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TBV Lemgo

TBV Lemgo is a handball club from Lemgo, Germany, and is competing in the Handball-Bundesliga.

TBV Lemgo
Full nameTurn- und Ballsportverein Lemgo Lippe
Short nameTBV
Founded1924; 100 years ago (1924)
ArenaLipperlandhalle
Capacity5,000
PresidentBurkhard Pohl
Head coachFlorian Kehrmann
LeagueHandball-Bundesliga
2022–238th of 18
Club colours   
Home
Away
Website
Official site
Lemgo
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Location of TBV Lemgo

History edit

The ascent to one of the best German handball clubs was slow but steady. In the year the Bundesliga was founded, the club was still in the Oberliga, promotion to the 2. Handball-Bundesliga in 1981/82, and since the 1983/84 season, TBV Lemgo has been playing in the top class, growing steadily for more than a decade. developed into a top team. Names such as Lajos Mocsai (coach since 1989), László Marosi (1990–1999 players) or Daniel Stephan (1994–2008 players) are associated with this. They won their first major title in 1995, winning the DHB-Pokal, followed in 1996 by the EHF Cup Winners' Cup. Lajos Mocsai finished his coaching job at TBV with this title. 1997 was the most successful year in the history of the club, led by his successor, Yuri Shevtsov. For the first time in a season, he was able to celebrate a championship title, a cup win and a Super Cup win. The team won the Handball-Bundesliga twice (1997, 2003), the DHB-Pokal 4 times (1995, 1997, 2002, 2020), the DHB-Supercup 4 times (1997, 1999, 2002, 2003), 1 time for the EHF Cup Winner's Cup (1996) and 2 times for the EHF Cup (2006, 2010).

Crest, colours, supporters edit

Naming history edit

Name Period
Ballsportverein Lemgo 1911 1911–1945
Turn- und Ballspielverein Lemgo 1945–2018
Turn- und Ballspielverein Lemgo Lippe 2018–present

Kit manufacturers edit

Period Kit manufacturer
0000–2019   Salming
2019–present   Joma

Kits edit

Accomplishments edit

Winners: 1996–97

Team edit

Current squad edit

Squad for the 2023–24 season[1]
TBV Lemgo

Technical staff edit

  • Head coach:   Florian Kehrmann
  • Assistant coach:   Matthias Struck
  • Athletic Trainer:   Meinolf Krome
  • Club doctor:   Dr. Roland Kessler

Transfers edit

Transfers for the 2024–25 season

Previous squads edit

Retired numbers edit

TBV Lemgo retired numbers
Nationality Player Position Tenure
6   László Marosi Left Back, Left Winger 1990–1999

EHF ranking edit

As of 8 April 2022[2]
Rank Team Points
49   IK Sävehof 127
50   Dynamo Viktor 126
51   Skjern Håndbold 125
52   TBV Lemgo 125
53   SKA Minsk 125
54   AHC Potaissa Turda 124
55   CSM București 120

Former club members edit

Notable former players edit

Former coaches edit

Seasons Coach Country
1989–1996 Lajos Mocsai  
1996–2001 Yuri Shevtsov  
2001–2002 Zbigniew Tluczynski  
2002–2007 Volker Mudrow  
2007 Peter Meisinger  
2007 Volker Zerbe  
2008–2009 Markus Baur  
2009–2011 Volker Mudrow  
2011–2013 Dirk Beuchler  
2013–2014 Niels Pfannenschmidt  
2014– Florian Kehrmann  

References edit

  1. ^ "Mannschaft TBV-Lemgo Lippe".
  2. ^ "Eurotopteam, classement européen des clubs de Handball".

