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HMS Seine (1798)

Seine was a 38-gun French Seine-class frigate that the Royal Navy captured in 1798 and commissioned as the fifth-rate HMS Seine.[3] On 20 August 1800, Seine captured the French ship Vengeance in a single ship action that would win for her crew the Naval General Service Medal. Seine's career ended in 1803 when she hit a sandbank near the Texel.

HMS Jason attacking the French frigate Seine
History
France
NameSeine
BuilderLe Havre
Laid downMay 1793
Launched19 December 1793
CompletedBy March 1794
Captured30 June 1798, by the Royal Navy
Great Britain
NameHMS Seine
Acquired30 June 1798
Honours and
awards
Naval General Service Medal with clasp "Seine 20 Augt. 1800"[1]
Fate
  • Grounded on 21 July 1803
  • Burnt on 22 July to prevent capture
General characteristics [2]
Class and type38-gun Seine-class fifth rate
Tons burthen1,1458794 (bm)
Length
  • 156 ft 9 in (47.8 m) (overall)
  • 131 ft 9 in (40.2 m) (keel)
Beam40 ft 6 in (12.3 m)
Depth of hold12 ft 4+14 in (3.8 m)
Sail planFull-rigged ship
Complement284
Armament

French career

Seine was a 40-gun frigate built between May 1793 and March 1794 at Le Havre, having been launched on 19 December 1793.[2] Seine's career with the French Navy lasted less than five years.

On 14 July 1794 she and Galathée captured the 16-gun sloop-of-war HMS Hound in the Atlantic.[4] In late 1794, L'Hermitte's squadron sailed for Norway. It comprised the frigates Seine, under L'Hermitte, Galathée, under Labutte, and Républicaine, under Le Bozec.

The squadron found itself blocked by cold and damage in a Norwegian harbour during the entire winter of 1794–95, sustaining over 250 dead from illness out of a total complement of 880. In spring, Seine and Galathée returned to France, leaving Républicaine to care for the untransportable sick. They eventually were rescued by the corvette Subtile.

Seine then sailed for Île de France.

On 15 May 1796 Forte, Vertu, Seine, and Régénérée were cruising between St Helena and the Cape of Good Hope hoping to capture British East Indiamen when they encountered the British whaler Lord Hawkesbury on her way to Walvis Bay. The French took off her crew, except for two seamen and a boy, and put Forte's fourth officer and 13-man prize crew aboard Lord Hawkesbury with orders to sail to Île de France. On her way there one of the British seamen, who was at the helm, succeeded in running her aground on the east coast of Africa a little north of the Cape, wrecking her. There were no casualties, but the prize crew became British prisoners.

Seine reached Île de France where she joined the squadron under Sercey. She took part in the action of 8 September 1796. In March 1798, she sailed from Île de France and was on her way to Lorient when she encountered a British frigate squadron in the Breton Passage on 30 June 1798.[5]

HMS Jason and HMS Pique chased her down and captured her at the action of 30 June 1798.[a] Seine was commanded by Capitaine Bigot and was armed with forty-two 18 and 9-pounder guns. She had a crew of 610 men, including troops.

In the engagement Seine lost 170 men killed and some 100 men wounded, many mortally. Jason had seven men killed and 12 wounded. Pique lost one man killed, six wounded, and one man missing. In the fight Jason, Pique and Seine grounded; Pique was lost, but San Fiorenzo, which had arrived on the scene, was able to get Seine off. Although the casualties aboard Seine had been high she was not badly damaged and Captain David Milne, who had been captain of Pique, and his crew transferred to her. Her captors sailed her into Portsmouth, arriving there on 18 July;[2] Milne commanded Seine for the rest of her career.[2]

British career

The Royal Navy took Seine into service under an Admiralty order dated 14 September 1798. She then spent several months fitting out at Portsmouth for the sum of £14,755.[2] She was re-rated as a 38-gun frigate and Milne commissioned her in November.

On 13 February 1799 Seine captured Graff Bernstoff.[6] Roughly a month later, on 18 March, Seine and Sea Gull recaptured Industry.[7] That same day, in a probably related encounter, Seine was in sight when the hired armed brig Telegraph captured the French privateer Hirondelle in a notable action.[8]

In 1800 Seine was at West Africa before she sailed for Jamaica in July.[9] On 20 August 1800 Seine attacked the French ship, Vengeance, which had just finished refitting at Curaçao. The vessels broke off action and Seine was unable to resume the engagement until 25 August. Then, after an hour and a half of hard fighting, Seine captured the French frigate. Both ships had sustained heavy casualties; 13 crew were killed aboard the Seine, 29 were wounded, and the ship was cut up.[10] However, Vengeance sustained worse; almost cut to pieces, many considered her beyond repair. Nevertheless Vengeance was repaired in Jamaica and taken into British service under her existing name. In 1847 the Admiralty authorized the issue of the Naval General Service Medal with clasp "Seine 20 Augt. 1800" to all surviving claimants from this action.

