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William Talbot, 1st Earl Talbot

William Talbot, 1st Earl Talbot, PC (16 May 1710 – 27 April 1782), styled as Lord Talbot from 1737 to 1761, was an English peer and Whig politician. Talbot was a notable figure among opposition Whig politicians during the reign of King George II before later coming to Court during the reign of his grandson, taking the office of Lord Steward of the Household.

The Earl Talbot
Lord Steward of the Household
In office
1761–1782
MonarchGeorge III
Preceded byThe Duke of Rutland
Succeeded byThe Earl of Carlisle
Member of Parliament
for Glamorganshire
In office
1734–1737
Preceded bySir Charles Kemeys
Succeeded byBussy Mansell
Personal details
Born(1710-05-16)16 May 1710
Worcester, Worcestershire, England
Died27 April 1782(1782-04-27) (aged 71)
Lincoln's Inn Fields, Middlesex, England
Resting placeSt Nicholas Church, Sutton, London
Political partyOpposition Whig
Spouse
Mary de Cardonnel
(m. 1734; sep. 1742)
Children2 (legitimate)
EducationExeter College, Oxford

Early life and education edit

Talbot was born in Worcester as the eldest surviving son of Charles Talbot, later Baron Talbot and Cecil Matthew (died 1720), daughter of Charles Matthew of Castell y Mynach, Glamorganshire. The second of five sons born to the future Baron Talbot, Talbot was educated at Eton from 1725 to 1728 and matriculated at Exeter College, Oxford on 23 January 1727, before attending Lincoln's Inn in 1728. He was created DCL (Doctor of Civil Law) on 12 June 1736. In March 1734 Talbot as elected a trustee of the Georgia Society which he would remained associated with until March 1738.

Politics edit

Talbot was elected as a Member of Parliament for Glamorganshire at the 1734 general election where he succeeded outgoing Tory MP Sir Charles Kemeys.[1] The constituency had been hitherto dominated by an alliance of three Tory peers, the Duke of Beaufort, Lord Mansel and Lord Windsor.[2] The Mansels had dominated the seat for around forty-years until 1712 when the seat was won by a succession of two local Tory squires. Talbot stood as a Whig on the interest of his father against Bussy Mansel for the local Tories, who was noted for having a miserly disposition and a considerable fortune.[3] Talbot narrowly won the seat over Mansel, thus being the first Whig to represent the county seat in the duration of the Hanoverian succession. In the House of Commons Talbot aligned with the Opposition Whigs under William Pulteney and was opposed to Robert Walpole and his ministry.[4]

Talbot considered himself to be a 'real Whig' and was fairly independent in his politics, associating with other Independent Whigs such as Sir Francis Dashwood, Earl Stanhope and Lord Strange, the former two being noted as close associates and friends of Talbot.[5][6][7] These 'real Whigs' promoted a political stance of 'independency' which endorsed Country principles of opposing the Septennial Act, nepotism, corruption and a large standing-army, while promoting the militia system, place bills to restrict officeholders in Parliament and general measures to limit the hold of governments over the House of Commons.[8] On these matters these Independents were broad in agreement with the Tories in opposition who they sought to differentiate themselves from through writings and semantics. Talbot expressed his political creed in a 1734 letter to Sir John Dutton where Talbot expressed:

I wish the nominal distinction of Whig and Tory abolished, as the words only, not the sense remain; a Ministerial Whig and a State Tory, when in power, are so exactly alike in their conduct, that my discernment is not sufficient to distinguish one from the other. The principles of a real Whig, in my sense of the term, are these, That government is an original compact between the governors and governed, instituted for the good of the whole community; that in a limited monarchy, or more properly regal commonwealth, the majesty is in the people, and tho'the person on the throne in superior to any individual, he is the servant of the nation;- that the only title to the crown is the election of the people; that the laws are equally obligatory to the Prince and people; that as the constitution of England is formed of three legislation branches, the balance between each must be preserved, to prevent the destruction of the whole; that elections ought to be free, the elected independent;- that a Parliamentary influence by places and pensions is inconsistent with the interest of the public; and that a Minister who endeavours to govern by corruption, is guilty of the vilest attempt to subvert the constitution;- that a standing mercenary army, in time of peace, is contrary to the laws, dangerous to the liberties, and oppressive to the subjects of Great Britain.[9]

