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Questione Ladina

The Questione Ladina is a controversy over whether the Romance languages of Romansh, Ladin and Friulian form a proper language subfamily or should rather be regarded as a part of a wider Northern Italian dialect continuum. Both the idea of a distinctive language sub-family and the denial of a Ladin unity still have strong proponents, the former especially among Swiss, German and Austrian, the latter among Italian linguists.[1]: 18 [2] The issue has political implications beyond the linguistic controversy, as the areas involved have been subjects of territorial disputes, especially during the first half of the 20th century.[3]

The Rhaeto-Romance languages

Position of the Ascolians edit

The beginning of the Questione Ladina is marked in 1873 by the publication of the Saggi ladini by Graziadio Isaia Ascoli (1829–1907), who identified the area between the Oberalp Pass and the Gulf of Trieste as a specific language area, with some common characteristics, and called the idioms spoken there Ladin dialects (unità ladina).[1]: 16 [4]

The theory gained a large circulation with the publications of the Austrian linguist Theodor Gartner, who, however, used Rhaeto-Romance instead of Ladin as an umbrella term.[1]: 16 

Both postulated that there are a lot of common features in between Romansh, Ladin – also encompassing the dialects of the Non Valley (German: Nonsbergtal) and Val di Sole (German: Sulzbergtal) – and Friulian. This led them to the conclusion that a common ancestor of those languages used to be spoken in the area. Due to settlers and linguistic pressure from both German and Italian, the unity of the languages was disrupted, resulting in the development of several distinct languages.[5]

Position of the Battistians edit

The idea of a Ladin unity was strongly opposed by Carlo Battisti (1882–1977), who tried to demonstrate, in several studies, that the whole range of dialects in question showed only a few common characteristics and was just as closely related to neighboring Lombard and Venetian varieties. The dialectologist Carlo Salvioni held similar views.[1]: 16–17 [2]

They conclude that those "common features" are in fact features of a former Northern Italian dialect, which survived only in more isolated areas in the mountains.[1]: 16–17 

Other positions edit

A third position has been taken by other linguists (e.g. Heinrich Schmid, Andreas Schorta, Pierre Bec, Geoffrey Hull), who agree with the Italianists that the Rhaeto-Romance languages are archaic variants of the adjacent vernaculars of Lombardy, Trentino and Venetia, but differ from them in considering the entire Rhaeto-Cisalpine or 'Padanian' linguistic unity to be an integral unit of Gallo-Romance and structurally not Italo-Romance, in spite of superficial Italian influences in certain areas (Liguria, the Veneto and Istria primarily, but also in Friuli and parts of Lombardy).[6]

Aspects edit

A characteristic is the commixture of grammatical and sociolinguistic aspects, as well as of linguistic and political-ideological convictions. Battisti and Salvioni's research was influenced by sympathies for the Italian irredentism, leading to the demand that speakers of Romansh should accept Italian as a Dachsprache because of their Italianity, and subsequently to linguistically justified political claims that the Romansh-speaking Graubünden should become part of Italy.[1]: 17  On the other hand, Swiss linguists regarded mere grammatical features as subordinated to sociolinguistic and historic considerations, and they strongly supported the idea of a separate "language".[1]: 17 

Current discussion edit

It is currently debated whether or not to include the dialects of the Non Valley and the Valle di Sole into Rhaeto-Romance.[7] They are typically classified as Semi-Ladin or Ladin-Anaunian. The question gained prominence, since in the census of 2001, many speakers of those dialects self-identified as Ladins (there was no separate option for Anaunian).[8]

