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They Liked You Better When You Were Dead

They Liked You Better When You Were Dead is the debut EP by English rock band Fightstar, released on 28 February 2005 through Sandwich Leg Records. The release proved a critical success, in spite of the cynics' initial expectations of the band. It has been said that the EP helped "present Fightstar as a British rival to the East Coast alternative rock scene".[1] Alex Westaway, the band's lead guitarist and co-lyricist drew the artwork based on Edward Norton for the inlay of the booklet,[2] as the record was inspired by author Chuck Palahniuk and the film adaptation Fight Club.[3]

They Liked You Better When You Were Dead
EP by
Released28 February 2005
RecordedNovember 2004
StudioCriterion Studios, London, England
Genre
Length25:39 (EP)
38:39 (Mini-LP)
Label
ProducerMark Williams
Fightstar chronology
They Liked You Better When You Were Dead
(2005)
Grand Unification
(2006)
Singles from They Liked Better When You Were Dead
  1. "Palahniuk's Laughter"
    Released: January 2005

The UK version contained 5 tracks (including a sixth hidden track), meaning the EP was ineligible for the UK Singles Chart. However, the release proved popular enough to warrant a reprinting on 23 March 2005. The music video for "Palahniuk's Laughter" enjoyed heavy rotation on music channels and spent many weeks in charts based on video and radio requests.[4] The EP was released in April 2006 in North America through Deep Elm Records[5] as an extended mini-album.

Background, writing and recording edit

During 2003, when Charlie Simpson was still an active member of successful pop trio Busted, he met fellow songwriter-guitarist Alex Westaway and drummer Omar Abidi at a party. He was by this stage becoming increasingly frustrated by the music he was performing in Busted and stated he had "all of this creativity pent up inside and I just needed to vent it somewhere, and I was writing a lot of songs but I couldn’t play them, because I didn’t have anyone to play them with".[6]

Westaway subsequently moved into Simpson's spare room after dropping out of university and the pair began writing together. Over the next six months, the EP had been written.[3] Alex later invited school friend, bassist Dan Haigh, to practise with the band and the foursome soon began booking regular rehearsal sessions together.[6] Later, after Simpson had decided to focus on Fightstar full-time, the band entered Criterion Studios in London with producer Mark Williams to begin tracking.[6] Recording sessions were often interrupted as during this period Simpson was in the middle of a sold-out stint of Wembley shows with Busted.[7] Commenting on recording period, Simpson later stated:

This EP was all I cared about. It consumed my mind. It was the first time I'd recorded anything that I loved. I was 18 and we were just kids having fun. It was the most innocent record because we weren't thinking about how it might be received at all. We just wanted to record some songs. There were no limitations: we were just doing it for ourselves. It was such a fun time. I'll always remember those days. We didn't have a care in the world.[7]

The song "Mono", named in honor of the Japanese band of the same name, was recorded during a thunderstorm. Shortly before the track's heavy finale, it's possible to hear the sound of Simpson screaming in the rain after he ran outside, unaware the studio's room mics were capturing his antics.[7] The video for promotional video "Palahniuk's Laughter" was directed by bassist Dan Haigh and was released to music stations shortly after Simpson's official departure from Busted.

Reception edit

Professional ratings
Review scores
SourceRating
AllMusic     [8]
Aversion     [9]
Kerrang!     
MusicOMH(favorable)[10]
Punknews.org     [11]
Rock Sound9/10
Sputnikmusic     [12]

Following much scepticism during the band's emergence due to Charlie Simpson's past, things began to turn in the quartet's favour. A string of positive reviews to early live shows were followed by acclaimed reaction to the EPs release.

