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Battle of the Herrings

The Battle of the Herrings, also called the Battle of Rouvray, was a military action near the town of Rouvray in France, just north of Orléans, which took place on 12 February 1429, during the siege of Orléans in the Hundred Years' War. The immediate cause of the battle was an attempt by French and Scottish forces, led by Charles of Bourbon and Sir John Stewart of Darnley, to intercept a supply convoy headed for the English army at Orléans. The English had been laying siege to the city since the previous October. This supply convoy was escorted by an English force under Sir John Fastolf and had been outfitted in Paris, from whence it had departed some time earlier. The battle was decisively won by the English.

Battle of the Herrings
Part of the Hundred Years' War (1415–53 phase)

Illumination adorning La Cronicque du temps de Tres Chrestien Roy Charles, septisme de ce nom, roy de France by Jean Chartier, c. 1470–1479
Date12 February 1429
Location
Result English victory
Belligerents
Kingdom of France
Kingdom of Scotland
Kingdom of England
Commanders and leaders
Charles de Bourbon
John Stewart 
John Fastolf
Simon Morhier
Strength
around 4,000 1,600[1]
Casualties and losses
500–600 Unknown but presumably light

According to Régine Pernoud, the supply train consisted of "some 300 carts and wagons, carrying crossbow shafts, cannons and cannonballs but also barrels of herring". The latter were being sent since the meatless Lenten days were approaching. It was the presence of this stock of fish which would give the somewhat unusual name to the battle.

The battle edit

 
Journée des Harengs (from Les Vigiles de Charles VII by Martial d'Auvergne, written c. 1477–84, held by Bibliothèque Nationale, Paris)

The field of battle was an almost featureless, flat plain. The French army, numbering between 3,000 and 4,000, confronted the much smaller English force who had set up defensive positions by drawing up the supply wagons into a makeshift fortification.[2]: 61  The entire defensive formation was then further protected by the placement of sharpened wooden stakes all around to prevent the French cavalry from charging, a tactic which had been employed with great success at Agincourt. The French attack began with a bombardment using gunpowder artillery, a relatively new weapon for the time and one whose proper usage was not well understood although it was damaging to the wagons and caused English casualties.[2]: 61–62 

The 400-strong Scottish infantry, contrary to the orders of the Count of Clermont (Pernoud states that "Clermont sent message after message forbidding any attack") attacked the English position. According to deVries, this forced the premature cessation of the artillery bombardment out of fear of striking their own forces. The Scots were not well protected by armour, and great damage was visited upon them by the English archers and crossbowmen who were shooting from behind the protection of their wagon fort.[2]: 62 

French cavalry went in to support the Scottish infantry but were stopped by the archers and stakes. At this point, the English, seeing that the French infantry were slow to join the Scots in the attack (Pernoud quotes the Journal du siege d'Orléans to the effect that the remaining French forces "came on in a cowardly fashion, and did not join up with the constable and the other foot soldiers"), decided to counterattack. They struck the rear and flanks of the disorganized French/Scottish forces and routed them.[2]: 62 

The convoy reformed and proceeded to supply the besieging English force. The morale effect of the battle affected both sides.

There are two places called Rouvray in the region in question. In his biography of Sir John Fastolf, Stephen Cooper gives reasons the battle probably took place near Rouvray-Sainte-Croix, rather than Rouvray-Saint-Denis. Pernoud states that the combined French/Scottish forces lost about 400 men, including Stewart, the leader of the Scots. Among the wounded was Jean de Dunois, known also as the Bastard of Orléans, who barely escaped with his life and who would later play a crucial role, along with Joan of Arc, in the lifting of the siege of Orléans and the French Loire campaign which followed.

Aftermath and significance edit

While it is generally felt today that the Battle of the Herrings was lost by the French because of the failure to continue the artillery bombardment to its full effect, such was not the view at the time, at least in the besieged city of Orléans. Within the city walls, as can be seen from the passage in the Journal du siege, the Count of Clermont was generally blamed for the disaster, being considered a coward and held in disdain. Soon thereafter, Clermont, together with the wounded Count Dunois, left Orléans together with about 2000 soldiers.[2]: 62  Morale within the city and among its leaders was at a low point, so much so that consideration was given to surrendering the city.

