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Eighteen Visions

Eighteen Visions is an American metalcore band from Orange County, California, formed in October 1995. The band broke up in April 2007, less than a year after their major label debut was released through Epic and Trustkill Records. After over a decade of absence, the band reformed in 2017. They announced their sixth album, XVIII, would be released via their new label home at Rise Records.

Eighteen Visions
James Hart performing with Eighteen Visions in 2004
Background information
OriginOrange County, California, U.S.
Genres
Years active
  • 1995–2007
  • 2017–present
Labels
Members
  • James Hart
  • Keith Barney
  • Trevor Friedrich
  • Josh James
  • Matt Horwitz
  • Dan Smith
Past members

History edit

Beginnings, Yesterday Is Time Killed and Until the Ink Runs Out (1995–2000) edit

Eighteen Visions was founded in October 1995 by James Hart, Dave Peters, Billy Sisler, and Kenneth Floyd under the name "Macabre". The band wrote a bit of material and started to play shows, beginning at the "Koo's Cafe" in early 1996, in their local area. Soon after, Excessive Force's Jeff Boullt was added to the mix as a second guitarist, and in March, Sisler left the group and was replaced by Richie Taylor. Taylor only lasted a short while, and Javier Van Huss soon took over the bass duties. Later in the year, Boullt also left the band, and Brandan Schieppati was added to complete the group's first stable line-up.

In a 2017 interview, Hart explained that the band got the name Eighteen Visions from a lyric off the song "Slipping Through the Hands of God", though he could not recall the name of the song. The lyric stated "I depict eighteen visions for its demise". Hart explained that the number eighteen came from the number of the beast, as 6+6+6 = 18. Hart elaborated that at the time he was anti-religion and anti-Christianity, and as a 16 year old metalhead, was trying to write the most evil thing he could think of. He stated that the name holds no weight or depth towards the band or any of its members, but was "something that sounded super cool back in 1996."[4]

Their debut release, Lifeless was released on Life Sentence Records in 1997. Shortly after, Peters left the band to focus on playing with Throwdown (which Schieppati also played with), and Steve Parilla replaced him for the EP's tour. The first full-length album, Yesterday Is Time Killed was released by Cedargate Records (the label of Zac Phelps, who was at the time a temporary bassist in the band) in March 1999.[5] The band was brought to the attention Trustkill Records, which was still in its early beginnings. The label released the No Time for Love 7-inch in October 1999. Keith Barney, Schieppati's bandmate in Throwdown, then joined the band to replace Parilla. Ten months after the 7-inch, their second full-length Until the Ink Runs Out was released. It became one of the label's best-selling albums, which led to a lot of the band's earlier material getting bought out and going out of print.

In November 2000, it was announced that Eighteen Visions would be doing a split 7-inch vinyl with Poison the Well for Undecided Records.[6][7] The split for Undecided Records was to feature a Metallica cover from each of the bands as part of the record label's Crush 'Em All series, which had already seen a split by Shai Hulud and BoySetsFire released as Volume 1 in March 2000.[6] Poison the Well and Eighteen Visions were to be the third release in the series with a tentative release date for the summer of 2001.[8][9] In January 2001, the Crush 'Em All series switched from 7-inch vinyl to compact discs.[10] Due to complications with Trustkill Records the two bands were unable to recorded their songs and the split was shelved.[11] Javier was asked to leave the band after touring for Until the Ink Runs Out, and was told he would be replaced by Mick Morris of the band xClearx. Javier played two remaining shows with the band and went on to tour for Poison the Well.

The Best of and Vanity (2000–2004) edit

For their next album, The Best of Eighteen Visions, the band re-recorded some of their earlier material, some of which was out of print, with the addition of a new song, "Motionless and White". Trustkill and the band felt it would feel much more like a new record, rather than re-releasing the two previous albums on the label. The vinyl version was released in Europe through Sober Mind Records. Despite raw production where mistakes weren't always edited, the album was a vast improvement in production values. This would mark the beginning of the band's tentative approach to more melodic hardcore, rather than their older metalcore approach.

They went on to record Vanity in 2002, which, while still containing heavy breakdowns, metal riffs and odd time signatures, featured better production work, and bits of melodic vocals in nearly all of the songs, complete with hints at balladry with the songs "Gorgeous", an acoustic piece written and performed by then-drummer Ken Floyd, and "Love in Autumn", the album's closer. While the fanbase grew after this release, this was the last album to feature guitarist Brandan Schieppati, who left the band in order to handle full-time vocal duties in metalcore OC band Bleeding Through. Eighteen Visions went on to tour for Vanity as a four-piece. A video was made for "You Broke Like Glass", which played in heavy rotation on MTV2's Headbangers Ball.