In the Commons Talbot was an opponent of the Court Whig administration, supporting the efforts of Tory Sir William Wyndham against the Walpole government to appoint a committee to examine the ordinance of the navy.[10] In February 1737 Talbot vacated his seat in the House of Commons upon the death of his father, becoming Baron Talbot. Talbot for a year from March 1737 served as a common councillor within the Georgia Society, which he resigned from in 1738 after refusing to sign two applications to the Government from the society due to his strong opposition to Walpole.[11] Despite having been deprived of his seat in the Commons, Talbot remained a notable figure within opposition circles as one of the opposition Independent Whigs. In 1747 along with Dashwood, Talbot met with Frederick, Prince of Wales who authorised the two Independent politicians to engage in careful negotiations to form a unified parliamentary opposition of Leicester House, grumbletonian Whigs and the Tories.[12] After months of negotiations an opposition programme was agreed with Dashwood and Talbot remaining among Frederick's steadiest adherents and supporters until his death in 1751.[13] Talbot was among those who coalesced with Frederick's agent Bubb Dodington and was promised a place in a future administration as master of the jewel office.[14] Talbot remained an opponent of subsequent Whig administrations including that of the Duke of Newcastle which he objected to on constitutional principles and not out of want for office.[15]

At the accession of George III in 1760, Talbot acted as Lord High Steward of the new monarch's coronation and was summarily appointed to the Privy Council in 1761. On 19 March 1761 Talbot was created Earl Talbot and was made by Lord Bute Lord Steward of the Household, a position he would hold until his death.[16] That January he had taken command of the newly embodied Glamorgan Militia.[17] Talbot, much like his friend Dashwood, accepted office not out of a personal friendship or political alliance with Bute, but because they were of the opinion that the new monarch was different from his predecessor and that the new reign would reflect this shift.[18] Thereafter Talbot's politics seem to have aligned with those of the Court with him maintaining his household position for the remainder of his life while largely remaining uninvolved with the political questions of the day. One exception to this was with the public hostility to Dashwood cider excise in 1763 when Lord Egremont begged Talbot to attend a Glamorgan county meeting 'to blast the intended opposition' to local opposition figures who pledged to repeal the excise.[19] In autumn 1763 Talbot was among the political figures consulted by George Grenville on how best to court and appease the mainly ex-Tory Independent Country Gentlemen in the Commons, who occasionally held the parliamentary balance of power.[20]

Family edit

 
Portrait of Charles (1777–1849) and John Chetwynd-Talbot (1779–1825), Thomas Lawrence, painted in 1793

Talbot had married Mary, daughter and heir of Adam de Cardonnel, secretary to the Duke of Marlborough, on 21 February 1733, at St George, Hanover Square. With his wife Talbot had two children, a daughter, Cecil, and a son, who predeceased him. He had an affair with Frances Somerset, Duchess of Beaufort (born 14 August 1711 – died 16 February 1750), wife of Henry Scudamore-Somerset, 3rd Duke of Beaufort which led to the Beauforts' divorce in 1743. Talbot and his wife had separated as a result of this in 1742. On Talbot's character, Horace Walpole, as quoted by Eveline Cruickshanks, wrote of him:

This Lord had long affected a very free-spoken kind of patriotism on all occasions. He had some wit, and a little tincture of a disordered understanding; but was better known as a boxer and man of pleasure, than in the light of a statesman. The Duchess of——had been publicly divorced from her lord on his account; and was not the only woman of fashion who had lived with him openly as his mistress. He was strong, well made, and very comely; but with no air, nor with the manners of a man of quality. No wonder the promotion of such a minister, in a reign that advertised piety, strengthened the suspicions already entertained of the sincerity of the Court. It grew more comic still, when the new statesman appeared to be a reformer too.[21][22]

Talbot had no surviving sons by the end of his life which necessitated him being created Baron Dynevor of Dynevor in the county of Carmarthen on 17 October 1780, with a special remainder in favour of daughter Cecil, and the heirs male of her body. Mary Anne Talbot claimed to be one of sixteen illegitimate children of Lord Talbot.[23]

Talbot died 27 April 1782 at Lincoln's Inn Fields and was buried at St Nicholas Church in Sutton. At his death, the earldom became extinct, whilst the barony of Talbot passed to his nephew (and is now part of the earldom of Shrewsbury), and the barony of Dynevor to his daughter and thereafter to her eldest son. She had married George Rice and had two sons, the eldest of which was George Rice, 3rd Baron Dynevor.

