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Ralph Milne

Ralph Milne (13 May 1961 – 6 September 2015) was a Scottish professional footballer whose clubs included Dundee United, Charlton Athletic, Bristol City and Manchester United. He played as both an attacking midfielder or a winger.

Ralph Milne
Personal information
Full name Ralph Milne[1]
Date of birth (1961-05-13)13 May 1961
Place of birth Dundee, Scotland
Date of death 6 September 2015(2015-09-06) (aged 54)
Place of death Dundee, Scotland
Height 5 ft 7 in (1.70 m)[2]
Position(s) Midfielder
Youth career
1970–1976 Dundee Celtic Boys Club
Senior career*
Years Team Apps (Gls)
1976–1987 Dundee United 179 (45)
1987–1988 Charlton Athletic 22 (0)
1988 Bristol City 30 (6)
1988–1991 Manchester United 23 (3)
1990West Ham United (loan) 0 (0)
1991–1992 Sing Tao
Total 254 (54)
International career
1981–1983 Scotland U21 3 (0)
*Club domestic league appearances and goals

He began his career at Dundee United, helping the club to be crowned Premier Division champions in 1982–83, and playing in Scottish Cup and League Cup final defeats. In recognition of his contribution to the most successful period in the club's history, Milne has been inducted into the Dundee United Hall of Fame, alongside several of his former teammates. He made a total of 285 appearances for Dundee United in major competitions and is the club's all-time top scorer in Europe (UEFA Cup and European Cup) with a tally of 15 goals. Milne is often considered to be among the best Scottish footballers not to win a full senior cap.

Hampered by his heavy drinking, he hit his peak at an early age and after an unsuccessful spell at English club Charlton Athletic from January 1987, ended the 1987–88 season with Third Division club Bristol City. He returned to the First Division after being signed by Alex Ferguson at Manchester United in November 1988 for a £170,000 fee, but failed to restart his career. Barring a brief spell in Hong Kong with Sing Tao, Milne played his last first-team game as a professional at the age of 28.

Club career edit

Ralph Milne was born in Dundee, the youngest of four siblings, on 13 May 1961.[3] He was moved forward a year in primary school due to his remarkable academic progress.[4] He began his football career as a youth with Dundee Celtic Boys Club, where he played initially as a striker and had a prolific goalscoring record.[5]

Dundee United edit

Immediate success edit

Milne signed for Dundee United in January 1976 and after a couple of seasons in the reserves began to feature for the first team during the 1979–80 campaign. He scored his first goal at the age of 18 during his full debut appearance on 28 July 1979, United's third goal in a 3–0 win over Dunfermline Athletic in a Drybrough Cup tie.[6] Milne scored his first Premier Division goal on 8 September in a 2–2 draw away against Celtic, netting the equaliser with a long-range shot.[7] By the end of his debut season, Milne had played 20 games, eight of which he was in the starting line-up for, and scored three goals.[8] He was named as the club's Reserve Player of the Year and picked up a 1979 Scottish League Cup Final winners medal despite not being named in the matchday squad.[9]

The 1980–81 season saw Milne become a regular in the Dundee United team, scoring 10 goals in 33 appearances.[8] United retained the League Cup, though Milne did not feature in the final victory over their Dundee derby rivals at Dens Park.[10] He finished the season playing in the 1981 Scottish Cup Final side, which ended in a 4–1 defeat to Rangers after a replay.[11] Milne was now being described by manager Jim McLean as "potentially... the most exciting player in Scotland", describing Milne as a "winger with pace who can score goals". McLean however expressed reservations about Milne's overall attitude and ability to play through patches of poor form.[12]

Dundee United reached another final in the 1981–82 season, and Milne scored the opening goal in the 1981 Scottish League Cup Final on 28 November 1981, latching onto a pass from Paul Sturrock and striking a low powerful shot past the Rangers goalkeeper; however Rangers went on to controversially win 2–1 after another goal for Dundee United, "scored" by Sturrock, had been disallowed for offside.[13] Milne also impressed in Europe that season, scoring against AS Monaco, Borussia Mönchengladbach and Winterslag (twice) in the UEFA Cup.[14][15][16]

League title and European Cup campaign edit

The 1982–83 season proved to be a seminal year for both Dundee United and 21 year-old Milne. The club won the league for the first time, finishing one point ahead of Celtic and "New Firm rivals" Aberdeen in a tightly fought league campaign.[17] Milne's 16 goals in the league, playing wide right, were a significant contribution to United's league win.[8] One of the most high profile of these goals was on 20 April when he scored the winning goal in a 3–2 win over Celtic at Parkhead; he controlled an Eamonn Bannon cross from the right on his chest and volleyed the ball from 20 yards out past Celtic goalkeeper Packie Bonner.[18][19]

