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Argument Clinic

April 09, 2024

"Argument Clinic" is a sketch from Monty Python's Flying Circus, written by John Cleese and Graham Chapman. The sketch was originally broadcast as part of the television series and has subsequently been performed live by the group. It relies heavily on wordplay and dialogue, and has been used as an example of how language works.

Argument Clinic
Cleese and Palin performing the sketch live in 2014
WritersJohn Cleese
Graham Chapman
ActorsMichael Palin
John Cleese
Graham Chapman
Eric Idle
Terry Jones
Rita Davies
Carol Cleveland
Dawn French
Chris Langham
First appearance"The Money Programme" (2 November 1972)[1]

Plot edit

After the episode's end credits have scrolled, a BBC voiceover announces that there will be "Five more minutes of Monty Python's Flying Circus."[2] In the ensuing sketch, an unnamed man portrayed by Michael Palin approaches a receptionist (Rita Davies) and says that he would like to have an argument. She directs him to a Mr. Barnard who occupies an office along the corridor. Palin enters an office in which a man played by Graham Chapman hurls angry insults at him. Palin says that he came into Chapman's room for an argument, causing Chapman to apologize and clarify that his office is dedicated to "abuse". Even after politely sending Palin on his way, Chapman calls him a "stupid git".[2]

Palin enters the next office, which contains Mr. Barnard played by John Cleese. Palin asks if he is in the right office for an argument, to which Cleese responds that he has already told him he is. Palin disputes this, and the men begin an argumentative back-and-forth exchange. Their exchange is a very shallow one, consisting mostly of petty and contradictory "is/isn't" responses, to the point that Palin feels that he is not getting what he paid for. They then argue over the very definition of an argument until Cleese rings a bell and announces that Palin's paid time has concluded.

Palin is dissatisfied and tries to argue with Cleese over whether he really got as much time as he paid for, but Cleese insists that he is not allowed to argue unless Palin pays for another session. Palin finally relents and pays more money for additional arguing time, but Cleese continues to insist that he has not paid, and another argument breaks out over that issue. Palin believes that he has caught Cleese in a contradiction—arguing without being paid—but Cleese counters that he could be arguing in his spare time. Frustrated, Palin storms out of the room.

The original broadcast version features Palin exploring other rooms in the clinic; he enters a room marked "Complaints" hoping to lodge a complaint, only to find that it is a complaint clinic in which Eric Idle is complaining about his shoes. The next office contains Terry Jones offering "being-hit-on-the-head lessons", which Palin finds a stupid concept. Eventually, a series of policemen enter the room to end the sketch, one remarking on the frequency of sketches that end in policemen halting the skit. As he realizes that he is a part of the skits’ absurdity, another policeman enters the room, and the sketch ends.[2]

Writing edit

The sketch parodies modern consumer culture, implying that anything can be purchased, even absurd things such as arguing, abuse, or being hit over the head.[3] The sketch was typical for Cleese's and Chapman's writing at the time, as it relied on verbal comedy.[4] Python author Darl Larsen believes the sketch was influenced by music hall and radio comedy, particularly that of the Goons, and notes that there is little camera movement during the original television recording.[3]

One line in the middle of the sketch, "An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a definite proposition" was taken almost verbatim from the Oxford English Dictionary.[3]

Performances edit

The sketch originally appeared in the 29th episode of the original television series, entitled "The Money Programme",[5] and was released (in audio only) on the LP Monty Python's Previous Record, on Charisma Records in 1972.[6]

The sketch was subsequently performed live at the Hollywood Bowl in September 1980, which was filmed and released as Monty Python Live at the Hollywood Bowl.[7] The sketch features the discussion with the receptionist (played here by Carol Cleveland), the abuse from Chapman, and most of the argument between Cleese and Palin. It is then ended abruptly by the entrance of Terry Gilliam, on wires, singing "I've Got Two Legs".[8] A further live performance occurred in 1989 at the Secret Policeman's Ball, where Cleveland's and Chapman's roles were replaced by Dawn French and Chris Langham. This performance was subsequently released on DVD.[9] The sketch was performed again in July 2014 during Monty Python Live (Mostly), with Terry Jones filling in for Chapman's role and Gilliam reprising "I've Got Two Legs".[10]