 
Depiction of the capture of Vengeance

The naval historian William James subsequently exaggerated Vengeance's earlier engagement with Constellation in favour of the French. He declared that as Seine had done what Constellation could not, British naval forces were "more potent than American thunder".[11] That said, Vengeance had been heavily armed with twenty-eight 18-pounder guns (main deck), sixteen 12-pounder guns and eight 42-pounder carronades (QD and Fc), brass swivel guns on the gunwales, with shifting guns on the main and quarter decks.[10]

By March 1801 Seine was at Jamaica, as part of the fleet under Lord Hugh Seymour.[12] She was then paid off in 1802.

Fate

Seine underwent a refit at Chatham Dockyard between June and July 1803, with Milne recommissioning her in May for the North Sea.[9] However, shortly after her return to service she grounded on a sandbank to the northward of Terschelling on 21 July 1803. That evening Milne had ordered the pilots to keep her out of shallow water and they had assured him that she was safe; forty minutes later she struck.[13] The crew labored all night and well into the morning, with the assistance of two passing merchant vessels to pull her off and to lighten her, but to no avail. At about 11:30am the crew abandoned Seine; they set fire to her as they left to prevent the French recapturing her.[4]

A court martial on 4 August 1803 honourably acquitted Captain Milne, his officers and crew for the loss of the vessel. However, it found the pilots guilty of ignorance.[13] The court martial sentenced them to be mulcted of all their wages for two years and to be imprisoned in the Marshalsea for two years.[4]

Notes, citations, and references

Notes

  1. ^ Mermaid was part of the British squadron involved but apparently did not take part in the action, though her arrival on the scene helped convince Seine to strike her colours.[5]

Citations

  1. ^ "No. 20939". The London Gazette. 26 January 1849. p. 239.
  2. ^ a b c d e Winfield (2008), p. 151.
  3. ^ Milne & Beeler (2004), pp. 3–7.
  4. ^ a b c Grocott (1997), p. 8.
  5. ^ a b "No. 15040". The London Gazette. 10 July 1798. pp. 650–651.
  6. ^ "No. 15596". The London Gazette. 25 June 1803. p. 762.
  7. ^ "No. 15124". The London Gazette. 13 April 1799. p. 351.
  8. ^ "No. 15470". The London Gazette. 10 April 1802. p. 376.
  9. ^ a b "NMM, vessel ID 375281" (PDF). Warship Histories, vol iii. National Maritime Museum. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2 August 2011. Retrieved 30 July 2011.
  10. ^ a b "No. 15308". The London Gazette. 4 November 1800. pp. 1256–1257.
  11. ^ James (2004), pp. 32–3.
  12. ^ Gardiner (2006), p. 187.
  13. ^ a b Hepper (1994), p. 102.

References

  • Blake, Nicholas & Lawrence, Richard (2005). The Illustrated Companion to Nelson's Navy (illustrated ed.). Stackpole Books. p. 35. ISBN 978-0-8117-3275-8.
  • Colledge, J. J.; Warlow, Ben (2006) [1969]. Ships of the Royal Navy: The Complete Record of all Fighting Ships of the Royal Navy (Rev. ed.). London: Chatham Publishing. ISBN 978-1-86176-281-8.
  • Delaunay, D. (1890). "Mémoires d'Angenard, 1833". Annales de Bretagne. VI: 373, 482.
  • Gardiner, Robert (2006). Frigates of the Napoleonic Wars. London: Chatham Publishing. ISBN 1-86176-292-5.
  • Grocott, Terence (1997). Shipwrecks of the revolutionary & Napoleonic eras. Chatham. ISBN 1-86176-030-2.
  • Hepper, David J. (1994). British Warship Losses in the Age of Sail, 1650-1859. Rotherfield: Jean Boudriot. ISBN 0-948864-30-3.
  • James, William (2004). Naval occurrences of the War of 1812: a full and correct account of the naval war between Great Britain and the United States of America, 1812-1815 (illustrated ed.). Naval Institute Press. ISBN 978-0-85177-987-4.
  • Milne, Alexander & Beeler, John (2004). The Milne papers: the papers of Admiral of the Fleet Sir Alexander Milne, Bt., K.C.B. (1806-1896). Ashgate for the Navy Records Society. pp. 3–7. ISBN 978-0-7546-5063-8.
  • Winfield, Rif (2008). British Warships in the Age of Sail 1793–1817: Design, Construction, Careers and Fates. Seaforth Publishing. ISBN 978-1-86176-246-7.
  • This article includes data released under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported UK: England & Wales Licence, by the National Maritime Museum, as part of the Warship Histories project.