On the last day of the season, 14 May 1983, Dundee United needed a win to guarantee the league title. The day after his 22nd birthday, Milne opened the scoring against local rivals Dundee with a skilfully executed long-distance chipped shot; the match finished 2–1 to United.[19][20][21][22] Milne achieved his peak goal tally in his career that season, scoring 21 goals in all competitions.[8] Having turned 22 the day before the game, the goal against Dundee was to be the defining moment of his career.[4]

Dundee United's league success saw them take part in the European Cup in 1983–84. Milne scored doubles against Hamrun Spartans[23] and Standard Liège[24] as United reached the semi-final, losing 3–2 on aggregate to Roma in an ill-tempered tie.[25][26] Dundee United also failed to retain their league title, finishing in third place and 10 points behind champions Aberdeen.[27] Milne's goal tally also dropped significantly from the previous year, down to five goals in the league and a total of 12 in all competitions.[8]

Discipline problems and decline edit

Milne was with Dundee United for a further three seasons and still a regular player in the team, although he scored less frequently. Milne's increasingly fractious relationship with manager Jim McLean was also becoming common knowledge; in December 1983 McLean publicly criticised Milne, stating: "I have tried to get the message across to him that it is when he is not playing well that he needs to work hardest. It is plainly not sinking in."[28]

In August 1984, Milne scored both goals against Nottingham Forest in a pre-season testimonial match for McLean.[29] However, after the game the pair again fell out because of a brief conversation Milne had with Brian Clough which led McLean to believe the player was trying to arrange a deal away from United; by this time Milne had grown increasingly frustrated over being frequently fined a week's wages for breaking minor club rules and generally offending McLean's strict sense of discipline.[30] The financial strain this caused led to him to work as a casual labourer in order to meet his mortgage repayments.[31] By this time his drinking had become more of a problem, resulting in a struggle to maintain fitness.[32]

Milne featured in a further two Cup finals for United, losing 1–0 to Rangers in October 1984 in the Scottish League Cup Final[33] and losing 2–1 to Celtic in May 1985 in the Scottish Cup Final.[34] He aggravated a hamstring injury in the final against Rangers and was out of action for three months.[35] In 1986–87, he played in the first three rounds of the UEFA Cup run (scoring once, against RC Lens in the first round)[36] which eventually saw the team beat Barcelona and Borussia Mönchengladbach on their way to the final. However, Milne had left in January 1987 before these high-profile games took place, sold to Charlton Athletic, having lost his place in the side to the up-and-coming Kevin Gallacher.[37] Milne made a total of 285 appearances for Dundee United in major competitions and is the club's all-time top scorer in Europe (UEFA Cup and European Cup) with a tally of 15 goals.[38]

Charlton Athletic edit

He was sold to English First Division club Charlton Athletic in January 1987 for a fee of £125,000.[39][40] He played at Wembley Stadium in the final of the Full Members Cup on 29 March, which ended in a 1–0 defeat to Blackburn Rovers.[41] Charlton finished the 1986–87 season in the relegation play-off place, but retained their top-flight status after beating Leeds United 2–1 in a replay in the play-off final, following a 1–1 aggregate draw. Milne only played as a late substitute in the first leg at Selhurst Park, and ended the game with a broken jaw after being elbowed by Micky Adams.[42] He dropped out of manager Lennie Lawrence's first team plans during the 1987–88 season, and was allowed to leave the club.[43]

Bristol City edit

Milne dropped down two divisions to join Bristol City for a £50,000 fee in January 1988.[44] City ended the 1987–88 campaign in the play-offs, but failed to gain promotion after losing 4–0 to Walsall in a replay of the play-off final.[45]

After a full pre-season he started to play well and hit six goals in 30 Third Division games during his time at Ashton Gate. Milne's form attracted attention elsewhere with Aberdeen among those interested, a move Milne favoured to be near his son and other family in Scotland.[46] On being called into a meeting with manager, Joe Jordan, Milne was told by Jordan that he had no intention of letting him nor any of his other best players leave, but that he would make an exception for Manchester United.[4][47]

