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Agnostic atheism

Agnostic atheism or atheistic agnosticism is a philosophical position that encompasses both atheism and agnosticism. Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and are agnostic because they claim that the existence of a divine entity or entities is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact.

The agnostic atheist may be contrasted with the agnostic theist, who believes that one or more deities exist but claims that the existence or nonexistence of such is unknown or cannot be known.[1][2][3]

History Edit

 
Nonreligious population by country, 2010[4]

One of the earliest definitions of agnostic atheism is that of theologian and philosopher Robert Flint, in his Croall Lecture of 1887–1888 (published in 1903 under the title Agnosticism).

The atheist may however be, and not unfrequently is, an agnostic. There is an agnostic atheism or atheistic agnosticism, and the combination of atheism with agnosticism which may be so named is not an uncommon one.[5]

If a man has failed to find any good reason for believing that there is a God, it is perfectly natural and rational that he should not believe that there is a God; and if so, he is an atheist... if he goes farther, and, after an investigation into the nature and reach of human knowledge, ending in the conclusion that the existence of God is incapable of proof, cease to believe in it on the ground that he cannot know it to be true, he is an agnostic and also an atheist – an agnostic-atheist – an atheist because an agnostic... while, then, it is erroneous to identify agnosticism and atheism, it is equally erroneous so to separate them as if the one were exclusive of the other...[5]

In 1885 Robert G. Ingersoll, popularly known as "The Great Agnostic", explained his comparative view of agnosticism and atheism as follows:[6]

The Agnostic is an Atheist. The Atheist is an Agnostic. The Agnostic says, "I do not know, but I do not believe there is any God." The Atheist says the same.

Epistemological arguments Edit

Epistemological, or agnostic, atheism argues that people cannot know a God or determine the existence of a God. The foundation of epistemological atheism is agnosticism, which takes a variety of forms. In the philosophy of immanence, divinity is inseparable from the world itself, including a person's mind, and each person's consciousness is locked in the subject. According to this form of agnosticism, this limitation in perspective prevents any objective inference from belief in a god to assertions of its existence.

The rationalistic agnosticism of Kant and the Enlightenment only accepts knowledge deduced with human rationality; this form of atheism holds that gods are not discernible as a matter of principle, and therefore cannot be known to exist. Skepticism, based on the ideas of Hume, asserts that certainty about anything is impossible, so one can never know for sure whether or not a god exists. Hume, however, held that such unobservable metaphysical concepts should be rejected as "sophistry and illusion". The allocation of agnosticism to atheism is disputed; it can also be regarded as an independent, basic worldview.

Other arguments for atheism that can be classified as epistemological or ontological, including logical positivism and ignosticism, assert the meaninglessness or unintelligibility of basic terms such as "God" and statements such as "God is all-powerful." Theological noncognitivism holds that the statement "God exists" does not express a proposition, but is nonsensical or cognitively meaningless. It has been argued both ways as to whether such individuals can be classified into some form of atheism or agnosticism. Philosophers A. J. Ayer and Theodore M. Drange reject both categories, stating that both camps accept "God exists" as a proposition; they instead place noncognitivism in its own category.[7][8]

References Edit

  1. ^ Harrison, Alexander James (1894). The Ascent of Faith: or, the Grounds of Certainty in Science and Religion. London: Hodder and Stroughton. p. 21. OCLC 7234849. OL 21834002M. Let Agnostic Theism stand for that kind of Agnosticism which admits a Divine existence; Agnostic Atheism for that kind of Agnosticism which thinks it does not.
  2. ^ Smith, George H (1979). Atheism: The Case Against God. Prometheus Books. pp. 10–11. ISBN 9780879751241. Properly considered, agnosticism is not a third alternative to theism and atheism because it is concerned with a different aspect of religious belief. Theism and atheism refer to the presence or absence of belief in a god; agnosticism refers to the impossibility of knowledge with regard to a god or supernatural being. The term "agnostic" does not, in itself, indicate whether or not one believes in a god. Agnosticism can be either theistic or atheistic.
  3. ^ Barker, Dan (2008). Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists. New York: Ulysses Press. p. 96. ISBN 9781569756775. OL 24313839M. People are invariably surprised to hear me say I am both an atheist and an agnostic, as if this somehow weakens my certainty. I usually reply with a question like, "Well, are you a Republican or an American?" The two words serve different concepts and are not mutually exclusive. Agnosticism addresses knowledge; atheism addresses belief. The agnostic says, "I don't have a knowledge that God exists." The atheist says, "I don't have a belief that God exists." You can say both things at the same time. Some agnostics are atheistic and some are theistic.
  4. ^ "Religious Composition by Country, 2010-2050". Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project. 2015-04-02. Retrieved 2020-04-27.
  5. ^ a b Flint, Robert (1903). Agnosticism: The Croall Lecture for 1887–88. William Blackwood and Sons. pp. 49–51. OL 7193167M.
  6. ^ Jacoby, Susan (2013). The Great Agnostic. Yale University Press. p. 17. ISBN 978-0-300-13725-5.
  7. ^ Drange, Theodore M. (1998). "Atheism, Agnosticism, Noncognitivism". Internet Infidels, Secular Web Library. Retrieved 2007-APR-07.
  8. ^ Ayer, A. J. (1946). Language, Truth and Logic. Dover. pp. 115–116. In a footnote, Ayer attributes this view to "Professor H. H. Price".

