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Laconic phrase

A laconic phrase or laconism is a concise or terse statement, especially a blunt and elliptical rejoinder.[1][2] It is named after Laconia, the region of Greece including the city of Sparta, whose ancient inhabitants had a reputation for verbal austerity and were famous for their often pithy remarks.

Uses Edit

 
Bust of Philip II of Macedon

A laconic phrase may be used for efficiency (as during military training and operations), for emphasis, for philosophical reasons (especially among thinkers who believe in minimalism, such as Stoics), or to deflate a pompous interlocutor.

A prominent example involves Philip II of Macedon. After invading southern Greece and receiving the submission of other key city-states, he turned his attention to Sparta and asked menacingly whether he should come as friend or foe. The reply was "Neither."[3]

Losing patience, he sent the message:

If I invade Laconia, I shall turn you out.[4]

The Spartan ephors again replied with a single word:

If.[5]

Philip proceeded to invade Laconia, devastate much of it, and eject the Spartans from various parts.[6][note 1]

In humor Edit

The Spartans were especially famous for their dry, understated wit,[8] which is now known as "laconic humor". This can be contrasted with the "Attic salt" or "Attic wit" – the refined, poignant, delicate humour of Sparta's chief rival, Athens.[9]

Various groups in more recent history also have a reputation for laconic humor: Icelanders in the sagas,[10] and, in the Anglophone world, Australians (cf. Australian humor),[11][12][13] American cowboys,[14] New Englanders,[15] and people from Northern England.[16]

History Edit

 
Chilon of Sparta

Spartans paid less attention than other ancient Greeks to the development of education, arts, and literature.[17] Some view this as having contributed to the characteristically blunt Laconian speech. However, Socrates, in Plato's dialogue Protagoras, appears to reject the idea that Spartans' economy with words was simply a consequence of poor literary education: "... they conceal their wisdom, and pretend to be blockheads, so that they may seem to be superior only because of their prowess in battle ... This is how you may know that I am speaking the truth and that the Spartans are the best educated in philosophy and speaking: if you talk to any ordinary Spartan, he seems to be stupid, but eventually, like an expert marksman, he shoots in some brief remark that proves you to be only a child".[18][note 2] Socrates was known to have admired Spartan laws,[21] as did many other Athenians,[22] but modern scholars have doubted the seriousness of his attribution of a secret love of philosophy to Spartans.[23][24][19] Still, the Spartans Myson of Chenae and Chilon of Sparta have traditionally been counted among the Seven Sages of Greece; both were famous for many laconic sayings.[note 3]

In general, however, Spartans were expected to be men of few words, to hold rhetoric in disdain, and to stick to the point. Loquacity was considered frivolous and unbecoming of sensible, down-to-earth Spartan warriors. A Spartan youth was reportedly liable to have his thumb bitten as punishment for too verbose a response to a teacher's question.[27]

Examples Edit

Spartan Edit

 
Lycurgus
 
Leonidas, a sculpture (c. 475 BCE) unearthed in Sparta in 1926 (Archaeological Museum of Sparta)
  • A witticism attributed to Lycurgus, the possibly legendary lawgiver of Sparta, was a response to a proposal to set up a democracy there: "Begin with your own family."[28]
  • On another occasion, Lycurgus was reportedly asked the reason for the less-than-extravagant size of Sparta's sacrifices to the gods. He replied, "So that we may always have something to offer."[28]
  • When he was consulted on how Spartans might best forestall invasion of their homeland, Lycurgus advised, "By remaining poor, and each man not desiring to possess more than his fellow."[28]
  • When asked whether it would be prudent to build a defensive wall enclosing the city, Lycurgus answered, "A city is well-fortified which has a wall of men instead of brick."[28] (When another Spartan was later shown an Asian city with impressive fortifications, he remarked, "Fine quarters for women!"[29])
  • Responding to a visitor who questioned why they put their fields in the hands of the helots rather than cultivate them themselves, Anaxandridas explained, "It was by not taking care of the fields, but of ourselves, that we acquired those fields."[30]
  • King Demaratus, being pestered by someone with a question concerning who the most exemplary Spartan was, answered "He that is least like you."[28]
  • On her husband Leonidas's departure for battle with the Persians at Thermopylae, Gorgo, Queen of Sparta asked what she should do. He advised her: "Marry a good man and bear good children."[31][32]
  • Additionally, there are two examples from the Spartans (recorded by Herodotus), both concerning the Battle of Thermopylae, which have been featured in modern depictions of that battle. The first is a boast from one of the Persians that when battle is joined, "our arrows will block out the sun!" The Spartans nonchalantly responded: "then we will fight in the shade." The second concerns a Persian commander's demand that the Spartans and their allies surrender and lay down their weapons. The Spartans, deployed for battle, responded: "Come and take them!"
  • In an account from Herodotus, "When the banished Samians reached Sparta, they had audience of the magistrates, before whom they made a long speech, as was natural with persons greatly in want of aid. When it was over, the Spartans averred that they could no longer remember the first half of their speech, and thus could make nothing of the remainder. Afterwards the Samians had another audience, whereat they simply said, showing a bag which they had brought with them, 'The bag wants flour.' The Spartans answered that they did not need to have said 'the bag'; however, they resolved to give them aid."[33]
  • Polycratidas was one of several Spartans sent on a diplomatic mission to some Persian generals, and being asked whether they came in a private or a public capacity, answered, "If we succeed, public; if not, private."[28]
  • Following the disastrous sea battle of Cyzicus, the admiral Mindarus's first mate dispatched a succinct distress signal to Sparta. The message was intercepted by the Athenians and was recorded by Xenophon in his Hellenica: "Ships gone; Mindarus dead; the men starving; at our wits' end what to do".[34][35]

