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No. 8 Group RAF

No. 8 Group RAF (8 Gp) was a Royal Air Force group which existed during the final year of the First World War and during the Second World War.

No. 8 (PFF) Group RAF
No. 8 (Bomber) Group RAF
No. 8 (Training) Group RAF
Active1 April 1918 - 15 May 1919
1 September 1941 - 28 January 1942
13 January 1943 – 15 December 1945
Country United Kingdom
Branch Royal Air Force
TypeRoyal Air Force group
RolePathfinder Force
Part ofRAF Bomber Command
Group HeadquartersBrampton Grange
(September 1941 - January 1942)
RAF Wyton
(January 1943 - May 1943)
Castle Hill House, Huntingdon
(May 1943 - December 1945)
Motto(s)We Guide to strike[1]
Commanders
Notable
commanders
Air Vice Marshal Donald Clifford Tyndall Bennett CB, CBE, DSO
Insignia
Group badgeA Mullet of eight points surmounted by an arrow enflamed, point downwards, in bend sinister[1]
The star and eight points represent the number 8 group and the astro-navigation undertaken by its crews. The flaming arrow was meant to demonstrate their Pathfinding role[2]

First World War edit

No. 8 Group was formed in April 1918 as a training unit and designated 8 Group (Training). It remained in this function throughout the rest of the war and was disbanded in May 1919.

Second World War edit

First formation edit

The Group was re-established as No 8 (Bomber) Group on 1 September 1941 only to be disbanded around five months later on 28 January 1942.

Reformation of Group 8 edit

8 Group was re-constituted when Bomber Command's Pathfinder Force was renamed No. 8 (Pathfinder Force) Group on 8 January 1943.[3] The group consisted of specialist squadrons that marked targets for the main attacks of Bomber Command aircraft. The Force, which had been formed in August 1942 with five squadrons from the existing Bomber Command Groups, flew a mix of Short Stirling, Handley Page Halifax, and Avro Lancaster, all four-engined heavy bomber aircraft, along with Vickers Wellington, a twin-engined, long-range medium bomber aircraft. When new aircraft, such as the de Havilland Mosquito, a twin-engined, multirole combat aircraft became available, 8 Group got the first ones. Its aircraft used navigation aids such as Gee, H2S and Oboe to find the targets of attack more accurately than the main force on its own could. Initially formed of five squadrons, 8 Group ultimately grew to a strength of 19 squadrons.[4]

No. 8 Group was also responsible for the Light Night Striking Force, equipped with Mosquito bombers and used for harassing raids on Germany. It was disbanded on 15 December 1945, though its badge and motto ("We Guide to Strike") were subsequently authorized on 11 March 1953. While the majority of Pathfinder squadrons and personnel were from the Royal Air Force, the group also included many from the air forces of other Commonwealth countries. The PFF flew a total of 50,490 individual sorties against some 3,440 targets. The cost in human lives was grievous. At least 3,727 members were killed on operations and 675 aircraft lost.

Structure edit

February 1943[5]
February 1944[6]
22 March 1945[7]

Headquarters edit

  • August 1942 - RAF Wyton
  • June 1943 - Castle Hill House, Huntingdon

Air Officer Commanding edit

1918 to 1919 edit

1941 to 1942 edit

1943 to 1945 edit

See also edit

References edit

Citations edit

  1. ^ a b Moyes 1976, p. 347.
  2. ^ Delve, Ken (2005). Bomber Command 1939-1945 : a reference to the men - aircraft & operational history. Barnsley: Pen & Sword Aviation. p. 172. ISBN 1-84415-183-2.
  3. ^ Moyes 1976, p. 348.
  4. ^ Royal Air Force, Bomber Command No.8 Pathfinder Force Group 26 March 2017 at the Wayback Machine, accessed December 2011
  5. ^ Falconer 2012, p. 308.
  6. ^ Falconer 2012, p. 309.
  7. ^ Falconer 2012, p. 310.