References edit

  1. ^ a b c d e f g Liver, Ricarda (1999). Rätoromanisch: eine Einführung in das Bündnerromanische [Rhaeto-Romance: An introduction to Romansh] (in German). Tübingen: G. Narr. ISBN 3-8233-4973-2.
  2. ^ a b Krefeld, Thomas (1994). "Der surselvische Wortschatz, die Questione ladina und die quantitative Arealtypologie" (PDF). Ladinia (in German). San Martin de Tor: Istitut Ladin Micurà de Rü. 18 (18): 261–288. doi:10.54218/ladinia.18.261-288. Retrieved 2 December 2022.
  3. ^ Werner Pescosta (2020). "La "questione ladina". Strumento di espansione e di giustificazione delle ambizioni nazionalistiche italiane e tedesche". In Ulrike Kindl; Hannes Obermair (eds.). Die Zeit dazwischen: Südtirol 1918–1922. Vom Ende des Ersten Weltkrieges bis zum faschistischen Regime / Il tempo sospeso: L'Alto Adige tra la fine della Grande Guerra e l'ascesa del fascismo (1918-1922) (in Italian). Meran: Alphabeta. pp. 157–218. ISBN 978-88-7223-365-8.
  4. ^ Goebl, Hans (1982). "Kulturgeschichtliche Bedingtheit von Kontaktlinguistik: Bemerkungen zum gegenwärtigen Stand der "Questione ladina"". In P., Sture Ureland (ed.). Die Leistung der Strataforschung und der Kreolistik: typologische Aspekte der Sprachkontakte. Akten des 5. Symposions über Sprachkontakt in Europa, Mannheim 1982 [Achievements of stratum research and creolistics: typological aspects of language contacts] (in German). Tübingen: Niemeyer. ISBN 3484301252.
  5. ^ Heinemann, Sabine (2015). "Questione Ladina". In Heinemann, Sabine; Melchior, Luca (eds.). Manuale di linguistica friulana [Handbook of the Friulan language]. Manuals of Romance Linguistics (in Italian). Berlin/Boston: De Gruyter. pp. 57–72. ISBN 9783110310597.
  6. ^ For a description of the Rhaeto-Cisalpine system and a discussion of classifications, see especially:
    Hull, Geoffrey (2017). The linguistic unity of northern Italy and Rhaetia: Historical grammar of the Padanian language. Vol. 1. Sydney: Beta Crucis. ISBN 978-1-64007-053-0.
    Hull, Geoffrey (2017). The linguistic unity of northern Italy and Rhaetia: Historical grammar of the Padanian language. Vol. 2. Sydney: Beta Crucis. ISBN 978-1-54987-998-2.
  7. ^ "Ladinità noneja: la Dominici contra i fascegn" [The Ladinity of the Non Valley: Caterina Dominici versus the Fassa-Ladins]. La Usc di Ladins (in Ladin). No. 50. St. Ulrich in Gröden: Plata dla Union Generela di Ladins dla Dolomites. 21 December 2012. p. 6.
  8. ^ Eccher, Giacomo (30 June 2012). . Trentino Corriere delle Alpi (in Italian). Gruppo Editoriale L’Espresso. Archived from the original on 3 February 2014.