The Battle of the Herrings was the most significant military action during the siege of Orléans from its inception in October 1428 until the appearance on the scene, in May of the following year, of Joan of Arc. Even so, it was, to all appearances, a rather minor engagement and, were it not for the context in which it occurred, would likely have been relegated to the merest of footnotes in military history or even forgotten altogether.

But not only was it part of one of the most famous siege actions in history, the story also gained currency that it played a pivotal role in convincing Robert de Baudricourt in Vaucouleurs, to accede to Joan's demand for support and safe conduct to Chinon. For it was on the very day (12 February 1429) of the battle that Joan met with de Baudricourt for the final time. According to the story, recounted in several places (for example, in Sackville-West), Joan gave out the information that "the Dauphin's arms had that day suffered a great reverse near Orléans". When, several days later, news of the military setback near Rouvray did in fact reach Vaucouleurs, de Baudricourt, according to the story, relented and agreed to sponsor her journey to the Dauphin in Chinon. Joan finally left Vaucouleurs for Chinon on 23 February 1429.

In popular culture edit

Polish fantasy writer, Andrzej Sapkowski described the battle in his novel, Lux perpetua. The novel is part of the Hussite Trilogy, which takes place in 15th-century Silesia, during the Hussite Wars. The short description of the battle is not connected with the main plot. Sir John Fastolf is shown as a comical figure who wins the battle thanks to rumours he may have heard about the Bohemian heretics and their commander, Jan Žižka. Fastolf, feeling hopeless in the face of the enemy, forms his wagons into a wagenburg and surprisingly wins.

The Battle of the Herrings also appears as a vignette in Robert Nye's novel, Falstaff, told through the eyes of the English commander himself.

See also edit

Notes edit

  1. ^ Wavrin 1891, pp. 162, 164–5.
  2. ^ a b c d e Devries, Kelly (2011). Joan of Arc a military leader. The History Press 2003. ISBN 978-0752460611.

References edit

External links edit

  • Xenophon Group (21 December 1999). . Archived from the original on 25 September 2017. Retrieved 4 May 2008.

