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Answers in Genesis

Answers in Genesis (AiG) is an American fundamentalist Christian apologetics parachurch organization. It advocates Young Earth creationism on the basis of its literal, historical-grammatical interpretation of the Book of Genesis and the Bible as a whole. Out of belief in biblical inerrancy, it rejects the results of scientific investigations that contradict their view of the Genesis creation narrative and instead supports pseudoscientific creation science. The organization sees evolution as incompatible with the Bible and believes anything other than the young Earth view is a compromise on the principle of biblical inerrancy.

Answers in Genesis
Formation1994; 30 years ago (1994)
TypeFundamentalist Christian apologetics organization
Legal statusNonprofit
Purpose
HeadquartersPetersburg, Kentucky, U.S.
President
Ken Ham
Revenue
US$34,739,452 (2018)[1]
ExpensesUS$26,776,172 (2018)[1]
Websiteanswersingenesis.org

AiG began as the Creation Science Foundation in 1980, following the merger of two Australian creationist groups. Its name changed to Answers in Genesis in 1994, when Ken Ham founded its United States branch. In 2006, the branches in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and South Africa split from the US and UK to form Creation Ministries International. In 2007, AiG opened the Creation Museum, a facility that promotes young-Earth creationism, and in 2016, the organization opened the Ark Encounter, a Noah's Ark-themed amusement park. AiG also publishes websites, magazines, journals, and a streaming service, and its employees have published books.

Organization edit

Answers in Genesis resulted from the merging of two Australian creationist organizations in 1980, one led by John Mackay and Ken Ham (Creation Science Supplies and Creation Science Educational Media Services) and the other by Carl Wieland (Creation Science Association). The organization later became known as Answers in Genesis. It is based in Petersburg, Kentucky, and has international offices in Australia, Canada, Peru, and the United Kingdom.[2] Following turmoil in 2005,[3] the AiG network split in 2006. The US and UK branches retained the AiG name and control of the AiG website under Ham's leadership. The Australian, Canadian, New Zealand, and South African branches rebranded themselves as Creation Ministries International (CMI). In 2007, CMI filed suit against AiG-USA alleging a variety of wrongdoings, including publicly defaming their organization.[4] In April 2009, the ministries reached a settlement and ended their dispute.[5]

In June 2006, Answers in Genesis launched the Answers magazine in the United States and United Kingdom, followed by the Answers Research Journal in 2008, which was widely criticized in the media[6][7] and scientific circles.[8] Also in 2006, the National Religious Broadcasters awarded Answers in Genesis their Best Ministry Website award.[9] In May 2007, AiG launched the Creation Museum in the United States. The museum received criticism from the National Center for Science Education and petitions of protest from the scientific community.[10]

Views and activities edit

From the outset, Ken Ham did not share the interest of other groups promoting creation science in aiming to produce evidence supporting young Earth creationism,[11] although Answers in Genesis still maintain that "creation science is real science".[12] Instead, Answers in Genesis focuses on presenting evangelicalism as an all-out battle of their biblical worldview against a perceived naturalistic scientific worldview.[13] Ham's message has had three central points:

  • that teaching of evolution is an evil causing damage to society
  • that the first eleven chapters of the Book of Genesis give a precise description of the process of creation of the universe and provide direct instruction on the organization of society
  • that proper Christians must engage in a total conflict battling against atheistic humanism

Answers in Genesis messages promote central young-Earth creationist doctrines, including the concepts of literal Creation of the Earth in six 24-hour days and effects of a global flood. Still, they focus mainly on accepting the authority of their particular literal reading of the Bible as a precondition for eternity in heaven. They present this as choosing one's personal ultimate authority for truth, with God's Word and human reason being the two possible options, and those choosing the latter over the former liable to perishment.[11] They hence introduce the concept of "biblical reasoning", where one is "never to attempt to reason in opposition to the Word of God", and thus claim that this biblical reasoning and biblical faith "work very well together".[14]

The Answers in Genesis organization rejects key scientific facts and theories as established by archeology, cosmology, geology, paleontology, and evolutionary biology and argues that the universe, the Earth and life originated about 6,000 years ago.[15][16][17] (Creationism beliefs reject natural causes and events in scientific explanations of nature and of the origin of the universe in favor of the supernatural, and the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that creationism is religion.[18])