External links edit

  • Official website  

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TBV Lemgo is a handball club from Lemgo Germany and is competing in the Handball Bundesliga TBV LemgoFull nameTurn und Ballsportverein Lemgo LippeShort nameTBVFounded1924 100 years ago 1924 ArenaLipperlandhalleCapacity5 000PresidentBurkhard PohlHead coachFlorian KehrmannLeagueHandball Bundesliga2022 238th of 18Club colours HomeAwayWebsite Official site Lemgoclass notpageimage Location of TBV Lemgo Contents 1 History 2 Crest colours supporters 2 1 Naming history 2 2 Kit manufacturers 2 3 Kits 3 Accomplishments 4 Team 4 1 Current squad 4 2 Technical staff 4 3 Transfers 5 Previous squads 6 Retired numbers 7 EHF ranking 8 Former club members 8 1 Notable former players 8 2 Former coaches 9 References 10 External linksHistory editThe ascent to one of the best German handball clubs was slow but steady In the year the Bundesliga was founded the club was still in the Oberliga promotion to the 2 Handball Bundesliga in 1981 82 and since the 1983 84 season TBV Lemgo has been playing in the top class growing steadily for more than a decade developed into a top team Names such as Lajos Mocsai coach since 1989 Laszlo Marosi 1990 1999 players or Daniel Stephan 1994 2008 players are associated with this They won their first major title in 1995 winning the DHB Pokal followed in 1996 by the EHF Cup Winners Cup Lajos Mocsai finished his coaching job at TBV with this title 1997 was the most successful year in the history of the club led by his successor Yuri Shevtsov For the first time in a season he was able to celebrate a championship title a cup win and a Super Cup win The team won the Handball Bundesliga twice 1997 2003 the DHB Pokal 4 times 1995 1997 2002 2020 the DHB Supercup 4 times 1997 1999 2002 2003 1 time for the EHF Cup Winner s Cup 1996 and 2 times for the EHF Cup 2006 2010 Crest colours supporters editNaming history edit Name Period Ballsportverein Lemgo 1911 1911 1945 Turn und Ballspielverein Lemgo 1945 2018 Turn und Ballspielverein Lemgo Lippe 2018 present Kit manufacturers edit Period Kit manufacturer 0000 2019 nbsp Salming 2019 present nbsp Joma Kits edit HOME nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp 2016 17 nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp 2017 18 AWAY nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp 2016 17 nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp 2017 18Accomplishments editHandball Bundesliga nbsp Gold 1997 2003 DHB Pokal nbsp Gold 1995 1997 2002 2020 DHB Supercup nbsp Gold 1997 1999 2002 2003 EHF Cup Winner s Cup nbsp Gold 1996 EHF Cup nbsp Gold 2006 2010 Double Winners 1996 97Team editCurrent squad edit Squad for the 2023 24 season 1 TBV Lemgo Goalkeepers 16 nbsp Leon Goldbecker 20 nbsp Finn Zecher 99 nbsp Urh Kastelic Left wingers 0 4 nbsp Samuel Zehnder 21 nbsp Leve Carstensen Right wingers 14 nbsp Bobby Schagen 24 nbsp Lukas Zerbe Line players 0 5 nbsp Yan Brosch 13 nbsp Oleksii Tomashevskyi 40 nbsp Thore Oetjen 48 nbsp Leos Petrovsky Left backs 0 2 nbsp Lukas Hutecek 0 7 nbsp Ben Connar Battermann 0 8 nbsp Frederik Simak 10 nbsp