Allmusic were highly favourable, awarding four stars. They wrote, "At a time when post-hardcore's torch seems to have been almost completely passed to succeeding generations of screamo bands, Fightstar stand firmly enough on the mother country of their genre to do well by the legacy of groups such as Fugazi and Helmet. Vocalists Al Westaway and Charlie Simpson utilize a distinct sound that reaches total catharsis. Train-like guitar work also adds strength to the record, creating drama and tension in the key moments. The driving force behind most of the songs, however, is the rhythm section. The tight bass lines and tighter drumming are what lead each track through its arc, shirking convention when things start to get clichéd".[8]

American music website Aversion awarded the album four stars in their review. They commented; "Few can really channel an obsession with a celebrity into something truly productive – bedroom shrines and mashed potato monuments are just creepy. But four North Londoners known as Fightstar have done just that with their infatuation with Fight Club author, Chuck Palahniuk. Through passionate musicianship that's equal parts serenading melody and jarring punch, these blokes unleash a welcome roundhouse kick to the face of overly sensitive emo rock, triggering crying fits and bloodying scarves".[9]

British rock publication, Kerrang!, awarded an "excellent" four K rating in their review. They wrote, "They Liked You Better When You Were Dead delivers. Articulate rage, barbed guitars and epic choruses recall the likes of Thursday or Brand New. 'Palahniuk's Laughter' floors the listener with a mammoth-rolling riff. 'Speak Up' builds into walls of noise and anguished vocals. The six and a half minutes of 'Mono' are simply majestic, featuring barely audible swirling guitars and whispered vocals that grow into a momentous, bludgeoning roar. Simpson and Westaway play like they have been in the same band for years, weaving intricate soundscapes and dark passages of crushing noise. Stunning post-hardcore."

Vik Bansal of MusicOMH was also very positive in his review. With regards to Simpson abandoning his former pop career, he stated, "They Liked You Better When You Were Dead is such a good debut EP that the fact Monsieur Simpson used to be part of a heinous crime against humanity's ears is an irrelevant piece of history that will soon be consigned to pub quizzes and trivia board games". He picked out "Mono" as a stand-out track; "'Mono' is the centrepiece of the EP - a brooding slowie that builds into a swathing crescendo of weighty power chords and will have you reaching for the repeat button as soon as it's over".[10] Rock Sound were also full of praise in their review, scoring the album at 9/10; "Fightstar clearly demonstrate that they can hold their own in a world of heavy, emotional rock. Anyone who likes Muse, Biffy Clyro, Radiohead and even Scissorfight will find something to be absorbed in here. Brilliantly executed".

Adam Knott of Sputnikmusic said during his review that the album was, "one of the most surprising first impressions I've ever heard". Awarding an "excellent" four out of five rating, he added; "The combination of grit and beauty is most prominent on 'Until Then', which morphs from an all-out rocker to a softly crooned middle section and back again, and it's this duality which lends itself to multiple listens. To say that Fightstar's debut EP showed promise or potential would be a disservice - They Liked You Better When You Were Dead is in and of itself a release well worthy of a place on any discerning music-lover's bedroom shelf".[12]

Track listing edit

All lyrics are written by Charlie Simpson and Alex Westaway; all music is composed by Fightstar[13]

Original EP
No.TitleLength
1."Palahniuk's Laughter"4:10
2."Speak Up"3:27
3."Mono"6:26
4."Lost Like Tears in Rain"4:07
5."Amethyst" (contains the hidden track "Hazy Eyes")7:19
Total length:25:39
Mini-LP
No.TitleLength
1."Paint Your Target"3:18
2."Palahniuk's Laughter"4:10
3."Amethyst"4:20
4."Lost Like Tears in Rain"4:06
5."Speak Up"3:27
6."Until Then"4:40
7."Cross Out the Stars"5:02
8."Hazy Eyes"3:10
9."Mono"6:22
Total length:38:39

Personnel edit

The following personnel contributed to They Liked You Better When You Were Dead:[13]

Fightstar
Production
  • Mark Williams — producer, mixing
  • Eric Broyhill — mastering
  • Alan Butterworth — photography
  • Amy Cooper – photography
  • Charlie Hodgson – photography
  • Craig Jennings — A&R

Release history edit

Region Date Label Type Format Catalogue # Ref.
Japan 25 February 2005 Universal EP Digipack UICI1043 [14]
Europe 28 February 2005 Sandwich Leg EP Digipack CID887 [15]
North America 12 April 2006 Deep Elm Mini-LP Compact Disc DER-453 [16]