Manchester United edit

Milne's form at Bristol City was enough to convince Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson that he was still worth a contract with a top-flight club. In November 1988 he moved to Old Trafford in a £170,000 deal.[48] Ferguson was looking to build a title-winning side two years after joining United, but had seen his side finish second in the league the previous season and now they were on a winless run in the league that saw them mid-table. Ferguson selected Milne on the left wing as Gordon Strachan was already established on the right wing.[22]

Milne managed three goals in 22 league appearances in 1988–89. The first was a 20-yard volley on 3 December 1988 in a 3–0 home win over former club Charlton Athletic, which ended United's nine-match winless run (eight draws and a defeat) in the First Division.[49] He also scored on Boxing Day in a 2–0 win over Nottingham Forest at Old Trafford.[50] The following week, Milne played what he felt was his best game in a Manchester United jersey in a 3–1 New Year's victory over rivals Liverpool.[51] However, they were unable to maintain their form and finished 11th in the league after winning only three of their last 14 league games.[52] Milne scored his third and final United goal on 25 March 1989 in a 2–0 home win over Luton Town, once again in the league.[53]

In September 1989, Ferguson signed left-winger Danny Wallace from Southampton.[54] Wallace was not a particularly successful buy for United, and was soon himself struggling to hold down a place in the first team, but the progression of Lee Sharpe meant that Milne was forced out of the first team picture at Old Trafford in 1989–90, making one substitute appearance in the league.[55] During that season, as United struggled in the league but won the FA Cup, Milne was loaned out to Lou Macari's West Ham United, where he made the final appearance of his career in a League Cup tie on 24 January 1990 away to Derby County at the age of 28.[56] His season was ended shortly afterwards after he picked up groin injury that required surgery.[57] Despite being given a new one-year contract he began missing reserve team games during the 1990–91 season and instead spent his time drinking.[58]

Milne has been described as Ferguson's and even as Manchester United's worst signing, despite his low transfer fee.[59] Ferguson defended the signing by pointing out Milne's contribution to the development of Lee Sharpe, who was playing left-back at the time.[60] Ferguson remarked that Milne helped Sharpe by both dropping back to protect Sharpe and by giving him positional advice.[4] Milne remained on United's payroll until 30 June 1991, when he was released.[61]

"You know what it's like? It's like being a kid watching a movie, and it's a sad ending. And you start crying. If it makes a huge impression when United want to sign you, it makes a huge one when they want to get rid of you. Bang, the door's closed. You're finished."

— Milne was revitalised when he was approached by United, but his failure at Old Trafford left him mentally drained.[62]

Sing Tao edit

Milne had unsuccessful trials with Turkish club MKE Ankaragücü and Danish side Esbjerg fB in 1991.[63] Later in the year he travelled to Hong Kong to play for Sing Tao SC. He spent a year there, helping the club to finish fourth in the First Division in 1991–92, before he rejected the offer of a new contract and instead returned to Britain.[64] He had a trial spell at Derry City before quitting football at the age of 32.[65][66]

International career edit

Milne made his debut for the Scotland under-21 side on 8 September 1981 at the age of 20, when he on came as a substitute for Alan Brazil during a 4–0 win over Sweden in Edinburgh.[67] He made a further two appearances for the under-21 side as an overage player in the autumn of 1983, playing against Belgium (0–0 at Dundee) and East Germany (1–1 at Jena, East Germany).[68] He was never capped for the senior team, and has been cited as one of the best Scottish footballers not to win a full senior cap.[69] According to Milne himself the Scotland manager Jock Stein intended to take him on a warm-up tour to the United States, but was told not to by McLean, for which Milne never forgave him.[70]

Style of play edit

Milne was naturally right-footed, though trained hard with his left foot as a boy to become equally skilled with both feet.[71] Former Dundee United teammate Paul Hegarty stated that Milne possessed great pace, as well as bravery, a good work ethic, and an ability to score important goals.[72] Another former Dundee United teammate, Davie Dodds, said that Milne was as good a finisher as any player in Scottish football during the 1980s.[73]

Jim McLean, Milne's manager at Dundee United, summed up Milne's career and footballing ability when writing his autobiography:

"If I had an outstanding failure then it was Ralph Milne. He should have been playing in World Cups. He should have won a bundle of Scotland international honours. It was a tragedy that that boy was not playing for his country all the time. He had tremendous talent – and I failed with him. He did not have the right attitude to the game and I could not instil that into him."[74]

Personal life edit

He was married to Kim from 1985 to 1988, and the couple had a son, Bradley.[75] He also had a son, Robert, with new partner Lee in 1990.[76] The relationship with Lee ended after ten years.[77] In 2005, he began a relationship with Fiona Spence, 19 years his junior, who stayed with Milne for over eight years despite admitting that Milne regularly beat her.[78]