Obsession (2004–2006) edit

 
Eighteen Visions poster as a four-piece band

After touring, they went into the studio to record Obsession with producer Mudrock. Material was equally written by Keith Barney and Ken Floyd, who not only played drums, but also played guitar on a fair number of songs. Dramatically changing styles, the album showcased a new sound that was much more accessible to a wider audience, featuring hard rock riffs, but also an arena rock feel to it, with less complex song structures and a much more diverse and melodic range of vocals.

The band then went on a worldwide tour as a supporting act for bands like HIM, Lostprophets and Killswitch Engage, with Ken Floyd switching to second guitar, and Jason Shrout (later replaced by Trevor Friedrich) being added to the band's line-up for all drumming duties. The songs "Waiting for the Heavens", "Tower of Snakes", and "I Let Go" were released as singles on United States and UK pressing and had videos made for them. The album went on to sell a disappointing 200,000 copies, which is twice what the previous record had sold, but was still not enough to break the band into the mainstream.

Obsession went on to be the band's last album for Trustkill Records, after they signed a contract with major label Epic Records for their next effort. Obsession would become Eighteen Visions's most successful album and would give them their new sort of depressive/apathetic image, which would prove hard to be rid of. Around that time, they also recorded a cover of Marilyn Manson’s “The Beautiful People” for the compilation album Punk Goes 90's.

Eighteen Visions and mainstream success (2006–2007) edit

Now a solidified five-piece band, Eighteen Visions went into pre-production with producer Machine and 32 demos to work on. On July 18, 2006, they released their self-titled major label debut, which featured slick production, anthemic choruses à la Def Leppard, dark industrial electronic programming and all-melodic vocals reminiscent of the then-current hard rock trend successfully embraced by fellow OC band Avenged Sevenfold. Although a video and a promotional ad campaign had been made for the radio friendly song "Tonightless" (which was a leftover from the previous album writing session), the band decided to scrap it all in order to go with the more hard-rocking "Victim", supposedly against the record label's will. Still, a video was made for "Victim", with little effort from Epic to promote it, even though the song was featured in the WWE Vengeance (2006) pay-per-view event.

Witnessing album sales not taking off and dropping off the Billboard 200 after only one week, the band embarked a variety of tours to promote the record, as a supporting act again. They played opening slots for Avenged Sevenfold, Coheed and Cambria, Hinder, and Bullet for My Valentine, among others.

Even though the catchy power ballad "Broken Hearted" was released to radio stations and managed to get some airplay, no video was made, and the album ended up as a commercial flop. Even though the number of total sales has not been made official, it is widely rumored to have ended below the 100k bar.

Break-up (2007) edit

In 2007, while still playing a few shows in Australia and posting daily MySpace bulletins asking fans to request "Broken Hearted" on the radio, band coverage, press and blog updates started decreasing considerably, leading fans to believe the band had been dropped by Epic Records, though no official word on that has been released. This also led to break-up rumors, which were soon confirmed. On April 9, 2007, bassist Mick Morris confirmed the band's breakup on MySpace through this statement:

"After several years of touring and quite a few album releases we have decided that it is time to go our separate ways. We have been a band for a very long time and feel good about everything we were able to accomplish. At this point in our lives and our careers we feel its time to move on to something fresh and new. Whether it be music, touring or just being at home to live and enjoy life. We would like to thank all of our fans, friends and families for all of the great support over the years. We would also like to thank all of the bands we have shared the stage with and everyone who has ever worked with the band, opened a door or reached out a hand. We will be playing our final two shows in April. One in San Diego and one in Orange County. Come rock with us one more time."[12][13]

While the break-up might have appeared somewhat abrupt, frontman James Hart stated on his MySpace blog that this was not the case on July 13, 2007: "18V had been a band for 10+ years, [...] it just got to the point where we all had different goals and ideas for the band on a musical and touring basis. We all felt it was time to move on to something fresh and new."

Post-breakup (2007–2017) edit

Trevor Friedrich was hired by Eleven Seven recording artist Sixx:A.M. for the "Accidents Can Happen" video. He is now the drummer in the band Never Enough with Eighteen Visions' Keith Barney on guitar. He also drums for the industrial acts Imperative Reaction and Combichrist. He is currently the singer of The Witch Was Right. He also formed a band called Monkeys Are Machine Guns. Trevor was also the drummer for Suffer Well with Bleeding Through's Brandan Schieppati on vocals.