Emil Laerke Centre Backs 23 nbsp Tim Suton 33 nbsp Thomas Houtepen Right backs 0 3 nbsp Nicolai Theilinger 25 nbsp Niels Versteijnen Technical staff edit Head coach nbsp Florian Kehrmann Assistant coach nbsp Matthias Struck Athletic Trainer nbsp Meinolf Krome Club doctor nbsp Dr Roland Kessler Transfers edit Transfers for the 2024 25 season Joining nbsp nbsp Constantin Mostl GK from nbsp Alpla HC Hard nbsp Hendrik Wagner LB from nbsp HSG Wetzlar nbsp Jarnus Faust RW from nbsp THW Kiel nbsp Leaving nbsp Finn Zecher GK to nbsp TuS N Lubbecke nbsp Emil Laerke LB to nbsp Skanderborg Aarhus Handbold nbsp Lukas Zerbe RW to nbsp THW Kiel Previous squads edit2019 2020 Team Shirt No Nationality Player Birth Date Position 1 nbsp Poland Piotr Wyszomirski 1988 01 06 6 January 1988 age 36 Goalkeeper 4 nbsp Iceland Bjarki Mar Elisson 1990 05 16 16 May 1990 age 33 Left Winger 5 nbsp Germany Andrej Kogut 1988 04 09 9 April 1988 age 36 Central Back 7 nbsp Spain Isaias Guardiola 1984 10 01 1 October 1984 age 39 Right Back 9 nbsp Sweden Jonathan Carlsbogard 1995 04 19 19 April 1995 age 29 Left Back 10 nbsp Netherlands Fabian van Olphen 1981 03 30 30 March 1981 age 43 Left Back 13 nbsp Germany Christoph Theuerkauf 1984 10 13 13 October 1984 age 39 Line Player 14 nbsp Netherlands Bobby Schagen 1990 01 13 13 January 1990 age 34 Right Winger 18 nbsp Germany Fynn Hangstein 2000 03 23 23 March 2000 age 24 Central Back 23 nbsp Germany Tim Suton 1996 05 08 8 May 1996 age 28 Central Back 24 nbsp Germany Lukas Zerbe 1996 01 17 17 January 1996 age 28 Right Winger 25 nbsp Sweden Peter Johannesson 1992 05 12 12 May 1992 age 31 Goalkeeper 27 nbsp Germany Jari Lemke 1997 02 10 10 February 1997 age 27 Left Back 30 nbsp Germany Finn Zecher 2000 09 01 1 September 2000 age 23 Goalkeeper 34 nbsp Sweden Andreas Cederholm 1990 05 04 4 May 1990 age 34 Right Back 37 nbsp Hungary Donat Bartok 1996 07 13 13 July 1996 age 27 Right Back 40 nbsp Germany Maxim Schalles 1999 10 25 25 October 1999 age 24 Right Winger 41 nbsp Germany Thore Oetjen 2001 01 03 3 January 2001 age 23 Line Player 42 nbsp Germany Linus Geis 1998 02 03 3 February 1998 age 26 Left Back 44 nbsp Germany Alexander Reimann 2000 10 27 27 October 2000 age 23 Left Winger 69 nbsp Germany Christian Klimek 1990 01 08 8 January 1990 age 34 Line Player 77 nbsp Netherlands Dani Baijens 1998 05 05 5 May 1998 age 26 Central Back 80 nbsp Latvia Evars Klesniks 1980 05 18 18 May 1980 age 43 Right Back 2009 2010 Team Shirt No Nationality Player Birth Date Position 1 nbsp Germany Carsten Lichtlein 1980 11 04 4 November 1980 age 43 Goalkeeper 2 nbsp Germany Michael Kraus 1983 09 28 28 September 1983 age 40 Central Back 3 nbsp Hungary Ferenc Ilyes 1981 12 20 20 December 1981 age 42 Left Back 7 nbsp Germany Sebastian Preiss 1981 02 08 8 February 1981 age 43 Line Player 8 nbsp Germany Jens Bechtloff 1986 04 17 17 April 1986 age 38 Left Winger 11 nbsp Germany Holger Glandorf 1983 03 30 30 March 1983 age 41 Right Back 12 nbsp Sweden Jesper Larsson 1973 07 27 27 July 1973 age 50 Goalkeeper 14 nbsp Netherlands Mark Schmetz 1977 01 03 3 January 1977 age 47 Right Winger 15 nbsp Germany Florian