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Before Hollywood

Before Hollywood is the second album by Australian rock band The Go-Betweens, released in May 1983. The album reached No. 2 on the UK Independent Charts and a single, "Cattle and Cane" reached No. 4.[1] In 2001 "Cattle and Cane" was voted as one of the 30 all-time best Australian songs in an Australasian Performing Right Association poll of 100 music industry personalities.[2]

Before Hollywood
Studio album by
ReleasedMay 1983
RecordedOctober 1982
StudioICC Studios, Eastbourne, England
GenreRock, alternative rock, indie rock
Length39:00
LabelRough Trade
ProducerJohn Brand
The Go-Betweens chronology
Send Me a Lullaby
(1982)
Before Hollywood
(1983)
Spring Hill Fair
(1984)
Singles from Before Hollywood
  1. "Cattle and Cane"
    Released: February 1983

The album, recorded in the UK, was the first to have a 50-50 split of songs written by Robert Forster and Grant McLennan. In a 1996 radio interview McLennan nominated Before Hollywood as one of his two definitive Go-Betweens albums, describing it as a "nice combination of our skewered and classic songwriting, but with a heavy underground feeling".[3][4]

An expanded version was released in 2002 featuring a second disc of eight bonus tracks and a music video for "Cattle and Cane."

Recording

Songwriting for the album began with Robert Forster's "By Chance," which was written in Melbourne in December 1981, a month after the Australian release of the band's debut album, Send Me a Lullaby. Forster admitted he had disliked much of what he had written in 1980 and 1981 and had been in "a hole".[5] But "By Chance" marked the turnaround. "I was away again, my songwriting driven by the simple logic that if I could write one strong song, I could write another." The song was used as the B-side to the Grant McLennan composition, "Hammer the Hammer," which was released as a single in March 1982.[6] Missing Link label boss Keith Glass, who had funded the recording and distribution of Send Me a Lullaby, told the band he could not finance a second LP, but began shopping the debut album overseas. Geoff Travis, owner of Rough Trade Records in London, agreed to license both the album and the new single for UK release, then also invited the Go-Betweens to London to record a follow-up album.[6]

By the time the band arrived in London in May 1982 they had a new song, McLennan's "A Bad Debt Follows You," which was followed soon after by Forster's "On My Block." In letters back to friends in Brisbane, Forster wrote that they had "a wealth of songs" for the as-yet unnamed album. Apparently fascinated by a recently aired documentary TV series on the history of Hollywood, he wrote of his sadness over the death of actor Grace Kelly and his concern that "so much of Hollywood is dying".[7]

As they rehearsed for the upcoming album, the band discussed with Travis possible options for its recording: the band was unenthusiastic about Travis's proposal that they work in New York with Chris Stamey of power pop outfit The dB's, instead suggesting they book a studio in Tennessee with Jim Dickinson, who had earlier worked with The Byrds and played keyboards with Ry Cooder.[7] Robbie Robertson from The Band and Lindsey Buckingham from Fleetwood Mac were also suggested as possible producers.[8] The decision in the end was to go with John Brand, an engineer who had worked with XTC and Magazine and was making the transition from engineer to record producer.[8] Brand had just completed High Land, Hard Rain, the debut album by Aztec Camera, for Rough Trade at International Christian Communications (ICC) Studios in the seaside town of Eastbourne, and its two singles featured catchy, singalong choruses that were directly aimed at the charts. Author David Nichols has speculated that McLennan particularly was keen for Brand to lead the Go-Betweens in a more commercial direction with simpler songs and less complex drumming.[7] In a 1983 radio interview McLennan said Brand had been strict about keeping the drums to a steady rhythm and the singing in tune—"because Robert and I have a propensity to wander off in directions of sheer anarchic brilliance. And he said, 'No anarchic brilliance on this record, just straight melody and in tune."[7]

Brand brought in an Australian keyboardist, Bernie Clarke, who had shared production duties on High Land, Hard Rain and formulated a sound that Forster later said was "not fashionable at the time: live drums, electric and acoustic guitar, Hammond organ and piano".[8] Forster also praised Brand's skill at breaking down song structures and instrumentation, to tighten and enhance them when reassembling. He noted:

He favoured a careful layering of instrumentation. It's a method that can lead to sterility of sound, but John got the balance between live recording and a coating of overdubs just right. In the process he did a wonderful thing to our music—he rained colour through it. Where Send Me a Lullaby was like a great recording of us in the practice room, Before Hollywood was a production—the band brightened, the tunefulness brought forward, the quirky riffs and time signatures kept—yet, through John's engineering skills, clear and punchy.[8]