Milne had admitted to problems with alcoholism and problem gambling during and after his playing career.[79][80][81] He was always an enthusiastic drinker throughout his career, but he lost his passion for football after picking up an injury in 1990 and began drinking in a way which began to severely damage his health.[82] After retiring as a player he worked at a pub in Nailsea.[83] He appeared in court in 2010 and 2013, but was never convicted, for allegedly attacking his partner Fiona Spence whilst highly intoxicated.[84] Milne's manager at Dundee United, Jim McLean, has since stated that Milne would have had greater success in his career were it not for his problems with alcohol and discipline.[74][85] Milne died on 6 September 2015, at the age of 54, due to complications from liver problems.[86][87]

Career statistics edit

Appearances and goals by club, season and competition
Club Season League National Cup League Cup Europe Total
Division Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals
Dundee United 1979–80 Scottish Premier Division 13 2 0 0 4 0 2 0 19 2
1980–81 Scottish Premier Division 21 7 6 0 5 3 1 0 33 10
1981–82 Scottish Premier Division 35 8 4 0 8 2 8 4 55 14
1982–83 Scottish Premier Division 34 16 1 0 6 2 8 3 49 21
1983–84 Scottish Premier Division 25 5 4 0 10 3 8 4 47 12
1984–85 Scottish Premier Division 19 4 5 0 5 2 2 2 31 8
1985–86 Scottish Premier Division 18 2 2 0 3 2 6 1 29 5
1986–87 Scottish Premier Division 14 1 0 0 2 0 6 1 22 2
Total 179 45 22 0 43 14 41 15 285 74
Charlton Athletic 1986–87 First Division 12 0 12 0
1987–88 First Division 10 0 10 0
Total 22 0 22 0
Bristol City 1987–88 Third Division 19 4 19 4
1988–89 Third Division 11 2 11 2
Total 30 6 30 6
Manchester United 1988–89 First Division 22 3 7 0 0 0 29 3
1989–90 First Division 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
1990–91 First Division 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total 23 3 7 0 0 0 0 0 30 3
West Ham United (loan) 1989–90 Second Division 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0
Career total[8][56][88] 254 54 29 0 44 14 41 15 368 83

Honours edit

Dundee United

Charlton Athletic

References edit

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General

  • Milne, Ralph; Robertson, Gary (2009), What's It All About Ralphie?, Black & White, ISBN 978-1-84502-269-3