Further reading Edit

  • Howe, Frederic R. Challenge and Response. Grand Rapids: The Zondervan Corporation, 1982. ISBN 0-310-45070-5
  • Martin, Michael. Theism. MSN Encarta, 2000. Microsoft Corporation.
  • Martin, Michael. Atheism: A Philosophical Justification. Philadelphia: Temple UP, 1992. ISBN 0-87722-943-0
  • Smith, George H. Atheism: The Case Against God. 1st ed. Amherst: Prometheus Books, 1980. ISBN 0-87975-124-X
  • Stein, Gordon. The Encyclopedia of Unbelief. Amherst: Prometheus Books, 1985. ISBN 0-87975-307-2
  • Agnosticism. Forgotten Books. pp. 164–. ISBN 978-1-4400-6878-2.
  • Richard Dawkins, "The poverty of agnosticism", in The God Delusion, Black Swan, 2007 (ISBN 978-0-552-77429-1).
  • Robin Le Poidevin (October 28, 2010). Agnosticism: A Very Short Introduction. OUP Oxford. ISBN 978-0-19-957526-8.
  • Thomas H. Huxley (February 4, 2013). Man's Place in Nature. Courier Dover Publications. pp. 1–. ISBN 978-0-486-15134-2.
  • David Hume (1779). Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion. Penguin Books, Limited. pp. 1–.
  • Immanuel Kant (May 28, 2013). The Critique of Pure Reason. Loki's Publishing. ISBN 978-0-615-82576-2.
  • Sören Kierkegaard (1985). Philosophical Fragments. Religion-online.org. ISBN 978-0-691-02036-5. Retrieved February 9, 2014.
  • George H. Smith (1979). Atheism – The Case Against God (PDF). ISBN 0-87975-124-X. Retrieved February 9, 2014.
  • Berman, David (1990). A History of Atheism in Britain: From Hobbes to Russell. London: Routledge. ISBN 0-415-04727-7.
  • Bradlaugh, Charles, Annie Besant and others. (1884) The Atheistic Platform: 12 Lectures. London: Freethought Publishing. [1]
  • Buckley, M. J. (1990). At the Origins of Modern Atheism. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press. ISBN 0-300-04897-1.
  • Bullivant, Stephen; Michael Ruse, eds. (2013). The Oxford Handbook of Atheism. Oxford UP. ISBN 9780199644650.
  • Flew, Antony (2005). God and Philosophy. Prometheus Books. ISBN 1-59102-330-0.
  • Tom Flynn, ed. (2007). The New Encyclopedia of Unbelief. Buffalo, NY: Prometheus Books. ISBN 978-1-59102-391-3.
  • Gaskin, J.C.A., ed. (1989). Varieties of Unbelief: From Epicurus to Sartre. •New York: Macmillan. ISBN 0-02-340681-X.
  • Germani, Alan (15 September 2008). "The Mystical Ethics of the New Atheists". The Objective Standard. Glen Allen Press. 3 (3). from the original on 2011-04-28. Retrieved 2011-04-09.
  • Harbour, Daniel (2003). An Intelligent Person's Guide to Atheism. London: Duckworth. ISBN 0-7156-3229-9.
  • Harris, Sam (2 October 2007). . The Washington Post. Archived from the original on 2011-05-24. Retrieved 2011-04-09.
  • Howson, Colin (2011). Objecting to God. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-0-521-18665-0
  • Jacoby, Susan (2004). Freethinkers: A History of American Secularism. Metropolitan Books. ISBN 978-0-8050-7442-0.
