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Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia

The Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia (Egyptian Arabic: ويكيبيديا مصرى  [wikiˈbedjæ ˈmɑsˤɾi, wikiˈpidjæ], ⟨wykybydya mṣry⟩) is the Egyptian Arabic version of Wikipedia, a free, open-content encyclopedia. This Wikipedia primarily acts as an alternative to the Arabic Wikipedia in favor of speakers of the Egyptian dialect.[2] Until 2020, it was the only Wikipedia written in a localised dialect of Arabic.[3][4] The second one is Moroccan Wikipedia, which was approved and created in July 2020.

Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia
Type of site
Internet encyclopedia project
Available inEgyptian Arabic (Articles are written mainly using the Arabic alphabet but a few are written using the Latin alphabet)[1]
OwnerWikimedia Foundation
URLarz.wikipedia.org
CommercialNo
RegistrationOptional
Launched24 November 2008; 14 years ago (2008-11-24)

This edition of Wikipedia has 1,616,239 articles and 199,883 registered users, including 7 administrators.

In December 2022, it was the third most visited language Wikipedia in Egypt with 2 million page views.[5] It ranked below the Arabic Wikipedia (43 million[6]) and the English Wikipedia (18 million[7]).

History

The Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia was proposed on 30 March 2008 and started as a developing project on 2 April 2008 in the Wikimedia Incubator.[3] A Wikipedian with the username Ghaly was the founder of the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia.[8] Dr. Ivan Panović, the author of "The Beginnings of Wikipedia Masry," described Ghaly as the spiritus movens of the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia.[9] Florence Devouard, the former president of the Wikimedia Foundation, stated that the foundation wanted Wikipedians to participate in their native languages.[2]

The proposal was accepted in July 2008,[3] and the announcement was made on the first day of Wikimania 2008 in Alexandria.[2][10] On 24 November 2008, the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia was officially launched,[3] and the Incubator articles were transferred to the new domain.

In 2009, the project had 4,000 articles, and Wikipedians participating came from within and outside Egypt.[2] By 2010 the Masry Wikipedia had almost 6,000 articles. That year, Panović wrote that "The number of active contributors is still rather small, yet their entries seem to be growing."[3] At the time many of the articles were very short articles, or "stubs".[3] Panović wrote that editors of the Masry Wikipedia had a tendency of creating new articles "just for the sake of increasing their number in hopes of expanding them later."[11]

As of September 2018, 60% of Wikipedia views in Egypt were directed at Arabic Wikipedia, 33% to English Wikipedia, 3% to Russian Wikipedia and 2% to Egyptian Arabic one.[12] About 35% of Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia views come from Egypt, about 11% from the United States and Saudi Arabia, and about 5% from Morocco, Algeria and Iraq.[13]

Origin

The origin of the proposal for the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia is based on the active interest of some Egyptian Wikipedians in contributing articles, especially on the Arabic Wikipedia,[14] as they constitute large group of the serious contributors in that Wikipedia.[2]

The idea behind the creation of the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia is to have an encyclopedia that is written in the language that Egyptians use in their everyday lives.[15] It is hoped this will be much easier for Egyptians to read and encourage more Egyptians to contribute to Wikipedia.[2]

Panović stated that "it is clear that Masry Wikipedians are the proponents of Egyptian territorial nationalism of a kind that sets itself apart from Arab or Islamic nationalism, seeking to carve out a specifically Egyptian identity" and he argued that therefore there was an "ease" in which the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedians "seem to embrace and promote some radical and even erroneous ideas about language."[16] Ghaly is a Christian, and Panović stated that "judging by their contributions and/or user pages" several of those involved are also Christian; Panović stated that minority groups tend to be more active in identity politics.[9]

Development

The International Organization for Standardization (ISO) classification of Egyptian Arabic under the language code arz is one of the arguments used by Egyptian Arabic Wikipedians for considering Masry an independent language.[17] The project uses the Cairene-style Egyptian Arabic.[18]