External links

  •   Media related to HMS Seine (1798) at Wikimedia Commons

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For other ships with the same name see HMS Seine Seine was a 38 gun French Seine class frigate that the Royal Navy captured in 1798 and commissioned as the fifth rate HMS Seine 3 On 20 August 1800 Seine captured the French ship Vengeance in a single ship action that would win for her crew the Naval General Service Medal Seine s career ended in 1803 when she hit a sandbank near the Texel HMS Jason attacking the French frigate SeineHistoryFranceNameSeineBuilderLe HavreLaid downMay 1793Launched19 December 1793CompletedBy March 1794Captured30 June 1798 by the Royal NavyGreat BritainNameHMS SeineAcquired30 June 1798Honours andawardsNaval General Service Medal with clasp Seine 20 Augt 1800 1 FateGrounded on 21 July 1803 Burnt on 22 July to prevent captureGeneral characteristics 2 Class and type38 gun Seine class fifth rateTons burthen1 14587 94 bm Length156 ft 9 in 47 8 m overall 131 ft 9 in 40 2 m keel Beam40 ft 6 in 12 3 m Depth of hold12 ft 4 1 4 in 3 8 m Sail planFull rigged shipComplement284ArmamentUpper deck 28 x 18 pounder guns QD 8 x 9 pounder guns Fc 4 x 9 pounder guns Contents 1 French career 2 British career 3 Fate 4 Notes citations and references 5 External linksFrench career EditSeine was a 40 gun frigate built between May 1793 and March 1794 at Le Havre having been launched on 19 December 1793 2 Seine s career with the French Navy lasted less than five years On 14 July 1794 she and Galathee captured the 16 gun sloop of war HMS Hound in the Atlantic 4 In late 1794 L Hermitte s squadron sailed for Norway It comprised the frigates Seine under L Hermitte Galathee under Labutte and Republicaine under Le Bozec The squadron found itself blocked by cold and damage in a Norwegian harbour during the entire winter of 1794 95 sustaining over 250 dead from illness out of a total complement of 880 In spring Seine and Galathee returned to France leaving Republicaine to care for the untransportable sick They eventually were rescued by the corvette Subtile Seine then sailed for Ile de France On 15 May 1796 Forte Vertu Seine and Regeneree were cruising between St Helena and the Cape of Good Hope hoping to capture British East Indiamen when they encountered the British whaler Lord Hawkesbury on her way to Walvis Bay The French took off her crew except for two seamen and a boy and put Forte s fourth officer and 13 man prize crew aboard Lord Hawkesbury with orders to sail to Ile de France On her way there one of the British seamen who was at the helm succeeded in running her aground on the east coast of Africa a little north of the Cape wrecking her There were no casualties but the prize crew became British prisoners Seine reached Ile de France where she joined the squadron under Sercey She took part in the action of 8 September 1796 In March 1798 she sailed from Ile de France and was on her way to Lorient when she encountered a British frigate squadron in the Breton Passage on 30 June 1798 5 HMS Jason and HMS Pique chased her down and captured her at the action of 30 June 1798 a Seine was commanded by Capitaine Bigot and was armed with forty two 18 and 9 pounder guns She had a crew of 610 men including troops In the engagement Seine lost 170 men killed and some 100 men wounded many mortally Jason had seven men killed and 12 wounded Pique lost one man killed six wounded and one man missing In the fight Jason Pique and Seine grounded Pique was lost but San Fiorenzo which had arrived on the scene was able to get Seine off Although the casualties aboard Seine had been high she was not badly damaged and Captain David Milne who had been captain of Pique and his crew transferred to her Her captors sailed her into Portsmouth arriving there on 18 July 2 Milne commanded Seine for the rest of her career 2 British career EditThe Royal Navy took Seine into service under an Admiralty order dated 14 September 1798 She then spent several months fitting out at Portsmouth for the sum of 14 755 2 She was re rated as a 38 gun frigate and Milne commissioned her in November On 13 February 1799 Seine captured Graff Bernstoff 6 Roughly a month later on 18 March Seine and Sea Gull recaptured Industry 7 That same day in a probably related encounter Seine was in sight when the hired armed brig Telegraph captured the French privateer Hirondelle in a notable action 8 In 1800 Seine was at West Africa before she sailed for Jamaica in July 9 On 20 August 1800 Seine attacked the French ship Vengeance which had just finished refitting at Curacao The vessels broke off action and Seine was unable to resume the engagement until 25 August Then after an hour and a half of