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The Questione Ladina is a controversy over whether the Romance languages of Romansh Ladin and Friulian form a proper language subfamily or should rather be regarded as a part of a wider Northern Italian dialect continuum Both the idea of a distinctive language sub family and the denial of a Ladin unity still have strong proponents the former especially among Swiss German and Austrian the latter among Italian linguists 1 18 2 The issue has political implications beyond the linguistic controversy as the areas involved have been subjects of territorial disputes especially during the first half of the 20th century 3 The Rhaeto Romance languages Contents 1 Position of the Ascolians 2 Position of the Battistians 3 Other positions 4 Aspects 5 Current discussion 6 ReferencesPosition of the Ascolians editThe beginning of the Questione Ladina is marked in 1873 by the publication of the Saggi ladini by Graziadio Isaia Ascoli 1829 1907 who identified the area between the Oberalp Pass and the Gulf of Trieste as a specific language area with some common characteristics and called the idioms spoken there Ladin dialects unita ladina 1 16 4 The theory gained a large circulation with the publications of the Austrian linguist Theodor Gartner who however used Rhaeto Romance instead of Ladin as an umbrella term 1 16 Both postulated that there are a lot of common features in between Romansh Ladin also encompassing the dialects of the Non Valley German Nonsbergtal and Val di Sole German Sulzbergtal and Friulian This led them to the conclusion that a common ancestor of those languages used to be spoken in the area Due to settlers and linguistic pressure from both German and Italian the unity of the languages was disrupted resulting in the development of several distinct languages 5 Position of the Battistians editThe idea of a Ladin unity was strongly opposed by Carlo Battisti 1882 1977 who tried to demonstrate in several studies that the whole range of dialects in question showed only a few common characteristics and was just as closely related to neighboring Lombard and Venetian varieties The dialectologist Carlo Salvioni held similar views 1 16 17 2 They conclude that those common features are in fact features of a former Northern Italian dialect which survived only in more isolated areas in the mountains 1 16 17 Other positions editA third position has been taken by other linguists e g Heinrich Schmid Andreas Schorta Pierre Bec Geoffrey Hull who agree with the Italianists that the Rhaeto Romance languages are archaic variants of the adjacent vernaculars of Lombardy Trentino and Venetia but differ from them in considering the entire Rhaeto Cisalpine or Padanian linguistic unity to be an integral unit of Gallo Romance and structurally not Italo Romance in spite of superficial Italian influences in certain areas Liguria the Veneto and Istria primarily but also in Friuli and parts of Lombardy 6 Aspects editA characteristic is the commixture of grammatical and sociolinguistic aspects as well as of linguistic and political ideological convictions Battisti and Salvioni s research was influenced by sympathies for the Italian irredentism leading to the demand that speakers of Romansh should accept Italian as a Dachsprache because of their Italianity and subsequently to linguistically justified political claims that the Romansh speaking Graubunden should become part of Italy 1 17 On the other hand Swiss linguists regarded mere grammatical features as subordinated to sociolinguistic and historic considerations and they strongly supported the idea of a separate language 1 17 Current discussion editIt is currently debated whether or not to include the dialects of the Non Valley and the Valle di Sole into Rhaeto Romance 7 They are typically classified as Semi Ladin or Ladin Anaunian The question gained prominence since in the census of 2001 many speakers of those dialects self identified as Ladins there was no separate option for Anaunian 8 References edit a b c d e f g Liver Ricarda 1999 Ratoromanisch eine Einfuhrung in das Bundnerromanische Rhaeto Romance An introduction to Romansh in German Tubingen G Narr ISBN 3 8233 4973 2 a b Krefeld Thomas 1994 Der surselvische Wortschatz die Questione ladina und die quantitative Arealtypologie PDF Ladinia in German San Martin de Tor Istitut Ladin Micura de Ru 18 18 261 288 doi 10 54218 ladinia 18 261 288 Retrieved 2 December 2022 Werner Pescosta 2020 La questione ladina Strumento di espansione e di giustificazione delle ambizioni nazionalistiche italiane e tedesche In Ulrike Kindl Hannes Obermair eds Die Zeit dazwischen Sudtirol 1918 1922 Vom Ende des Ersten Weltkrieges bis zum faschistischen Regime Il tempo sospeso L Alto Adige tra la fine della Grande Guerra e l ascesa del fascismo 1918 1922 in Italian Meran Alphabeta pp 157 218 ISBN 978 88 7223 365 8 Goebl Hans 1982 Kulturgeschichtliche Bedingtheit von Kontaktlinguistik Bemerkungen zum gegenwartigen Stand der Questione ladina In P Sture Ureland ed Die Leistung der Strataforschung und der Kreolistik typologische Aspekte der Sprachkontakte Akten des 5 Symposions uber Sprachkontakt in Europa Mannheim 1982 Achievements of stratum research and creolistics typological aspects of language contacts in German Tubingen Niemeyer ISBN 3484301252 Heinemann Sabine 2015 Questione Ladina In Heinemann Sabine Melchior Luca eds Manuale di linguistica friulana Handbook of the Friulan language Manuals of Romance Linguistics in Italian Berlin Boston De Gruyter pp 57 72 ISBN 9783110310597 For a description of the Rhaeto Cisalpine system and a discussion of classifications see especially Hull Geoffrey 2017 The linguistic unity of northern Italy and Rhaetia Historical grammar of the Padanian language Vol 1 Sydney Beta Crucis ISBN 978 1 64007 053 0 Hull Geoffrey 2017 The linguistic unity of northern Italy and Rhaetia Historical grammar of the Padanian language Vol 2 Sydney Beta Crucis ISBN 978 1 54987 998 2 Ladinita noneja la Dominici contra i fascegn The Ladinity of the Non Valley Caterina Dominici versus the Fassa Ladins La Usc di Ladins in Ladin No 50 St Ulrich in Groden Plata dla Union Generela di Ladins dla Dolomites 21 December 2012 p 6 Eccher Giacomo 30 June 2012 Ladini i nonesi superano i fassani Trentino Corriere delle Alpi in Italian Gruppo Editoriale L Espresso Archived from the original on 3 February 2014 Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Questione Ladina amp oldid 1185155124, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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