A book published by one of AiG's employees in 2006 accused Hollywood of using subtle tactics to slip "evolutionary content" into SpongeBob SquarePants, Lilo & Stitch and Finding Nemo, affirming that "As Christians we need to reflect the Bible's standards and not Hollywood's perverted version of reality."[19]

In 2020, AiG launched its own streaming service, Answers.tv, intended as an alternative to Netflix, Disney+, and other streaming platforms.[20]

AiG has objected to the James Webb Space Telescope, saying "Sadly, many in this particular camp (sometimes ignorantly) have actually compromised Scripture by accepting the secular ideas being pushed by the JWST media at NASA (i.e., the big bang and evolution), thus rejecting the plain (biblical) reading of Genesis 1 and instead reinterpreting the days of creation to long ages. This is an unbiblical way of thinking that essentially elevates man's fallible ideas as the ultimate standard (i.e., humanism) over the infallible Word of God".[21]

Creation Museum edit

 
The Creation Museum

AiG's Creation Museum is a museum displaying a Young-Earth creationist worldview and pseudoarchaeology. The facility has received much criticism from the scientific and religious communities, as well as from cultural commentators.[22][23] The Creation Museum opened May 27, 2007, at a cost of $27 million raised entirely by private donations. The displays were created by Patrick Marsh, known for work on Universal Studios Florida attractions for King Kong and Jaws.[24]

A. A. Gill, a British writer and critic, described the museum as "battling science and reason since 2007", writing: "This place doesn't just take on evolution—it squares off with geology, anthropology, paleontology, history, chemistry, astronomy, zoology, biology, and good taste. It directly and boldly contradicts most -onomies and all -ologies, including most theology."[25]

In 2012 a report noted that "public fascination" with the Creation Museum was "fading".[26] In November 2012 AiG reported that attendance for the year ended June 30 came to 254,074, which represented a 10 percent drop from the previous year and the attraction's "fourth straight year of declining attendance and its lowest annual attendance yet."[26] By mid-2015, 2.4 million people had visited the museum (about 340,000 visitors over seven years),[27] and in 2017, AiG reported that in the year since its other attraction, the Ark Encounter, opened, the Creation Museum saw over 800,000 visitors, nearly triple the annual average of 300,000 visitors.[28]

Ark Encounter edit

 
Noah's Ark at Ark Encounter

Answers in Genesis opened Ark Encounter, a theme-park, in Grant County, Kentucky on July 7, 2016.[29] The centerpiece of the park is a full-scale model of Noah's Ark at 510 feet (160 m) long and 81 feet (25 m) high. After a visit to Ark Encounter,[30] Bill Nye, who had previously debated Ham, described his experience as "much more troubling or disturbing than [he] thought it would be" and stated that "on the Ark's third deck, every single science exhibit is absolutely wrong".[31] In December 2016, for the holiday season, AiG lit the Ark with rainbow colors, aiming to "reclaim the symbol from the gay rights movement" and to remind viewers of the Noahic covenant.[32]

By late October 2016, over 400,000 people had visited the attraction.[33] This contrasts a state study that projected the attraction would receive 325,000 to under 500,000 visitors in the first year.[34][35] AiG reported that the Ark Encounter in its first year of operation attracted over 1 million visitors and aggregated 1.5 million total visitors for both the Ark and the Creation Museum.[36]

Workforce edit

In 2007 about 160 people including a chaplain worked at the Creation Museum (a division of AiG, so these were AiG employees) and another 140 people worked at the attached AiG headquarters.[37][38][39] Each permanent employee of AiG including people who work at the museum must sign a statement of faith "in order to preserve the function and integrity of the ministry", indicating that he or she believes in young Earth creationism and the other teachings of Answers in Genesis. These include "Scripture teaches a recent origin for man and the whole creation", "the only legitimate marriage is the joining of one man and one woman", "the great Flood of Genesis was an actual historic event" and "no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record".[40] When applying for work a written statement of one's beliefs is required along with résumé and references.[41][42] In 2007, The Kentucky Post reported that the Creation Museum employed between 10 and 20 security guards armed with .40 caliber Glock handguns and three certified law enforcement canines.[43]

Creationist geologist Andrew A. Snelling started working with AiG in 2007[44] as its director of research.[45]