hard fighting Seine captured the French frigate Both ships had sustained heavy casualties 13 crew were killed aboard the Seine 29 were wounded and the ship was cut up 10 However Vengeance sustained worse almost cut to pieces many considered her beyond repair Nevertheless Vengeance was repaired in Jamaica and taken into British service under her existing name In 1847 the Admiralty authorized the issue of the Naval General Service Medal with clasp Seine 20 Augt 1800 to all surviving claimants from this action Depiction of the capture of Vengeance The naval historian William James subsequently exaggerated Vengeance s earlier engagement with Constellation in favour of the French He declared that as Seine had done what Constellation could not British naval forces were more potent than American thunder 11 That said Vengeance had been heavily armed with twenty eight 18 pounder guns main deck sixteen 12 pounder guns and eight 42 pounder carronades QD and Fc brass swivel guns on the gunwales with shifting guns on the main and quarter decks 10 By March 1801 Seine was at Jamaica as part of the fleet under Lord Hugh Seymour 12 She was then paid off in 1802 Fate EditSeine underwent a refit at Chatham Dockyard between June and July 1803 with Milne recommissioning her in May for the North Sea 9 However shortly after her return to service she grounded on a sandbank to the northward of Terschelling on 21 July 1803 That evening Milne had ordered the pilots to keep her out of shallow water and they had assured him that she was safe forty minutes later she struck 13 The crew labored all night and well into the morning with the assistance of two passing merchant vessels to pull her off and to lighten her but to no avail At about 11 30am the crew abandoned Seine they set fire to her as they left to prevent the French recapturing her 4 A court martial on 4 August 1803 honourably acquitted Captain Milne his officers and crew for the loss of the vessel However it found the pilots guilty of ignorance 13 The court martial sentenced them to be mulcted of all their wages for two years and to be imprisoned in the Marshalsea for two years 4 Notes citations and references EditNotes Mermaid was part of the British squadron involved but apparently did not take part in the action though her arrival on the scene helped convince Seine to strike her colours 5 Citations No 20939 The London Gazette 26 January 1849 p 239 a b c d e Winfield 2008 p 151 Milne amp Beeler 2004 pp 3 7 a b c Grocott 1997 p 8 a b No 15040 The London Gazette 10 July 1798 pp 650 651 No 15596 The London Gazette 25 June 1803 p 762 No 15124 The London Gazette 13 April 1799 p 351 No 15470 The London Gazette 10 April 1802 p 376 a b NMM vessel ID 375281 PDF Warship Histories vol iii National Maritime Museum Archived from the original PDF on 2 August 2011 Retrieved 30 July 2011 a b No 15308 The London Gazette 4 November 1800 pp 1256 1257 James 2004 pp 32 3 Gardiner 2006 p 187 a b Hepper 1994 p 102 References Blake Nicholas amp Lawrence Richard 2005 The Illustrated Companion to Nelson s Navy illustrated ed Stackpole Books p 35 ISBN 978 0 8117 3275 8 Colledge J J Warlow Ben 2006 1969 Ships of the Royal Navy The Complete Record of all Fighting Ships of the Royal Navy Rev ed London Chatham Publishing ISBN 978 1 86176 281 8 Delaunay D 1890 Memoires d Angenard 1833 Annales de Bretagne VI 373 482 Gardiner Robert 2006 Frigates of the Napoleonic Wars London Chatham Publishing ISBN 1 86176 292 5 Grocott Terence 1997 Shipwrecks of the revolutionary amp Napoleonic eras Chatham ISBN 1 86176 030 2 Hepper David J 1994 British Warship Losses in the Age of Sail 1650 1859 Rotherfield Jean Boudriot ISBN 0 948864 30 3 James William 2004 Naval occurrences of the War of 1812 a full and correct account of the naval war between Great Britain and the United States of America 1812 1815 illustrated ed Naval Institute Press ISBN 978 0 85177 987 4 Milne Alexander amp Beeler John 2004 The Milne papers the papers of Admiral of the Fleet Sir Alexander Milne Bt K C B 1806 1896 Ashgate for the Navy Records Society pp 3 7 ISBN 978 0 7546 5063 8 Winfield Rif 2008 British Warships in the Age of Sail 1793 1817 Design Construction Careers and Fates Seaforth Publishing ISBN 978 1 86176 246 7 This article includes data released under a Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3 0 Unported UK England amp Wales Licence by the National Maritime Museum as part of the Warship Histories project External links Edit Media related to HMS Seine 1798 at Wikimedia Commons Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title HMS Seine 1798 amp oldid 1097030718, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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