Keith Barney also recently joined hardcore band Monument to Thieves. He also joined California hardcore band Love Thyne just before they officially disbanded. He is currently working as a graphic designer.

Ken Floyd is currently working on a new wave band called Hi-Deaf. He was touring guitarist for Saosin in 2010.

Mick Morris joined Hatebreed on tour, doing tech work. He also launched Dethless Clothing, held a popular weekly updated eBay store, and modeled for several clothing lines. Morris stated that he would be willing to have an Eighteen Visions reunion if the other members were willing to. This never came to fruition, however, as Morris died on June 3, 2013, almost four years before the actual reunion he wished for.[14][15]

Hart has been working with former Nixons frontman Zac Maloy on a project named Burn Halo. Maloy's previous collaborations include songwriting credits for Chris Daughtry and Bowling for Soup, among others. Keith Barney and Avenged Sevenfold lead guitarist Synyster Gates appear to have also contributed to the project, which has evolved from a solo project into a full band. Burn Halo signed to Island Records, but after the album was completed in early 2008, Island elected not to release Burn Halos debut, leaving Hart with the tough job of finding a new home for his project. Burn Halo's manager, Bret Bair, formed his own label through Warner Music Group, Rawkhead Rekords, to release the record. Burn Halo played their first ever live show, opening for Avenged Sevenfold on December 9, 2008, at Ram's Head Live in Baltimore, Maryland. The band released their debut record on March 31, 2009. It also released full-length albums in 2011 and 2015 before amicably parting ways with Hart who allowed the other members to use the band's name and the entire music catalog for live shows.[16]

Reunion, XVIII, and other releases (2017–present) edit

On February 9, 2017, an official Instagram account of the band was launched, with James Hart, Keith Barney, and Trevor Friedrich being tagged on the first picture that contained the message "the countdown begins...". All three members uploaded the same picture onto their respective private accounts as well.[17] The band have since shared some footage of them working in the studio, along with a 15-second long clip of a new song.[18] Mick Kenney was chosen by the band to do production, mixing, and mastering of the comeback record.[19]

On April 20, 2017, ten years from the day of the farewell live performance, the band confirmed the details surrounding their new album, XVIII, which would be released on June 2, 2017, via their new label home at Rise Records, and released a full stream and music video for the album's first single, "Oath". On May 9, 2017, "Crucified", the second single off the new record, was released as a lyric video on YouTube. Both songs were under two minutes in length and marked the return of heavy screaming as a prominent element of the band's sound.[20] The band also confirmed that one of the album's tracks, "Live Again", is a tribute to Mick Morris.[21] On May 25, 2017, "The Disease, the Decline, and Wasted Time", the third single off XVIII, was released.[22]

In June 2017, it was revealed that a founding member, guitarist Ken Floyd, could not take part in the reunion due to his full-time job as a tour manager for Zedd. It was also reported that the band decided not to replace the late Mick Morris with any other bass players, primarily out of respect for him. Instead, his bass tracks will be used at live shows for the songs released prior to 2017.[23] Keith Barney, however, ruled out the possibility of an extensive touring in the near future due to full-time jobs that band members have.[2]

XVIII was released as planned on June 2, 2017. It is the first album since 2002's Vanity to feature movie quotes at the beginning of some songs.[24] A music video for the song "Live Again" was also released on the same day.[25]

On August 28, 2017, Josh James was announced as an official member of the band.[26]

In September 2017, it was revealed that the band contemplated reunion as early as 2010 and, later on, in 2013. However, the idea was eventually called off due to various reasons. It was also stated that the track "The Disease, the Decline, and Wasted Time" was written back then.[27]

On July 10, 2019, The band posted a new photo from a recording studio, leading many to believe a new album was being worked on.[28][29] On January 29, 2020, the band was announced as one of the performers for Furnace Fest 2020.[30] On September 8, 2020, the band announced their new EP "Inferno", and debuted their new song "Sink". The new album is said to be inspired by Dante Alighieri's Divine Comedy.[31]

In June 2021, Eighteen Visions put out two covers; "Them Bones" by Alice In Chains and "D.T.O." by Vision of Disorder. Those covers are part of a 90s rock cover album, 1996, surprise-released on July 9, 2021.[32]

On July 5, 2022, the band released a new recording of their album Vanity in support of the 20th anniversary of the original album.[33]

On June 1, 2023, the band released a new single, "Rot of Humanity", and noted on social media there was "so much more to come...".[34] They released another single, "Reality Killer", on July 1, 2023.[35]