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the English Battle of the HerringsPart of the Hundred Years War 1415 53 phase Illumination adorning La Cronicque du temps de Tres Chrestien Roy Charles septisme de ce nom roy de France by Jean Chartier c 1470 1479Date12 February 1429LocationNear Rouvray FranceResultEnglish victoryBelligerentsKingdom of France Kingdom of ScotlandKingdom of EnglandCommanders and leadersCharles de Bourbon John Stewart John Fastolf Simon MorhierStrengtharound 4 0001 600 1 Casualties and losses500 600Unknown but presumably light According to Regine Pernoud the supply train consisted of some 300 carts and wagons carrying crossbow shafts cannons and cannonballs but also barrels of herring The latter were being sent since the meatless Lenten days were approaching It was the presence of this stock of fish which would give the somewhat unusual name to the battle Contents 1 The battle 2 Aftermath and significance 3 In popular culture 4 See also 5 Notes 6 References 7 External linksThe battle edit nbsp Journee des Harengs from Les Vigiles de Charles VII by Martial d Auvergne written c 1477 84 held by Bibliotheque Nationale Paris The field of battle was an almost featureless flat plain The French army numbering between 3 000 and 4 000 confronted the much smaller English force who had set up defensive positions by drawing up the supply wagons into a makeshift fortification 2 61 The entire defensive formation was then further protected by the placement of sharpened wooden stakes all around to prevent the French cavalry from charging a tactic which had been employed with great success at Agincourt The French attack began with a bombardment using gunpowder artillery a relatively new weapon for the time and one whose proper usage was not well understood although it was damaging to the wagons and caused English casualties 2 61 62 The 400 strong Scottish infantry contrary to the orders of the Count of Clermont Pernoud states that Clermont sent message after message forbidding any attack attacked the English position According to deVries this forced the premature cessation of the artillery bombardment out of fear of striking their own forces The Scots were not well protected by armour and great damage was visited upon them by the English archers and crossbowmen who were shooting from behind the protection of their wagon fort 2 62 French cavalry went in to support the Scottish infantry but were stopped by the archers and stakes At this point the English seeing that the French infantry were slow to join the Scots in the attack Pernoud quotes the Journal du siege d Orleans to the effect that the remaining French forces came on in a cowardly fashion and did not join up with the constable and the other foot soldiers decided to counterattack They struck the rear and flanks of the disorganized French Scottish forces and routed them 2 62 The convoy reformed and proceeded to supply the besieging English force The morale effect of the battle affected both sides There are two places called Rouvray in the region in question In his biography of Sir John Fastolf Stephen Cooper gives reasons the battle probably took place near Rouvray Sainte Croix rather than Rouvray Saint Denis Pernoud states that the combined French Scottish forces lost about 400 men including Stewart the leader of the Scots Among the wounded was Jean de Dunois known also as the Bastard of Orleans who barely escaped with his life and who would later play a crucial role along with Joan of Arc in the lifting of the siege of Orleans and the French Loire campaign which followed Aftermath and significance editWhile it is generally felt today that the Battle of the Herrings was lost by the French because of the failure to continue the artillery bombardment to its full effect such was not the view at the time at least in the besieged city of Orleans Within the city walls as can be seen from the passage in the Journal du siege the Count of Clermont was generally blamed for the disaster being considered a coward and held in disdain Soon thereafter Clermont together with the wounded Count Dunois left Orleans together with about 2000 soldiers 2 62 Morale within the city and among its leaders was at a low point so much so that consideration was given to surrendering the city The Battle of the Herrings was the most significant military action during the siege of Orleans from its inception in October 1428 until the appearance on the scene in May of the following year of Joan of Arc Even so it was to all appearances a rather minor engagement and were it not for the context in which it occurred would likely have been relegated to the merest of footnotes in military history or even forgotten altogether But not only was it part of one of the most famous siege actions in history the story also gained currency that it played a pivotal role in convincing Robert de Baudricourt in Vaucouleurs to accede to Joan s demand for support and safe conduct to Chinon For it was on the very day 12 February 1429 of the battle that Joan met with de Baudricourt for the final time According to the story recounted in several places for example in Sackville West Joan gave out the information that the Dauphin s arms had that day suffered a great reverse near Orleans When several days later news of the military setback near Rouvray did in fact reach Vaucouleurs de Baudricourt according to the story relented and agreed to sponsor her journey to the Dauphin in Chinon Joan finally left Vaucouleurs for Chinon on 23 February 1429 In popular culture editPolish fantasy writer Andrzej Sapkowski described the battle in his novel Lux perpetua The novel is part of the Hussite Trilogy which takes place in 15th century Silesia during the Hussite Wars The short description of the battle is not connected with the main plot Sir John Fastolf is shown as a comical figure who wins the battle thanks to rumours he may have heard about the Bohemian heretics and their commander Jan Zizka Fastolf feeling hopeless in the face of the enemy forms his wagons into a wagenburg and surprisingly wins The Battle of the Herrings also appears as a vignette in Robert Nye s novel Falstaff told through the eyes of the English commander himself See also editHundred Years War Siege of Orleans John Fastolf English claims to the French throne Cod WarsNotes edit Wavrin 1891 pp 162 164 5 a b c d e Devries Kelly 2011 Joan of Arc a military leader The History Press 2003 ISBN 978 0752460611 References editBarker J 2012 Conquest The English Kingdom of France 1417 1450 Harvard University Press ISBN 978 0 674 06560 4 DeVries K 1999 Joan of Arc A Military Leader Sutton Publishing pp 65 67 ISBN 978 0 7509 1805 3 Pernoud R Clin M 1998 1986 Joan of Arc her story New York St Martin s Griffin pp 228 31 ISBN 978 0 312 21442 5 Sackville West V 22 June 2001 1936 Saint Joan of Arc New York Grove Press ISBN 978 0 8021 3816 3 Cooper Stephen 20 September 2010 The Real Falstaff Sir John Fastolf and the Hundred Years War Pen amp Sword Military ISBN 978 1 84884 123 9 Wavrin J 1891 A Collection of the Chronicles and Ancient Histories of Great Britain Now Called England From A D 1422 to A D 1431 Vol 3 Translated by Edward L C P Hardy London HMSO OCLC 925498 External links edit nbsp Wikimedia Commons has media related to Battle of the Herrings Xenophon Group 21 December 1999 Battle of the Herrings Archived from the original on 25 September 2017 Retrieved 4 May 2008 48 04 N 1 44 E 48 067 N 1 733 E 48 067 1 733 Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Battle of the Herrings amp oldid 1177904771, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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