References edit

  1. ^ . Yorkshire Evening Post. Archived from the original on 15 February 2009. Retrieved 29 January 2009.
  2. ^ "Fightstar's "Making Palahniuk's Laughter - Post production"". Fightstarmusic. Archived from the original on 12 December 2021. Retrieved 19 September 2006.
  3. ^ a b . Crowdsurfer.net. Archived from the original on 4 August 2009. Retrieved 2 May 2009.
  4. ^ "Band Biography for Fightstar". Leeds Gig Guide. Retrieved 25 October 2009.
  5. ^ "Deep Elm Records signs Fightstar". Alternative Press. 20 December 2005. Retrieved 25 June 2016.
  6. ^ a b c Guest, Los. Kerrang! Radio. Archived from the original on 14 August 2009. Retrieved 5 August 2009.
  7. ^ a b c "Charlie Simpson's Treasure Chest - An Intimate Portrait of A Life In Rock", Kerrang!, no. 1264, p. 40, 3 June 2009
  8. ^ a b Collar, Cammila. "They Like You Better When You Were Dead - Fightstar". AllMusic.
  9. ^ a b Barr, Josh. "They Liked You Better When You Were Dead". Aversion. Retrieved 17 April 2007.[dead link]
  10. ^ a b Bansal, Vik. . MusicOMH. Archived from the original on 14 December 2006. Retrieved 28 May 2005.
  11. ^ Shultz, Brian (14 April 2006). "Fightstar - They Liked You Better When You Were Dead". Punknews.org. Retrieved 25 December 2015.
  12. ^ a b Knott, Adam. "Fightstar: They Liked You Better When You Were Dead". Sputnikmusic. Retrieved 8 July 2007.
  13. ^ a b They Liked You Better When You Were Dead (Digipack). Fightstar. Sandwich Leg Records. 2005. CID887.{{cite AV media notes}}: CS1 maint: others in cite AV media (notes) (link)
  14. ^ . EIL. Archived from the original on 7 June 2011. Retrieved 22 September 2009.
  15. ^ . Eil. Archived from the original on 7 June 2011. Retrieved 13 March 2006.
  16. ^ "They Liked You Better When You Were Dead (Import) by Fightstar". Amazon UK. 11 April 2006. Retrieved 17 April 2007.