References edit

  1. ^ "Glamorgan". History of Parliament Online. Retrieved 20 May 2020.
  2. ^ Glamorgan, History of Parliament Online
  3. ^ "MANSEL, Hon. Bussy (?1701-50), of Briton Ferry, Glam". History of Parliament Online. Retrieved 20 May 2020.
  4. ^ "TALBOT, Hon. William (1710–82), of Hensol, Glam". History of Parliament Online. Retrieved 20 May 2020.
  5. ^ Linda Colley, In Defiance of Oligarchy: The Tory Party 1714–60, p.88, Cambridge University Press, 1982
  6. ^ Archibald S. Foord, His Majesty's Opposition, 1714–1830, p.264, Greenwood Press, 1964
  7. ^ Betty Kemp, Sir Francis Dashwood: An Eighteenth-Century Independent, p.17, Macmillan, 1967
  8. ^ Kemp, Dashwood, p.17, Macmillan, 1967
  9. ^ James Dallaway, Letters of the Late Thomas Rundle, L.L.D., Lord Bishop of Derry in Ireland, to Mrs. Barbara Sandys, of Miserden, Glocestershire: With Introductory Memoirs by James Dallaway, pp.241-3, Byrne & Moore, (1789)
  10. ^ TALBOT, History of Parliament Online
  11. ^ TALBOT, History of Parliament Online
  12. ^ Foord, Opposition, pp.262-4, Greenwood Press, 1964
  13. ^ Foord, Opposition, pp.265, Greenwood Press, 1964
  14. ^ TALBOT, History of Parliament Online
  15. ^ Kemp, Dashwood, p.45, Macmillan, 1967
  16. ^ TALBOT, History of Parliament Online
  17. ^ Bryn Owen, History of the Welsh Militia and Volunteer Corps 1757–1908, Vol 2: The Glamorgan Regiments of Militia, Caernarfon: Palace Books, 1990, ISBN 1-871904-01-3, p 28.
  18. ^ Kemp, Dashwood, p.51, Macmillan, 1967
  19. ^ Kemp, Dashwood, p.65, Macmillan, 1967
  20. ^ Kemp, Dashwood, p.64, Macmillan, 1967
  21. ^ Horace Walpole, Memoirs of the Reign of King George the Third, Vol. I., p.47, Richard Bentley, 1845
  22. ^ TALBOT, History of Parliament Online
  23. ^ Talbot, M. A. (May 2006) [1809]. Royster, P. (ed.). "The Life and Surprising Adventures of Mary Ann Talbot, in the Name of John Taylor". Faculty Publications, Unl Libraries. University of Nebraska - Lincoln.

