.

"You Didn't Have to Be So Nice"
U.S. picture sleeve
Single by the Lovin' Spoonful
B-side"My Gal"
ReleasedNovember 1965 (1965-11)
RecordedNovember 1965
StudioBell Sound, New York City
Genre
Length2:29
LabelKama Sutra
Songwriter(s)John Sebastian, Steve Boone
Producer(s)Erik Jacobsen
The Lovin' Spoonful singles chronology
"Do You Believe in Magic"
(1965)
"You Didn't Have to Be So Nice"
(1965)
"Daydream"
(1966)
Audio
"You Didn't Have to Be So Nice" on YouTube

Boone's initial inspiration for the piece was remark he made on a date with Nurit Wilde. He began the song on the piano as a basic melodic figure, but appealed to Sebastian for help in finishing it. The song marked the first of several on which the two collaborated. The finishing recording employs a complex vocal arrangement devised by Jerry Yester, which later inspired Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys in composing his 1966 song "God Only Knows".

Background and composition edit

Steve Boone wrote "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice" at the Greenwich Village home of the parents of Joe Butler's girlfriend, Leslie Vega.[1][2] Drawing inspiration from a remark he made on a date with Nurit Wilde, Boone began the composition on the piano as a basic melodic figure, which he initially titled "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice, I Would Have Liked You Anyway".[3] After struggling to finish the song, he appealed to John Sebastian, the Lovin' Spoonful's principal songwriter, and the two collaborated to finish it.[2][nb 1]

The rock critic Paul Nelson considers "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice" representative of folk rock,[6] a genre the Lovin' Spoonful were among the first to popularize.[7][8][9] The author Richie Unterberger writes that like many folk-rock acts, the Lovin' Spoonful's style bent towards pop music,[10][11] and he considers "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice" "one of their poppier offerings".[11] The musicologist James E. Perone also considers the song an example of pop music.[12]

According to Perone, more than any other song by the Lovin' Spoonful, "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice" exhibits the band's stylistic connections to British Invasion acts, especially the Beatles. He identifies several hooks within the song, including an accompaniment figure of stepwise descending triplets played on an electric piano, an instrument the Beatles employed heavily in 1965 and 1966.[13] For Perone, the song's most noticeable hook is a melodic figure in its introduction, which appears again later in the vocal part. He contends that the vocal arrangement's complexity – particularly the harmony, which switches between answering the lead, serving as its background or harmonizing at the end of phrases – anticipates the vocal arrangements heard on music released over the next year, including on the Beatles' album Revolver and the Beach Boys' Pet Sounds.[13][nb 2] In his 1991 memoir, Brian Wilson, the principal songwriter of the Beach Boys, stated that "a John Sebastian song I had been listening to" inspired the melody of his 1966 song "God Only Knows",[16] a statement the biographer Mark Dillon connects to the vocal layering on "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice".[17][nb 3]

Recording and release edit

Amid their busy TV- and live-date schedule,[21] the Lovin' Spoonful recorded "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice" in November 1965 at Bell Sound Studios in New York City.[2] The band's regular producer, Erik Jacobsen, produced the sessions. Jerry Yester, a friend of the band and a member of the Modern Folk Quartet, arranged the vocals, which features Sebastian on lead and Butler on backing.[4]

The finished recording features similar elements to the band's debut single, "Do You Believe in Magic", including a drum fill introduction, a shuffling tempo and Sebastian playing the autoharp.[4] The band overdubbed several elements, including chimes which had been leftover from another session,[2][4] an addition the author Richie Unterberger compares to the productions of Phil Spector.[11] Sebastian and Butler played a drum overdub together,[4] which Sebastian later said was indebted to the style of the session drummer Hal Blaine.[2] Zal Yanovsky added muted lead guitar work, inspired by the pedal steel guitar playing of Pete Drake on "Pleading".[2]