Reception edit

Creation science, which is supported by AiG, is a pseudoscience that "lacks the central defining characteristic of all modern scientific theories".[46][47][48] Scientific and scholarly organizations, including the National Academy of Sciences, Paleontological Society, Geological Society of America, Australian Academy of Science, and the Royal Society of Canada have issued statements against the teaching of creationism.[49] The National Center for Science Education, a science advocacy group, criticize AiG's promotion of non-science.[50][51][52] In direct response to AiG, No Answers in Genesis is a website maintained by members of the Australian Skeptics and retired civil servant John Stear for the purpose of rebutting claims made by AiG.[53]

Astronomer Hugh Ross's organization Reasons To Believe, a progressive creationist organization, is a critic of Answers in Genesis.[54] The BioLogos Foundation, which promotes evolutionary creationism, has stated that the views of Answers in Genesis have "force[d] many thoughtful Christians to lose their faith," while The Biologos Foundation "protect[s the Christian] faith."[55] In 2011 skeptic Brian Dunning listed it as #5 on his "Top 10 Worst Anti-Science Websites" list.[56]

Richard Dawkins interview edit

In 1998, Answers in Genesis filmed an interview with Richard Dawkins, a prominent evolutionary biologist at Oxford University, resulting in a controversial video that AiG posted on its website.[57] Dawkins addressed it in the essay: "The 'Information Challenge'", published in A Devil's Chaplain in 2003. The "suspiciously amateurish" interview included, according to Dawkins, "the kind of question only a creationist would ask in that way" (namely, to "give an example of a genetic mutation or an evolutionary process which can be seen to increase the information in the genome"). Realizing that he had been duped, Dawkins, at his admission, was angry at the thought and initially refused to answer the question but relented and continued the interview. Dawkins wrote: "My generosity was rewarded in a fashion that anyone familiar with fundamentalist tactics might have predicted. When I eventually saw the film a year later, I found that it had been edited to give the false impression that I was incapable of answering the question about information content. In fairness, this may not have been quite as intentionally deceitful as it sounds. You have to understand that these people really believe that their question cannot be answered!"[58]

The Australian Skeptics wrote that AIG edited the film to give the appearance that Dawkins was unable to "give an example of a genetic mutation or an evolutionary process which can be seen to increase the information in the genome" and that a segment that shows him pausing for 11 seconds was a film of him considering whether to expel the interviewer from the room for not revealing her creationist sympathies at the outset. Dawkins reported to the Australian Skeptics that the interviewer shown in the finished film was not the same person who had originally asked the questions. Dawkins and Barry Williams also said that AIG had subsequently changed the question to make it look like Dawkins, who answered the original question put to him, was unable to answer.[59]

Anti-atheism billboards edit

In the spring of 2009, Answers in Genesis posted a billboard in Texas with a young boy aiming a gun towards the viewer with the words, "If God doesn't matter to him, do you?" The same image was used in a TV ad.[60] In 2014, the organization purchased space in Times Square to run a 15-second video advertisement addressed "To all of our intolerant liberal friends". According to AiG, the goal of the billboard was to "challenge the secularists who are increasingly intolerant of the Christian message". The Christian Relevant Magazine described the ad as "passive-aggressive" and "weirdly combative".[61]

Great Homeschool Conventions edit

In March 2011, the Board of Great Homeschool Conventions, Inc. (a young Earth Christian group) voted to disinvite Ken Ham and AiG from future conventions due to Ham's words about other Christians making "unnecessary, ungodly, and mean-spirited statements that are divisive at best and defamatory at worst". The controversy stemmed from Ham's commentary on the position expressed by Peter Enns, of The BioLogos Foundation, who advocated a symbolic rather than a literal interpretation of the fall of Adam and Eve. Writing on his blog, Ham accused Enns of espousing "outright liberal theology that totally undermines the authority of the Word of God", which led to his invitation being revoked.[62]

Legal action by Creation Ministries Int'l edit

On May 31, 2007, Creation Ministries International filed a lawsuit in Supreme Court of Queensland against Ken Ham and Answers in Genesis seeking damages and accusing him of "unbiblical/unethical/unlawful behaviour" in his dealings with the Australian organization.[4] Before the split, the Australian group had been producing periodicals, Creation magazine and Journal of Creation, which were then distributed in other countries by local groups. The Australian group had no access to the list of subscribers in the US. AiG discontinued the distribution arrangement, and produced a new magazine of their own, called Answers, and represented that to subscribers as a replacement.[63] Creation Ministries International claimed $252,000 (US) in damages for lost revenue by misleading and deceptive conduct in relating to lost subscriptions.[64][65]