Ghaly, in the Wikimedia Foundation proposal page for the Egyptian Wikipedia, stated that his view of the Masry Wikipedia was that it would be "written in layperson terms and a mixture between Egyptian slang and simple Arabic", conveying "the information to speakers of Egyptian Arabic in a way similar to what Wikipedia Simple English is doing currently in comparison to Wikipedia English."[17] In response some Wikipedians criticized the proposal stating that it would be a Simple Arabic Wikipedia. Ghaly responded, arguing that he did not intend to actually start a simple Arabic Wikipedia.[17]

As of August 2019, the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia has over 20,000 articles and continues to grow. In addition, there is a project to develop an Egyptian Arabic Wiktionary, which is in the development phase as a project on Wikimedia incubator.[19] On 28 July 2020 Wikipedia Masry became the eighteenth Wikipedia to have more than one million articles.[20]

Reaction

The Egyptian variant of Wikipedia was controversially received; supporters pointed to the number of Wikipedias written in regional languages and argued that Egyptian Arabic was a widely spoken variant of Arabic, while opponents perceived the creation of the Egyptian-language Wikipedia as an attack on the Arabic Wikipedia and argued that Standard Arabic was the standard language for media, and the use of a regional-language version was anachronistic.[2][10][15][21]

The Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia has been subject to controversy from the start, causing arguments between supporters and opponents.[22] There have been lengthy discussions before the approval of the proposal. Also, there were discussions on other websites apart from meta.wikimedia.[23][24][25] This was also based on the differences in definition of a language and a dialect.[26] This is a result of diglossia in Egypt, where the written language is a different dialect than the language used daily,[27] which is not frequently written, although a certain amount of literature (particularly plays and poetry) exists written in the Egyptian dialect in Egypt.[28][29][30] As the project developed it was seen occasionally as a manifestation of triglossia of standard Arabic, vernaculars, and a western language in the Arabic section of the cyberspace[31]

Support

Amira Samir of the Al-Ahram Hebdo reported that some Egyptians on the internet did not have a problem with the project, arguing that the Wikimedia Foundation was an independent body and therefore the Egyptian government could not force the inclusion or exclusion of any particular dialect.[2]

Opposition

Discussions and criticism has occurred in some Facebook groups and several blogs and forums.[9] Samir stated that many online users believed that the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia was an attack on the Arabic language.[2] The primary criticism of the Wikipedia Masry involves the belief that a "degradation" of Arabic occurred when someone writes in a dialect. Panović argues that the criticism is "grounded in folk belief about language" and therefore it is a "futile task" to examine the arguments from a linguistic point of view.[9] According to Panović, many of the critics took note that many involved with the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia were Christian and that they perceived the project to be antagonistic against the Arab identity and Islam.[9] Panović wrote that "It almost goes without saying there are also those who see in Wikipedia Masry yet another Jewish plot."[9] Others see it as an attempt to divide the Arabs by emphasizing dialects.[4] According to Samir, some critics argued that the Egyptian Arabic language has a lack of rules and variations of meanings in words, and so it is an unsuitable language for an encyclopedia.[2]

Opposition to this version of Wikipedia has been strong during the proposal stage; opposition continued after the project officially launched[32][33] including campaigns on Facebook.[citation needed] Some of these campaigns encouraged users to vandalize the Egyptian Wikipedia. The main point which the opposition focuses on is that Egyptian Arabic is not a language,[34][citation needed] suggesting that the effort should be directed to development of Arabic Wikipedia.[35]