See also Edit

Notes Edit

  1. ^ Sparta then declined to participate in Macedon's invasion of the Persian Empire, a fact memorialized in a proclamation Alexander sent to Athens with armor captured at the Battle of the Granicus: "Alexander, son of Philip, and all the Greeks except the Lacedaemonians, present this offering from the spoils taken from the foreigners inhabiting Asia."[7]
  2. ^ An alternative translation based on those by A. Beresford and R.E. Allen is as follows: "...they claim not to have any interest in [philosophy] and put on this big show of being morons...because...they want people to think that their superiority rests on fighting battles and being manly... You can tell that what I say is true, and that Spartans are the best educated in philosophy and argument, by this: if one associates with the most inferior Spartan, one at first finds him somewhat inferior in speech; but then at some chance point in the discussion he throws in a remark worthy of noticing, brief and terse, like a skilled marksman, so that the person he's talking to appears no better than a child."[19][20]
  3. ^ Examples include "We should not investigate facts by the light of arguments, but arguments by the light of facts" for Myson,[25] and "Do not let one's tongue outrun one's sense" for Chilon.[26]

References Edit

  1. ^ Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Synonyms, 1984, s.v. 'concise' p. 172.
  2. ^ Henry Percy Smith, Synonyms Discriminated (1904) p. 541.
  3. ^ Plutarch, Apophthegmata Laconica, 233e 1 2.
  4. ^ Plutarch; W.C. Helmbold. "De Garrulitate". Perseus Digital Library. Tufts University. Retrieved 5 May 2021. ἂν ἐμβάλω εἰς τὴν Λακωνικήν, ἀναστάτους ὑμᾶς ποιήσω
  5. ^ Plutarch, De garrulitate, 17 1 2 or .
  6. ^ Cartledge, Paul (2002). Sparta and Lakonia: A Regional History, 1300-362 B.C. (2nd ed.). New York: Routledge. p. 273. ISBN 0-415-26276-3. Philip laid Lakonia waste as far south as Gytheion and formally deprived Sparta of Dentheliatis (and apparently the territory on the Messenian Gulf as far as the Little Pamisos river), Belminatis, the territory of Karyai and the east Parnon foreland.
  7. ^ Arrian, Anabasis Alexandri, I, 16, 7.
  8. ^ Stuttard, David (14 October 2014). A History of Ancient Greece in Fifty Lives. Thames & Hudson. p. 88. ISBN 978-0-500-77221-8.
  9. ^ Belfield, Henry H. (1897). Lord Chesterfield's letters to his son and godson. Maynard, Merrill & Co. p. 48. ISBN 978-5871542569. supposed to be peculiar.
  10. ^ Peter Hallberg, The Icelandic Saga, p. 115.
  11. ^ Willbanks, R. (1991). Australian Voices: Writers and Their Work. University of Texas Press. p. 117. ISBN 978-0-292-78558-8. OCLC 23220737.