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William Talbot 1st Earl Talbot PC 16 May 1710 27 April 1782 styled as Lord Talbot from 1737 to 1761 was an English peer and Whig politician Talbot was a notable figure among opposition Whig politicians during the reign of King George II before later coming to Court during the reign of his grandson taking the office of Lord Steward of the Household The Most HonourableThe Earl TalbotPCLord Steward of the HouseholdIn office 1761 1782MonarchGeorge IIIPreceded byThe Duke of RutlandSucceeded byThe Earl of CarlisleMember of Parliamentfor GlamorganshireIn office 1734 1737Preceded bySir Charles KemeysSucceeded byBussy MansellPersonal detailsBorn 1710 05 16 16 May 1710Worcester Worcestershire EnglandDied27 April 1782 1782 04 27 aged 71 Lincoln s Inn Fields Middlesex EnglandResting placeSt Nicholas Church Sutton LondonPolitical partyOpposition WhigSpouseMary de Cardonnel m 1734 sep 1742 wbr Children2 legitimate EducationExeter College Oxford Contents 1 Early life and education 2 Politics 3 Family 4 References 5 External linksEarly life and education editTalbot was born in Worcester as the eldest surviving son of Charles Talbot later Baron Talbot and Cecil Matthew died 1720 daughter of Charles Matthew of Castell y Mynach Glamorganshire The second of five sons born to the future Baron Talbot Talbot was educated at Eton from 1725 to 1728 and matriculated at Exeter College Oxford on 23 January 1727 before attending Lincoln s Inn in 1728 He was created DCL Doctor of Civil Law on 12 June 1736 In March 1734 Talbot as elected a trustee of the Georgia Society which he would remained associated with until March 1738 Politics editTalbot was elected as a Member of Parliament for Glamorganshire at the 1734 general election where he succeeded outgoing Tory MP Sir Charles Kemeys 1 The constituency had been hitherto dominated by an alliance of three Tory peers the Duke of Beaufort Lord Mansel and Lord Windsor 2 The Mansels had dominated the seat for around forty years until 1712 when the seat was won by a succession of two local Tory squires Talbot stood as a Whig on the interest of his father against Bussy Mansel for the local Tories who was noted for having a miserly disposition and a considerable fortune 3 Talbot narrowly won the seat over Mansel thus being the first Whig to represent the county seat in the duration of the Hanoverian succession In the House of Commons Talbot aligned with the Opposition Whigs under William Pulteney and was opposed to Robert Walpole and his ministry 4 Talbot considered himself to be a real Whig and was fairly independent in his politics associating with other Independent Whigs such as Sir Francis Dashwood Earl Stanhope and Lord Strange the former two being noted as close associates and friends of Talbot 5 6 7 These real Whigs promoted a political stance of independency which endorsed Country principles of opposing the Septennial Act nepotism corruption and a large standing army while promoting the militia system place bills to restrict officeholders in Parliament and general measures to limit the hold of governments over the House of Commons 8 On these matters these Independents were broad in agreement with the Tories in opposition who they sought to differentiate themselves from through writings and semantics Talbot expressed his political creed in a 1734 letter to Sir John Dutton where Talbot expressed I wish the nominal distinction of Whig and Tory abolished as the words only not the sense remain a Ministerial Whig and a State Tory when in power are so exactly alike in their conduct that my discernment is not sufficient to distinguish one from the other The principles of a real Whig in my sense of the term are these That government is an original compact between the governors and governed instituted for the good of the whole community that in a limited monarchy or more properly regal commonwealth the majesty is in the people and tho the person on the throne in superior to any individual he is the servant of the nation that the only title to the crown is the election of the people that the laws are equally obligatory to the Prince and people that as the constitution of England is formed of three legislation branches the balance between each must be preserved to prevent the destruction of the whole that elections ought to be free the elected independent that a Parliamentary influence by places and pensions is inconsistent with the interest of the public and that a Minister who endeavours to govern by corruption is guilty of the vilest attempt to subvert the constitution that a standing mercenary army in time of peace is contrary to the laws dangerous to the liberties and oppressive to the subjects of Great Britain 9 In the Commons Talbot was an opponent of the Court Whig administration supporting the efforts of Tory Sir William Wyndham against the Walpole government to appoint a committee to examine the ordinance of the navy 10 In February 1737 Talbot vacated his seat in the House of Commons upon the death of his father becoming Baron Talbot Talbot for a year from March 1737 served as a common councillor within the Georgia Society which he resigned from in 1738 after refusing to sign two applications to the Government from the society due to his strong opposition to Walpole 11 Despite having been deprived of his seat in the Commons Talbot remained a notable figure within opposition circles as one of the opposition Independent Whigs In 1747 along with Dashwood Talbot met with Frederick Prince of Wales who authorised the two Independent politicians to engage in careful negotiations to form a unified parliamentary opposition of Leicester House grumbletonian Whigs and the Tories 12 After months of negotiations an opposition programme was agreed with Dashwood and Talbot remaining among Frederick s steadiest adherents and supporters until his death in 1751 13 Talbot was among those who coalesced with Frederick s agent Bubb Dodington and was promised a place in a future