See also

Notes

  1. ^ Wikipedia Masry rules of writing
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h i j Samir, Amira (December 2009). [Is Masri contrary to Arabic?] (in French). Al-Ahram Hebdo. Archived from the original on 31 January 2014. Retrieved 13 March 2010. () "explique Florence Devouard, ex-présidente de la fondation Wikipedia. Et d’ajouter : " [...] Il est question pour nous de choisir dix langues natales, parce qu’on veut vraiment que les gens participent dans leur langue maternelle "." and "Certains internautes égyptiens ou non-ne voient donc pas de problèmes à avoir une Wikipedia en masri,[...]" and "Mais pour d’autres, c’est une catastrophe et une affaire politique. Pour eux, c’est la guerre "en ligne" contre la langue arabe." and "D’autres sont plus logiques. Ils s’opposent à la rédaction d’une encyclopédie dans une langue maternelle parce qu’elle n’a pas de règles, ce qui veut dire qu’un mot peut avoir plusieurs orthographes. Et puis un même mot peut avoir plusieurs sens différents d’un endroit à l’autre et d’une génération à l’autre."
  3. ^ a b c d e f Panović, p. 94.
  4. ^ a b A.V. "The rise and fall of Egyptian Arabic". The Economist. Retrieved 1 February 2018.
  5. ^ "Wikistats - Statistics For Wikimedia Projects". stats.wikimedia.org. Retrieved 1 January 2023.
  6. ^ "Wikistats - Statistics For Wikimedia Projects". stats.wikimedia.org. Retrieved 1 January 2023.
  7. ^ "Wikistats - Statistics For Wikimedia Projects". stats.wikimedia.org. Retrieved 1 January 2023.
  8. ^ Panović, p. 101.
  9. ^ a b c d e f Panović, p. 95.
  10. ^ a b (In French) Lesdebate, Syndrome identitaire, Le masri langue Wikipedienne 4 March 2012 at the Wayback Machine
  11. ^ Panović, p. 94-95.
  12. ^ "Wikimedia Traffic Analysis Report - Wikipedia Page Views Per Country - Breakdown". stats.wikimedia.org. 25 October 2018. Retrieved 1 January 2023.
  13. ^ "Wikimedia Traffic Analysis Report - Page Views Per Wikipedia Language - Breakdown". stats.wikimedia.org. 25 October 2018. Retrieved 1 January 2023.
  14. ^ Cohen, Noam (21 July 2008). "In Egypt, Wikipedia is more than hobby". International Herald Tribune. Retrieved 14 December 2008. ()
  15. ^ a b Mennasat 14 January 2014 at the Wayback Machine
  16. ^ Panović, p. 99.
  17. ^ a b c Panović, p. 96.
  18. ^ Panović, p. 97.
  19. ^ ARZ wiktionary project
  20. ^ Meta News July 2020
  21. ^ Middle Esat online 14 January 2014 at the Wayback Machine
  22. ^ جدل بين مدونين مصريين حول ويكيبيديا المصرية [Debate between the Egyptian bloggers on the Egyptian Wikipedia] (in Arabic). Shorouk News. 24 January 2009. from the original on 3 March 2012. Retrieved 12 March 2010.
  23. ^ intelligentdesigns.net 3 October 2007 at the Wayback Machine
  24. ^ globalvoices.org: Egypt: Egyptian Dialect Wikipedia 13 January 2014 at the Wayback Machine
  25. ^ egyptsguy.blogspot.com
  26. ^ "Approval of a Wikipedia in Egyptian Arabic (Masry) ignites debate over the difference between a language and a dialect". Page F30. 11 June 2009. from the original on 27 February 2012. Retrieved 13 March 2010.
  27. ^ Abed, Shukri B. (2006). Focus on Contemporary Arabic (Conversations with Native Speakers). Yale University Press. ISBN 978-0-300-10948-1.
  28. ^ Language helpers 4 July 2012 at the Wayback Machine
  29. ^ الوكالة العربية للأخبار العلميةarabsn.net
  30. ^ Almubasher.net 13 March 2012 at the Wayback Machine
  31. ^ The Arabic Language: A Latin of Modernity?
  32. ^ Moheet.com 7 January 2014 at the Wayback Machine
  33. ^ المصريون 23 July 2012 at the Wayback Machine
  34. ^ pagesperso.univ-brest.fr: Why you should boycott the Egyptian Wikipedia[dead link]
  35. ^ omraneya.net 22 April 2012 at the Wayback Machine

References

  • Panović, Ivan (University of Oxford Faculty of Oriental Studies). "The Beginnings of Wikipedia Masry". al-Logha Series of Papers in Linguistics, 2010. 8: 8, 93–127.