  • Krueger, D. E. (1998). What is Atheism?: A Short Introduction. New York: Prometheus. ISBN 1-57392-214-5.
  • Ledrew, S. (2012). "The evolution of atheism: Scientific and humanistic approaches". History of the Human Sciences. 25 (3): 70. doi:10.1177/0952695112441301. S2CID 145640287.
  • Le Poidevin, R. (1996). Arguing for Atheism: An Introduction to the Philosophy of Religion. London: Routledge. ISBN 0-415-09338-4.
  • Mackie, J. L. (1982). The Miracle of Theism: Arguments For and Against the Existence of God. Oxford: Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-824682-X.
  • Maritain, Jacques (1952). . London: Geoffrey Bles. Archived from the original on 2013-04-07. Retrieved 2013-04-15.
  • Martin, Michael (1990). Atheism: A Philosophical Justification. Philadelphia: Temple University Press. ISBN 0-87722-943-0. Retrieved 2011-04-09. Atheism: A Philosophical Justification.
  • Michael Martin; Ricki Monnier, eds. (2003). The Impossibility of God. Buffalo, NY: Prometheus Books. ISBN 1-59102-120-0.
  • Michael Martin; Ricki Monnier, eds. (2006). The Improbability of God. Buffalo, NY: Prometheus Books. ISBN 1-59102-381-5.
  • McTaggart, John; McTaggart, Ellis (1930) [1906]. Some Dogmas of Religion (New ed.). London: Edward Arnold & Co. ISBN 0-548-14955-0.
  • Nielsen, Kai (1985). Philosophy and Atheism. New York: Prometheus. ISBN 0-87975-289-0.
  • Nielsen, Kai (2001). Naturalism and Religion. New York: Prometheus. ISBN 1-57392-853-4.
  • Onfray, Michel (2007). Atheist Manifesto. New York: Arcade Publishing. ISBN 978-1-55970-820-3. from the original on 2011-05-19. Retrieved 2011-04-09.
  • Oppy, Graham (2006). Arguing about Gods. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0-521-86386-4. from the original on 2011-05-19. Retrieved 2011-04-09.
  • Rafford, R. L. (1987). "Atheophobia—an introduction". Religious Humanism. 21 (1): 32–37.
  • Robinson, Richard (1964). . Oxford: Clarendon Press. ISBN 0-19-824191-7. Archived from the original on 2011-04-25. Retrieved 2011-04-09.
  • Rosenberg, Alex (2011). The Atheist's Guide to Reality: Enjoying Life Without Illusions. New York: W. W. Norton & Co. ISBN 978-0-393-08023-0
  • Russell, Paul (11 February 2013). "Hume on Religion". In Edward N. Zalta (ed.). Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (2013 ed.). Metaphysics Research Lab. Retrieved 2013-11-24.
  • Sharpe, R.A. (1997). The Moral Case Against Religious Belief. London: SCM Press. ISBN 0-334-02680-6.
  • Thrower, James (1971). A Short History of Western Atheism. London: Pemberton. ISBN 0-301-71101-1.
  • Walters, Kerry (2010). Atheism: A Guide for the Perplexed. New York: Continuum. ISBN 978-0-8264-2493-8
  • Zuckerman, Phil (2010). Society without God: What the Least Religious Nations Can Tell Us About Contentment. NYU Press. ISBN 978-0-8147-9723-5.
  • Zuckerman, Phil, ed. (2010). Atheism and secularity. Santa Barbara, Calif. [u.a.]: Praeger. ISBN 978-0-313-35183-9.

