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John Reid (minister)

John Reid (1800 – 18 July 1867) was a Presbyterian minister from Scotland who was also active in England and Australia. Born in Ayrshire, he was ordained into the United Secession Church in 1829, but later led independent and Burgher churches. He joined the established Church of Scotland in 1839, and in 1845 took over an expatriate congregation in Liverpool, England. Reid immigrated to Australia in 1852, living in Melbourne until 1858 and then in Sydney. He left the Church of Scotland and for a while ministered in John Dunmore Lang's schismatic sect, eventually ending his career at a non-denominational Bethel Union congregation. His son George Reid became the fourth Prime Minister of Australia.


John Reid
Reid c. 1857
Church
Orders
Ordination1829
Personal details
Born1800
Tarbolton, Ayrshire, Scotland
Died18 July 1867(1867-07-18) (aged 66–67)
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
DenominationPresbyterianism
Spouse
Marion Crybbace
(m. 1834)
Children7, inc. George
EducationUniversity of Edinburgh

Early life edit

Reid was born in Tarbolton, Ayrshire, Scotland, the son of Jean (née Ronald) and John Reid. His father owned a farm called The Burn near Crosshouse.[1] Reid likely began his education at the parish school in Tarbolton. His parents were probably non-conformists, as the local kirk was part of the New Licht faction of the Anti-Burghers. At the age of 15, Reid began studying at the University of Edinburgh. He attended classes in arts and medicine between 1815 and 1818, but as was common at the time did not graduate. In 1823, he entered the United Secession Theological Hall, an institution of the United Secession Church. He stayed there for three years, and was taught by John Dick.[2]

Career in Scotland edit

Reid received a probationary licence to preach in April 1826, from the presbytery of Cupar, Fife. He was formally ordained by the United Secession Church in early 1829, and received offers from congregations in Glasgow (Nicholson Street) and Edinburgh (Cowgate). He rejected both offers, instead accepting a call from the small rural parish of Dalry in Dumfriesshire. In March 1833, Reid dramatically resigned his post, reading a brief statement instead of a sermon and then walking out of the church, "to the astonishment and grief of the whole congregation".[3] He was suspended by the United Secession Church in May, and in July left the denomination altogether. The cause of his resignation was what he perceived as interference in his personal life.[4]

After leaving Dalry, Reid moved to Edinburgh and took over the pulpit of an independent congregation, St Mary Magdalene's Chapel, which had been founded by his future brother-in-law Thomas Crybbace.[4] In 1835, he switched to the United Christian Church, a small independent congregation in the Grassmarket district. The church lacked a building of its own, instead worshipping on the second floor of a factory. Reid was effectively an "urban missionary", working mostly with the poor. His stipend was only £50, a quarter of what he had been offered by the United Secession Church in 1829. In 1837, the church voted to join the Auld Licht Burghers, and they were formally received into the Original Burgher Synod the following year.[5]

In 1839, Reid took over an Auld Licht congregation in Bathgate, Linlithgowshire. Shortly after his arrival, the sect voted to rejoin the established Church of Scotland, and the Bathgate congregation followed despite local opposition.[5] In April 1841, Reid moved to Johnstone, Renfrewshire, where he stayed for four years; three of his children were born there. He remained loyal to the established church in the Disruption of 1843, despite his theology being closer to that of the breakaway Free Church of Scotland.[6]

Career in England edit

In April 1845, Reid moved to Liverpool, England, to take over the Scots Church on Oldham Street, a "prosperous expatriate congregation with its fair share of ship-owners and merchants".[6] It would be his longest single ministry, and his two youngest children were born there. In 1851, however, he decided to immigrate to Australia. According to his son George, this was because he had been diagnosed with bronchitis and was seeking a warmer climate. His congregation petitioned him to remain in Liverpool, and gifted him £100 for his services. After briefly returning to Scotland, Reid and his family left for Australia via Liverpool in December 1851. He ministered on board the ship Martin Luther, and 156 passengers signed a petition thanking him for his chaplaincy.[7]

Career in Australia edit

Reid arrived in Melbourne on 10 March 1852, and on 7 July took over the Second Scots Church, which met in a hall on Queen Street. He translated to St John's, Essendon, in April 1853,[7] and then to a congregation in North Melbourne in March 1856, where he remained until February 1858. In August 1857, the congregation petitioned for admittance to the United Presbyterian Church of Victoria, which had broken away from the Church of Scotland over what they felt was the unfair distribution of state aid.[8]

In early 1858, Reid moved to Sydney to become a minister in the schismatic Synod of New South Wales.[9] A few years earlier he had come into contact with the synod's founder, John Dunmore Lang, who told him that he was seeking another Scottish-trained minister.[8] Reid was soon elected moderator of the synod.[9] He and Lang shared the preaching duties, while Lang dealt with marriages and public duties and Reid dealt with visitation. His wife established a ragged school in The Rocks.[10]