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Ralph Milne 13 May 1961 6 September 2015 was a Scottish professional footballer whose clubs included Dundee United Charlton Athletic Bristol City and Manchester United He played as both an attacking midfielder or a winger Ralph MilnePersonal informationFull nameRalph Milne 1 Date of birth 1961 05 13 13 May 1961Place of birthDundee ScotlandDate of death6 September 2015 2015 09 06 aged 54 Place of deathDundee ScotlandHeight5 ft 7 in 1 70 m 2 Position s MidfielderYouth career1970 1976Dundee Celtic Boys ClubSenior career YearsTeamApps Gls 1976 1987Dundee United179 45 1987 1988Charlton Athletic22 0 1988Bristol City30 6 1988 1991Manchester United23 3 1990 West Ham United loan 0 0 1991 1992Sing TaoTotal254 54 International career1981 1983Scotland U213 0 Club domestic league appearances and goalsHe began his career at Dundee United helping the club to be crowned Premier Division champions in 1982 83 and playing in Scottish Cup and League Cup final defeats In recognition of his contribution to the most successful period in the club s history Milne has been inducted into the Dundee United Hall of Fame alongside several of his former teammates He made a total of 285 appearances for Dundee United in major competitions and is the club s all time top scorer in Europe UEFA Cup and European Cup with a tally of 15 goals Milne is often considered to be among the best Scottish footballers not to win a full senior cap Hampered by his heavy drinking he hit his peak at an early age and after an unsuccessful spell at English club Charlton Athletic from January 1987 ended the 1987 88 season with Third Division club Bristol City He returned to the First Division after being signed by Alex Ferguson at Manchester United in November 1988 for a 170 000 fee but failed to restart his career Barring a brief spell in Hong Kong with Sing Tao Milne played his last first team game as a professional at the age of 28 Contents 1 Club career 1 1 Dundee United 1 1 1 Immediate success 1 1 2 League title and European Cup campaign 1 1 3 Discipline problems and decline 1 2 Charlton Athletic 1 3 Bristol City 1 4 Manchester United 1 5 Sing Tao 2 International career 3 Style of play 4 Personal life 5 Career statistics 6 Honours 7 ReferencesClub career editRalph Milne was born in Dundee the youngest of four siblings on 13 May 1961 3 He was moved forward a year in primary school due to his remarkable academic progress 4 He began his football career as a youth with Dundee Celtic Boys Club where he played initially as a striker and had a prolific goalscoring record 5 Dundee United edit Immediate success edit Milne signed for Dundee United in January 1976 and after a couple of seasons in the reserves began to feature for the first team during the 1979 80 campaign He scored his first goal at the age of 18 during his full debut appearance on 28 July 1979 United s third goal in a 3 0 win over Dunfermline Athletic in a Drybrough Cup tie 6 Milne scored his first Premier Division goal on 8 September in a 2 2 draw away against Celtic netting the equaliser with a long range shot 7 By the end of his debut season Milne had played 20 games eight of which he was in the starting line up for and scored three goals 8 He was named as the club s Reserve Player of the Year and picked up a 1979 Scottish League Cup Final winners medal despite not being named in the matchday squad 9 The 1980 81 season saw Milne become a regular in the Dundee United team scoring 10 goals in 33 appearances 8 United retained the League Cup though Milne did not feature in the final victory over their Dundee derby rivals at Dens Park 10 He finished the season playing in the 1981 Scottish Cup Final side which ended in a 4 1 defeat to Rangers after a replay 11 Milne was now being described by manager Jim McLean as potentially the most exciting player in Scotland describing Milne as a winger with pace who can score goals McLean however expressed reservations about Milne s overall attitude and ability to play through patches of poor form 12 Dundee United reached another final in the 1981 82 season and Milne scored the opening goal in the 1981 Scottish League Cup Final on 28 November 1981 latching onto a pass from Paul Sturrock and striking a low powerful shot past the Rangers goalkeeper however Rangers went on to controversially win 2 1 after another goal for Dundee United scored by Sturrock had been disallowed for offside 13 Milne also impressed in Europe that season scoring against AS Monaco Borussia Monchengladbach and Winterslag twice in the UEFA Cup 14 15 16 League title and European Cup campaign edit The 1982 83 season proved to be a seminal year for both Dundee United and 21 year old Milne The club won the league for the first time finishing one point ahead of Celtic and New Firm rivals Aberdeen in a tightly fought league campaign 17 Milne s 16 goals in the league playing wide right were a significant contribution to United s league win 8 One of the most high profile of these goals was on 20 April when he scored the winning goal in a 3 2 win over Celtic at Parkhead he controlled an Eamonn Bannon cross from the right on his chest and volleyed the ball from 20 yards out past Celtic goalkeeper Packie Bonner 18 19 On the last day of the season 14 May 1983 Dundee United needed a win to guarantee the league title The day after his 22nd birthday Milne opened the scoring against local rivals Dundee with a skilfully executed long distance chipped shot the match finished 2 1 to United 19 20 21 22 Milne achieved his peak goal tally in his career that season scoring 21 goals in all competitions 8 Having turned 22 the day before the game the goal against Dundee was to be the defining moment of his career 4 Dundee