Kehrmann 1977 06 26 26 June 1977 age 46 Right Winger 16 nbsp Czech Republic Martin Galia 1979 04 12 12 April 1979 age 45 Goalkeeper 18 nbsp Hungary Tamas Mocsai 1978 12 09 9 December 1978 age 45 Right Back 19 nbsp Germany Martin Strobel 1986 06 05 5 June 1986 age 37 Central Back 20 nbsp Germany Rolf Hermann 1981 12 01 1 December 1981 age 42 Right Back 22 nbsp Iceland Vignir Svavarsson 1980 06 20 20 June 1980 age 43 Line Player 23 nbsp Iceland Logi Geirsson 1982 10 10 10 October 1982 age 41 Left Winger 77 nbsp Czech Republic Daniel Kubes 1978 02 07 7 February 1978 age 46 Left Back 2005 2006 Team Shirt No Nationality Player Birth Date Position 1 nbsp Germany Carsten Lichtlein 1980 11 04 4 November 1980 age 43 Goalkeeper 3 nbsp Germany Sven Soren Christophersen 1985 05 09 9 May 1985 age 38 Left Back 4 nbsp Germany Daniel Stephan 1973 08 03 3 August 1973 age 50 Central Back 5 nbsp Germany Andre Tempelmeier 1967 05 25 25 May 1967 age 56 Right Winger 7 nbsp Germany Sebastian Preiss 1981 02 08 8 February 1981 age 43 Line Player 8 nbsp Germany Christian Schwarzer 1969 10 23 23 October 1969 age 54 Line Player 9 nbsp Iceland Asgeir Orn Hallgrimsson 1984 02 17 17 February 1984 age 40 Right Back 10 nbsp Germany Maximilian Ramota 1977 07 29 29 July 1977 age 46 Left Back 11 nbsp Germany Volker Zerbe 1968 06 30 30 June 1968 age 55 Right Back 12 nbsp Germany Jorg Zereike 1978 03 12 12 March 1978 age 46 Goalkeeper 15 nbsp Germany Florian Kehrmann 1977 06 26 26 June 1977 age 46 Right Winger 16 nbsp Germany Rene Selke 1984 07 24 24 July 1984 age 39 Goalkeeper 17 nbsp Germany Michael Binder 1981 08 04 4 August 1981 age 42 Left Winger 22 nbsp Germany Markus Baur 1971 01 22 22 January 1971 age 53 Central Back 23 nbsp Iceland Logi Geirsson 1982 10 10 10 October 1982 age 41 Left Winger 31 nbsp Germany Andre Kropp 1984 09 08 8 September 1984 age 39 Line Player 39 nbsp Czech Republic Filip Jicha 1982 04 19 19 April 1982 age 42 Left Back 2002 2003 Team Shirt No Nationality Player Birth Date Position 1 nbsp Germany Christian Ramota 1973 04 14 14 April 1973 age 51 Goalkeeper 2 nbsp Germany Matthias Struck 1982 05 15 15 May 1982 age 41 Right Back 3 nbsp Germany Achim Schurmann 1974 01 29 29 January 1974 age 50 Line Player 4 nbsp Germany Daniel Stephan 1973 08 03 3 August 1973 age 50 Central Back 5 nbsp Germany Andre Tempelmeier 1967 05 25 25 May 1967 age 56 Right Winger 7 nbsp Germany Ulf Ganschow 1975 04 17 17 April 1975 age 49 Left Winger 8 nbsp Germany Christian Schwarzer 1969 10 23 23 October 1969 age 54 Line Player 10 nbsp Germany Maximilian Ramota 1977 07 29 29 July 1977 age 46 Left Back 11 nbsp Germany Volker Zerbe 1968 06 30 30 June 1968 age 55 Right Back 12 nbsp Germany Jorg Zereike 1978 03 12 12 March 1978 age 46 Goalkeeper 13 nbsp Switzerland Marc Baumgartner 1971 03 04 4 March 1971 age 53 Left Back 14 nbsp Germany Rico Bonath 1983 12 05 5 December 1983 age 40 Right Back 15 nbsp Germany Florian Kehrmann 1977 06 26 26 June 1977 age 46 Right Winger 17 nbsp Germany Michael Binder 1981 08 04 4 August 1981 age 42 Left Winger 21 nbsp Switzerland Carlos Lima 1970 02 21 21 February 1970 age 54 Left Winger 22 nbsp Germany