An editorial analysis of the situation, including reference to estranged co-founder John Mackay's allegations in 1986 of necrophilia and witchcraft against Ken Ham's personal secretary is offered in an account in the Reports of the National Center for Science Education.[66] In February 2009, the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit ordered Australian-based Creation Ministries International into arbitration with Answers in Genesis over copyrights and control of affiliates in other countries.[67] In April 2009, the ministries reached a settlement and ended their dispute.[68]

See also edit

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AiG redirects here For the insurance company see AIG For other uses see AIG disambiguation Answers in Genesis AiG is an American fundamentalist Christian apologetics parachurch organization It advocates Young Earth creationism on the basis of its literal historical grammatical interpretation of the Book of Genesis and the Bible as a whole Out of belief in biblical inerrancy it rejects the results of scientific investigations that contradict their view of the Genesis creation narrative and instead supports pseudoscientific creation science The organization sees evolution as incompatible with the Bible and believes anything other than the young Earth view is a compromise on the principle of biblical inerrancy Answers in GenesisFormation1994 30 years ago 1994 TypeFundamentalist Christian apologetics organizationLegal statusNonprofitPurposeYoung Earth creationismChristian apologeticsChristian fundamentalismBiblical inerrancyEvangelicalismHeadquartersPetersburg Kentucky U S PresidentKen HamRevenueUS 34 739 452 2018 1 ExpensesUS 26 776 172 2018 1 Websiteanswersingenesis wbr org AiG began as the Creation Science Foundation in 1980 following the merger of two Australian creationist groups Its name changed to Answers in Genesis in 1994 when Ken Ham founded its United States branch In 2006 the branches in Australia Canada New Zealand and South Africa split from the US and UK to form Creation Ministries International In 2007 AiG opened the Creation Museum a facility that promotes young Earth creationism and in 2016 the organization opened the Ark Encounter a Noah s Ark themed amusement park AiG also publishes websites magazines journals and a streaming service and its employees have published books Contents 1 Organization 2 Views and activities 2 1 Creation Museum 2 2 Ark Encounter 3 Workforce 4 Reception 4 1 Richard Dawkins interview 4 2 Anti atheism billboards 4 3 Great Homeschool Conventions 4 4 Legal action by Creation Ministries Int l 5 See also 6 Notes 7 References 8 External linksOrganization editAnswers in Genesis resulted from the merging of two Australian creationist organizations in 1980 one led by John Mackay and Ken Ham Creation Science Supplies and Creation Science Educational Media Services and the other by Carl Wieland Creation Science Association The organization later became known as Answers in Genesis It is based in Petersburg Kentucky and has international offices in Australia Canada Peru and the United Kingdom 2 Following turmoil in 2005 3 the AiG network split in 2006 The US and UK branches retained the AiG name and control of the AiG website under Ham s leadership The Australian Canadian New Zealand and South African branches rebranded themselves as Creation Ministries International CMI In 2007 CMI filed suit against AiG USA alleging a variety of wrongdoings including publicly defaming their organization 4 In April 2009 the ministries reached a settlement and ended their dispute 5 In June 2006 Answers in Genesis launched the Answers magazine in the United States and United Kingdom followed by the Answers Research Journal in 2008 which was widely criticized in the media 6 7 and scientific circles 8 Also in 2006 the National Religious Broadcasters awarded Answers in Genesis their Best Ministry Website award 9 In May 2007 AiG launched the Creation Museum in the United States The museum received criticism from the National Center for Science Education and petitions of protest from the scientific community 10 Views and activities editFrom the outset Ken Ham did not share the interest of other groups promoting creation science in aiming to produce evidence supporting young Earth creationism 11 although Answers in Genesis still maintain that creation science is real science 12 Instead Answers in Genesis focuses on presenting evangelicalism as an all out battle of their biblical worldview against a perceived naturalistic scientific worldview 13 Ham s message has had three central points that teaching of evolution is an evil causing damage to society that the first eleven chapters of the Book of Genesis give a precise description of the process of creation of the universe and provide direct instruction on the organization of society that proper Christians must engage in a total conflict battling