United s league success saw them take part in the European Cup in 1983 84 Milne scored doubles against Hamrun Spartans 23 and Standard Liege 24 as United reached the semi final losing 3 2 on aggregate to Roma in an ill tempered tie 25 26 Dundee United also failed to retain their league title finishing in third place and 10 points behind champions Aberdeen 27 Milne s goal tally also dropped significantly from the previous year down to five goals in the league and a total of 12 in all competitions 8 Discipline problems and decline edit Milne was with Dundee United for a further three seasons and still a regular player in the team although he scored less frequently Milne s increasingly fractious relationship with manager Jim McLean was also becoming common knowledge in December 1983 McLean publicly criticised Milne stating I have tried to get the message across to him that it is when he is not playing well that he needs to work hardest It is plainly not sinking in 28 In August 1984 Milne scored both goals against Nottingham Forest in a pre season testimonial match for McLean 29 However after the game the pair again fell out because of a brief conversation Milne had with Brian Clough which led McLean to believe the player was trying to arrange a deal away from United by this time Milne had grown increasingly frustrated over being frequently fined a week s wages for breaking minor club rules and generally offending McLean s strict sense of discipline 30 The financial strain this caused led to him to work as a casual labourer in order to meet his mortgage repayments 31 By this time his drinking had become more of a problem resulting in a struggle to maintain fitness 32 Milne featured in a further two Cup finals for United losing 1 0 to Rangers in October 1984 in the Scottish League Cup Final 33 and losing 2 1 to Celtic in May 1985 in the Scottish Cup Final 34 He aggravated a hamstring injury in the final against Rangers and was out of action for three months 35 In 1986 87 he played in the first three rounds of the UEFA Cup run scoring once against RC Lens in the first round 36 which eventually saw the team beat Barcelona and Borussia Monchengladbach on their way to the final However Milne had left in January 1987 before these high profile games took place sold to Charlton Athletic having lost his place in the side to the up and coming Kevin Gallacher 37 Milne made a total of 285 appearances for Dundee United in major competitions and is the club s all time top scorer in Europe UEFA Cup and European Cup with a tally of 15 goals 38 Charlton Athletic edit He was sold to English First Division club Charlton Athletic in January 1987 for a fee of 125 000 39 40 He played at Wembley Stadium in the final of the Full Members Cup on 29 March which ended in a 1 0 defeat to Blackburn Rovers 41 Charlton finished the 1986 87 season in the relegation play off place but retained their top flight status after beating Leeds United 2 1 in a replay in the play off final following a 1 1 aggregate draw Milne only played as a late substitute in the first leg at Selhurst Park and ended the game with a broken jaw after being elbowed by Micky Adams 42 He dropped out of manager Lennie Lawrence s first team plans during the 1987 88 season and was allowed to leave the club 43 Bristol City edit Milne dropped down two divisions to join Bristol City for a 50 000 fee in January 1988 44 City ended the 1987 88 campaign in the play offs but failed to gain promotion after losing 4 0 to Walsall in a replay of the play off final 45 After a full pre season he started to play well and hit six goals in 30 Third Division games during his time at Ashton Gate Milne s form attracted attention elsewhere with Aberdeen among those interested a move Milne favoured to be near his son and other family in Scotland 46 On being called into a meeting with manager Joe Jordan Milne was told by Jordan that he had no intention of letting him nor any of his other best players leave but that he would make an exception for Manchester United 4 47 Manchester United edit Milne s form at Bristol City was enough to convince Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson that he was still worth a contract with a top flight club In November 1988 he moved to Old Trafford in a 170 000 deal 48 Ferguson was looking to build a title winning side two years after joining United but had seen his side finish second in the league the previous season and now they were on a winless run in the league that saw them mid table Ferguson selected Milne on the left wing as Gordon Strachan was already established on the right wing 22 Milne managed three goals in 22 league appearances in 1988 89 The first was a 20 yard volley on 3 December 1988 in a 3 0 home win over former club Charlton Athletic which ended United s nine match winless run eight draws and a defeat in the First Division 49 He also scored on Boxing Day in a 2 0 win over Nottingham Forest at Old Trafford 50 The following week Milne played what he felt was his best game in a Manchester United jersey in a 3 1 New Year s victory over rivals Liverpool 51 However they were unable to maintain their form and finished 11th in the league after winning only three of their last 14 league games 52 Milne scored his third and final United goal on 25 March 1989 in a 2 0 home win over Luton Town once again in the league 53 In September 1989 Ferguson signed left winger Danny Wallace from Southampton 54 Wallace was not a particularly successful buy for United and was soon himself struggling to hold down a place in the first team but the progression of Lee Sharpe meant that Milne was forced out of the first team picture at Old Trafford in 1989 90 making one substitute appearance in the league 55 During