Markus Baur 1971 01 22 22 January 1971 age 53 Central Back 25 nbsp Germany Robin Kothe 1976 04 10 10 April 1976 age 48 Line Player 2001 2002 Team Shirt No Nationality Player Birth Date Position 1 nbsp Germany Christian Ramota 1973 04 14 14 April 1973 age 51 Goalkeeper 2 nbsp Germany Matthias Struck 1982 05 15 15 May 1982 age 41 Right Back 3 nbsp Germany Achim Schurmann 1974 01 29 29 January 1974 age 50 Line Player 4 nbsp Germany Daniel Stephan 1973 08 03 3 August 1973 age 50 Central Back 5 nbsp Germany Andre Tempelmeier 1967 05 25 25 May 1967 age 56 Right Winger 7 nbsp Germany Ulf Ganschow 1975 04 17 17 April 1975 age 49 Left Winger 8 nbsp Germany Christian Schwarzer 1969 10 23 23 October 1969 age 54 Line Player 9 nbsp Germany Alexander Koke 1979 04 02 2 April 1979 age 45 Central Back 10 nbsp Germany Jorg Schulte 1980 01 06 6 January 1980 age 44 Left Back 11 nbsp Germany Volker Zerbe 1968 06 30 30 June 1968 age 55 Right Back 12 nbsp Germany Marco Stange 1975 07 07 7 July 1975 age 48 Goalkeeper 13 nbsp Switzerland Marc Baumgartner 1971 03 04 4 March 1971 age 53 Left Back 14 nbsp Germany Jochen Fraatz 1963 05 14 14 May 1963 age 60 Left Winger 15 nbsp Germany Florian Kehrmann 1977 06 26 26 June 1977 age 46 Right Winger 16 nbsp Germany Julius Kaiser 1981 05 22 22 May 1981 age 42 Goalkeeper 22 nbsp Germany Markus Baur 1971 01 22 22 January 1971 age 53 Central Back 23 nbsp Germany Lars Henrik Walther 1968 04 21 21 April 1968 age 56 Line Player 1998 1999 Team Shirt No Nationality Player Birth Date Position 1 nbsp Germany Lutz Grosser 1961 03 14 14 March 1961 age 63 Goalkeeper 3 nbsp Germany Achim Schurmann 1974 01 29 29 January 1974 age 50 Line Player 4 nbsp Germany Daniel Stephan 1973 08 03 3 August 1973 age 50 Central Back 5 nbsp Germany Andre Tempelmeier 1967 05 25 25 May 1967 age 56 Right Winger 6 nbsp Hungary Laszlo Marosi 1962 11 26 26 November 1962 age 61 Left Back 7 nbsp Germany Ulf Ganschow 1975 04 17 17 April 1975 age 49 Left Winger 8 nbsp Belarus Andrej Siniak 1972 04 28 28 April 1972 age 52 Right Winger 9 nbsp Sweden Andreas Larsson 1974 08 13 13 August 1974 age 49 Right Back 10 nbsp Germany Jens Lause 1968 10 30 30 October 1968 age 55 Left Winger 11 nbsp Germany Volker Zerbe 1968 06 30 30 June 1968 age 55 Right Back 13 nbsp Germany Lars Henrik Walther 1968 04 21 21 April 1968 age 56 Left Back 14 nbsp Belarus nbsp Germany Gennadij Chalepo 1969 01 02 2 January 1969 age 55 Central Back 22 nbsp Denmark Kasper Hvidt 1976 02 06 6 February 1976 age 48 GoalkeeperRetired numbers editTBV Lemgo retired numbers N Nationality Player Position Tenure 6 nbsp Laszlo Marosi Left Back Left Winger 1990 1999EHF ranking editAs of 8 April 2022 2 Rank Team Points 49 nbsp IK Savehof 127 50 nbsp Dynamo Viktor 126 51 nbsp Skjern Handbold 125 52 nbsp TBV Lemgo 125 53 nbsp SKA Minsk 125 54 nbsp AHC Potaissa Turda 124 55 nbsp CSM București 120Former club members editNotable former players edit nbsp Markus Baur 2001 2007 nbsp Jens Bechtloff 2007 2015 nbsp Mike Bezdicek 1989 1994 1995 1998 2004 2005 nbsp Sven Soren Christophersen 2003 2006 2007 2008 nbsp Nils Dresrusse 2011 2016 nbsp Ulf Ganschow 1994 2003 nbsp