The setting for the recording added a further dimension to the album's tone. Though most of the album had been written through summer, Eastbourne in autumn presented a dark and moody contrast. The band often walked along the town's 19th century seafront and surveyed its decaying present with its nostalgia for a romantic past.[5]

Songwriting

Before Hollywood was the first Go-Betweens album to list all songwriter credits as "Forster/McLennan" and marked the point when both writers made a verbal agreement that each would have an equal number of songs on every album.[9]

Forster rated the songs on the album as the best set he and McLennan had ever written, most flowing "in a gold rush over a warm English summer". He said his songs were mostly built out of "By Chance" (which Brand re-recorded for the album) and that his improved guitar riffs were the foundations for "Before Hollywood" and "On My Block." He said "As Long As That" was written as an ode to his then partner, drummer Lindy Morrison.

Forster described McLennan's five songs as "enormous ... an exciting set of pop songs built on his greatest strength—melody, which he could spin by the yard".[10] Among McLennan's contributions were "Dusty In Here," directed to the ghost of his father, a doctor, who had died when McLennan was aged six, and "Cattle and Cane", a part-autobiographical song inspired by his childhood in far north Queensland. Forster wrote of "Cattle and Cane": "It proved difficult to put chords to, so I doubled his part; then Lindy arrived with her drumsticks and announced that the song was in some incredible time count ... 13/8 or something, which theoretically only Charlie Parker could play, and to her credit she didn't try to straighten it, only preserved its oddness, in turn making one of the most distinctive beats in rock." Another McLennan composition, "That Way," was written about his musician friend Peter Walsh, a former member of The Apartments, who had left Brisbane to move to New York.[10][11]

Critical reception

Reviewing in NME at the time of release, Mat Snow said "Lindy Morrison's drumming is crisp, subtle and dynamic, Grant's bass is a model of telling economy and Robert plays a song-writer's guitar – soaring and lyrical but always to the point." The influence of Bob Dylan, Tom Verlaine, and David Byrne is noted. The review concludes by describing the album as "a rare masterpiece."[22]

Ned Raggett states in AllMusic that "The Go-Betweens were already a good band well before they made Before Hollywood, but this second album is what proved for many listeners that they were great. For good reason – both Robert Forster's and Grant McLennan's singing sounds much more honestly theirs, finding their own voices, while collectively the trio create a series of intricate, surprising melodies and songs which balance past and present beautifully."[12]

Andrew Stafford, in his book Pig City: From the Saints to Savage Garden, states "Before Hollywood' s impressionistic lyrics and sparkling blend of acoustic and electric textures recalled earlier folk influences – Simon & Garfunkel, the Byrds, and, especially Bob Dylan's Bringing It All Back Home. Even Before Hollywood's sleeve design nods towards the Dylan album, with the Go-Betweens framed by a collection of antiques."[23]

In October 2010 Before Hollywood was listed in the book 100 Best Australian Albums at No. 87, with their 1988 album 16 Lovers Lane at No. 12.[24] The authors writing that "On Before Hollywood, The Go-Betweens offer up an elusive, lo-fi take on classic mid '60s Bob Dylan and the New York downtown sound a decade later."[24]

Track listing

(All tracks written by Grant McLennan and Robert Forster)

No.TitleLyricsLength
1."A Bad Debt Follows You"McLennan2:24
2."Two Steps Step Out"McLennan3:28
3."Before Hollywood"Forster3:44
4."Dusty in Here"McLennan4:09
5."Ask"Forster5:14
6."Cattle and Cane"McLennan[25]4:20
7."By Chance"Forster2:20
8."As Long As That"McLennan, Forster5:25
9."On My Block"Forster3:49
10."That Way"McLennan4:07
Total length:39:00
2002 bonus disc
No.TitleWriter(s)Length
1."Hammer the Hammer"McLennan2:49
2."Heaven Says" 4:06
3."Just a King in Mirrors" 2:57
4."A Peaceful Wreck" 2:31
5."Man O'Sand to Girl O'Sea"Forster3:24
6."Near the Chimney" 3:39
7."This Girl, Black Girl" 3:32
8."The Exception of Deception" 1:49
9."Cattle and Cane" (video)  
Total length:24:47

