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SNCF Class 241P

The SNCF 241.P is a 4-8-2 'Mountain' type express passenger steam locomotive that ran on the Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français, (French National Railways) from 1948 until 1973. Introduced as large scale electrification of the SNCF was already underway, they were the last new class of passenger steam locomotives in France.

SNCF 241.P
Preserved 241.P.17
Type and origin
Power typesteam
BuilderSchneider et Cie, Le Creusot
Serial number4903–4937
Build dateMay 1948 – June 1952
Specifications
Configuration:
 • Whyte4-8-2
 • UIC2′D1′ h4v
Leading dia.1,000 mm (39.37 in)
Driver dia.2,000 mm (78.74 in)
Trailing dia.1,330 mm (52.36 in)
Length27.117 m (89 ft 0 in)
Adhesive weight81.6 t (80.3 long tons; 89.9 short tons)
Loco weight131.4 t (129.3 long tons; 144.8 short tons)
Tender weight81.6 t (80.3 long tons; 89.9 short tons)
Total weight215.4 t (212.0 long tons; 237.4 short tons)
Fuel capacity12 t (11.8 long tons; 13.2 short tons) coal
Water cap.34,050 L (7,490 imp gal; 9,000 US gal)
Firebox:
 • Grate area5.052 m2 (54.38 sq ft)
Boiler pressure20 kg/cm2 (1.96 MPa; 284 psi)
Heating surface244.57 m2 (2,632.5 sq ft)
Cylinders4 (2 H.P., 2 L.P.)
High-pressure cylinder446 mm × 650 mm (17.56 in × 25.59 in)
Low-pressure cylinder674 mm × 700 mm (26.54 in × 27.56 in)
Performance figures
Maximum speed120 km/h (75 mph) max. service speed
Power output4,000 hp (3,000 kW)
Tractive effort202.66 kN (45,560 lbf)
Career
Number in class35

History edit

In 1944, SNCF reviewed its predicted postwar traffic requirements and determined a requirement for a locomotive capable of hauling passenger trains of 700–800 tonnes at 120 km/h (75 mph), and capable of climbing gradients of 1 in 125 (8‰).

A prototype 4-8-2 four cylinder compound locomotive, the 241.C.1, had been built by Schneider et Cie. in 1930 for the former Chemins de fer de Paris à Lyon et à la Méditerranée (PLM). This locomotive was utilised as the basis for the new class, but with some key design changes including the addition of an automatic stoker, strengthened frames, and boiler modifications.[1]

Production edit

35 locomotives were built by Schneider et Cie., of Le Creusot between 1948 and 1952.[1]

Service life edit

The class was initially assigned to the line between Paris and Marseilles, hauling services including the famous Le Mistral expresses, but within a few years they were displaced by electrification. Most of the class was then transferred to the Nord, l'Est and l'Ouest regions. For over ten years they managed the traffic on the line west of Le Mans, including the 411 km (255.4 mi) line to Brest and 410 km (254.8 mi) line to Quimper. They hauled trains of up to 16 coaches, weighing over 800 tons.[1]

The 241.P class were allocated to the following depots:

Although powerful, the class was not without its problems. The frames, lightly constructed to avoid excessive axle load, were not able to handle the power of the cylinders and flexing of the frame under load led to problems such as hot axle boxes.[2] The class also suffered from leaking boiler tubes after passing over points, which necessitated structural reinforcement.[3]

 
241.P.17 at Nantes station during the class's last regular summer of operation, August 1969.

The class was withdrawn progressively from service from 1965 for 241.P.1 to 1973 for 241.P.16. Their last regular work, on the Le Mans to Nantes route, ended in early 1970. The class was nicknamed the grosses P to distinguish them from the 141.P Class, which were called the petites P.

Preservation edit

 
241.P.17 at Paris Gare de l'Est, 8 May 2010

Four 241.Ps have been preserved:

  • 241.P.9, withdrawn in 1973 and placed in storage in Guîtres, was transferred from Bordeaux to Toulouse on 7 December 2008 and is the subject of a restoration project by AAATV-MP
  • 241.P.16, withdrawn in 1973, is on display at the Cité du train (National Railway Museum of France) in Mulhouse
  • 241.P.17, preserved at Le Creusot and restored to working operation in April 2006, is authorised to run on SNCF tracks with passengers, after a 13-year restoration project and since then travel across France and sometimes Switzerland few times a year. It is classed as a Monument historique
  • 241.P.30, withdrawn in 1969 and transferred to the French-Swiss border town of Vallorbe for public display, was transferred again in 1997 to Saint-Sulpice, Neuchâtel, Switzerland, and into the care of the Vapeur Val-de-Travers group for static preservation[4] In 2019 the locomotive was acquired by AJECTA and transported to Longueville.[5]

References edit

 
A scale model of a 241.P locomotive
  1. ^ a b c "241P Mountain Pacific". .joueftrains.com. Retrieved April 21, 2009.
  2. ^ "The French National Railway Museum, Mulhouse". martynbane.co.uk. Retrieved April 21, 2009.
  3. ^ "S.N.C.F.'s 4 8 2, 241 P 1 to 30 (1948-1952) pictures". chapelon.net. Retrieved April 21, 2009.
  4. ^ "241 P 30 VVT Vapeur Val-de-Travers St.Sulpice Neuchatel Neuenburg Museumsbahn". www.vvt.ch. Retrieved April 26, 2009.
  5. ^ "Le projet 241P30". Retrieved September 21, 2022.