  12. ^ Bell, S.; Bell, K.; Byrne, R. (2013). . Australian Tales. Australian-Information-Stories.com. Archived from the original on 2013-01-22. Retrieved 2014-08-30.
  13. ^ Jones, D. (1993). "Edgy laughter: Women and Australian humour". Australian Literary Studies. 16 (2): 161–167. Retrieved 2016-09-03.
  14. ^ Collier, P.; Horowitz, D. (1995). Roosevelts: An American Saga. Simon & Schuster. p. 66. ISBN 9780684801407. Retrieved 2017-01-14.
  15. ^ "The Problems of Rural New England". The Atlantic Monthly. Atlantic Monthly Company. May 1897. p. 589.
  16. ^ Urdang, L. (1988). Names and Nicknames of Places and Things. Penguin Group USA. ISBN 9780452009073. Retrieved 2017-01-14.
  17. ^ Plato, Hippias Major 285b–d.
  18. ^ Protagoras 342b, d–e, from the translation given at the end of the section on Lycurgus in .
  19. ^ a b Beresford, A., Plato: Protagoras and Meno, Penguin Books 2005, p. 151.; see commentary (click on "61" link).
  20. ^ Allen, R.E. (1984). The Dialogues of Plato. Vol. 3: Ion, Hippias Minor, Laches, and Protagoras. Yale University Press. pp. 202–203. ISBN 978-0300074383.
  21. ^ Plato, Crito 52e.
  22. ^ Plato, Republic 544c.
  23. ^ Taylor, A.E., Plato: The Man and His Work, Meridian Books, 6th ed., 1949; on p. 255 Taylor suggests Socrates is mocking, in jest, other Greeks who affect a Spartan lifestyle as the epitome of rugged manliness for not realizing their models are closet intellectuals.
  24. ^ Taylor, C.C.W., Plato: Protagoras, Oxford University Press, ISBN 978-0199555659, 2009; pp. 43, 83.
  25. ^ Diogenes Laërtius. Lives of the Eminent Philosophers. Translated by Pamela Mensch. Oxford University Press. 2018. ISBN 978-0190862183 p. 52.
  26. ^ Diogenes Laërtius, p. 34.
  27. ^ Paul Cartledge (2003). Spartan Reflections. University of California Press. p. 85. ISBN 978-0-520-23124-5. Retrieved 2012-12-13.
  28. ^ a b c d e f Plutarch, Life of Lycurgus 1 2 3.
  29. ^ Plutarch, Apophthegmata Laconica, 230c.
  30. ^ Plutarch, Apophthegmata Laconica (Sayings of Spartans), 217a. This work may or may not be by Plutarch himself, but is included among the Moralia, a collection of works attributed to him but outside the collection of his most famous works, the Parallel Lives.
  31. ^ Plutarch, Apophthegmata Laconica, 225a.
  32. ^ Plutarch, Lacaenarum Apophthegmata (Sayings of Spartan Women), 240e. This work may or may not be by Plutarch himself, but is included among the Moralia, a collection of works attributed to him but outside the collection of his most famous works, the Parallel Lives.
  33. ^ Herodotus Histories, Book 3, section 46.
  34. ^ Xenophon, Hellenica 1.1.23.
  35. ^ Xenophon (1918). "Book 1, Chapter 1, Section 23". Xenophon in Seven Volumes. Translated by Brownson, C. L. Heinemann. from the original on 2014-09-20. Retrieved 2014-09-20.