against atheistic humanism Answers in Genesis messages promote central young Earth creationist doctrines including the concepts of literal Creation of the Earth in six 24 hour days and effects of a global flood Still they focus mainly on accepting the authority of their particular literal reading of the Bible as a precondition for eternity in heaven They present this as choosing one s personal ultimate authority for truth with God s Word and human reason being the two possible options and those choosing the latter over the former liable to perishment 11 They hence introduce the concept of biblical reasoning where one is never to attempt to reason in opposition to the Word of God and thus claim that this biblical reasoning and biblical faith work very well together 14 The Answers in Genesis organization rejects key scientific facts and theories as established by archeology cosmology geology paleontology and evolutionary biology and argues that the universe the Earth and life originated about 6 000 years ago 15 16 17 Creationism beliefs reject natural causes and events in scientific explanations of nature and of the origin of the universe in favor of the supernatural and the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that creationism is religion 18 A book published by one of AiG s employees in 2006 accused Hollywood of using subtle tactics to slip evolutionary content into SpongeBob SquarePants Lilo amp Stitch and Finding Nemo affirming that As Christians we need to reflect the Bible s standards and not Hollywood s perverted version of reality 19 In 2020 AiG launched its own streaming service Answers tv intended as an alternative to Netflix Disney and other streaming platforms 20 AiG has objected to the James Webb Space Telescope saying Sadly many in this particular camp sometimes ignorantly have actually compromised Scripture by accepting the secular ideas being pushed by the JWST media at NASA i e the big bang and evolution thus rejecting the plain biblical reading of Genesis 1 and instead reinterpreting the days of creation to long ages This is an unbiblical way of thinking that essentially elevates man s fallible ideas as the ultimate standard i e humanism over the infallible Word of God 21 Creation Museum edit Main article Creation Museum nbsp The Creation Museum AiG s Creation Museum is a museum displaying a Young Earth creationist worldview and pseudoarchaeology The facility has received much criticism from the scientific and religious communities as well as from cultural commentators 22 23 The Creation Museum opened May 27 2007 at a cost of 27 million raised entirely by private donations The displays were created by Patrick Marsh known for work on Universal Studios Florida attractions for King Kong and Jaws 24 A A Gill a British writer and critic described the museum as battling science and reason since 2007 writing This place doesn t just take on evolution it squares off with geology anthropology paleontology history chemistry astronomy zoology biology and good taste It directly and boldly contradicts most onomies and all ologies including most theology 25 In 2012 a report noted that public fascination with the Creation Museum was fading 26 In November 2012 AiG reported that attendance for the year ended June 30 came to 254 074 which represented a 10 percent drop from the previous year and the attraction s fourth straight year of declining attendance and its lowest annual attendance yet 26 By mid 2015 2 4 million people had visited the museum about 340 000 visitors over seven years 27 and in 2017 AiG reported that in the year since its other attraction the Ark Encounter opened the Creation Museum saw over 800 000 visitors nearly triple the annual average of 300 000 visitors 28 Ark Encounter edit Main article Ark Encounter nbsp Noah s Ark at Ark Encounter Answers in Genesis opened Ark Encounter a theme park in Grant County Kentucky on July 7 2016 29 The centerpiece of the park is a full scale model of Noah s Ark at 510 feet 160 m long and 81 feet 25 m high After a visit to Ark Encounter 30 Bill Nye who had previously debated Ham described his experience as much more troubling or disturbing than he thought it would be and stated that on the Ark s third deck every single science exhibit is absolutely wrong 31 In December 2016 for the holiday season AiG lit the Ark with rainbow colors aiming to reclaim the symbol from the gay rights movement and to remind viewers of the Noahic covenant 32 By late October 2016 over 400 000 people had visited the attraction 33 This contrasts a state study that projected the attraction would receive 325 000 to under 500 000 visitors in the first year 34 35 AiG reported that the Ark Encounter in its first year of operation attracted over 1 million visitors and aggregated 1 5 million total visitors for both the Ark and the Creation Museum 36 Workforce editIn 2007 about 160 people including a chaplain worked at the