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Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question

"Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question" is an essay by the Scottish essayist, historian and philosopher Thomas Carlyle. It was first published anonymously in Fraser's Magazine for Town and Country of London in December 1849,[1] and was revised and reprinted in 1853 as a pamphlet entitled "Occasional Discourse on the Nigger Question".[2] The essay was the spark of a debate between Carlyle and John Stuart Mill.[3] It was in this essay that Carlyle first introduced the phrase "the dismal science" to characterize the field of economics.[4]

"Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question"
First separate edition, privately printed
AuthorThomas Carlyle
CountryEngland
LanguageEnglish
PublisherFraser's Magazine
Publication date
December 1849
Media typePamphlet

Origins Edit

The article began as a devil's advocate work with the aim of challenging what Carlyle perceived to be a hypocritical movement for the abolition of slavery in Britain. Although the slave trade had been abolished by 1807, and slavery in the British Empire by 1833, nations such as the United States, Cuba and Brazil continued to legally allow slavery. In its original publication, Carlyle presented it as a speech "delivered by we know not whom" written down by an unreliable reporter by the name of "Phelin M'Quirk" (the fictitious "Absconded Reporter"). The manuscript was supposedly sold to the publisher by M'Quirk's landlady in lieu of unpaid rent – she found it lying in his room after he ran off.

In its 1849 publication, a fictitious speaker makes various controversial points ranging from derogatory comments concerning the appearance and intelligence of black people to radical alternative solutions to the issue of slavery. These opinions had probably been gathered from his proslavery friends, including several who had spent time in the West Indies, such as his friend and fellow Scotsman John Sterling, all fused into one. The speaker suggests that the conditions on most slave ships are not nearly as awful as have been widely reported, and that many other countries are still involved in the slave trade, and that trying to stop the trade would be impossible. Additionally, he proposes that rather than simply setting the enslaved free, into a world of which they have little understanding, enslavers should be obliged to look after them like members of their families, by caring for them into old age.

Throughout the delivery of the speech to the public, M'Quirk reports that members of the audience got up and left in disgust, suggesting how Carlyle expected the essay would be received. Just as he had expected, the work met with widespread disapproval, and in the minds of many people,[like whom?] Carlyle's reputation was forever tarnished. Carlyle's closest friends criticized him for his stand, but rather than back down he grew contrary and isolated. In later publications, the M'Quirk framework was entirely omitted, and Carlyle expressed the opinions as if they were his own.[citation needed]

Debate with John Stuart Mill Edit

John Stuart Mill's reply, in the next issue of Fraser's Magazine, under the title, "The Negro question" was also published anonymously.[5] Mill criticised Carlyle's view of human nature, the poor, and the existing power structure's complicity in societal wealthy inequality. He argued that any supposedly self-defeating actions are explained by class oppression.[6]

See also Edit

Notes Edit

  1. ^ Carlyle, Thomas (1849). "Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question", Fraser's Magazine for Town and Country, Vol. XL, pp. 670–679.
  2. ^ Carlyle, Thomas (1853). Occasional Discourse on the Nigger Question. London: Thomas Bosworth.
  3. ^ Goldberg, David Theo (2008). "Liberalism's Limits: Carlyle and Mill on "the Negro Question'," Nineteenth-Century Contexts, Vol. XX, No. 2, pp. 203–216.
  4. ^ Carlyle (1849), p. 672.
  5. ^ Mill, John Stuart (1850). "The Negro Question". Fraser's Magazine for Town and Country. Vol. XLI, pp. 25–31.
  6. ^ Taylor, Timothy (June 2014). "Economics and Morality". Finance & Development. Vol. 51, no. 2. IMF. Retrieved 2022-07-17.

References Edit

  • The Carlyle-Mill "Negro Question" Debate.
  • Christianson, Aileen (1980). "On the Writing of the Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question", Carlyle Newsletter, Vol. II, pp. 13–19.
  • Neff, Emery (1924). Carlyle and Mill. New York: Columbia University Press.