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A laconic phrase or laconism is a concise or terse statement especially a blunt and elliptical rejoinder 1 2 It is named after Laconia the region of Greece including the city of Sparta whose ancient inhabitants had a reputation for verbal austerity and were famous for their often pithy remarks Contents 1 Uses 1 1 In humor 2 History 3 Examples 3 1 Spartan 4 See also 5 Notes 6 References 7 External linksUses Edit Bust of Philip II of MacedonA laconic phrase may be used for efficiency as during military training and operations for emphasis for philosophical reasons especially among thinkers who believe in minimalism such as Stoics or to deflate a pompous interlocutor A prominent example involves Philip II of Macedon After invading southern Greece and receiving the submission of other key city states he turned his attention to Sparta and asked menacingly whether he should come as friend or foe The reply was Neither 3 Losing patience he sent the message If I invade Laconia I shall turn you out 4 The Spartan ephors again replied with a single word If 5 Philip proceeded to invade Laconia devastate much of it and eject the Spartans from various parts 6 note 1 In humor Edit The Spartans were especially famous for their dry understated wit 8 which is now known as laconic humor This can be contrasted with the Attic salt or Attic wit the refined poignant delicate humour of Sparta s chief rival Athens 9 Various groups in more recent history also have a reputation for laconic humor Icelanders in the sagas 10 and in the Anglophone world Australians cf Australian humor 11 12 13 American cowboys 14 New Englanders 15 and people from Northern England 16 History Edit Chilon of SpartaSpartans paid less attention than other ancient Greeks to the development of education arts and literature 17 Some view this as having contributed to the characteristically blunt Laconian speech However Socrates in Plato s dialogue Protagoras appears to reject the idea that Spartans economy with words was simply a consequence of poor literary education they conceal their wisdom and pretend to be blockheads so that they may seem to be superior only because of their prowess in battle This is how you may know that I am speaking the truth and that the Spartans are the best educated in philosophy and speaking if you talk to any ordinary Spartan he seems to be stupid but eventually like an expert marksman he shoots in some brief remark that proves you to be only a child 18 note 2 Socrates was known to have admired Spartan laws 21 as did many other Athenians 22 but modern scholars have doubted the seriousness of his attribution of a secret love of philosophy to Spartans 23 24 19 Still the Spartans Myson of Chenae and Chilon of Sparta have traditionally been counted among the Seven Sages of Greece both were famous for many laconic sayings note 3 In general however Spartans were expected to be men of few words to hold rhetoric in disdain and to stick to the point Loquacity was considered frivolous and unbecoming of sensible down to earth Spartan warriors A Spartan youth was reportedly liable to have his thumb bitten as punishment for too verbose a response to a teacher s question 27 Examples EditSpartan Edit Lycurgus Leonidas a sculpture c 475 BCE unearthed in Sparta in 1926 Archaeological Museum of Sparta A witticism attributed to Lycurgus the possibly legendary lawgiver of Sparta was a response to a proposal to set up a democracy there Begin with your own family 28 On another occasion Lycurgus was reportedly asked the reason for the less than extravagant size of Sparta s sacrifices to the gods He replied So that we may always have something to offer 28 When he was consulted on how Spartans might best forestall invasion of their homeland Lycurgus advised By remaining poor and each man not desiring to possess more than his fellow 28 When asked whether it would be prudent to build a defensive wall enclosing the city Lycurgus answered A city is well fortified which has a wall of men instead of brick 28 When another Spartan was later shown an Asian city with impressive fortifications he remarked Fine quarters for women 29 Responding to a visitor who questioned why they put their fields in the hands of the helots rather than cultivate them themselves Anaxandridas explained It was by not taking care of the fields but of ourselves that we acquired those fields 30 King Demaratus being pestered by someone with a question concerning who the most exemplary Spartan was answered He that is least like you 28 On her husband Leonidas s departure for battle with the Persians at Thermopylae Gorgo Queen of Sparta asked what she should do He advised her Marry a good man and bear good children 31 32 Additionally there are two examples from the Spartans recorded by Herodotus both concerning the Battle of Thermopylae which have been featured in modern depictions of that battle The first is a boast from one of the Persians that when battle is joined our arrows will block out the sun The Spartans nonchalantly responded then we will fight in the shade The second concerns a Persian commander s demand that the Spartans and their allies surrender and lay down their weapons The Spartans deployed for battle responded Come and take them In an account from Herodotus When the banished Samians reached Sparta they had audience of the magistrates before whom they made a long speech as was natural with persons greatly in want of aid When it was over the Spartans averred that they could no longer remember the first half of their speech and thus could make nothing of the remainder Afterwards the Samians had another audience whereat they simply said showing a bag which they had brought with them The bag wants flour The Spartans answered that they did not need to have said the bag however they resolved to give