Legacy and influence edit

In 2011, in an article, "Stealing 18 Visions' ideas: A Book by the 2011 Metalcore Scene", MetalSucks praised the band as pioneers of the metalcore and deathcore sound, as well as one of, if not the first, metalcore band to incorporate clean vocals. The article concluded, "without them, there would be no keyboards in metalcore, no screaming mixed with clean vocals, no tights pants, and no fancy hair in hardcore. There would be no Rise Records, no Attack Attack! and certainly no Avenged Sevenfold or Escape the Fate."[36] Other sources have regarded as being influential on the development of the metalcore genre as well as on contemporary metalcore bands.[37][38] In 2020, Loudwire ranked the band's 2001 release, Until the Ink Runs Out, at 21 on its list of the 25 best metalcore albums of all time.[39]

In addition to establishing a unique sound, the band was also one of the first metalcore bands to establish a unique image. They broke from mid-1990s hardcore trends by donning high-end attire and styled hair on stage.[citation needed] As a result of this the term "fashioncore" was often applied to band in a derogatory manner[citation needed] (Hart noted that he found this comical).[citation needed] Hart explained the band sought to differentiate itself via its appearance to stand out and leave an impression on fans.[citation needed] Before the band started touring, Floyd and Hart worked at Banana Republic, allowing them to acquire luxury clothing at a discount price.[citation needed] Hart's exposure to fashion was furthered by his employment as a hair stylist [40] (former bassist Javier Van Huss had also gone through the hair academy with Hart).[citation needed] This allowed the band to adopt a high-end look not present in the scene at the time.[4]