Reid and Lang eventually fell out, although it has been noted that Reid lasted longer than many of Lang's previous colleagues. In May 1862, he accepted a position with Sydney's Bethel Union. He filled the positions of "seamen's chaplain" and minister of the nondenominational Mariners' Church in George Street.[10] He was widely considered to have had a successful tenure, expanding the congregation, establishing a temperance society, and holding lecture series. Reid was readmitted into the Synod of Australia – the largest Presbyterian sect – in November 1863, as a minister-without-charge. He aspired to return to a rural parish, unsuccessfully applying for positions in Shoalhaven and Ipswich, Queensland. He died of cystitis on 18 July 1867 and was buried in Rookwood Cemetery.[11]

Personal life edit

On 10 July 1834, Reid married Marion Crybbace, the daughter of another Presbyterian minister Edward Crybbace.[12] He had attended theological school with her brother Thomas.[4] The couple had seven children together – John (b. 1836 in Edinburgh), William Ferguson (b. 1839 in Bathgate), Hugh Ronald (b. 1841 in Johnstone), Mark Watt (b. 1843 in Johnstone), George Houstoun (b. 1845 in Johnstone), and daughters Mary Eliza and Marion Jane (b. in Liverpool, dates uncertain).[12] John, Hugh, and Mark went into the shipping industry, while William followed his father into the clergy.[13] Marion married businessman James Ewan, the chairman of the Australasian Steam Navigation Company.[14] George entered politics, eventually becoming the fourth Prime Minister of Australia. In his memoirs he said of his father: "when praise comes my way for anything that seems to be good in what I have done, I feel painfully sensible of my almost total failure to do justice to the good example which he set".[13]

References edit

  1. ^ Malcolm D. Prentis (June 1993). "Scottish Seceder in the Australian Colonies: The Eccentric Pilgrimage of John Reid". The Journal of Religious History. 17 (3): 336. doi:10.1111/j.1467-9809.1993.tb00726.x.
  2. ^ Prentis (1993), p. 339.
  3. ^ Prentis (1993), p. 340.
  4. ^ a b c Prentis (1993), p. 341.
  5. ^ a b Prentis (1993), p. 342.
  6. ^ a b Prentis (1993), p. 343.
  7. ^ a b Prentis (1993), p. 344.
  8. ^ a b Prentis (1993), p. 345.
  9. ^ a b Prentis (1993), p. 346.
  10. ^ a b Prentis (1993), p. 347.
  11. ^ Prentis (1993), p. 348.
  12. ^ a b W. G. McMinn (1989). George Reid. Melbourne University Press. p. 3.
  13. ^ a b McMinn (1989), p. 5.
  14. ^ Martha Rutledge (1972). "Ewan, James (1843–1903)". Vol. 4. Australian Dictionary of Biography.