Cultural references edit

The sketch has been frequently used as an example of how not to argue, because, as Palin's character notes, it contains little more than ad hominem attacks and contradiction,[11] and does not contribute to critical thinking.[12] It has also been described as a "classical case in point" of dialogue where two parties are unwilling to co-operate,[13] and as an example of flawed logic, since Palin is attempting to argue that Cleese is not arguing with him.[14]

The text of the argument has been presented as a good example of the workings of English grammar, where sentences can be reduced to simple subject/verb pairs.[15] It has been included as an example of analysing English in school textbooks.[1] The sketch has become popular with philosophy students, who note that arguing is "all we are good at", and wonder about the intellectual exercise one could get from paying for a professional quality debate.[16]

The Python programming language, which contains many Monty Python references as feature names, has an internal-only module called "Argument Clinic" to pre-process Python files.[17][18]

The sketch is referenced in a line of dialogue in the TV show House, season 6, episode 10, 'Wilson'. The character Dr. Wilson says to Dr. House "I didn't come here for an argument", to which House replies "No, right, that's room 12A", echoing the lines from the 'abuse room' in the Argument Clinic sketch.

See also edit

References edit

Citations edit

  1. ^ a b Mullany, Louise; Stockwell, Peter (2010). Introducing English Language: A Resource Book for Students. Routledge. p. 175. ISBN 9780203858110.
  2. ^ a b c Monty Python (1989). The Complete Monty Python's Flying Circus: All the Words, Volume 2. Pantheon Books. p. 86. ISBN 9780679726487.
  3. ^ a b c Larsen 2008, p. 376.
  4. ^ Berman, Garry (2011). Best of the Britcoms: From Fawlty Towers to The Office. Taylor Trade Publications. p. 18. ISBN 9781589795662.
  5. ^ Brighouse 2013, p. 50.
  6. ^ McCall, Douglas (1991). Monty Python: a chronological listing of the troupe's creative output, and articles and reviews about them, 1969–1989. McFarland. p. 60. ISBN 9780899505596.
  7. ^ Canby, Vincent (25 June 1982). "'Python' in Hollywood". The New York Times. Retrieved 15 September 2013.
  8. ^ McCall, Douglas (2013). Monty Python: A Chronology, 1969–2012. McFarland. p. 88. ISBN 978-0-786-47811-8.
  9. ^ "The Secret Policemens Balls". Read Express. The Washington Post Company. 28 January 2009. Retrieved 15 September 2013.
  10. ^ Cavendish, Dominic (2 July 2014). "The (almost) definitive guide to Monty Python Live (Mostly)". The Daily Telegraph. Retrieved 5 June 2015.
  11. ^ Polski, Margaret (2008). Wired for Survival: The Rational (and Irrational) Choices We Make, from the Gas Pump to Terrorism. FT Press. p. 50. ISBN 9780138140595.
  12. ^ Staley, Constance; Staley, Steve (2011). FOCUS on College and Career Success. Cengage Learning. pp. 109–110. ISBN 9781439083901.
  13. ^ Beun, Robbert-Jan; Baker, Michael; Reiner, Miriam, eds. (1995). Dialogue and Instruction: Modelling Interaction in Intelligent Tutoring Systems. Springer. p. 22. ISBN 9783540588344.
  14. ^ Falzon, Christopher (2007). Philosophy Goes to the Movies: An Introduction to Philosophy. Routledge. p. 218. ISBN 9780415357258.
  15. ^ Fontaine, Lise (2012). Analysing English Grammar: A Systemic Functional Introduction. Cambridge University Press. p. 115. ISBN 9780521190664.
  16. ^ Brighouse 2013, p. 52.
  17. ^ "Argument Clinic How-To — Python 3.10.0 documentation".
  18. ^ "PEP 436 -- the Argument Clinic DSL".