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Agnostic atheism or atheistic agnosticism is a philosophical position that encompasses both atheism and agnosticism Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and are agnostic because they claim that the existence of a divine entity or entities is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact The agnostic atheist may be contrasted with the agnostic theist who believes that one or more deities exist but claims that the existence or nonexistence of such is unknown or cannot be known 1 2 3 Contents 1 History 2 Epistemological arguments 3 References 4 Further readingHistory Edit nbsp Nonreligious population by country 2010 4 One of the earliest definitions of agnostic atheism is that of theologian and philosopher Robert Flint in his Croall Lecture of 1887 1888 published in 1903 under the title Agnosticism The atheist may however be and not unfrequently is an agnostic There is an agnostic atheism or atheistic agnosticism and the combination of atheism with agnosticism which may be so named is not an uncommon one 5 If a man has failed to find any good reason for believing that there is a God it is perfectly natural and rational that he should not believe that there is a God and if so he is an atheist if he goes farther and after an investigation into the nature and reach of human knowledge ending in the conclusion that the existence of God is incapable of proof cease to believe in it on the ground that he cannot know it to be true he is an agnostic and also an atheist an agnostic atheist an atheist because an agnostic while then it is erroneous to identify agnosticism and atheism it is equally erroneous so to separate them as if the one were exclusive of the other 5 In 1885 Robert G Ingersoll popularly known as The Great Agnostic explained his comparative view of agnosticism and atheism as follows 6 The Agnostic is an Atheist The Atheist is an Agnostic The Agnostic says I do not know but I do not believe there is any God The Atheist says the same Epistemological arguments EditFurther information Theological noncognitivism Epistemological or agnostic atheism argues that people cannot know a God or determine the existence of a God The foundation of epistemological atheism is agnosticism which takes a variety of forms In the philosophy of immanence divinity is inseparable from the world itself including a person s mind and each person s consciousness is locked in the subject According to this form of agnosticism this limitation in perspective prevents any objective inference from belief in a god to assertions of its existence The rationalistic agnosticism of Kant and the Enlightenment only accepts knowledge deduced with human rationality this form of atheism holds that gods are not discernible as a matter of principle and therefore cannot be known to exist Skepticism based on the ideas of Hume asserts that certainty about anything is impossible so one can never know for sure whether or not a god exists Hume however held that such unobservable metaphysical concepts should be rejected as sophistry and illusion The allocation of agnosticism to atheism is disputed it can also be regarded as an independent basic worldview Other arguments for atheism that can be classified as epistemological or ontological including logical positivism and ignosticism assert the meaninglessness or unintelligibility of basic terms such as God and statements such as God is all powerful Theological noncognitivism holds that the statement God exists does not express a proposition but is nonsensical or cognitively meaningless It has been argued both ways as to whether such individuals can be classified into some form of atheism or agnosticism Philosophers A J Ayer and Theodore M Drange reject both categories stating that both camps accept God exists as a proposition they instead place noncognitivism in its own category 7 8 References Edit Harrison Alexander James 1894 The Ascent of Faith or the Grounds of Certainty in Science and Religion London Hodder and Stroughton p 21 OCLC 7234849 OL 21834002M Let Agnostic Theism stand for that kind of Agnosticism which admits a Divine existence Agnostic Atheism for that kind of Agnosticism which thinks it does not Smith George H 1979 Atheism The Case Against God Prometheus Books pp 10 11 ISBN 9780879751241 Properly considered agnosticism is not a third alternative to theism and atheism because it is concerned with a different aspect of religious belief Theism and atheism refer to the presence or absence of belief in a god agnosticism refers to the impossibility of knowledge with regard to a god or supernatural being The term agnostic does not in itself indicate whether or not one believes in a god Agnosticism can be either theistic or atheistic Barker Dan 2008 Godless How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America s Leading Atheists New York Ulysses Press p 96 ISBN 9781569756775 OL 24313839M People are invariably surprised to hear me say I am both an atheist and an agnostic as if this somehow weakens my certainty I usually reply with a question like Well are you a Republican or an American The two words serve different concepts and are not mutually exclusive Agnosticism addresses knowledge atheism addresses belief The agnostic says I don t have a knowledge that God exists The atheist says I don t have a belief that God exists You can say both things at the same time Some agnostics are atheistic and some are theistic Religious Composition by Country 2010 2050 Pew Research Center s Religion amp Public Life Project 2015 04 02 Retrieved 2020 04 27 a b Flint Robert 1903 Agnosticism The Croall Lecture for 1887 88 William Blackwood and Sons pp 49 51 OL 7193167M Jacoby Susan 2013 The Great Agnostic Yale University Press p 17 ISBN 978 0 300 13725 5 Drange Theodore M 1998 Atheism Agnosticism Noncognitivism Internet Infidels Secular Web Library Retrieved 2007 APR 07 Ayer A J 1946 Language Truth and Logic Dover pp 115 116 In a footnote Ayer attributes this view to Professor H H Price Further reading EditThis further reading section may contain inappropriate or excessive suggestions that may not follow Wikipedia s guidelines Please ensure that only a reasonable number of balanced topical reliable and notable further reading suggestions are given removing less relevant or redundant publications with the same point of view where appropriate Consider utilising appropriate texts as inline sources or creating a separate bibliography article August 2023 Learn how and when to remove this template message Howe Frederic R Challenge and Response Grand Rapids The Zondervan Corporation 1982 ISBN 0 310 45070 5 Martin Michael Theism MSN Encarta 2000 Microsoft Corporation Martin Michael Atheism A Philosophical Justification Philadelphia Temple UP 1992 ISBN 0 87722 943 0 Smith George H Atheism The Case Against God 1st ed Amherst Prometheus Books 1980 ISBN 0 87975 124 X Stein Gordon The Encyclopedia of Unbelief Amherst 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