Work on "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice" was completed too late for it to be included on the Lovin' Spoonful's debut album, Do You Believe in Magic,[4] which Kama Sutra Records issued in November 1965.[22] The label instead issued the song that month as a non-album single.[23] The review panel for Billboard magazine predicted the song would equal the success of "Do You Believe in Magic",[24] which had peaked at number nine on the magazine's Hot 100 chart.[25] "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice" entered the Hot 100 on November 27, and it remained on the chart for twelve weeks, peaking in January 1966 at number ten,[25][2] and it reached number two in Canada.[26] The song was later included on the band's second album, Daydream,[27] released in March 1966.[2]

Like "Do You Believe in Magic", "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice" failed to chart in the U.K.[28][29] Pye International Records, which held U.K. distribution rights to Kama Sutra product,[30] issued the single there in January 1966.[31][nb 4] The band remained generally unknown in the U.K. until April, when their follow-up single "Daydream" made to number two in the British charts in conjunction with a ten-day promotional tour.[35][36]

Charts edit

Weekly chart performance
Chart (1965–66) Peak
position
Canadian R.P.M. Play Sheet[26] 2
U.S. Billboard Hot 100[37] 10
U.S. Cash Box Top 100[38] 11
U.S. Record World 100 Top Pops[39] 9

Notes edit

  1. ^ The song was the first on which the pair collaborated.[4] Their other joint credits include the 1966 songs "Butchie's Tune", "Full Measure" and "Summer in the City", the latter of which is also credited to Sebastian's brother, Mark.[5]
  2. ^ Paul McCartney later acknowledged the Lovin' Spoonful's third single, "Daydream", as the inspiration for the Beatles' "Good Day Sunshine" on Revolver.[14] The musicologist Walter Everett suggests an additional inspiration may have been the drum triplets in the intro of "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice", which appear in the same place in the Beatles' song.[15]
  3. ^ Wilson had stopped regularly touring with the Beach Boys in December 1964,[18] but he saw the Lovin' Spoonful perform at The Trip,[19] a club on the Sunset Strip in Los Angeles, where the band held a multi-week residency in December 1965.[20]
  4. ^ The chart performance of "Do You Believe in Magic" was hindered by the release of a similar-sounding cover by an English band, the Pack.[32][33][34] Another English band, the Boston Crabs, covered "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice" around the time the original was issued in the U.K., in January 1966.[31]