Release history

Date Region Label Format Catalogue
May 1983 UK Rough Trade LP ROUGH 54
AUS Stunn STUN 508
1984 Rough Trade RTRANZ 008
1990 UK CD ROUGH LCD 54
US ROUGH US 91
AUS Red Eye Cassette RED MC 16
LP RED LP 16
March 1996 UK Beggars Banquet CD BBL 2002 CD
AUS Silk Sheen SILK 003
JP Rough Trade TKCB-70897
2002 UK Circus FYL010
US Jetset TWA47CD
AUS EMI Australia 0946 3 69608 2 1

Personnel

The Go-Betweens
Additional musicians
  • Bernard Clarke — organ, piano
  • Robert Vickers — bass guitar on bonus tracks "The Man O'Sand to Girl O'Sea" and "This Girl, Black Girl"

Production

  • Producer/Engineer — John Brand
  • Photography — Tom Sheehan
  • Layout — Martyn Lambert

References

  1. ^ Lazell, Barry (1997). . Cherry Red Books. ISBN 0-9517206-9-4. Archived from the original on 7 July 2010.
  2. ^
  3. ^ Kingsmill, Richard (2002). The J Files Compendium. Sydney: ABC Books. p. 113. ISBN 0-7333-1066-4.
  4. ^ In a Melbourne Sunday Herald Sun interview in 2000 McLennan named Before Hollywood as his favourite Go-Betweens album. See "Ready, set, Go-Between" by Graeme Hammond, Sunday Herald Sun, 17 September 2000.
  5. ^ a b Liner notes by Andrew Male on 2002 expanded version of Before Hollywood.
  6. ^ a b Robert Forster (2016). Grant & I. Penguin. pp. 98–99, 102, 105. ISBN 978-0-6700782-2-6.
  7. ^ a b c d David Nichols (2005). The Go-Betweens. Verse Chorus Verse. pp. 121–124. ISBN 9781891241161.
  8. ^ a b c d Robert Forster (2016). Grant & I. Penguin. pp. 109, 111. ISBN 978-0-6700782-2-6.
  9. ^ Robert Forster (2016). Grant & I. Penguin. p. 115. ISBN 978-0-6700782-2-6.
  10. ^ a b Robert Forster (2016). Grant & I. Penguin. pp. 31, 112–114. ISBN 978-0-6700782-2-6.
  11. ^ Robert Forster (2016). Grant & I. Penguin. p. 117. ISBN 978-0-6700782-2-6.
  12. ^ a b Raggett, Ned. "Before Hollywood – The Go-Betweens". AllMusic. Retrieved 29 April 2013.
  13. ^ Brunner, Rob (6 September 2002). "Send Me a Lullaby; Before Hollywood; Spring Hill Fair". Entertainment Weekly. Retrieved 14 December 2021.
  14. ^ "The Go-Betweens: Before Hollywood". NME. 13 April 1996. p. 47.
  15. ^ Perlich, Tim (21 November 2002). "Go-Betweens: Spring Hill Fair (Circus/Jetset) / Send Me A Lullaby (Circus/Jetset) / Before Hollywood (Circus/Jetset)". Now. Retrieved 14 December 2021.
  16. ^ . Q. Archived from the original on 29 October 2008. Retrieved 31 January 2022.
  17. ^ Wolk, Douglas (2004). "The Go-Betweens". In Brackett, Nathan; Hoard, Christian (eds.). The New Rolling Stone Album Guide (4th ed.). Simon & Schuster. pp. 333–334. ISBN 0-7432-0169-8.
  18. ^ Male, Andrew (May 1996). "The Go-Betweens: Send Me a Lullaby / Before Hollywood / Spring Hill Fair / Liberty Belle and the Black Diamond Express / Tallulah / 16 Lovers Lane". Select. No. 71. p. 102.
  19. ^ Weisbard, Eric (1995). "Go-Betweens". In Weisbard, Eric; Marks, Craig (eds.). Spin Alternative Record Guide. Vintage Books. pp. 167–168. ISBN 0-679-75574-8.
  20. ^ "Tallulah? Gosh!: The Go-Betweens on CD". Uncut. No. 41. October 2000.
  21. ^ Christgau, Robert (24 January 1984). "Christgau's Consumer Guide". The Village Voice. Retrieved 29 April 2013.
  22. ^ Snow, Mat (26 March 1983). "Absolutely Sweet Betweens". NME. London, England. p. 26.
  23. ^ Stafford, Andrew (2004). Pig City: From the Saints to Savage Garden. p. 145. ISBN 978-0-7022-3561-0.
  24. ^ a b O'Donnell, John; Creswell, Toby; Mathieson, Craig (October 2010). 100 Best Australian Albums. Prahran, Vic: Hardie Grant Books. p. 226. ISBN 978-1-74066-955-9.
  25. ^ ""Cattle and Cane" at APRA search engine". Australasian Performing Right Association (APRA). Retrieved 22 July 2015.