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John Reid 1800 18 July 1867 was a Presbyterian minister from Scotland who was also active in England and Australia Born in Ayrshire he was ordained into the United Secession Church in 1829 but later led independent and Burgher churches He joined the established Church of Scotland in 1839 and in 1845 took over an expatriate congregation in Liverpool England Reid immigrated to Australia in 1852 living in Melbourne until 1858 and then in Sydney He left the Church of Scotland and for a while ministered in John Dunmore Lang s schismatic sect eventually ending his career at a non denominational Bethel Union congregation His son George Reid became the fourth Prime Minister of Australia The ReverendJohn ReidReid c 1857ChurchUnited Secession Church 1829 1833 Congregationalist 1833 1837 Auld Licht Burgher 1837 1839 Church of Scotland 1839 1857 Synod of New South Wales 1858 1862 Bethel Union 1862 1867 OrdersOrdination1829Personal detailsBorn1800Tarbolton Ayrshire ScotlandDied18 July 1867 1867 07 18 aged 66 67 Sydney New South Wales AustraliaDenominationPresbyterianismSpouseMarion Crybbace m 1834 wbr Children7 inc GeorgeEducationUniversity of Edinburgh Contents 1 Early life 2 Career in Scotland 3 Career in England 4 Career in Australia 5 Personal life 6 ReferencesEarly life editReid was born in Tarbolton Ayrshire Scotland the son of Jean nee Ronald and John Reid His father owned a farm called The Burn near Crosshouse 1 Reid likely began his education at the parish school in Tarbolton His parents were probably non conformists as the local kirk was part of the New Licht faction of the Anti Burghers At the age of 15 Reid began studying at the University of Edinburgh He attended classes in arts and medicine between 1815 and 1818 but as was common at the time did not graduate In 1823 he entered the United Secession Theological Hall an institution of the United Secession Church He stayed there for three years and was taught by John Dick 2 Career in Scotland editReid received a probationary licence to preach in April 1826 from the presbytery of Cupar Fife He was formally ordained by the United Secession Church in early 1829 and received offers from congregations in Glasgow Nicholson Street and Edinburgh Cowgate He rejected both offers instead accepting a call from the small rural parish of Dalry in Dumfriesshire In March 1833 Reid dramatically resigned his post reading a brief statement instead of a sermon and then walking out of the church to the astonishment and grief of the whole congregation 3 He was suspended by the United Secession Church in May and in July left the denomination altogether The cause of his resignation was what he perceived as interference in his personal life 4 After leaving Dalry Reid moved to Edinburgh and took over the pulpit of an independent congregation St Mary Magdalene s Chapel which had been founded by his future brother in law Thomas Crybbace 4 In 1835 he switched to the United Christian Church a small independent congregation in the Grassmarket district The church lacked a building of its own instead worshipping on the second floor of a factory Reid was effectively an urban missionary working mostly with the poor His stipend was only 50 a quarter of what he had been offered by the United Secession Church in 1829 In 1837 the church voted to join the Auld Licht Burghers and they were formally received into the Original Burgher Synod the following year 5 In 1839 Reid took over an Auld Licht congregation in Bathgate Linlithgowshire Shortly after his arrival the sect voted to rejoin the established Church of Scotland and the Bathgate congregation followed despite local opposition 5 In April 1841 Reid moved to Johnstone Renfrewshire where he stayed for four years three of his children were born there He remained loyal to the established church in the Disruption of 1843 despite his theology being closer to that of the breakaway Free Church of Scotland 6 Career in England editIn April 1845 Reid moved to Liverpool England to take over the Scots Church on Oldham Street a prosperous expatriate congregation with its fair share of ship owners and merchants 6 It would be his longest single ministry and his two youngest children were born there In 1851 however he decided to immigrate to Australia According to his son George this was because he had been diagnosed with bronchitis and was seeking a warmer climate His congregation petitioned him to remain in Liverpool and gifted him 100 for his services After briefly returning to Scotland Reid and his family left for Australia via Liverpool in December 1851 He ministered on board the ship Martin Luther and 156 passengers signed a petition thanking him for his chaplaincy 7 Career in Australia editReid arrived in Melbourne on 10 March 1852 and on 7 July took over the Second Scots Church which met in a hall on Queen Street He translated to St John s Essendon in April 1853 7 and then to a congregation in North Melbourne in March 1856 where he remained until February 1858 In August 1857 the congregation petitioned for admittance to the United Presbyterian Church of Victoria which had broken away from the Church of Scotland over what they felt was the unfair distribution of state aid 8 In early 1858 Reid moved to Sydney to become a minister in the schismatic Synod of New South Wales 9 A few years earlier he had come into contact with the synod s founder John Dunmore Lang who told him that he was seeking another Scottish trained minister 8 Reid was soon elected moderator of the synod 9 He and Lang shared the preaching duties while Lang dealt with marriages and public duties and Reid dealt with visitation His wife established a ragged school in The Rocks 10 Reid and Lang eventually fell out although it has been noted that Reid lasted longer than many of Lang s previous colleagues In May 1862 he accepted a position with Sydney s Bethel Union He filled the positions of seamen s chaplain and minister of the nondenominational Mariners Church in George Street 10 He was widely considered to have had a successful tenure expanding the congregation establishing a temperance society and holding lecture series Reid was readmitted into the Synod of Australia the largest Presbyterian sect in November 1863 as a minister without charge He aspired to return to a rural parish unsuccessfully applying for positions in Shoalhaven and Ipswich Queensland He died of cystitis on 18 July 1867 and was buried in Rookwood Cemetery 11 Personal life editOn 10 July 1834 Reid married Marion Crybbace the daughter of another Presbyterian minister Edward Crybbace 12 He had attended theological school with her brother Thomas 4 The couple had seven children together John b 1836 in Edinburgh William Ferguson b 1839 in Bathgate Hugh Ronald b 1841 in Johnstone Mark Watt b 1843 in Johnstone George Houstoun b 1845 in Johnstone and daughters Mary Eliza and Marion Jane b in Liverpool dates uncertain 12 John Hugh and Mark went into the shipping industry while William followed his father into the clergy 13 Marion married businessman James Ewan the chairman of the Australasian Steam Navigation Company 14 George entered politics eventually becoming the fourth Prime Minister of Australia In his memoirs he said of his father when praise comes my way for anything that seems to be good in what I have done I feel painfully sensible of my almost total failure to do justice to the good example which he set 13 References edit Malcolm D Prentis June 1993 Scottish Seceder in the Australian Colonies The Eccentric Pilgrimage of John Reid The Journal of Religious History 17 3 336 doi 10 1111 j 1467 9809 1993 tb00726 x Prentis 1993 p 339 Prentis 1993 p 340 a b c Prentis 1993 p 341 a b Prentis 1993 p 342 a b Prentis 1993 p 343 a b Prentis 1993 p 344 a b Prentis 1993 p 345 a b Prentis 1993 p 346 a b Prentis 1993 p 347 Prentis 1993 p 348 a b W G McMinn 1989 George Reid Melbourne University Press p 3 a b McMinn 1989 p 5 Martha Rutledge 1972 Ewan James 1843 1903 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