External links

  • (in Egyptian Arabic) Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia
  • (in Egyptian Arabic) Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia mobile version
  • Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia at the incubator
  • Proposal for Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia at Meta
  • The Incubation of the Egyptian Arabic Wiktionary

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Not to be confused with Arabic Wikipedia This article needs additional citations for verification Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources Unsourced material may be challenged and removed Find sources Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia news newspapers books scholar JSTOR March 2010 Learn how and when to remove this template message The Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia Egyptian Arabic ويكيبيديا مصرى wikiˈbedjae ˈmɑsˤɾi wikiˈpidjae wykybydya mṣry is the Egyptian Arabic version of Wikipedia a free open content encyclopedia This Wikipedia primarily acts as an alternative to the Arabic Wikipedia in favor of speakers of the Egyptian dialect 2 Until 2020 it was the only Wikipedia written in a localised dialect of Arabic 3 4 The second one is Moroccan Wikipedia which was approved and created in July 2020 Egyptian Arabic WikipediaType of siteInternet encyclopedia projectAvailable inEgyptian Arabic Articles are written mainly using the Arabic alphabet but a few are written using the Latin alphabet 1 OwnerWikimedia FoundationURLarz wbr wikipedia wbr orgCommercialNoRegistrationOptionalLaunched24 November 2008 14 years ago 2008 11 24 This edition of Wikipedia has 1 616 239 articles and 199 883 registered users including 7 administrators In December 2022 it was the third most visited language Wikipedia in Egypt with 2 million page views 5 It ranked below the Arabic Wikipedia 43 million 6 and the English Wikipedia 18 million 7 Contents 1 History 2 Origin 3 Development 4 Reaction 4 1 Support 4 2 Opposition 5 See also 6 Notes 7 References 8 External linksHistory EditThe Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia was proposed on 30 March 2008 and started as a developing project on 2 April 2008 in the Wikimedia Incubator 3 A Wikipedian with the username Ghaly was the founder of the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia 8 Dr Ivan Panovic the author of The Beginnings of Wikipedia Masry described Ghaly as the spiritus movens of the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia 9 Florence Devouard the former president of the Wikimedia Foundation stated that the foundation wanted Wikipedians to participate in their native languages 2 The proposal was accepted in July 2008 3 and the announcement was made on the first day of Wikimania 2008 in Alexandria 2 10 On 24 November 2008 the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia was officially launched 3 and the Incubator articles were transferred to the new domain In 2009 the project had 4 000 articles and Wikipedians participating came from within and outside Egypt 2 By 2010 the Masry Wikipedia had almost 6 000 articles That year Panovic wrote that The number of active contributors is still rather small yet their entries seem to be growing 3 At the time many of the articles were very short articles or stubs 3 Panovic wrote that editors of the Masry Wikipedia had a tendency of creating new articles just for the sake of increasing their number in hopes of expanding them later 11 As of September 2018 60 of Wikipedia views in Egypt were directed at Arabic Wikipedia 33 to English Wikipedia 3 to Russian Wikipedia and 2 to Egyptian Arabic one 12 About 35 of Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia views come from Egypt about 11 from the United States and Saudi Arabia and about 5 from Morocco Algeria and Iraq 13 Origin EditThe origin of the proposal for the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia is based on the active interest of some Egyptian Wikipedians in contributing articles especially on the Arabic Wikipedia 14 as they constitute large group of the serious contributors in that Wikipedia 2 The idea behind the creation of the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia is to have an encyclopedia that is written in the language that Egyptians use in their everyday lives 15 It is hoped this will be much easier for Egyptians to read and encourage more Egyptians to contribute to Wikipedia 2 Panovic stated that it is clear that Masry Wikipedians are the proponents of Egyptian territorial nationalism of a kind that sets itself apart from Arab or Islamic nationalism seeking to