External links edit

  • The Official Website of Fightstar

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They Liked You Better When You Were Dead is the debut EP by English rock band Fightstar released on 28 February 2005 through Sandwich Leg Records The release proved a critical success in spite of the cynics initial expectations of the band It has been said that the EP helped present Fightstar as a British rival to the East Coast alternative rock scene 1 Alex Westaway the band s lead guitarist and co lyricist drew the artwork based on Edward Norton for the inlay of the booklet 2 as the record was inspired by author Chuck Palahniuk and the film adaptation Fight Club 3 They Liked You Better When You Were DeadEP by FightstarReleased28 February 2005RecordedNovember 2004StudioCriterion Studios London EnglandGenreAlternative metalpost hardcoreemoLength25 39 EP 38 39 Mini LP LabelSandwich Leg Deep ElmProducerMark WilliamsFightstar chronologyThey Liked You Better When You Were Dead 2005 Grand Unification 2006 Singles from They Liked Better When You Were Dead Palahniuk s Laughter Released January 2005The UK version contained 5 tracks including a sixth hidden track meaning the EP was ineligible for the UK Singles Chart However the release proved popular enough to warrant a reprinting on 23 March 2005 The music video for Palahniuk s Laughter enjoyed heavy rotation on music channels and spent many weeks in charts based on video and radio requests 4 The EP was released in April 2006 in North America through Deep Elm Records 5 as an extended mini album Contents 1 Background writing and recording 2 Reception 3 Track listing 4 Personnel 5 Release history 6 References 7 External linksBackground writing and recording editDuring 2003 when Charlie Simpson was still an active member of successful pop trio Busted he met fellow songwriter guitarist Alex Westaway and drummer Omar Abidi at a party He was by this stage becoming increasingly frustrated by the music he was performing in Busted and stated he had all of this creativity pent up inside and I just needed to vent it somewhere and I was writing a lot of songs but I couldn t play them because I didn t have anyone to play them with 6 Westaway subsequently moved into Simpson s spare room after dropping out of university and the pair began writing together Over the next six months the EP had been written 3 Alex later invited school friend bassist Dan Haigh to practise with the band and the foursome soon began booking regular rehearsal sessions together 6 Later after Simpson had decided to focus on Fightstar full time the band entered Criterion Studios in London with producer Mark Williams to begin tracking 6 Recording sessions were often interrupted as during this period Simpson was in the middle of a sold out stint of Wembley shows with Busted 7 Commenting on recording period Simpson later stated This EP was all I cared about It consumed my mind It was the first time I d recorded anything that I loved I was 18 and we were just kids having fun It was the most innocent record because we weren t thinking about how it might be received at all We just wanted to record some songs There were no limitations we were just doing it for ourselves It was such a fun time I ll always remember those days We didn t have a care in the world 7 The song Mono named in honor of the Japanese band of the same name was recorded during a thunderstorm Shortly before the track s heavy finale it s possible to hear the sound of Simpson screaming in the rain after he ran outside unaware the studio s room mics were capturing his antics 7 The video for promotional video Palahniuk s Laughter was directed by bassist Dan Haigh and was released to music stations shortly after Simpson s official departure from Busted Reception editProfessional ratingsReview scoresSourceRatingAllMusic nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp 8 Aversion nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp 9 Kerrang nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp MusicOMH favorable 10 Punknews org nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp 11 Rock Sound9 10Sputnikmusic nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp 12 Following much scepticism during the band s emergence due to Charlie Simpson s past things began to turn in the quartet s favour A string of positive reviews to early live shows were followed by acclaimed reaction to the EPs release Allmusic were highly favourable awarding four stars They wrote At a time when post hardcore s torch seems to have been almost completely passed to succeeding generations of screamo bands Fightstar stand firmly enough on the mother country of their genre to do well by the legacy of groups such as Fugazi and Helmet Vocalists Al Westaway and Charlie Simpson utilize a distinct sound that reaches total catharsis Train like guitar work also adds strength to the record creating drama and tension in the key moments The driving force behind most of the songs however is the rhythm section The tight bass lines and tighter drumming are what lead each track through its arc shirking convention when things start to get cliched 8 American music website Aversion awarded the album four stars in their review They commented Few can really channel an obsession with a celebrity into something truly productive bedroom shrines and mashed potato monuments are just creepy But four North Londoners known as Fightstar have done just that with their infatuation with Fight Club author Chuck Palahniuk Through passionate musicianship that s equal parts serenading melody and jarring punch these blokes unleash