Creation Museum a division of AiG so these were AiG employees and another 140 people worked at the attached AiG headquarters 37 38 39 Each permanent employee of AiG including people who work at the museum must sign a statement of faith in order to preserve the function and integrity of the ministry indicating that he or she believes in young Earth creationism and the other teachings of Answers in Genesis These include Scripture teaches a recent origin for man and the whole creation the only legitimate marriage is the joining of one man and one woman the great Flood of Genesis was an actual historic event and no apparent perceived or claimed evidence in any field including history and chronology can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record 40 When applying for work a written statement of one s beliefs is required along with resume and references 41 42 In 2007 The Kentucky Post reported that the Creation Museum employed between 10 and 20 security guards armed with 40 caliber Glock handguns and three certified law enforcement canines 43 Creationist geologist Andrew A Snelling started working with AiG in 2007 44 as its director of research 45 Reception editCreation science which is supported by AiG is a pseudoscience that lacks the central defining characteristic of all modern scientific theories 46 47 48 Scientific and scholarly organizations including the National Academy of Sciences Paleontological Society Geological Society of America Australian Academy of Science and the Royal Society of Canada have issued statements against the teaching of creationism 49 The National Center for Science Education a science advocacy group criticize AiG s promotion of non science 50 51 52 In direct response to AiG No Answers in Genesis is a website maintained by members of the Australian Skeptics and retired civil servant John Stear for the purpose of rebutting claims made by AiG 53 Astronomer Hugh Ross s organization Reasons To Believe a progressive creationist organization is a critic of Answers in Genesis 54 The BioLogos Foundation which promotes evolutionary creationism has stated that the views of Answers in Genesis have force d many thoughtful Christians to lose their faith while The Biologos Foundation protect s the Christian faith 55 In 2011 skeptic Brian Dunning listed it as 5 on his Top 10 Worst Anti Science Websites list 56 Richard Dawkins interview edit In 1998 Answers in Genesis filmed an interview with Richard Dawkins a prominent evolutionary biologist at Oxford University resulting in a controversial video that AiG posted on its website 57 Dawkins addressed it in the essay The Information Challenge published in A Devil s Chaplain in 2003 The suspiciously amateurish interview included according to Dawkins the kind of question only a creationist would ask in that way namely to give an example of a genetic mutation or an evolutionary process which can be seen to increase the information in the genome Realizing that he had been duped Dawkins at his admission was angry at the thought and initially refused to answer the question but relented and continued the interview Dawkins wrote My generosity was rewarded in a fashion that anyone familiar with fundamentalist tactics might have predicted When I eventually saw the film a year later I found that it had been edited to give the false impression that I was incapable of answering the question about information content In fairness this may not have been quite as intentionally deceitful as it sounds You have to understand that these people really believe that their question cannot be answered 58 The Australian Skeptics wrote that AIG edited the film to give the appearance that Dawkins was unable to give an example of a genetic mutation or an evolutionary process which can be seen to increase the information in the genome and that a segment that shows him pausing for 11 seconds was a film of him considering whether to expel the interviewer from the room for not revealing her creationist sympathies at the outset Dawkins reported to the Australian Skeptics that the interviewer shown in the finished film was not the same person who had originally asked the questions Dawkins and Barry Williams also said that AIG had subsequently changed the question to make it look like Dawkins who answered the original question put to him was unable to answer 59 Anti atheism billboards edit In the spring of 2009 Answers in Genesis posted a billboard in Texas with a young boy aiming a gun towards the viewer with the words If God doesn t matter to him do you The same image was used in a TV ad 60 In 2014 the organization purchased space in Times Square to run a 15 second video advertisement addressed To all of our intolerant liberal friends According to AiG the goal of the billboard was to challenge the secularists who are increasingly intolerant of the Christian message The Christian Relevant Magazine described the ad as