Band members edit

Timeline

Discography edit

Studio albums

References edit

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This article needs additional citations for verification Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources Unsourced material may be challenged and removed Find sources Eighteen Visions news newspapers books scholar JSTOR October 2020 Learn how and when to remove this message Eighteen Visions is an American metalcore band from Orange County California formed in October 1995 The band broke up in April 2007 less than a year after their major label debut was released through Epic and Trustkill Records After over a decade of absence the band reformed in 2017 They announced their sixth album XVIII would be released via their new label home at Rise Records Eighteen VisionsJames Hart performing with Eighteen Visions in 2004Background informationOriginOrange County California U S GenresMetalcore 1 alternative rock 1 post hardcore 2 hardcore punk 3 Years active1995 2007 2017 presentLabelsCedargate Epic Good Life Life Sentence Trustkill Rise Sober Mind UndecidedMembersJames Hart Keith Barney Trevor Friedrich Josh James Matt Horwitz Dan SmithPast membersKen Floyd Dave Peters Billy Sisler Jeff Boullt Richie Taylor Javier Van Huss Brandan Schieppati Steve Parilla Tyler Snider Zachary Phelps Mick Morris Jason Shrout Contents 1 History 1 1 Beginnings Yesterday Is Time Killed and Until the Ink Runs Out 1995 2000 1 2 The Best of and Vanity 2000 2004 1 3 Obsession 2004 2006 1 4 Eighteen Visions and mainstream success 2006 2007 1 5 Break up 2007 1 6 Post breakup 2007 2017 1 7 Reunion XVIII and other releases 2017 present 2 Legacy and influence 3 Band members 4 Discography 5 References 6 External linksHistory editBeginnings Yesterday Is Time Killed and Until the Ink Runs Out 1995 2000 edit Eighteen Visions was founded in October 1995 by James Hart Dave Peters Billy Sisler and Kenneth Floyd under the name Macabre The band wrote a bit of material and started to play shows beginning at the Koo s Cafe in early 1996 in their local area Soon after Excessive Force s Jeff Boullt was added to the mix as a second guitarist and in March Sisler left the group and was replaced by Richie Taylor Taylor only lasted a short while and Javier Van Huss soon took over the bass duties Later in the year Boullt also left the band and Brandan Schieppati was added to complete the group s first stable line up In a 2017 interview Hart explained that the band got the name Eighteen Visions from a lyric off the song Slipping Through the Hands of God though he could not recall the name of the song The lyric stated I depict eighteen visions for its demise Hart explained that the number eighteen came from the number of the beast as 6 6 6 18 Hart elaborated that at the time he was anti religion and anti Christianity and as a 16 year old metalhead was trying to write the most evil thing he could think of He stated that the name holds no weight or depth towards the band or any of its members but was something that sounded super cool back in 1996 4 Their debut release Lifeless was released on Life Sentence Records in 1997 Shortly after Peters left the band to focus on playing with Throwdown which Schieppati also played with and Steve Parilla replaced him for the EP s tour The first full length album Yesterday Is Time Killed was released by Cedargate Records the label of Zac Phelps who was at the time a temporary bassist in the band in March 1999 5 The band was brought to the attention Trustkill Records which was still in its early beginnings The label released the No Time for Love 7 inch in October 1999 Keith Barney Schieppati s bandmate in Throwdown then joined the band to replace Parilla Ten months after the 7 inch their second full length Until the Ink Runs Out was released It became one of the label s best selling albums which led to a lot of the band s earlier material getting bought out and going out of print In November 2000 it was announced that Eighteen Visions would be doing a split 7 inch vinyl with Poison the Well for Undecided Records 6 7 The split for Undecided Records was to feature a Metallica cover from each of the bands as part of the record label s Crush Em All series which had already seen a split by Shai Hulud and BoySetsFire released as Volume 1 in March 2000 6 Poison the Well and Eighteen Visions were to be the third release in the series with a tentative release date for the summer of 2001 8 9 In January 2001 the Crush Em All series switched from 7 inch vinyl to compact discs 10 Due to complications with Trustkill Records the two bands were unable to recorded their songs and the split was shelved 11 Javier was asked to leave the band after touring for Until the Ink Runs Out and was told he would be replaced by Mick Morris of the band xClearx Javier played two remaining shows with the band and went on to tour for Poison the Well The Best of and Vanity 2000 2004 edit For their next album The Best of Eighteen Visions the band re recorded some of their earlier material some of which was out of print with the addition of a new song Motionless and White Trustkill and the band felt it would feel much more like a new record rather than re releasing the two previous albums on the label The vinyl version was released in Europe through Sober Mind Records Despite raw production where mistakes weren t always edited the album was a vast improvement in production values This would mark the beginning of the band s tentative approach to more melodic hardcore rather than their older metalcore approach They went on to record Vanity in 2002 which while still containing heavy breakdowns metal riffs and odd time signatures featured better production work and bits of melodic vocals in nearly all of the songs complete with hints at balladry with the songs Gorgeous an acoustic piece written and performed by then drummer Ken Floyd and Love in Autumn the album s closer While the fanbase grew after this release this was the last album