External links Edit

  • Full text of "Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question"
  • Full text of "Occasional Discourse on the Nigger Question"

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This article or section possibly contains synthesis of material which does not verifiably mention or relate to the main topic Relevant discussion may be found on the talk page December 2007 Learn how and when to remove this template message Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question is an essay by the Scottish essayist historian and philosopher Thomas Carlyle It was first published anonymously in Fraser s Magazine for Town and Country of London in December 1849 1 and was revised and reprinted in 1853 as a pamphlet entitled Occasional Discourse on the Nigger Question 2 The essay was the spark of a debate between Carlyle and John Stuart Mill 3 It was in this essay that Carlyle first introduced the phrase the dismal science to characterize the field of economics 4 Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question First separate edition privately printedAuthorThomas CarlyleCountryEnglandLanguageEnglishPublisherFraser s MagazinePublication dateDecember 1849Media typePamphlet Contents 1 Origins 2 Debate with John Stuart Mill 3 See also 4 Notes 5 References 6 External linksOrigins EditThe article began as a devil s advocate work with the aim of challenging what Carlyle perceived to be a hypocritical movement for the abolition of slavery in Britain Although the slave trade had been abolished by 1807 and slavery in the British Empire by 1833 nations such as the United States Cuba and Brazil continued to legally allow slavery In its original publication Carlyle presented it as a speech delivered by we know not whom written down by an unreliable reporter by the name of Phelin M Quirk the fictitious Absconded Reporter The manuscript was supposedly sold to the publisher by M Quirk s landlady in lieu of unpaid rent she found it lying in his room after he ran off In its 1849 publication a fictitious speaker makes various controversial points ranging from derogatory comments concerning the appearance and intelligence of black people to radical alternative solutions to the issue of slavery These opinions had probably been gathered from his proslavery friends including several who had spent time in the West Indies such as his friend and fellow Scotsman John Sterling all fused into one The speaker suggests that the conditions on most slave ships are not nearly as awful as have been widely reported and that many other countries are still involved in the slave trade and that trying to stop the trade would be impossible Additionally he proposes that rather than simply setting the enslaved free into a world of which they have little understanding enslavers should be obliged to look after them like members of their families by caring for them into old age Throughout the delivery of the speech to the public M Quirk reports that members of the audience got up and left in disgust suggesting how Carlyle expected the essay would be received Just as he had expected the work met with widespread disapproval and in the minds of many people like whom Carlyle s reputation was forever tarnished Carlyle s closest friends criticized him for his stand but rather than back down he grew contrary and isolated In later publications the M Quirk framework was entirely omitted and Carlyle expressed the opinions as if they were his own citation needed Debate with John Stuart Mill EditJohn Stuart Mill s reply in the next issue of Fraser s Magazine under the title The Negro question was also published anonymously 5 Mill criticised Carlyle s view of human nature the poor and the existing power structure s complicity in societal wealthy inequality He argued that any supposedly self defeating actions are explained by class oppression 6 See also EditAn American Dilemma The Negro Problem and Modern Democracy The Race QuestionNotes Edit Carlyle Thomas 1849 Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question Fraser s Magazine for Town and Country Vol XL pp 670 679 Carlyle Thomas 1853 Occasional Discourse on the Nigger Question London Thomas Bosworth Goldberg David Theo 2008 Liberalism s Limits Carlyle and Mill on the Negro Question Nineteenth Century Contexts Vol XX No 2 pp 203 216 Carlyle 1849 p 672 Mill John Stuart 1850 The Negro Question Fraser s Magazine for Town and Country Vol XLI pp 25 31 Taylor Timothy June 2014 Economics and Morality Finance amp Development Vol 51 no 2 IMF Retrieved 2022 07 17 References EditThe Carlyle Mill Negro Question Debate Christianson Aileen 1980 On the Writing of the Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question Carlyle Newsletter Vol II pp 13 19 Neff Emery 1924 Carlyle and Mill New York Columbia University Press External links Edit Wikisource has original text related to this article Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question Full text of Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question Full text of Occasional Discourse on the Nigger Question Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question amp oldid 1148185354, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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