Sources edit

  • Brighouse, Harry (2013). Monty Python and Philosophy: Nudge Nudge, Think Think!. Open Court. ISBN 9780812696981.
  • Larsen, Darl (2008). Monty Python's Flying Circus: An Utterly Complete, Thoroughly Unillustrated, Absolutely Unauthorized Guide to Possibly All the References : from Arthur "Two-Sheds" Jackson to Zambesi. Rowman and Littlefield. ISBN 9780810861312.

External links edit

  • Live performance at the Secret Policeman's Ball (from the official channel)
  • Transcription of the script

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Argument Clinic is a sketch from Monty Python s Flying Circus written by John Cleese and Graham Chapman The sketch was originally broadcast as part of the television series and has subsequently been performed live by the group It relies heavily on wordplay and dialogue and has been used as an example of how language works Argument ClinicCleese and Palin performing the sketch live in 2014WritersJohn CleeseGraham ChapmanActorsMichael PalinJohn CleeseGraham ChapmanEric IdleTerry JonesRita DaviesCarol ClevelandDawn FrenchChris LanghamFirst appearance The Money Programme 2 November 1972 1 vte Contents 1 Plot 2 Writing 3 Performances 4 Cultural references 5 See also 6 References 6 1 Citations 6 2 Sources 7 External linksPlot editAfter the episode s end credits have scrolled a BBC voiceover announces that there will be Five more minutes of Monty Python s Flying Circus 2 In the ensuing sketch an unnamed man portrayed by Michael Palin approaches a receptionist Rita Davies and says that he would like to have an argument She directs him to a Mr Barnard who occupies an office along the corridor Palin enters an office in which a man played by Graham Chapman hurls angry insults at him Palin says that he came into Chapman s room for an argument causing Chapman to apologize and clarify that his office is dedicated to abuse Even after politely sending Palin on his way Chapman calls him a stupid git 2 Palin enters the next office which contains Mr Barnard played by John Cleese Palin asks if he is in the right office for an argument to which Cleese responds that he has already told him he is Palin disputes this and the men begin an argumentative back and forth exchange Their exchange is a very shallow one consisting mostly of petty and contradictory is isn t responses to the point that Palin feels that he is not getting what he paid for They then argue over the very definition of an argument until Cleese rings a bell and announces that Palin s paid time has concluded Palin is dissatisfied and tries to argue with Cleese over whether he really got as much time as he paid for but Cleese insists that he is not allowed to argue unless Palin pays for another session Palin finally relents and pays more money for additional arguing time but Cleese continues to insist that he has not paid and another argument breaks out over that issue Palin believes that he has caught Cleese in a contradiction arguing without being paid but Cleese counters that he could be arguing in his spare time Frustrated Palin storms out of the room The original broadcast version features Palin exploring other rooms in the clinic he enters a room marked Complaints hoping to lodge a complaint only to find that it is a complaint clinic in which Eric Idle is complaining about his shoes The next office contains Terry Jones offering being hit on the head lessons which Palin finds a stupid concept Eventually a series of policemen enter the room to end the sketch one remarking on the frequency of sketches that end in policemen halting the skit As he realizes that he is a part of the skits absurdity another policeman enters the room and the sketch ends 2 Writing editThe sketch parodies modern consumer culture implying that anything can be purchased even absurd things such as arguing abuse or being hit over the head 3 The sketch was typical for Cleese s and Chapman s writing at the time as it relied on verbal comedy 4 Python author Darl Larsen believes the sketch was influenced by music hall and radio comedy particularly that of the Goons and notes that there is little camera movement during the original television recording 3 One line in the middle of the sketch An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a definite proposition was taken almost verbatim from the Oxford English Dictionary 3 Performances editThe sketch originally appeared in the 29th episode of the original television series entitled The Money Programme 5 and was released in audio only on the LP Monty Python s Previous Record on Charisma Records in 1972 6 The sketch was subsequently performed live at the Hollywood