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Before Hollywood is the second album by Australian rock band The Go Betweens released in May 1983 The album reached No 2 on the UK Independent Charts and a single Cattle and Cane reached No 4 1 In 2001 Cattle and Cane was voted as one of the 30 all time best Australian songs in an Australasian Performing Right Association poll of 100 music industry personalities 2 Before HollywoodStudio album by The Go BetweensReleasedMay 1983RecordedOctober 1982StudioICC Studios Eastbourne EnglandGenreRock alternative rock indie rockLength39 00LabelRough TradeProducerJohn BrandThe Go Betweens chronologySend Me a Lullaby 1982 Before Hollywood 1983 Spring Hill Fair 1984 Singles from Before Hollywood Cattle and Cane Released February 1983The album recorded in the UK was the first to have a 50 50 split of songs written by Robert Forster and Grant McLennan In a 1996 radio interview McLennan nominated Before Hollywood as one of his two definitive Go Betweens albums describing it as a nice combination of our skewered and classic songwriting but with a heavy underground feeling 3 4 An expanded version was released in 2002 featuring a second disc of eight bonus tracks and a music video for Cattle and Cane Contents 1 Recording 2 Songwriting 3 Critical reception 4 Track listing 5 Release history 6 Personnel 6 1 Production 7 ReferencesRecording EditSongwriting for the album began with Robert Forster s By Chance which was written in Melbourne in December 1981 a month after the Australian release of the band s debut album Send Me a Lullaby Forster admitted he had disliked much of what he had written in 1980 and 1981 and had been in a hole 5 But By Chance marked the turnaround I was away again my songwriting driven by the simple logic that if I could write one strong song I could write another The song was used as the B side to the Grant McLennan composition Hammer the Hammer which was released as a single in March 1982 6 Missing Link label boss Keith Glass who had funded the recording and distribution of Send Me a Lullaby told the band he could not finance a second LP but began shopping the debut album overseas Geoff Travis owner of Rough Trade Records in London agreed to license both the album and the new single for UK release then also invited the Go Betweens to London to record a follow up album 6 By the time the band arrived in London in May 1982 they had a new song McLennan s A Bad Debt Follows You which was followed soon after by Forster s On My Block In letters back to friends in Brisbane Forster wrote that they had a wealth of songs for the as yet unnamed album Apparently fascinated by a recently aired documentary TV series on the history of Hollywood he wrote of his sadness over the death of actor Grace Kelly and his concern that so much of Hollywood is dying 7 As they rehearsed for the upcoming album the band discussed with Travis possible options for its recording the band was unenthusiastic about Travis s proposal that they work in New York with Chris Stamey of power pop outfit The dB s instead suggesting they book a studio in Tennessee with Jim Dickinson who had earlier worked with The Byrds and played keyboards with Ry Cooder 7 Robbie Robertson from The Band and Lindsey Buckingham from Fleetwood Mac were also suggested as possible producers 8 The decision in the end was to go with John Brand an engineer who had worked with XTC and Magazine and was making the transition from engineer to record producer 8 Brand had just completed High Land Hard Rain the debut album by Aztec Camera for Rough Trade at International Christian Communications ICC Studios in the seaside town of Eastbourne and its two singles featured catchy singalong choruses that were directly aimed at the charts Author David Nichols has speculated that McLennan particularly was keen for Brand to lead the Go Betweens in a more commercial direction with simpler songs and less complex drumming 7 In a 1983 radio interview McLennan said Brand had been strict about keeping the drums to a steady rhythm and the singing in tune because Robert and I have a propensity to wander off in directions of sheer anarchic brilliance And he said No anarchic brilliance on this record just straight melody and in tune 7 Brand brought in an Australian keyboardist Bernie Clarke who had shared production duties