carve out a specifically Egyptian identity and he argued that therefore there was an ease in which the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedians seem to embrace and promote some radical and even erroneous ideas about language 16 Ghaly is a Christian and Panovic stated that judging by their contributions and or user pages several of those involved are also Christian Panovic stated that minority groups tend to be more active in identity politics 9 Development EditThe International Organization for Standardization ISO classification of Egyptian Arabic under the language code arz is one of the arguments used by Egyptian Arabic Wikipedians for considering Masry an independent language 17 The project uses the Cairene style Egyptian Arabic 18 Ghaly in the Wikimedia Foundation proposal page for the Egyptian Wikipedia stated that his view of the Masry Wikipedia was that it would be written in layperson terms and a mixture between Egyptian slang and simple Arabic conveying the information to speakers of Egyptian Arabic in a way similar to what Wikipedia Simple English is doing currently in comparison to Wikipedia English 17 In response some Wikipedians criticized the proposal stating that it would be a Simple Arabic Wikipedia Ghaly responded arguing that he did not intend to actually start a simple Arabic Wikipedia 17 As of August 2019 update the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia has over 20 000 articles and continues to grow In addition there is a project to develop an Egyptian Arabic Wiktionary which is in the development phase as a project on Wikimedia incubator 19 On 28 July 2020 Wikipedia Masry became the eighteenth Wikipedia to have more than one million articles 20 Reaction EditThe Egyptian variant of Wikipedia was controversially received supporters pointed to the number of Wikipedias written in regional languages and argued that Egyptian Arabic was a widely spoken variant of Arabic while opponents perceived the creation of the Egyptian language Wikipedia as an attack on the Arabic Wikipedia and argued that Standard Arabic was the standard language for media and the use of a regional language version was anachronistic 2 10 15 21 The Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia has been subject to controversy from the start causing arguments between supporters and opponents 22 There have been lengthy discussions before the approval of the proposal Also there were discussions on other websites apart from meta wikimedia 23 24 25 This was also based on the differences in definition of a language and a dialect 26 This is a result of diglossia in Egypt where the written language is a different dialect than the language used daily 27 which is not frequently written although a certain amount of literature particularly plays and poetry exists written in the Egyptian dialect in Egypt 28 29 30 As the project developed it was seen occasionally as a manifestation of triglossia of standard Arabic vernaculars and a western language in the Arabic section of the cyberspace 31 Support Edit Amira Samir of the Al Ahram Hebdo reported that some Egyptians on the internet did not have a problem with the project arguing that the Wikimedia Foundation was an independent body and therefore the Egyptian government could not force the inclusion or exclusion of any particular dialect 2 Opposition Edit Discussions and criticism has occurred in some Facebook groups and several blogs and forums 9 Samir stated that many online users believed that the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia was an attack on the Arabic language 2 The primary criticism of the Wikipedia Masry involves the belief that a degradation of Arabic occurred when someone writes in a dialect Panovic argues that the criticism is grounded in folk belief about language and therefore it is a futile task to examine the arguments from a linguistic point of view 9 According to Panovic many of the critics took note that many involved with the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia were Christian and that they perceived the project to be antagonistic against the Arab identity and Islam 9 Panovic wrote that It almost goes without saying there are also those who see in Wikipedia Masry yet another Jewish plot 9 Others see it as an attempt to divide the Arabs by emphasizing dialects 4 According to Samir some critics argued that the Egyptian Arabic language has a lack of rules and variations of meanings in words and so it is an unsuitable language for an encyclopedia 2 Opposition to this version of Wikipedia has been strong during the proposal stage opposition continued after the project