that season as United struggled in the league but won the FA Cup Milne was loaned out to Lou Macari s West Ham United where he made the final appearance of his career in a League Cup tie on 24 January 1990 away to Derby County at the age of 28 56 His season was ended shortly afterwards after he picked up groin injury that required surgery 57 Despite being given a new one year contract he began missing reserve team games during the 1990 91 season and instead spent his time drinking 58 Milne has been described as Ferguson s and even as Manchester United s worst signing despite his low transfer fee 59 Ferguson defended the signing by pointing out Milne s contribution to the development of Lee Sharpe who was playing left back at the time 60 Ferguson remarked that Milne helped Sharpe by both dropping back to protect Sharpe and by giving him positional advice 4 Milne remained on United s payroll until 30 June 1991 when he was released 61 You know what it s like It s like being a kid watching a movie and it s a sad ending And you start crying If it makes a huge impression when United want to sign you it makes a huge one when they want to get rid of you Bang the door s closed You re finished Milne was revitalised when he was approached by United but his failure at Old Trafford left him mentally drained 62 Sing Tao edit Milne had unsuccessful trials with Turkish club MKE Ankaragucu and Danish side Esbjerg fB in 1991 63 Later in the year he travelled to Hong Kong to play for Sing Tao SC He spent a year there helping the club to finish fourth in the First Division in 1991 92 before he rejected the offer of a new contract and instead returned to Britain 64 He had a trial spell at Derry City before quitting football at the age of 32 65 66 International career editMilne made his debut for the Scotland under 21 side on 8 September 1981 at the age of 20 when he on came as a substitute for Alan Brazil during a 4 0 win over Sweden in Edinburgh 67 He made a further two appearances for the under 21 side as an overage player in the autumn of 1983 playing against Belgium 0 0 at Dundee and East Germany 1 1 at Jena East Germany 68 He was never capped for the senior team and has been cited as one of the best Scottish footballers not to win a full senior cap 69 According to Milne himself the Scotland manager Jock Stein intended to take him on a warm up tour to the United States but was told not to by McLean for which Milne never forgave him 70 Style of play editMilne was naturally right footed though trained hard with his left foot as a boy to become equally skilled with both feet 71 Former Dundee United teammate Paul Hegarty stated that Milne possessed great pace as well as bravery a good work ethic and an ability to score important goals 72 Another former Dundee United teammate Davie Dodds said that Milne was as good a finisher as any player in Scottish football during the 1980s 73 Jim McLean Milne s manager at Dundee United summed up Milne s career and footballing ability when writing his autobiography If I had an outstanding failure then it was Ralph Milne He should have been playing in World Cups He should have won a bundle of Scotland international honours It was a tragedy that that boy was not playing for his country all the time He had tremendous talent and I failed with him He did not have the right attitude to the game and I could not instil that into him 74 Personal life editHe was married to Kim from 1985 to 1988 and the couple had a son Bradley 75 He also had a son Robert with new partner Lee in 1990 76 The relationship with Lee ended after ten years 77 In 2005 he began a relationship with Fiona Spence 19 years his junior who stayed with Milne for over eight years despite admitting that Milne regularly beat her 78 Milne had admitted to problems with alcoholism and problem gambling during and after his playing career 79 80 81 He was always an enthusiastic drinker throughout his career but he lost his passion for football after picking up an injury in 1990 and began drinking in a way which began to severely damage his health 82 After retiring as a player he worked at a pub in Nailsea 83 He appeared in court in 2010 and 2013 but was never convicted for allegedly attacking his partner Fiona Spence whilst highly intoxicated 84 Milne s manager at Dundee United Jim McLean has since stated that Milne would have had greater success in his career were it not for his problems with alcohol and discipline 74 85 Milne died on 6 September 2015 at the age of 54 due to complications from liver problems 86 87 Career statistics editAppearances and goals by club season and competition Club Season League National Cup League Cup Europe TotalDivision Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps GoalsDundee United 1979 80 Scottish Premier Division 13 2 0 0 4 0 2 0 19 21980 81 Scottish Premier Division 21 7 6 0 5 3 1 0 33 101981 82 Scottish Premier Division 35 8 4 0 8 2 8 4 55 141982 83 Scottish Premier Division 34 16 1 0 6 2 8 3 49 211983 84 Scottish Premier Division 25 5 4 0 10 3 8 4 47 121984 85 Scottish Premier Division 19 4 5 0 5 2 2 2 31 81985 86 Scottish Premier Division 18 2 2 0 3 2 6 1 29 51986 87 Scottish Premier Division 14 1 0 0 2 0 6 1 22 2Total 179 45 22 0 43 14 41 15 285 74Charlton Athletic 1986 87 First Division 12 0 12 01987 88 First Division 10 0 10 0Total 22 0 22 0Bristol City 1987 88 Third Division 19 4 19 41988 89 Third Division 11 2 11 2Total 30 6 30 6Manchester United 1988 89 First Division 22 3 7 0 0 0 29 31989 90 First Division 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 01990 91 First Division 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0Total 23 3 7 0 0 0 0 0 30 3West Ham United loan 1989 90 Second Division 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0Career