Holger Glandorf 2009 2011 nbsp Lutz Grosser 1991 2001 nbsp Hans Jurgen Grund 1982 1984 nbsp Michael Hegemann 2006 2008 nbsp Benjamin Herth 2013 2015 nbsp Rolf Hermann 2007 2017 nbsp Fynn Holpert 1989 1991 1994 1998 nbsp Tim Hornke 2014 2019 nbsp Lars Kaufmann 2007 2009 nbsp Florian Kehrmann 1999 2014 nbsp Michael Kraus 2007 2010 nbsp Finn Lemke 2011 2015 nbsp Carsten Lichtlein 2005 2013 nbsp Nikolai Link 2010 2012 nbsp Arne Niemeyer 2015 2016 nbsp Rainer Niemeyer 1987 1988 nbsp Hendrik Pekeler 2012 2015 nbsp Sebastian Preiss 2005 2013 nbsp Christian Ramota 2001 2005 nbsp Timm Schneider 2012 2015 nbsp Achim Schurmann 1994 2003 nbsp Christian Schwarzer 2001 2007 nbsp Daniel Stephan 1994 2008 nbsp Martin Strobel 2008 2013 nbsp Tim Suton 2014 2015 2016 nbsp Christoph Theuerkauf 2010 2012 2016 2021 nbsp Lukas Zerbe 2019 nbsp Volker Zerbe 1984 2006 nbsp Jorg Zereike 2002 2009 nbsp Patrick Zieker 2012 2019 nbsp Thomas Bauer 2013 2015 nbsp Lukas Hutecek 2021 nbsp nbsp Gennadij Chalepo 1998 1999 nbsp Andrej Siniak 1996 2001 nbsp Erwin Feuchtmann 2015 2016 nbsp Martin Galia 2008 2011 nbsp Filip Jicha 2005 2007 nbsp Daniel Kubes 2008 2010 nbsp Lasse Boesen 2007 2008 nbsp Kasper Hvidt 1998 2000 nbsp Kasper Nielsen 2015 nbsp Mait Patrail 2011 2012 nbsp Philippe Julia 1996 1997 nbsp Sergo Datukashvili 2010 2011 nbsp Donat Bartok 2015 2019 nbsp Ferenc Ilyes 2009 2011 nbsp Laszlo Marosi 1990 1999 nbsp Tamas Mocsai 1989 1996 2006 2010 nbsp Logi Geirsson 2004 2010 nbsp Asgeir Orn Hallgrimsson 2005 2007 nbsp Bjarki Mar Elisson 2019 2022 nbsp Vignir Svavarsson 2008 2010 nbsp Sigurdur Sveinsson 1983 1988 nbsp Avishay Smoler 2010 2012 nbsp Evars Klesniks 2020 nbsp Dani Baijens 2018 2021 nbsp Niko Blaauw 2020 nbsp Arjan Haenen 2009 2016 nbsp Bobby Schagen 2019 nbsp Mark Schmetz 2008 2010 nbsp Fabian van Olphen 2017 2020 nbsp Piotr Wyszomirski 2016 2020 nbsp Ionuț Ramba 2015 2017 nbsp Sergey Pogorelov 1999 2000 nbsp Azat Valiullin 2016 2018 nbsp Jaume Fort 1999 2001 nbsp Gedeon Guardiola 2020 nbsp Isaias Guardiola 2018 nbsp Marc Baumgartner 1994 1998 2000 2005 nbsp Carlos Lima 2002 2004 nbsp Manuel Liniger 2010 2012 nbsp Dan Beutler 2015 nbsp Jonathan Carlsbogard 2018 2022 nbsp Andreas Cederholm 2019 2022 nbsp Peter Johannesson 2017 2022 nbsp Andreas Larsson 1997 1999 nbsp Jesper Larsson 2009 nbsp Rickard Lonn 2013 2014 nbsp Anton Mansson 2015 2017 nbsp Jonathan Stenbacken 2015 2017 Former coaches edit Seasons Coach Country 1989 1996 Lajos Mocsai nbsp 1996 2001 Yuri Shevtsov nbsp 2001 2002 Zbigniew Tluczynski nbsp 2002 2007 Volker Mudrow nbsp 2007 Peter Meisinger nbsp 2007 Volker Zerbe nbsp 2008 2009 Markus Baur nbsp 2009 2011 Volker Mudrow nbsp 2011 2013 Dirk Beuchler nbsp 2013 2014 Niels Pfannenschmidt nbsp 2014 Florian Kehrmann nbsp References edit Mannschaft TBV Lemgo Lippe Eurotopteam classement europeen des clubs de Handball External links edit nbsp Wikimedia Commons has media related to TBV Lemgo Official website nbsp Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title TBV Lemgo amp oldid 1212171692, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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