them aid 33 Polycratidas was one of several Spartans sent on a diplomatic mission to some Persian generals and being asked whether they came in a private or a public capacity answered If we succeed public if not private 28 Following the disastrous sea battle of Cyzicus the admiral Mindarus s first mate dispatched a succinct distress signal to Sparta The message was intercepted by the Athenians and was recorded by Xenophon in his Hellenica Ships gone Mindarus dead the men starving at our wits end what to do 34 35 See also EditAphorism One line jokeNotes Edit Sparta then declined to participate in Macedon s invasion of the Persian Empire a fact memorialized in a proclamation Alexander sent to Athens with armor captured at the Battle of the Granicus Alexander son of Philip and all the Greeks except the Lacedaemonians present this offering from the spoils taken from the foreigners inhabiting Asia 7 An alternative translation based on those by A Beresford and R E Allen is as follows they claim not to have any interest in philosophy and put on this big show of being morons because they want people to think that their superiority rests on fighting battles and being manly You can tell that what I say is true and that Spartans are the best educated in philosophy and argument by this if one associates with the most inferior Spartan one at first finds him somewhat inferior in speech but then at some chance point in the discussion he throws in a remark worthy of noticing brief and terse like a skilled marksman so that the person he s talking to appears no better than a child 19 20 Examples include We should not investigate facts by the light of arguments but arguments by the light of facts for Myson 25 and Do not let one s tongue outrun one s sense for Chilon 26 References Edit Merriam Webster s Dictionary of Synonyms 1984 s v concise p 172 Henry Percy Smith Synonyms Discriminated 1904 p 541 Plutarch Apophthegmata Laconica 233e 1 2 Plutarch W C Helmbold De Garrulitate Perseus Digital Library Tufts University Retrieved 5 May 2021 ἂn ἐmbalw eἰs tὴn Lakwnikhn ἀnastatoys ὑmᾶs poihsw Plutarch De garrulitate 17 1 2 or 3 Cartledge Paul 2002 Sparta and Lakonia A Regional History 1300 362 B C 2nd ed New York Routledge p 273 ISBN 0 415 26276 3 Philip laid Lakonia waste as far south as Gytheion and formally deprived Sparta of Dentheliatis and apparently the territory on the Messenian Gulf as far as the Little Pamisos river Belminatis the territory of Karyai and the east Parnon foreland Arrian Anabasis Alexandri I 16 7 Stuttard David 14 October 2014 A History of Ancient Greece in Fifty Lives Thames amp Hudson p 88 ISBN 978 0 500 77221 8 Belfield Henry H 1897 Lord Chesterfield s letters to his son and godson Maynard Merrill amp Co p 48 ISBN 978 5871542569 supposed to be peculiar Peter Hallberg The Icelandic Saga p 115 Willbanks R 1991 Australian Voices Writers and Their Work University of Texas Press p 117 ISBN 978 0 292 78558 8 OCLC 23220737 Bell S Bell K Byrne R 2013 Australian Humour What Makes Aussies Laugh Australian Tales Australian Information Stories com Archived from the original on 2013 01 22 Retrieved 2014 08 30 Jones D 1993 Edgy laughter Women and Australian humour Australian Literary Studies 16 2 161 167 Retrieved 2016 09 03 Collier P Horowitz D 1995 Roosevelts An American Saga Simon amp Schuster p 66 ISBN 9780684801407 Retrieved 2017 01 14 The Problems of Rural New England The Atlantic Monthly Atlantic Monthly Company May 1897 p 589 Urdang L 1988 Names and Nicknames of Places and Things Penguin Group USA ISBN 9780452009073 Retrieved 2017 01 14 Plato Hippias Major 285b d Protagoras 342b d e from the translation given at the end of the section on Lycurgus in e classics com a b Beresford A Plato Protagoras and Meno Penguin Books 2005 p 151 see commentary click on 61 link Allen R E 1984 The Dialogues of Plato Vol 3 Ion Hippias Minor Laches and Protagoras Yale University Press pp 202 203 ISBN 978 0300074383 Plato Crito 52e Plato Republic 544c Taylor A E Plato The Man and His Work Meridian Books 6th ed 1949 on p 255 Taylor suggests Socrates is mocking in jest other Greeks who affect a Spartan lifestyle as the epitome of rugged manliness for not realizing their models are closet intellectuals Taylor C C W Plato Protagoras Oxford University Press ISBN 978 0199555659 2009 pp 43 83 Diogenes Laertius Lives of the Eminent Philosophers Translated by Pamela Mensch Oxford University Press 2018 ISBN 978 0190862183 p 52 Diogenes Laertius p 34 Paul Cartledge 2003 Spartan Reflections University of California Press p 85 ISBN 978 0 520 23124 5 Retrieved 2012 12 13 a b c d e f Plutarch Life of Lycurgus 1 2 3 Plutarch Apophthegmata Laconica 230c Plutarch Apophthegmata Laconica Sayings of Spartans 217a This work may or may not be by Plutarch himself but is included among the Moralia a collection of works attributed to him but outside the collection of his most famous works the Parallel Lives Plutarch Apophthegmata Laconica 225a Plutarch Lacaenarum Apophthegmata Sayings of Spartan Women 240e This work may or may not be by Plutarch himself but is included among the Moralia a collection of works attributed to him but outside the collection of his most famous works the Parallel Lives Herodotus Histories Book 3 section 46 Xenophon Hellenica 1 1 23 Xenophon 1918 Book 1 Chapter 1 Section 23 Xenophon in Seven Volumes Translated by Brownson C L Heinemann Archived from the original on 2014 09 20 Retrieved 2014 09 20 External links EditLaconic phrase at Wikipedia s sister projects Definitions from Wiktionary Data from Wikidata Quotations related to Laconic phrases at Wikiquote additional examples of laconic phrases Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Laconic phrase amp oldid 1153719876 In humor, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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