total 8 56 88 254 54 29 0 44 14 41 15 368 83Honours editDundee United Scottish League Cup 1979 9 Scottish Football League Premier Division 1982 83 19 Dundee United Hall of Fame inducted 2009 89 Charlton Athletic Football League Second Division play offs 1987 42 References editSpecific Ralph Milne Barry Hugman s Footballers Retrieved 4 April 2017 Rollin Jack ed 1980 Rothmans Football Yearbook 1980 81 London Queen Anne Press p 118 ISBN 0362020175 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 1 a b c d Ralph Milne When the Floodlights Fade MUTV January 2010 Archived from the original on 19 December 2021 Retrieved 8 September 2015 Our Ralph Milne Dundee United FC 6 September 2015 Archived from the original on 20 September 2016 Retrieved 7 September 2015 Dundee United 3 0 Dunfermline Athletic Dryburgh Cup Arab Archive Retrieved 27 February 2015 Celtic 2 2 Dundee United League Arab Archive Retrieved 27 February 2015 a b c d e f Players Ralph Milne Arab Archive Retrieved 27 February 2015 a b Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 29 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 31 Reynolds Jim 13 May 1981 Cooper hero as Rangers make amends in style The Glasgow Herald p 24 Retrieved 11 January 2015 Better than Dalglish that s mighty Milne Shoot October 1981 Retrieved 28 October 2015 Reynolds Jim 30 November 1981 Rangers shatter Dundee United s League Cup dream The Glasgow Herald p 19 Retrieved 11 January 2015 Dundee United 1 2 AS Monaco Sep 30th 1981 Tannadice Park Arab Archive Retrieved 5 August 2013 Dundee United 5 0 Borussia Monchengladbach Nov 3rd 1981 Tannadice Park Arab Archive Retrieved 5 August 2013 Dundee United 5 0 KFC Winterslag Dec 9th 1981 Tannadice Park Arab Archive Retrieved 5 August 2013 Winton Richard 14 May 2013 Champagne memories of a city United Herald Scotland Retrieved 5 August 2013 Cameron Alex 22 April 1983 Last gasp United Daily Record 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5 August 2013 Paul Ian 29 December 1983 Hibs act quickly to prevent any further crowd trouble The Glasgow Herald p 16 Retrieved 11 April 2014 Two fine Milne goals beat lacklustre Forest The Glasgow Herald 9 August 1984 p 17 Retrieved 11 April 2014 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 84 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 92 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 96 Rangers 1 0 Dundee United Oct 28th 1984 Hampden Park Arab Archive Retrieved 5 August 2013 Dundee United 1 2 Celtic May 18th 1985 Hampden Park Arab Archive Retrieved 5 August 2013 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 86 Dundee United 2 0 RC Lens Oct 1st 1986 Tannadice Park Arab Archive Retrieved 5 August 2013 Cryer Andy 3 July 2009 Kevin Gallacher life story part 2 Growing up was tough as grandson of late great Patsy Lancashire Telegraph Retrieved 11 April 2014 Dundee United FC in Europe UEFA com Retrieved 27 February 2015 Traynor James 28 January 1987 Milne on his way south for 125 000 The Glasgow Herald Retrieved 15 December 2015 Davidson Jack 8 September 2015 Obituary Ralph Milne footballer The Scotsman Retrieved 4 October 2015 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 104 a b Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 106 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 116 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 117 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 120 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 126 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 127 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 134 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 136 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 137 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 138 English Division One old 1988 1989 Statto Retrieved 3 October 2015 Profile Ralph Milne MUFC Info Retrieved 27 February 2015 Wallace battles with MS BBC Sport 30 April 2004 Retrieved 5 August 2013 It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career Lee Sharpe State Of The Game Retrieved 27 February 2015 a b Welcome to the Wonderful World of West Ham United Statistics Ralph Milne West Ham Stats Retrieved 16 April 2012 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 165 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 173 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 175 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 141 Hospitalised Dundee United legend Ralph Milne critical 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1987 Jousting with Giants Billing and Sons pp 162 163 ISBN 1 85158 088 3 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 123 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 172 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 209 McPherson Lynn 18 August 2015 Battered lover of former football star Ralph Milne vows to stay with him despite his drunken violent attacks Daily Record Retrieved 28 March 2016 Former Dundee United star Ralph Milne reveals his battle with the booze Daily Record 15 November 2008 Dundee Utd legend Ralph Milne blasts Jim McLean for ruining his World Cup dream Daily Record 9 October 2009 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 213 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 166 Milne amp Robertson 2009 p 206 Hospitalised Dundee United legend Ralph Milne critical The Scotsman 4 September 2015 Retrieved 4 October 2015 McLean Jim 9 October 2009 Boozing cost Ralph chance of 50 caps Daily Record Retrieved 25 June 2014 Former Dundee United star Ralph Milne dies The Scotsman Edinburgh 6 September 2015 Archived from the original on 8 September 2015 Retrieved 6 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