Bowl in September 1980 which was filmed and released as Monty Python Live at the Hollywood Bowl 7 The sketch features the discussion with the receptionist played here by Carol Cleveland the abuse from Chapman and most of the argument between Cleese and Palin It is then ended abruptly by the entrance of Terry Gilliam on wires singing I ve Got Two Legs 8 A further live performance occurred in 1989 at the Secret Policeman s Ball where Cleveland s and Chapman s roles were replaced by Dawn French and Chris Langham This performance was subsequently released on DVD 9 The sketch was performed again in July 2014 during Monty Python Live Mostly with Terry Jones filling in for Chapman s role and Gilliam reprising I ve Got Two Legs 10 Cultural references editThe sketch has been frequently used as an example of how not to argue because as Palin s character notes it contains little more than ad hominem attacks and contradiction 11 and does not contribute to critical thinking 12 It has also been described as a classical case in point of dialogue where two parties are unwilling to co operate 13 and as an example of flawed logic since Palin is attempting to argue that Cleese is not arguing with him 14 The text of the argument has been presented as a good example of the workings of English grammar where sentences can be reduced to simple subject verb pairs 15 It has been included as an example of analysing English in school textbooks 1 The sketch has become popular with philosophy students who note that arguing is all we are good at and wonder about the intellectual exercise one could get from paying for a professional quality debate 16 The Python programming language which contains many Monty Python references as feature names has an internal only module called Argument Clinic to pre process Python files 17 18 The sketch is referenced in a line of dialogue in the TV show House season 6 episode 10 Wilson The character Dr Wilson says to Dr House I didn t come here for an argument to which House replies No right that s room 12A echoing the lines from the abuse room in the Argument Clinic sketch See also editEquivocation Ipse dixit Kettle logicReferences editCitations edit a b Mullany Louise Stockwell Peter 2010 Introducing English Language A Resource Book for Students Routledge p 175 ISBN 9780203858110 a b c Monty Python 1989 The Complete Monty Python s Flying Circus All the Words Volume 2 Pantheon Books p 86 ISBN 9780679726487 a b c Larsen 2008 p 376 Berman Garry 2011 Best of the Britcoms From Fawlty Towers to The Office Taylor Trade Publications p 18 ISBN 9781589795662 Brighouse 2013 p 50 McCall Douglas 1991 Monty Python a chronological listing of the troupe s creative output and articles and reviews about them 1969 1989 McFarland p 60 ISBN 9780899505596 Canby Vincent 25 June 1982 Python in Hollywood The New York Times Retrieved 15 September 2013 McCall Douglas 2013 Monty Python A Chronology 1969 2012 McFarland p 88 ISBN 978 0 786 47811 8 The Secret Policemens Balls Read Express The Washington Post Company 28 January 2009 Retrieved 15 September 2013 Cavendish Dominic 2 July 2014 The almost definitive guide to Monty Python Live Mostly The Daily Telegraph Retrieved 5 June 2015 Polski Margaret 2008 Wired for Survival The Rational and Irrational Choices We Make from the Gas Pump to Terrorism FT Press p 50 ISBN 9780138140595 Staley Constance Staley Steve 2011 FOCUS on College and Career Success Cengage Learning pp 109 110 ISBN 9781439083901 Beun Robbert Jan Baker Michael Reiner Miriam eds 1995 Dialogue and Instruction Modelling Interaction in Intelligent Tutoring Systems Springer p 22 ISBN 9783540588344 Falzon Christopher 2007 Philosophy Goes to the Movies An Introduction to Philosophy Routledge p 218 ISBN 9780415357258 Fontaine Lise 2012 Analysing English Grammar A Systemic Functional Introduction Cambridge University Press p 115 ISBN 9780521190664 Brighouse 2013 p 52 Argument Clinic How To Python 3 10 0 documentation PEP 436 the Argument Clinic DSL Sources edit Brighouse Harry 2013 Monty Python and Philosophy Nudge Nudge Think Think Open Court ISBN 9780812696981 Larsen Darl 2008 Monty Python s Flying Circus An Utterly Complete Thoroughly Unillustrated Absolutely Unauthorized Guide to Possibly All the References from Arthur Two Sheds Jackson to Zambesi Rowman and Littlefield ISBN 9780810861312 External links editLive performance at the Secret Policeman s Ball from the official channel Transcription of the script Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Argument Clinic amp oldid 1198003708, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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