on High Land Hard Rain and formulated a sound that Forster later said was not fashionable at the time live drums electric and acoustic guitar Hammond organ and piano 8 Forster also praised Brand s skill at breaking down song structures and instrumentation to tighten and enhance them when reassembling He noted He favoured a careful layering of instrumentation It s a method that can lead to sterility of sound but John got the balance between live recording and a coating of overdubs just right In the process he did a wonderful thing to our music he rained colour through it Where Send Me a Lullaby was like a great recording of us in the practice room Before Hollywood was a production the band brightened the tunefulness brought forward the quirky riffs and time signatures kept yet through John s engineering skills clear and punchy 8 The setting for the recording added a further dimension to the album s tone Though most of the album had been written through summer Eastbourne in autumn presented a dark and moody contrast The band often walked along the town s 19th century seafront and surveyed its decaying present with its nostalgia for a romantic past 5 Songwriting EditBefore Hollywood was the first Go Betweens album to list all songwriter credits as Forster McLennan and marked the point when both writers made a verbal agreement that each would have an equal number of songs on every album 9 Forster rated the songs on the album as the best set he and McLennan had ever written most flowing in a gold rush over a warm English summer He said his songs were mostly built out of By Chance which Brand re recorded for the album and that his improved guitar riffs were the foundations for Before Hollywood and On My Block He said As Long As That was written as an ode to his then partner drummer Lindy Morrison Forster described McLennan s five songs as enormous an exciting set of pop songs built on his greatest strength melody which he could spin by the yard 10 Among McLennan s contributions were Dusty In Here directed to the ghost of his father a doctor who had died when McLennan was aged six and Cattle and Cane a part autobiographical song inspired by his childhood in far north Queensland Forster wrote of Cattle and Cane It proved difficult to put chords to so I doubled his part then Lindy arrived with her drumsticks and announced that the song was in some incredible time count 13 8 or something which theoretically only Charlie Parker could play and to her credit she didn t try to straighten it only preserved its oddness in turn making one of the most distinctive beats in rock Another McLennan composition That Way was written about his musician friend Peter Walsh a former member of The Apartments who had left Brisbane to move to New York 10 11 Critical reception EditProfessional ratingsReview scoresSourceRatingAllMusic 12 Entertainment WeeklyA 13 NME8 10 14 Now4 5 15 Q 16 The Rolling Stone Album Guide 17 Select3 5 18 Spin Alternative Record Guide8 10 19 Uncut 20 The Village VoiceB 21 Reviewing in NME at the time of release Mat Snow said Lindy Morrison s drumming is crisp subtle and dynamic Grant s bass is a model of telling economy and Robert plays a song writer s guitar soaring and lyrical but always to the point The influence of Bob Dylan Tom Verlaine and David Byrne is noted The review concludes by describing the album as a rare masterpiece 22 Ned Raggett states in AllMusic that The Go Betweens were already a good band well before they made Before Hollywood but this second album is what proved for many listeners that they were great For good reason both Robert Forster s and Grant McLennan s singing sounds much more honestly theirs finding their own voices while collectively the trio create a series of intricate surprising melodies and songs which balance past and present beautifully 12 Andrew Stafford in his book Pig City From the Saints to Savage Garden states Before Hollywood s impressionistic lyrics and sparkling blend of acoustic and electric textures recalled earlier folk influences Simon amp Garfunkel the Byrds and especially Bob Dylan s Bringing It All Back Home Even Before Hollywood s sleeve design nods towards the Dylan album with the Go Betweens framed by a collection of antiques 23 In October 2010 Before Hollywood was listed in the book 100 Best Australian Albums at No 87 with their 