administration as master of the jewel office 14 Talbot remained an opponent of subsequent Whig administrations including that of the Duke of Newcastle which he objected to on constitutional principles and not out of want for office 15 At the accession of George III in 1760 Talbot acted as Lord High Steward of the new monarch s coronation and was summarily appointed to the Privy Council in 1761 On 19 March 1761 Talbot was created Earl Talbot and was made by Lord Bute Lord Steward of the Household a position he would hold until his death 16 That January he had taken command of the newly embodied Glamorgan Militia 17 Talbot much like his friend Dashwood accepted office not out of a personal friendship or political alliance with Bute but because they were of the opinion that the new monarch was different from his predecessor and that the new reign would reflect this shift 18 Thereafter Talbot s politics seem to have aligned with those of the Court with him maintaining his household position for the remainder of his life while largely remaining uninvolved with the political questions of the day One exception to this was with the public hostility to Dashwood cider excise in 1763 when Lord Egremont begged Talbot to attend a Glamorgan county meeting to blast the intended opposition to local opposition figures who pledged to repeal the excise 19 In autumn 1763 Talbot was among the political figures consulted by George Grenville on how best to court and appease the mainly ex Tory Independent Country Gentlemen in the Commons who occasionally held the parliamentary balance of power 20 Family edit nbsp Portrait of Charles 1777 1849 and John Chetwynd Talbot 1779 1825 Thomas Lawrence painted in 1793 Talbot had married Mary daughter and heir of Adam de Cardonnel secretary to the Duke of Marlborough on 21 February 1733 at St George Hanover Square With his wife Talbot had two children a daughter Cecil and a son who predeceased him He had an affair with Frances Somerset Duchess of Beaufort born 14 August 1711 died 16 February 1750 wife of Henry Scudamore Somerset 3rd Duke of Beaufort which led to the Beauforts divorce in 1743 Talbot and his wife had separated as a result of this in 1742 On Talbot s character Horace Walpole as quoted by Eveline Cruickshanks wrote of him This Lord had long affected a very free spoken kind of patriotism on all occasions He had some wit and a little tincture of a disordered understanding but was better known as a boxer and man of pleasure than in the light of a statesman The Duchess of had been publicly divorced from her lord on his account and was not the only woman of fashion who had lived with him openly as his mistress He was strong well made and very comely but with no air nor with the manners of a man of quality No wonder the promotion of such a minister in a reign that advertised piety strengthened the suspicions already entertained of the sincerity of the Court It grew more comic still when the new statesman appeared to be a reformer too 21 22 Talbot had no surviving sons by the end of his life which necessitated him being created Baron Dynevor of Dynevor in the county of Carmarthen on 17 October 1780 with a special remainder in favour of daughter Cecil and the heirs male of her body Mary Anne Talbot claimed to be one of sixteen illegitimate children of Lord Talbot 23 Talbot died 27 April 1782 at Lincoln s Inn Fields and was buried at St Nicholas Church in Sutton At his death the earldom became extinct whilst the barony of Talbot passed to his nephew and is now part of the earldom of Shrewsbury and the barony of Dynevor to his daughter and thereafter to her eldest son She had married George Rice and had two sons the eldest of which was George Rice 3rd Baron Dynevor References editLeigh Rayment s Peerage Pages self published source better source needed Glamorgan History of Parliament Online Retrieved 20 May 2020 Glamorgan History of Parliament Online MANSEL Hon Bussy 1701 50 of Briton Ferry Glam History of Parliament Online Retrieved 20 May 2020 TALBOT Hon William 1710 82 of Hensol Glam History of Parliament Online Retrieved 20 May 2020 Linda Colley In Defiance of Oligarchy The Tory Party 1714 60 p 88 Cambridge University Press 1982 Archibald S Foord His Majesty s Opposition 1714 1830 p 264 Greenwood Press 1964 Betty Kemp Sir Francis Dashwood An Eighteenth Century Independent p 17 Macmillan 1967 Kemp Dashwood p 17 Macmillan 1967 James Dallaway Letters of the Late Thomas Rundle L L D Lord Bishop of Derry in Ireland to Mrs Barbara Sandys of Miserden Glocestershire With Introductory Memoirs by James Dallaway pp 241 3 Byrne amp Moore 1789 TALBOT History of Parliament Online TALBOT History of Parliament Online Foord Opposition pp 262 4 Greenwood Press 1964 Foord Opposition pp 265 Greenwood Press 1964 TALBOT History of Parliament Online Kemp Dashwood p 45 Macmillan 1967 TALBOT History of Parliament Online Bryn Owen History of the Welsh Militia and Volunteer Corps 1757 1908 Vol 2 The Glamorgan Regiments of Militia Caernarfon Palace Books 1990 ISBN 1 871904 01 3 p 28 Kemp Dashwood p 51 Macmillan 1967 Kemp Dashwood p 65 Macmillan 1967 Kemp Dashwood p 64 Macmillan 1967 Horace Walpole Memoirs of the Reign of King George the Third Vol I p 47 Richard Bentley 1845 TALBOT History of Parliament Online Talbot M A May 2006 1809 Royster P ed The Life and Surprising Adventures of Mary Ann Talbot in the Name of John Taylor Faculty Publications Unl Libraries University of Nebraska Lincoln External links editEntry at thepeerage com Parliament of Great Britain Preceded bySir Charles Kemeys Member of Parliament for Glamorganshire1734 1737 Succeeded byBussy Mansell Political offices Preceded byThe Duke of Rutland Lord Steward of the Household1761 1782 Succeeded byThe Earl of Carlisle Peerage of Great Britain New creation Earl Talbot1761 1782 Extinct Preceded byCharles Talbot Baron Talbot1737 1782 Succeeded byJohn Chetwynd Talbot New creation Baron Dynevor1780 1782 Succeeded byCecil 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