to feature guitarist Brandan Schieppati who left the band in order to handle full time vocal duties in metalcore OC band Bleeding Through Eighteen Visions went on to tour for Vanity as a four piece A video was made for You Broke Like Glass which played in heavy rotation on MTV2 s Headbangers Ball Obsession 2004 2006 edit nbsp Eighteen Visions poster as a four piece band After touring they went into the studio to record Obsession with producer Mudrock Material was equally written by Keith Barney and Ken Floyd who not only played drums but also played guitar on a fair number of songs Dramatically changing styles the album showcased a new sound that was much more accessible to a wider audience featuring hard rock riffs but also an arena rock feel to it with less complex song structures and a much more diverse and melodic range of vocals The band then went on a worldwide tour as a supporting act for bands like HIM Lostprophets and Killswitch Engage with Ken Floyd switching to second guitar and Jason Shrout later replaced by Trevor Friedrich being added to the band s line up for all drumming duties The songs Waiting for the Heavens Tower of Snakes and I Let Go were released as singles on United States and UK pressing and had videos made for them The album went on to sell a disappointing 200 000 copies which is twice what the previous record had sold but was still not enough to break the band into the mainstream Obsession went on to be the band s last album for Trustkill Records after they signed a contract with major label Epic Records for their next effort Obsession would become Eighteen Visions s most successful album and would give them their new sort of depressive apathetic image which would prove hard to be rid of Around that time they also recorded a cover of Marilyn Manson s The Beautiful People for the compilation album Punk Goes 90 s Eighteen Visions and mainstream success 2006 2007 edit Now a solidified five piece band Eighteen Visions went into pre production with producer Machine and 32 demos to work on On July 18 2006 they released their self titled major label debut which featured slick production anthemic choruses a la Def Leppard dark industrial electronic programming and all melodic vocals reminiscent of the then current hard rock trend successfully embraced by fellow OC band Avenged Sevenfold Although a video and a promotional ad campaign had been made for the radio friendly song Tonightless which was a leftover from the previous album writing session the band decided to scrap it all in order to go with the more hard rocking Victim supposedly against the record label s will Still a video was made for Victim with little effort from Epic to promote it even though the song was featured in the WWE Vengeance 2006 pay per view event Witnessing album sales not taking off and dropping off the Billboard 200 after only one week the band embarked a variety of tours to promote the record as a supporting act again They played opening slots for Avenged Sevenfold Coheed and Cambria Hinder and Bullet for My Valentine among others Even though the catchy power ballad Broken Hearted was released to radio stations and managed to get some airplay no video was made and the album ended up as a commercial flop Even though the number of total sales has not been made official it is widely rumored to have ended below the 100k bar Break up 2007 edit In 2007 while still playing a few shows in Australia and posting daily MySpace bulletins asking fans to request Broken Hearted on the radio band coverage press and blog updates started decreasing considerably leading fans to believe the band had been dropped by Epic Records though no official word on that has been released This also led to break up rumors which were soon confirmed On April 9 2007 bassist Mick Morris confirmed the band s breakup on MySpace through this statement After several years of touring and quite a few album releases we have decided that it is time to go our separate ways We have been a band for a very long time and feel good about everything we were able to accomplish At this point in our lives and our careers we feel its time to move on to something fresh and new Whether it be music touring or just being at home to live and enjoy life We would like to thank all of our fans friends and families for all of the great support over the years We would also like to thank all of the bands we have shared the stage with and everyone who has ever worked with the band opened a door or reached out a hand We will be playing our final two shows in April One in San Diego and one in Orange County Come rock with us one more time 12 13 While the break up might have appeared somewhat abrupt frontman James Hart stated on his MySpace blog that this was not the case on July 13 2007 18V had been a band for 10 years it just got to the point where we all had different goals and ideas for the band on a musical and touring basis We all felt it was time to move on to something fresh and new Post breakup 2007 2017 edit Trevor Friedrich was hired by Eleven Seven recording artist Sixx A M for the Accidents Can Happen video He is now the drummer in the band Never Enough with Eighteen Visions Keith Barney on guitar He also drums for the industrial acts Imperative Reaction and Combichrist He is currently the singer of The Witch Was Right He also formed a band called Monkeys Are Machine Guns Trevor was also the drummer for Suffer Well with Bleeding Through s Brandan Schieppati on vocals Keith Barney also recently joined hardcore band Monument to Thieves He also joined California hardcore band Love Thyne just before they officially disbanded He is currently working as a graphic designer Ken Floyd is currently working on a new wave band called Hi Deaf He was touring guitarist for Saosin in 2010 Mick Morris joined Hatebreed on tour doing tech work He also launched Dethless Clothing held a popular weekly updated eBay store and modeled for several clothing lines Morris stated that he would be willing