a welcome roundhouse kick to the face of overly sensitive emo rock triggering crying fits and bloodying scarves 9 British rock publication Kerrang awarded an excellent four K rating in their review They wrote They Liked You Better When You Were Dead delivers Articulate rage barbed guitars and epic choruses recall the likes of Thursday or Brand New Palahniuk s Laughter floors the listener with a mammoth rolling riff Speak Up builds into walls of noise and anguished vocals The six and a half minutes of Mono are simply majestic featuring barely audible swirling guitars and whispered vocals that grow into a momentous bludgeoning roar Simpson and Westaway play like they have been in the same band for years weaving intricate soundscapes and dark passages of crushing noise Stunning post hardcore Vik Bansal of MusicOMH was also very positive in his review With regards to Simpson abandoning his former pop career he stated They Liked You Better When You Were Dead is such a good debut EP that the fact Monsieur Simpson used to be part of a heinous crime against humanity s ears is an irrelevant piece of history that will soon be consigned to pub quizzes and trivia board games He picked out Mono as a stand out track Mono is the centrepiece of the EP a brooding slowie that builds into a swathing crescendo of weighty power chords and will have you reaching for the repeat button as soon as it s over 10 Rock Sound were also full of praise in their review scoring the album at 9 10 Fightstar clearly demonstrate that they can hold their own in a world of heavy emotional rock Anyone who likes Muse Biffy Clyro Radiohead and even Scissorfight will find something to be absorbed in here Brilliantly executed Adam Knott of Sputnikmusic said during his review that the album was one of the most surprising first impressions I ve ever heard Awarding an excellent four out of five rating he added The combination of grit and beauty is most prominent on Until Then which morphs from an all out rocker to a softly crooned middle section and back again and it s this duality which lends itself to multiple listens To say that Fightstar s debut EP showed promise or potential would be a disservice They Liked You Better When You Were Dead is in and of itself a release well worthy of a place on any discerning music lover s bedroom shelf 12 Track listing editAll lyrics are written by Charlie Simpson and Alex Westaway all music is composed by Fightstar 13 Original EPNo TitleLength1 Palahniuk s Laughter 4 102 Speak Up 3 273 Mono 6 264 Lost Like Tears in Rain 4 075 Amethyst contains the hidden track Hazy Eyes 7 19Total length 25 39 Mini LPNo TitleLength1 Paint Your Target 3 182 Palahniuk s Laughter 4 103 Amethyst 4 204 Lost Like Tears in Rain 4 065 Speak Up 3 276 Until Then 4 407 Cross Out the Stars 5 028 Hazy Eyes 3 109 Mono 6 22Total length 38 39Personnel editThe following personnel contributed to They Liked You Better When You Were Dead 13 FightstarCharlie Simpson vocals rhythm guitar lyrics Alex Westaway vocals guitar artwork lyrics Dan Haigh bass guitar design Omar Abidi drums percussionProductionMark Williams producer mixing Eric Broyhill mastering Alan Butterworth photography Amy Cooper photography Charlie Hodgson photography Craig Jennings A amp RRelease history editRegion Date Label Type Format Catalogue Ref Japan 25 February 2005 Universal EP Digipack UICI1043 14 Europe 28 February 2005 Sandwich Leg EP Digipack CID887 15 North America 12 April 2006 Deep Elm Mini LP Compact Disc DER 453 16 References edit INTERVIEW Fightstar Yorkshire Evening Post Archived from the original on 15 February 2009 Retrieved 29 January 2009 Fightstar s Making Palahniuk s Laughter Post production Fightstarmusic Archived from the original on 12 December 2021 Retrieved 19 September 2006 a b Fightstar Liverpool 02 05 09 Crowdsurfer net Archived from the original on 4 August 2009 Retrieved 2 May 2009 Band Biography for Fightstar Leeds Gig Guide Retrieved 25 October 2009 Deep Elm Records signs Fightstar Alternative Press 20 December 2005 Retrieved 25 June 2016 a b c Guest Los I Am Fightstar Kerrang Radio Archived from the original on 14 August 2009 Retrieved 5 August 2009 a b c Charlie Simpson s Treasure Chest An Intimate Portrait of A Life In Rock Kerrang no 1264 p 40 3 June 2009 a b Collar Cammila They Like You Better When You Were Dead Fightstar AllMusic a b Barr Josh They Liked You Better When You Were Dead Aversion Retrieved 17 April 2007 dead link a b Bansal Vik Fightstar They Liked You Better When You Were Dead EP Sandwich Leg MusicOMH Archived from the original on 14 December 2006 Retrieved 28 May 2005 Shultz Brian 14 April 2006 Fightstar They Liked You Better When You Were Dead Punknews org Retrieved 25 December 2015 a b Knott Adam Fightstar They Liked You Better When You Were Dead Sputnikmusic Retrieved 8 July 2007 a b They Liked You Better When You Were Dead Digipack Fightstar Sandwich Leg Records 2005 CID887 a href Template Cite AV media notes html title Template Cite AV media notes cite AV media notes a CS1 maint others in cite AV media notes link FIGHTSTAR They Liked You Better When You Were Dead 2005 Japanese exclusive EIL Archived from the original on 7 June 2011 Retrieved 22 September 2009 FIGHTSTAR They Liked You Better When You Were Dead 2005 European limited edition 5 track CD EP Eil Archived from the original on 7 June 2011 Retrieved 13 March 2006 They Liked You Better When You Were Dead Import by Fightstar Amazon UK 11 April 2006 Retrieved 17 April 2007 External links editThe Official Website of Fightstar Retrieved from https en wikipedia org 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