officially launched 32 33 including campaigns on Facebook citation needed Some of these campaigns encouraged users to vandalize the Egyptian Wikipedia The main point which the opposition focuses on is that Egyptian Arabic is not a language 34 citation needed suggesting that the effort should be directed to development of Arabic Wikipedia 35 See also Edit Egypt portal Languages portalEgyptian Arabic Arabic WikipediaNotes Edit Wikipedia Masry rules of writing a b c d e f g h i j Samir Amira December 2009 Le masri est il contre l arabe Is Masri contrary to Arabic in French Al Ahram Hebdo Archived from the original on 31 January 2014 Retrieved 13 March 2010 explique Florence Devouard ex presidente de la fondation Wikipedia Et d ajouter Il est question pour nous de choisir dix langues natales parce qu on veut vraiment que les gens participent dans leur langue maternelle and Certains internautes egyptiens ou non ne voient donc pas de problemes a avoir une Wikipedia en masri and Mais pour d autres c est une catastrophe et une affaire politique Pour eux c est la guerre en ligne contre la langue arabe and D autres sont plus logiques Ils s opposent a la redaction d une encyclopedie dans une langue maternelle parce qu elle n a pas de regles ce qui veut dire qu un mot peut avoir plusieurs orthographes Et puis un meme mot peut avoir plusieurs sens differents d un endroit a l autre et d une generation a l autre a b c d e f Panovic p 94 a b A V The rise and fall of Egyptian Arabic The Economist Retrieved 1 February 2018 Wikistats Statistics For Wikimedia Projects stats wikimedia org Retrieved 1 January 2023 Wikistats Statistics For Wikimedia Projects stats wikimedia org Retrieved 1 January 2023 Wikistats Statistics For Wikimedia Projects stats wikimedia org Retrieved 1 January 2023 Panovic p 101 a b c d e f Panovic p 95 a b In French Lesdebate Syndrome identitaire Le masri langue Wikipedienne Archived 4 March 2012 at the Wayback Machine Panovic p 94 95 Wikimedia Traffic Analysis Report Wikipedia Page Views Per Country Breakdown stats wikimedia org 25 October 2018 Retrieved 1 January 2023 Wikimedia Traffic Analysis Report Page Views Per Wikipedia Language Breakdown stats wikimedia org 25 October 2018 Retrieved 1 January 2023 Cohen Noam 21 July 2008 In Egypt Wikipedia is more than hobby International Herald Tribune Retrieved 14 December 2008 Archive a b Mennasat Archived 14 January 2014 at the Wayback Machine Panovic p 99 a b c Panovic p 96 Panovic p 97 ARZ wiktionary project Meta News July 2020 Middle Esat online Archived 14 January 2014 at the Wayback Machine جدل بين مدونين مصريين حول ويكيبيديا المصرية Debate between the Egyptian bloggers on the Egyptian Wikipedia in Arabic Shorouk News 24 January 2009 Archived from the original on 3 March 2012 Retrieved 12 March 2010 intelligentdesigns net Archived 3 October 2007 at the Wayback Machine globalvoices org Egypt Egyptian Dialect Wikipedia Archived 13 January 2014 at the Wayback Machine egyptsguy blogspot com Approval of a Wikipedia in Egyptian Arabic Masry ignites debate over the difference between a language and a dialect Page F30 11 June 2009 Archived from the original on 27 February 2012 Retrieved 13 March 2010 Abed Shukri B 2006 Focus on Contemporary Arabic Conversations with Native Speakers Yale University Press ISBN 978 0 300 10948 1 Language helpers Archived 4 July 2012 at the Wayback Machine الوكالة العربية للأخبار العلميةarabsn net Almubasher net Archived 13 March 2012 at the Wayback Machine The Arabic Language A Latin of Modernity Moheet com Archived 7 January 2014 at the Wayback Machine المصريون Archived 23 July 2012 at the Wayback Machine pagesperso univ brest fr Why you should boycott the Egyptian Wikipedia dead link omraneya net Archived 22 April 2012 at the Wayback MachineReferences EditPanovic Ivan University of Oxford Faculty of Oriental Studies The Beginnings of Wikipedia Masry al Logha Series of Papers in Linguistics 2010 8 8 93 127 External links Edit Egyptian Arabic edition of Wikipedia the free encyclopedia Wikimedia Commons has media related to Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia in Egyptian Arabic Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia in Egyptian Arabic Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia mobile version Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia at the incubator Proposal for Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia at Meta The Incubation of the Egyptian Arabic Wiktionary Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia amp oldid 1130927043, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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