to have an Eighteen Visions reunion if the other members were willing to This never came to fruition however as Morris died on June 3 2013 almost four years before the actual reunion he wished for 14 15 Hart has been working with former Nixons frontman Zac Maloy on a project named Burn Halo Maloy s previous collaborations include songwriting credits for Chris Daughtry and Bowling for Soup among others Keith Barney and Avenged Sevenfold lead guitarist Synyster Gates appear to have also contributed to the project which has evolved from a solo project into a full band Burn Halo signed to Island Records but after the album was completed in early 2008 Island elected not to release Burn Halos debut leaving Hart with the tough job of finding a new home for his project Burn Halo s manager Bret Bair formed his own label through Warner Music Group Rawkhead Rekords to release the record Burn Halo played their first ever live show opening for Avenged Sevenfold on December 9 2008 at Ram s Head Live in Baltimore Maryland The band released their debut record on March 31 2009 It also released full length albums in 2011 and 2015 before amicably parting ways with Hart who allowed the other members to use the band s name and the entire music catalog for live shows 16 Reunion XVIII and other releases 2017 present edit On February 9 2017 an official Instagram account of the band was launched with James Hart Keith Barney and Trevor Friedrich being tagged on the first picture that contained the message the countdown begins All three members uploaded the same picture onto their respective private accounts as well 17 The band have since shared some footage of them working in the studio along with a 15 second long clip of a new song 18 Mick Kenney was chosen by the band to do production mixing and mastering of the comeback record 19 On April 20 2017 ten years from the day of the farewell live performance the band confirmed the details surrounding their new album XVIII which would be released on June 2 2017 via their new label home at Rise Records and released a full stream and music video for the album s first single Oath On May 9 2017 Crucified the second single off the new record was released as a lyric video on YouTube Both songs were under two minutes in length and marked the return of heavy screaming as a prominent element of the band s sound 20 The band also confirmed that one of the album s tracks Live Again is a tribute to Mick Morris 21 On May 25 2017 The Disease the Decline and Wasted Time the third single off XVIII was released 22 In June 2017 it was revealed that a founding member guitarist Ken Floyd could not take part in the reunion due to his full time job as a tour manager for Zedd It was also reported that the band decided not to replace the late Mick Morris with any other bass players primarily out of respect for him Instead his bass tracks will be used at live shows for the songs released prior to 2017 23 Keith Barney however ruled out the possibility of an extensive touring in the near future due to full time jobs that band members have 2 XVIII was released as planned on June 2 2017 It is the first album since 2002 s Vanity to feature movie quotes at the beginning of some songs 24 A music video for the song Live Again was also released on the same day 25 On August 28 2017 Josh James was announced as an official member of the band 26 In September 2017 it was revealed that the band contemplated reunion as early as 2010 and later on in 2013 However the idea was eventually called off due to various reasons It was also stated that the track The Disease the Decline and Wasted Time was written back then 27 On July 10 2019 The band posted a new photo from a recording studio leading many to believe a new album was being worked on 28 29 On January 29 2020 the band was announced as one of the performers for Furnace Fest 2020 30 On September 8 2020 the band announced their new EP Inferno and debuted their new song Sink The new album is said to be inspired by Dante Alighieri s Divine Comedy 31 In June 2021 Eighteen Visions put out two covers Them Bones by Alice In Chains and D T O by Vision of Disorder Those covers are part of a 90s rock cover album 1996 surprise released on July 9 2021 32 On July 5 2022 the band released a new recording of their album Vanity in support of the 20th anniversary of the original album 33 On June 1 2023 the band released a new single Rot of Humanity and noted on social media there was so much more to come 34 They released another single Reality Killer on July 1 2023 35 Legacy and influence editIn 2011 in an article Stealing 18 Visions ideas A Book by the 2011 Metalcore Scene MetalSucks praised the band as pioneers of the metalcore and deathcore sound as well as one of if not the first metalcore band to incorporate clean vocals The article concluded without them there would be no keyboards in metalcore no screaming mixed with clean vocals no tights pants and no fancy hair in hardcore There would be no Rise Records no Attack Attack and certainly no Avenged Sevenfold or Escape the Fate 36 Other sources have regarded as being influential on the development of the metalcore genre as well as on contemporary metalcore bands 37 38 In 2020 Loudwire ranked the band s 2001 release Until the Ink Runs Out at 21 on its list of the 25 best metalcore albums of all time 39 In addition to establishing a unique sound the band was also one of the first metalcore bands to establish a unique image They broke from mid 1990s hardcore trends by donning high end attire and styled hair on stage citation needed As a result of this the term fashioncore was often applied to band in a derogatory manner citation needed Hart noted that he found this comical citation needed Hart explained the band sought to differentiate itself via its appearance to stand out and leave an impression on fans citation needed Before the band started touring Floyd and Hart worked at Banana Republic allowing them to acquire luxury clothing at a discount