References edit

  1. ^ Boone & Moss 2014, p. 89.
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h Diken 2002.
  3. ^ Boone & Moss 2014, pp. 89–90.
  4. ^ a b c d e f Boone & Moss 2014, p. 90.
  5. ^ Boone & Moss 2014, pp. 107, 142–143, 147–148.
  6. ^ Nelson 1980, p. 234.
  7. ^ Jackson 2015, p. 129.
  8. ^ Helander 1999, p. 236.
  9. ^ Milward 2021, p. 82.
  10. ^ Unterberger, Richie. "The Lovin' Spoonful biography". AllMusic. from the original on May 14, 2023. Retrieved August 2, 2023.
  11. ^ a b c Unterberger, Richie. "You Didn't Have to Be So Nice". AllMusic. from the original on March 23, 2019. Retrieved January 13, 2024.
  12. ^ Perone 2018, p. 115.
  13. ^ a b Perone 2018, p. 118.
  14. ^ Everett 1999, p. 58.
  15. ^ Everett 1999, p. 328n106.
  16. ^ Wilson & Gold 1991, p. 138.
  17. ^ Dillon 2012, p. 112.
  18. ^ Badman 2004, p. 75.
  19. ^ Priore 2007, pp. 45, 49.
  20. ^ Boone & Moss 2014, pp. 84, 103.
  21. ^ Boone & Moss 2014, pp. 104–105.
  22. ^ Edmonds 2002.
  23. ^ Jackson 2015, p. xx.
  24. ^ "Spotlight Singles". Billboard. November 13, 1965. p. 18.
  25. ^ a b "The Lovin' Spoonful Chart History (Hot 100)". Billboard. from the original on November 21, 2022. Retrieved March 11, 2023.
  26. ^ a b "R.P.M. Play Sheet (January 31, 1966)". Library and Archives Canada. July 17, 2013. Retrieved April 17, 2023.
  27. ^ Boone & Moss 2014, p. 105.
  28. ^ Boone & Moss 2014, p. 112.
  29. ^ "Lovin' Spoonful". Official Charts Company. from the original on August 16, 2022. Retrieved March 19, 2023.
  30. ^ Anon. (October 2, 1965). "Kama-Sutra, Pye Contract". Billboard. p. 10 – via Google Books.
  31. ^ a b Farmer, Bob (January 31, 1966). "In the Groove: Mark Leeman May Yet Be 'A Name'". Lincolnshire Echo. p. 4 – via Newspapers.com.
  32. ^ Anon. (October 30, 1965). "Record Review: This Group Won't Need Magic". Whitstable Times. p. 3 – via Newspapers.com. Sales [of 'Do You Believe in Magic'] are being affected by a near-copy turned out by another group ...
  33. ^ Disker (September 25, 1965). "Off the Record: Still More New Names". Liverpool Echo. p. 4 – via Newspapers.com.
  34. ^ Anon. (October 19, 1965). "Paul Still No. 1 in America". Liverpool Echo. p. 13 – via Newspapers.com.
  35. ^ Boone & Moss 2014, pp. 112, 114–120.
  36. ^ Jones, Alan (May 2, 1966). "Sweet Music from the Lovin' Spoonful". Lincolnshire Echo. p. 4 – via Newspapers.com.
  37. ^ "The Lovin' Spoonful Chart History (Hot 100)". Billboard. from the original on May 21, 2022. Retrieved April 17, 2023.
  38. ^ "Cash Box Top 100 – Week of January 22, 1966". Cash Box. January 22, 1966. p. 4.
  39. ^ "Record World 100 Top Pops – Week of January 22, 1966". Record World. January 22, 1966. p. 17.