passive aggressive and weirdly combative 61 Great Homeschool Conventions edit In March 2011 the Board of Great Homeschool Conventions Inc a young Earth Christian group voted to disinvite Ken Ham and AiG from future conventions due to Ham s words about other Christians making unnecessary ungodly and mean spirited statements that are divisive at best and defamatory at worst The controversy stemmed from Ham s commentary on the position expressed by Peter Enns of The BioLogos Foundation who advocated a symbolic rather than a literal interpretation of the fall of Adam and Eve Writing on his blog Ham accused Enns of espousing outright liberal theology that totally undermines the authority of the Word of God which led to his invitation being revoked 62 Legal action by Creation Ministries Int l edit On May 31 2007 Creation Ministries International filed a lawsuit in Supreme Court of Queensland against Ken Ham and Answers in Genesis seeking damages and accusing him of unbiblical unethical unlawful behaviour in his dealings with the Australian organization 4 Before the split the Australian group had been producing periodicals Creation magazine and Journal of Creation which were then distributed in other countries by local groups The Australian group had no access to the list of subscribers in the US AiG discontinued the distribution arrangement and produced a new magazine of their own called Answers and represented that to subscribers as a replacement 63 Creation Ministries International claimed 252 000 US in damages for lost revenue by misleading and deceptive conduct in relating to lost subscriptions 64 65 An editorial analysis of the situation including reference to estranged co founder John Mackay s allegations in 1986 of necrophilia and witchcraft against Ken Ham s personal secretary is offered in an account in the Reports of the National Center for Science Education 66 In February 2009 the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit ordered Australian based Creation Ministries International into arbitration with Answers in Genesis over copyrights and control of affiliates in other countries 67 In April 2009 the ministries reached a settlement and ended their dispute 68 See also editInstitute for Creation Research Bill Nye Ken Ham debateNotes edit a b Charity Navigator Rating Answers in Genesis Charity Navigator Glen Rock NJ Charity Navigator Retrieved March 10 2016 Contact International Offices Answers in Genesis Retrieved February 24 2020 Answers in Genesis in legal turmoil Berkeley CA National Center for Science Education June 21 2007 Retrieved April 6 2008 a b McKenna Michael June 4 2007 Biblical battle of creation groups The Australian Surry Hills Australia News Corp Australia Retrieved September 30 2014 Creationist legal dispute resolved National Center for Science Education April 29 2009 Retrieved May 21 2021 Randerson James January 27 2008 God s journal The Guardian Blog London Retrieved September 30 2014 Goldstein Bonnie February 13 2008 Peer Reviewing the Bible Slate Washington D C The Washington Post Company Retrieved September 30 2014 Brumfiel Geoff January 23 2008 Creationists launch science journal Nature 451 7177 London Nature Publishing Group 382 383 Bibcode 2008Natur 451R 382B doi 10 1038 451382b ISSN 0028 0836 PMID 18216813 NRB 2006 Media Award Winners NRB Convention amp Exposition Manassas VA National Religious Broadcasters Archived from the original on August 8 2006 Retrieved September 30 2014 Reactions to creation museum Berkeley CA National Center for Science Education May 25 2007 Retrieved April 6 2008 a b Trollinger Susan L Trollinger William Vance Jr 2017 Chapter 31 The Bible and Creationism In Gutjahr Paul ed The Oxford Handbook of the Bible in America Oxford University Press pp 223 225 ISBN 9780190258856 Creation Science Answers in Genesis Retrieved April 12 2019 Creation Science Is Real Science Fletcher John 2013 Preaching to Convert Evangelical Outreach and Performance Activism in a Secular Age University of Michigan Press p 193 ISBN 9780472119158 Faith vs Reason Answers in Genesis Retrieved April 12 2019 Kennerly Britt June 30 2009 Paleontologists brought to tears laughter by Creation Museum Phys org Bielo James S 2017 Chapter 31 Performing the Bible In Gutjahr Paul ed The Oxford Handbook of the Bible in America Oxford University Press p 489 ISBN 9780190258856 Ohehir Andrew August 31 2005 Archaeology from the dark side Salon NAS 1999 Science and Creationism A View from the National Academy of Sciences Second Edition 1999 Archived April 23 2015 at the Wayback Machine In 1987 the U S Supreme Court ruled that creationism is religion not science and cannot be advocated in public school classrooms Kerby 2006 pp 9 10 MarieAnn Klett Leah May 1 2020 Answers in Genesis launches faith focused streaming service amid COVID 19 shutdown The Christian Post Retrieved January 23 2021 Dickerson Dane April 14 2022 Physicists and Theologians