price citation needed Hart s exposure to fashion was furthered by his employment as a hair stylist 40 former bassist Javier Van Huss had also gone through the hair academy with Hart citation needed This allowed the band to adopt a high end look not present in the scene at the time 4 Band members editCurrent members James Hart lead vocals 1995 2007 2017 present Keith Barney guitars keyboards piano programming backing vocals 2000 2007 2017 present bass 2017 2023 Josh James guitars bass backing vocals 2017 present touring 2017 Matt Horwitz drums 2023 present touring 2022 Dan Smith bass 2023 present Touring musicians Scott Danough guitar 2001 Former members Ken Floyd drums percussion 1995 2003 guitars 2003 2007 keyboards piano programming backing vocals 1995 2007 Dave Peters guitars vocals 1995 1998 Steve Parilla guitars backing vocals 1998 1999 Jeff Boullt guitars backing vocals 1996 1997 Brandan Schieppati guitars vocals 1997 2002 Billy Sisler bass backing vocals 1995 1996 Richie Taylor bass backing vocals 1996 Javier Van Huss bass keyboards piano programming backing vocals 1996 1997 1997 2000 Zachary Phelps bass backing vocals 1997 Mick Morris bass backing vocals 2000 2007 died 2013 Jason Shrout drums percussion backing vocals 2003 2004 Trevor Friedrich drums percussion backing vocals 2004 2007 2017 2022 TimelineDiscography editMain article Eighteen Visions discography Studio albums Yesterday Is Time Killed 1999 Until the Ink Runs Out 2000 The Best of Eighteen Visions 2001 Vanity 2002 Obsession 2004 Eighteen Visions 2006 XVIII 2017 1996 2021 References edit a b Eighteen Visions Metal Kingdom Retrieved June 16 2023 a b Ryan Eran May 31 2017 Post Hardcore Heavyweights Eighteen Visions Rise Again ocweekly com Archived from the original on June 11 2017 Retrieved June 21 2017 Orange County hardcore band Eighteen Visions makes its mighty return with XVIII May 29 2017 a b Todd Shane September 4 2017 Lead Singer Syndrome James Hart Eighteen Visions Burn Halo Lead Singer Syndrome Podcast Jabber Jaw Media Retrieved April 24 2021 Julien Alexandre September 15 2014 Cedargate Records Interview Abridged Pause Blog Archived from the original on September 17 2014 Retrieved January 20 2024 a b Poison The Well amp their splits lambgoat com Retrieved February 21 2021 Walls Of Jericho etc CDEP s Lambgoat January 19 2001 Archived from the original on May 27 2013 Retrieved March 29 2021 UNDECIDED RECORDS NEWS March 5 2001 Archived from the original on March 5 2001 Retrieved February 21 2021 UNDECIDED RECORDS NEWS May 1 2001 Archived from the original on May 1 2001 Retrieved February 21 2021 UNDECIDED RECORDS NEWS January 28 2001 Archived from the original on January 28 2001 Retrieved February 21 2021 Poison the Well cover Metallica YouTube Archived from the original on December 12 2021 Eighteen Visions breaks up Lambgoat com April 9 2007 EIGHTEEN VISIONS Calls It Quits Blabbermouth net April 9 2007 Archived from the original on June 6 2011 Former EIGHTEEN VISIONS Bassist Dies Blabbermouth net June 3 2013 Retrieved June 3 2013 Ex Eighteen Visions Ex Bleeding Through Bassist Mick Morris is Dead MetalSucks June 3 2013 Retrieved June 3 2013 The Phoenix Report with Jack Connor October 6 2016 TPR 30 James Hart 10 06 2016 Archived from the original on December 12 2021 Retrieved June 21 2017 via YouTube Eighteen Visions 18v official Instagram photos and videos www instagram com Retrieved June 21 2017 NEWS Eighteen Visions tease clips from upcoming sixth album deadpress co uk Retrieved June 21 2017 permanent dead link mick kenney mick kenney Archived from the original on August 15 2021 Retrieved June 21 2017 Eighteen Visions Crucified Exclusive Song Premiere Loudwire May 9 2017 Retrieved June 21 2017 NEWS Eighteen Visions detail new album XVIII out June 2nd 2017 deadpress co uk Archived from the original on May 18 2017 Retrieved June 21 2017 riserecords May 27 2017 Eighteen Visions The Disease The Decline and Wasted Time Archived from the original on December 12 2021 Retrieved June 21 2017 via YouTube Inside the Reunion of Metalcore Pioneers Eighteen Visions exclaim ca Retrieved June 21 2017 Eighteen Visions Keith Barney We re Definitely Back Together Interview Loudwire June 2017 Retrieved June 21 2017 riserecords June 2 2017 Eighteen Visions Live Again Official Music Video Archived from the original on December 12 2021 Retrieved June 21 2017 via YouTube Eighteen Visions on Instagram Congratulations to joshjamesxxx who got married yesterday Our collective wedding gift was officially welcoming him as a permanent Instagram Archived from the original on December 24 2021 Retrieved April 22 2018 Lead Singer Syndrome on Instagram Great episode this week with hartagram of 18v official We talk straight edge in his 30s major label experiences the Chicago Cubs Instagram Archived from the original on December 24 2021 Retrieved April 22 2018 Eighteen Visions 的 Twitter Sup Archived from the original on October 31 2019 Retrieved August 26 2019 Eighteen Visions Were Back in the Studio Loudwire July 10 2019 FurnaceFest January 29 2020 1 2 3 4 more Tweet via Twitter EIGHTEEN VISIONS Debut First New Track from Upcoming EP Inferno lambgoat com Eighteen Visions surprise release new covers album 1996 lambgoat com July 9 2021 Retrieved July 22 2021 EIGHTEEN VISIONS Record and Release New Version of Vanity Album lambgoat com Retrieved July 31 2022 Eighteen Visions Premiere New Single Rot Of Humanity June 1 2023 Retrieved July 3 2023 Eighteen Visions Debut New Single Reality Killer July 1 2023 Retrieved July 3 2023 Stealing 18 Visions Ideas A Book By the 2011 Metalcore Scene January 21 2011 Retrieved April 24 2021 Eighteen Visions XVIII June 14 2021 Retrieved April 24 2021 Eighteen Visions Will be Missed By Me At Least April 10 2007 Retrieved April 24 2021 Best Metalcore Albums of All Time Loudwire May 25 2020 Retrieved April 24 2021 Eighteen Visions James Hart May 26 2022 Retrieved April 24 2021 permanent dead link 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