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The SNCF 241 P is a 4 8 2 Mountain type express passenger steam locomotive that ran on the Societe Nationale des Chemins de fer Francais French National Railways from 1948 until 1973 Introduced as large scale electrification of the SNCF was already underway they were the last new class of passenger steam locomotives in France SNCF 241 PPreserved 241 P 17Type and originPower typesteamBuilderSchneider et Cie Le CreusotSerial number4903 4937Build dateMay 1948 June 1952SpecificationsConfiguration Whyte4 8 2 UIC2 D1 h4vLeading dia 1 000 mm 39 37 in Driver dia 2 000 mm 78 74 in Trailing dia 1 330 mm 52 36 in Length27 117 m 89 ft 0 in Adhesive weight81 6 t 80 3 long tons 89 9 short tons Loco weight131 4 t 129 3 long tons 144 8 short tons Tender weight81 6 t 80 3 long tons 89 9 short tons Total weight215 4 t 212 0 long tons 237 4 short tons Fuel capacity12 t 11 8 long tons 13 2 short tons coalWater cap 34 050 L 7 490 imp gal 9 000 US gal Firebox Grate area5 052 m2 54 38 sq ft Boiler pressure20 kg cm2 1 96 MPa 284 psi Heating surface244 57 m2 2 632 5 sq ft Cylinders4 2 H P 2 L P High pressure cylinder446 mm 650 mm 17 56 in 25 59 in Low pressure cylinder674 mm 700 mm 26 54 in 27 56 in Performance figuresMaximum speed120 km h 75 mph max service speedPower output4 000 hp 3 000 kW Tractive effort202 66 kN 45 560 lbf CareerNumber in class35 Contents 1 History 1 1 Production 1 2 Service life 1 3 Preservation 2 ReferencesHistory editIn 1944 SNCF reviewed its predicted postwar traffic requirements and determined a requirement for a locomotive capable of hauling passenger trains of 700 800 tonnes at 120 km h 75 mph and capable of climbing gradients of 1 in 125 8 A prototype 4 8 2 four cylinder compound locomotive the 241 C 1 had been built by Schneider et Cie in 1930 for the former Chemins de fer de Paris a Lyon et a la Mediterranee PLM This locomotive was utilised as the basis for the new class but with some key design changes including the addition of an automatic stoker strengthened frames and boiler modifications 1 Production edit 35 locomotives were built by Schneider et Cie of Le Creusot between 1948 and 1952 1 Service life edit The class was initially assigned to the line between Paris and Marseilles hauling services including the famous Le Mistral expresses but within a few years they were displaced by electrification Most of the class was then transferred to the Nord l Est and l Ouest regions For over ten years they managed the traffic on the line west of Le Mans including the 411 km 255 4 mi line to Brest and 410 km 254 8 mi line to Quimper They hauled trains of up to 16 coaches weighing over 800 tons 1 The 241 P class were allocated to the following depots South eastern Region Dijon Marseille Blancarde Lyon Mouche Nevers Eastern Region la Villette Noisy le Sec Chaumont Northern Region La Chapelle Gare du Nord Western Region Le MansAlthough powerful the class was not without its problems The frames lightly constructed to avoid excessive axle load were not able to handle the power of the cylinders and flexing of the frame under load led to problems such as hot axle boxes 2 The class also suffered from leaking boiler tubes after passing over points which necessitated structural reinforcement 3 nbsp 241 P 17 at Nantes station during the class s last regular summer of operation August 1969 The class was withdrawn progressively from service from 1965 for 241 P 1 to 1973 for 241 P 16 Their last regular work on the Le Mans to Nantes route ended in early 1970 The class was nicknamed the grosses P to distinguish them from the 141 P Class which were called the petites P Preservation edit nbsp 241 P 17 at Paris Gare de l Est 8 May 2010Four 241 Ps have been preserved 241 P 9 withdrawn in 1973 and placed in storage in Guitres was transferred from Bordeaux to Toulouse on 7 December 2008 and is the subject of a restoration project by AAATV MP 241 P 16 withdrawn in 1973 is on display at the Cite du train National Railway Museum of France in Mulhouse 241 P 17 preserved at Le Creusot and restored to working operation in April 2006 is authorised to run on SNCF tracks with passengers after a 13 year restoration project and since then travel across France and sometimes Switzerland few times a year It is classed as a Monument historique 241 P 30 withdrawn in 1969 and transferred to the French Swiss border town of Vallorbe for public display was transferred again in 1997 to Saint Sulpice Neuchatel Switzerland and into the care of the Vapeur Val de Travers group for static preservation 4 In 2019 the locomotive was acquired by AJECTA and transported to Longueville 5 References edit nbsp A scale model of a 241 P locomotive a b c 241P Mountain Pacific joueftrains com Retrieved April 21 2009 The French National Railway Museum Mulhouse martynbane co uk Retrieved April 21 2009 S N C F s 4 8 2 241 P 1 to 30 1948 1952 pictures chapelon net Retrieved April 21 2009 241 P 30 VVT Vapeur Val de Travers St Sulpice Neuchatel Neuenburg Museumsbahn www vvt ch Retrieved April 26 2009 Le projet 241P30 Retrieved September 21 2022 nbsp Wikimedia Commons has media related to SNCF 241 P Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title SNCF Class 241P amp oldid 1194022433, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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