1988 album 16 Lovers Lane at No 12 24 The authors writing that On Before Hollywood The Go Betweens offer up an elusive lo fi take on classic mid 60s Bob Dylan and the New York downtown sound a decade later 24 Track listing Edit All tracks written by Grant McLennan and Robert Forster No TitleLyricsLength1 A Bad Debt Follows You McLennan2 242 Two Steps Step Out McLennan3 283 Before Hollywood Forster3 444 Dusty in Here McLennan4 095 Ask Forster5 146 Cattle and Cane McLennan 25 4 207 By Chance Forster2 208 As Long As That McLennan Forster5 259 On My Block Forster3 4910 That Way McLennan4 07Total length 39 00 2002 bonus discNo TitleWriter s Length1 Hammer the Hammer McLennan2 492 Heaven Says 4 063 Just a King in Mirrors 2 574 A Peaceful Wreck 2 315 Man O Sand to Girl O Sea Forster3 246 Near the Chimney 3 397 This Girl Black Girl 3 328 The Exception of Deception 1 499 Cattle and Cane video Total length 24 47Release history EditDate Region Label Format CatalogueMay 1983 UK Rough Trade LP ROUGH 54AUS Stunn STUN 5081984 Rough Trade RTRANZ 0081990 UK CD ROUGH LCD 54US ROUGH US 91AUS Red Eye Cassette RED MC 16LP RED LP 16March 1996 UK Beggars Banquet CD BBL 2002 CDAUS Silk Sheen SILK 003JP Rough Trade TKCB 708972002 UK Circus FYL010US Jetset TWA47CDAUS EMI Australia 0946 3 69608 2 1Personnel EditThe Go BetweensRobert Forster vocals guitar rhythm guitar Grant McLennan vocals bass guitar guitar Lindy Morrison drums backing vocalsAdditional musiciansBernard Clarke organ piano Robert Vickers bass guitar on bonus tracks The Man O Sand to Girl O Sea and This Girl Black Girl Production Edit Producer Engineer John Brand Photography Tom Sheehan Layout Martyn LambertReferences Edit Lazell Barry 1997 Indie Hits 1980 1989 Cherry Red Books ISBN 0 9517206 9 4 Archived from the original on 7 July 2010 APRA AMCOS Top 30 songs Kingsmill Richard 2002 The J Files Compendium Sydney ABC Books p 113 ISBN 0 7333 1066 4 In a Melbourne Sunday Herald Sun interview in 2000 McLennan named Before Hollywood as his favourite Go Betweens album See Ready set Go Between by Graeme Hammond Sunday Herald Sun 17 September 2000 a b Liner notes by Andrew Male on 2002 expanded version of Before Hollywood a b Robert Forster 2016 Grant amp I Penguin pp 98 99 102 105 ISBN 978 0 6700782 2 6 a b c d David Nichols 2005 The Go Betweens Verse Chorus Verse pp 121 124 ISBN 9781891241161 a b c d Robert Forster 2016 Grant amp I Penguin pp 109 111 ISBN 978 0 6700782 2 6 Robert Forster 2016 Grant amp I Penguin p 115 ISBN 978 0 6700782 2 6 a b Robert Forster 2016 Grant amp I Penguin pp 31 112 114 ISBN 978 0 6700782 2 6 Robert Forster 2016 Grant amp I Penguin p 117 ISBN 978 0 6700782 2 6 a b Raggett Ned Before Hollywood The Go Betweens AllMusic Retrieved 29 April 2013 Brunner Rob 6 September 2002 Send Me a Lullaby Before Hollywood Spring Hill Fair Entertainment Weekly Retrieved 14 December 2021 The Go Betweens Before Hollywood NME 13 April 1996 p 47 Perlich Tim 21 November 2002 Go Betweens Spring Hill Fair Circus Jetset Send Me A Lullaby Circus Jetset Before Hollywood Circus Jetset Now Retrieved 14 December 2021 Great Contenders The Go Betweens Q Archived from the original on 29 October 2008 Retrieved 31 January 2022 Wolk Douglas 2004 The Go Betweens In Brackett Nathan Hoard Christian eds The New Rolling Stone Album Guide 4th ed Simon amp Schuster pp 333 334 ISBN 0 7432 0169 8 Male Andrew May 1996 The Go Betweens Send Me a Lullaby Before Hollywood Spring Hill Fair Liberty Belle and the Black Diamond Express Tallulah 16 Lovers Lane Select No 71 p 102 Weisbard Eric 1995 Go Betweens In Weisbard Eric Marks Craig eds Spin Alternative Record Guide Vintage Books pp 167 168 ISBN 0 679 75574 8 Tallulah Gosh The Go Betweens on CD Uncut No 41 October 2000 Christgau Robert 24 January 1984 Christgau s Consumer Guide The Village Voice Retrieved 29 April 2013 Snow Mat 26 March 1983 Absolutely Sweet Betweens NME London England p 26 Stafford Andrew 2004 Pig City From the Saints to Savage Garden p 145 ISBN 978 0 7022 3561 0 a b O Donnell John Creswell Toby Mathieson Craig October 2010 100 Best Australian Albums Prahran Vic Hardie Grant Books p 226 ISBN 978 1 74066 955 9 Cattle and Cane at APRA search engine Australasian Performing Right Association APRA Retrieved 22 July 2015 Retrieved from https en wikipedia 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