Sources edit

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You Didn t Have to Be So Nice is a song by the American folk rock band the Lovin Spoonful Written by John Sebastian and Steve Boone it was issued on a non album single in November 1965 The song was the Lovin Spoonful s second consecutive single to enter the top ten in the United States peaking at number ten It was later included on the band s second album Daydream released in March 1966 You Didn t Have to Be So Nice U S picture sleeveSingle by the Lovin SpoonfulB side My Gal ReleasedNovember 1965 1965 11 RecordedNovember 1965StudioBell Sound New York CityGenrePop folk rockLength2 29LabelKama SutraSongwriter s John Sebastian Steve BooneProducer s Erik JacobsenThe Lovin Spoonful singles chronology Do You Believe in Magic 1965 You Didn t Have to Be So Nice 1965 Daydream 1966 Audio You Didn t Have to Be So Nice on YouTubeBoone s initial inspiration for the piece was remark he made on a date with Nurit Wilde He began the song on the piano as a basic melodic figure but appealed to Sebastian for help in finishing it The song marked the first of several on which the two collaborated The finishing recording employs a complex vocal arrangement devised by Jerry Yester which later inspired Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys in composing his 1966 song God Only Knows You Didn t Have to Be So Nice source source by The Lovin Spoonful from Daydream Kama Sutra Records 1966 Buddah Records 2000 format Ogg Problems playing this file See media help Contents 1 Background and composition 2 Recording and release 3 Charts 4 Notes 5 References 6 SourcesBackground and composition editSteve Boone wrote You Didn t Have to Be So Nice at the Greenwich Village home of the parents of Joe Butler s girlfriend Leslie Vega 1 2 Drawing inspiration from a remark he made on a date with Nurit Wilde Boone began the composition on the piano as a basic melodic figure which he initially titled You Didn t Have to Be So Nice I Would Have Liked You Anyway 3 After struggling to finish the song he appealed to John Sebastian the Lovin Spoonful s principal songwriter and the two collaborated to finish it 2 nb 1 The rock critic Paul Nelson considers You Didn t Have to Be So Nice representative of folk rock 6 a genre the Lovin Spoonful were among the first to popularize 7 8 9 The author Richie Unterberger writes that like many folk rock acts the Lovin Spoonful s style bent towards pop music 10 11 and he considers You Didn t Have to Be So Nice one of their poppier offerings 11 The musicologist James E Perone also considers the song an example of pop music 12 According to Perone more than any other song by the Lovin Spoonful You Didn t Have to Be So Nice exhibits the band s stylistic connections to British Invasion acts especially the Beatles He identifies several hooks within the song including an accompaniment figure of stepwise descending triplets played on an electric piano an instrument the Beatles employed heavily in 1965 and 1966 13 For Perone the song s most noticeable hook is a melodic figure in its introduction which appears again later in the vocal part He contends that the vocal arrangement s complexity particularly the harmony which switches between answering the lead serving as its background or harmonizing at the end of phrases anticipates the vocal arrangements heard on music released over the next year including on the Beatles album Revolver and the Beach Boys Pet Sounds 13 nb 2 In his 1991 memoir Brian Wilson the principal songwriter of the Beach Boys stated that a John Sebastian song I had been listening to inspired the melody of his 1966 song God Only Knows 16 a statement the biographer Mark Dillon connects to the vocal layering on You Didn t Have to Be So Nice 17 nb 3 Recording and release editAmid their busy TV and live date schedule 21 the Lovin Spoonful recorded You Didn t Have to Be So Nice in November 1965 at Bell Sound Studios in New York City 2 The band s regular producer Erik Jacobsen produced the sessions Jerry Yester a friend of the band and a member of the Modern Folk Quartet arranged the vocals which features Sebastian on lead and Butler on backing 4 The finished recording features similar elements to the band s debut single Do You Believe in Magic including a drum fill introduction a shuffling tempo and Sebastian playing the autoharp 4 The band overdubbed several elements including chimes which had been leftover from another session 2 4 an addition the author Richie Unterberger compares to the productions of Phil Spector 11 Sebastian and Butler played a drum overdub together 4 which Sebastian later said was indebted to the style of the session drummer Hal Blaine 2 Zal Yanovsky added muted lead guitar work inspired by the pedal steel guitar playing of Pete Drake on Pleading 2 Work on You Didn t Have to Be So Nice was completed too late for it to be included on the Lovin Spoonful s debut album Do You Believe in Magic 4 which Kama Sutra Records issued in November 1965 22 The label instead issued the song that month