Stir as the James Webb Space Telescope Project Advances WV News Retrieved April 15 2022 Jarman Josh May 25 2007 Creating a stir The Columbus Dispatch Columbus OH Dispatch Printing Company Archived from the original on December 27 2018 Retrieved October 7 2014 Lovan Dylan T May 19 2007 Educators question Creation Museum The Augusta Chronicle Augusta GA Associated Press Retrieved October 7 2014 Rothstein Edward May 24 2007 Adam and Eve in the Land of the Dinosaurs The New York Times Museum review Retrieved April 6 2008 Gill A A February 2010 Roll Over Charles Darwin Vanity Fair New York Conde Nast ISSN 0733 8899 Retrieved November 30 2012 a b McNair James November 7 2012 Creation Museum Attendance Drops for Fourth Straight Year Cincinnati CityBeat Nashville TN SouthComm Inc Archived from the original on October 13 2014 Retrieved October 7 2014 Trollinger Susan L Trollinger William Vance Jr 2016 Righting America at the Creation Museum JHU Press p 13 ISBN 9781421419534 Wartman Scott July 7 2017 Creationist Parks Still a Potent Draw for Visitors and Controversy The Cincinnati Enquirer Retrieved July 9 2017 Answers in Genesis the nonprofit ministry that operates both the Creation Museum and Ark Encounter claims the Creation Museum has averaged 300 000 visitors a year since it opened in 2007 More than 800 000 have come since the Ark Encounter opened last year said Ken Ham founder of Answers in Genesis based in Petersburg in Boone County But there s no way to fact check these claims since AiG is a private organization Lovan Dylan July 5 2016 Noah s ark of biblical proportions ready to open in Kentucky Associated Press Nye Bill amp Ham Ken March 13 2017 Nye Ham The Second Debate Premiere video 117 04 YouTube Archived from the original on December 22 2021 Bill Nye Calls Ark Encounter Disturbing Argues Every Science Exhibit Absolutely Wrong After Visit Archived October 29 2020 at the Wayback Machine Christian Post July 18 2006 Wartman Scott December 23 2016 Kentucky Ark Builder Wants to Take Rainbow Back USA Today Retrieved January 17 2017 See also Caproni Erin October 25 2016 Flood of Visitors Lifts Ark Encounter to Unexpected Numbers Cincinnati Business Courier Retrieved November 19 2016 Answers in Genesis which created the park said it expects 1 2 million people to visit in the ark s first year Blackford Linda January 21 2015 Study Ark Encounter Could Bring Nearly 500 000 Visitors in First Year Lexington Herald Leader Retrieved November 19 2016 Loftus Tom January 21 2015 Noah s Ark Park Attendance Projections Cut in Half USA Today Retrieved November 19 2016 Smith Lawrance July 6 2017 1 Year After Opening Ark Encounter s Attendance and Impact is Growing WDRB Retrieved July 9 2017 Slevin Peter May 27 2007 A Monument To Creation The Washington Post Associated Press May 26 2007 Museum merges God science Vindy com Archived from the original on September 26 2007 Dinosaurs humans coexist in creationist museum January 15 2007 Archived January 18 2007 at the Wayback Machine Summary of the AiG Statement of Faith Archived October 6 2021 at the Wayback Machine Accessed May 28 2007 Ryan Clark Creation Museum touches lives Archived February 7 2009 at the Wayback Machine The Cincinnati Enquirer April 15 2007 Jobs at Answers in Genesis Archived April 21 2014 at the Wayback Machine Accessed May 28 2007 Eigelbach Kevin May 28 2007 God Guns Guards amp Dogs The Kentucky Post p A1 Knight Cameron May 12 2017 Creation Museum researcher sues feds over Grand Canyon permit The Cincinnati Enquirer via USA Today Zhou Naaman July 7 2017 Creationist Uses Trump Order to Get Permission to Take Rocks from Grand Canyon The Guardian Retrieved July 13 2017 Albert Leon Scientific Creationism as a Pseudoscience Creation Evolution Journal 6 2 27 Ruse Michael July 15 1982 Creation Science is not Science Science 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23 2007 Old Earth Creationism A Heretical Belief Glendora CA Reasons To Believe Archived from the original on October 12 2007 Retrieved February 19 2008 Giberson Karl June 15 2009 Saving Faith Washington D C The BioLogos Foundation Archived from the original on May 3 2014 Retrieved May 3 2014 Dunning Brian November 8 2011 Skeptoid 283 Top 10 Worst Anti Science Websites Skeptoid Retrieved October 23 2020 5 Answers in Genesis Herman David 2004 Public Intellectuals Poll Prospect Archived from the original on November 6 2011 Retrieved March 9 2008 Dawkins 2003 p 91 Williams Barry 1998 Creationist Deception Exposed PDF The Skeptic 18 3 Sydney Australian Skeptics 7 10 ISSN 0726 9897 Archived from the original PDF on October 16 2014 Retrieved October 9 2014 Belle Nicole June 2 2009 Christianist Group s Billboard Compares Atheism To Murder Crooks and Liars Blog Retrieved October 10 2014 Here s the Controversial Billboard Answers in Genesis Is Displaying in Times Square Tonight Archived August 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