as a non album single 23 The review panel for Billboard magazine predicted the song would equal the success of Do You Believe in Magic 24 which had peaked at number nine on the magazine s Hot 100 chart 25 You Didn t Have to Be So Nice entered the Hot 100 on November 27 and it remained on the chart for twelve weeks peaking in January 1966 at number ten 25 2 and it reached number two in Canada 26 The song was later included on the band s second album Daydream 27 released in March 1966 2 Like Do You Believe in Magic You Didn t Have to Be So Nice failed to chart in the U K 28 29 Pye International Records which held U K distribution rights to Kama Sutra product 30 issued the single there in January 1966 31 nb 4 The band remained generally unknown in the U K until April when their follow up single Daydream made to number two in the British charts in conjunction with a ten day promotional tour 35 36 Charts editWeekly chart performance Chart 1965 66 PeakpositionCanadian R P M Play Sheet 26 2U S Billboard Hot 100 37 10U S Cash Box Top 100 38 11U S Record World 100 Top Pops 39 9Notes edit The song was the first on which the pair collaborated 4 Their other joint credits include the 1966 songs Butchie s Tune Full Measure and Summer in the City the latter of which is also credited to Sebastian s brother Mark 5 Paul McCartney later acknowledged the Lovin Spoonful s third single Daydream as the inspiration for the Beatles Good Day Sunshine on Revolver 14 The musicologist Walter Everett suggests an additional inspiration may have been the drum triplets in the intro of You Didn t Have to Be So Nice which appear in the same place in the Beatles song 15 Wilson had stopped regularly touring with the Beach Boys in December 1964 18 but he saw the Lovin Spoonful perform at The Trip 19 a club on the Sunset Strip in Los Angeles where the band held a multi week residency in December 1965 20 The chart performance of Do You Believe in Magic was hindered by the release of a similar sounding cover by an English band the Pack 32 33 34 Another English band the Boston Crabs covered You Didn t Have to Be So Nice around the time the original was issued in the U K in January 1966 31 References edit Boone amp Moss 2014 p 89 a b c d e f g h Diken 2002 Boone amp Moss 2014 pp 89 90 a b c d e f Boone amp Moss 2014 p 90 Boone amp Moss 2014 pp 107 142 143 147 148 Nelson 1980 p 234 Jackson 2015 p 129 Helander 1999 p 236 Milward 2021 p 82 Unterberger Richie The Lovin Spoonful biography AllMusic Archived from the original on May 14 2023 Retrieved August 2 2023 a b c Unterberger Richie You Didn t Have to Be So Nice AllMusic Archived from the original on March 23 2019 Retrieved January 13 2024 Perone 2018 p 115 a b Perone 2018 p 118 Everett 1999 p 58 Everett 1999 p 328n106 Wilson amp Gold 1991 p 138 Dillon 2012 p 112 Badman 2004 p 75 Priore 2007 pp 45 49 Boone amp Moss 2014 pp 84 103 Boone amp Moss 2014 pp 104 105 Edmonds 2002 Jackson 2015 p xx Spotlight Singles Billboard November 13 1965 p 18 a b The Lovin Spoonful Chart History Hot 100 Billboard Archived from the original on November 21 2022 Retrieved March 11 2023 a b R P M Play Sheet January 31 1966 Library and Archives Canada July 17 2013 Retrieved April 17 2023 Boone amp Moss 2014 p 105 Boone amp Moss 2014 p 112 Lovin Spoonful Official Charts Company Archived from the original on August 16 2022 Retrieved March 19 2023 Anon October 2 1965 Kama Sutra Pye Contract Billboard p 10 via Google Books a b Farmer Bob January 31 1966 In the Groove Mark Leeman May Yet Be A Name Lincolnshire Echo p 4 via Newspapers com Anon October 30 1965 Record Review This Group Won t Need Magic Whitstable Times p 3 via Newspapers com Sales of Do You Believe in Magic are being affected by a near copy turned out by another group Disker September 25 1965 Off the Record Still More New Names Liverpool Echo p 4 via Newspapers com Anon October 19 1965 Paul Still No 1 in America Liverpool Echo p 13 via Newspapers com Boone amp Moss 2014 pp 112 114 120 Jones Alan May 2 1966 Sweet Music from the Lovin Spoonful Lincolnshire Echo p 4 via Newspapers com The Lovin Spoonful Chart History Hot 100 Billboard Archived from the original on May 21 2022 Retrieved April 17 2023 Cash Box Top 100 Week of January 22 1966 Cash Box January 22 1966 p 4 Record World 100 Top Pops Week of January 22 1966 Record World January 22 1966 p 17 Sources editBadman Keith 2004 The Beach Boys The Definitive Diary of America s Greatest Band on Stage and in the Studio San Francisco California Backbeat Books ISBN 978 0 87930 818 6 via the Internet Archive Boone Steve Moss Tony 2014 Hotter Than a Match Head My Life on the Run with The Lovin Spoonful Toronto ECW Press ISBN 978 1 77041 193 7 via the Internet Archive Diken Denis 2002 Daydream Liner notes The Lovin Spoonful Buddha BMG Heritage 74465 99731 2 Dillon Mark 2012 Fifty Sides of the Beach Boys The Songs That Tell Their Story Toronto ECW Press ISBN 978 1 77041 071 8 Edmonds Ben 2002 Do You Believe in Magic Liner notes The Lovin 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