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No 8 Group RAF 8 Gp was a Royal Air Force group which existed during the final year of the First World War and during the Second World War No 8 PFF Group RAFNo 8 Bomber Group RAFNo 8 Training Group RAFRoyal Air Force EnsignActive1 April 1918 15 May 1919 1 September 1941 28 January 1942 13 January 1943 15 December 1945Country United KingdomBranch Royal Air ForceTypeRoyal Air Force groupRolePathfinder ForcePart ofRAF Bomber CommandGroup HeadquartersBrampton Grange September 1941 January 1942 RAF Wyton January 1943 May 1943 Castle Hill House Huntingdon May 1943 December 1945 Motto s We Guide to strike 1 CommandersNotablecommandersAir Vice Marshal Donald Clifford Tyndall Bennett CB CBE DSOInsigniaGroup badgeA Mullet of eight points surmounted by an arrow enflamed point downwards in bend sinister 1 The star and eight points represent the number 8 group and the astro navigation undertaken by its crews The flaming arrow was meant to demonstrate their Pathfinding role 2 Contents 1 First World War 2 Second World War 2 1 First formation 2 2 Reformation of Group 8 3 Structure 4 Headquarters 5 Air Officer Commanding 5 1 1918 to 1919 5 2 1941 to 1942 5 3 1943 to 1945 6 See also 7 References 7 1 Citations 8 Bibliography 9 External linksFirst World War editNo 8 Group was formed in April 1918 as a training unit and designated 8 Group Training It remained in this function throughout the rest of the war and was disbanded in May 1919 Second World War editFirst formation edit The Group was re established as No 8 Bomber Group on 1 September 1941 only to be disbanded around five months later on 28 January 1942 Reformation of Group 8 edit Main article Pathfinder RAF 8 Group was re constituted when Bomber Command s Pathfinder Force was renamed No 8 Pathfinder Force Group on 8 January 1943 3 The group consisted of specialist squadrons that marked targets for the main attacks of Bomber Command aircraft The Force which had been formed in August 1942 with five squadrons from the existing Bomber Command Groups flew a mix of Short Stirling Handley Page Halifax and Avro Lancaster all four engined heavy bomber aircraft along with Vickers Wellington a twin engined long range medium bomber aircraft When new aircraft such as the de Havilland Mosquito a twin engined multirole combat aircraft became available 8 Group got the first ones Its aircraft used navigation aids such as Gee H2S and Oboe to find the targets of attack more accurately than the main force on its own could Initially formed of five squadrons 8 Group ultimately grew to a strength of 19 squadrons 4 No 8 Group was also responsible for the Light Night Striking Force equipped with Mosquito bombers and used for harassing raids on Germany It was disbanded on 15 December 1945 though its badge and motto We Guide to Strike were subsequently authorized on 11 March 1953 While the majority of Pathfinder squadrons and personnel were from the Royal Air Force the group also included many from the air forces of other Commonwealth countries The PFF flew a total of 50 490 individual sorties against some 3 440 targets The cost in human lives was grievous At least 3 727 members were killed on operations and 675 aircraft lost Structure editFebruary 1943 5 No 7 Squadron RAF at RAF Oakington with the Short Stirling I No 35 Squadron RAF at RAF Graveley with the Handley Page Halifax II No 83 Squadron RAF at RAF Wyton with the Avro Lancaster I III No 109 Squadron RAF at RAF Wyton with the de Havilland Mosquito IV No 156 Squadron RAF at RAF Warboys with the Vickers Wellington III amp Avro Lancaster I IIIFebruary 1944 6 No 7 Squadron RAF at RAF Oakington with the Avro Lancaster I III No 35 Squadron RAF at RAF Graveley with the Handley Page Halifax III No 83 Squadron RAF at RAF Wyton with the Avro Lancaster I III No 105 Squadron RAF at RAF Marham with the de Havilland Mosquito IV IX No 109 Squadron RAF at RAF Marham with the de Havilland Mosquito IV IX No 139 Squadron RAF at RAF Upwood with the de Havilland Mosquito IV IX XVI XX No 156 Squadron RAF at RAF Warboys with the Avro Lancaster I III No 405 Squadron RCAF at RAF Gransden Lodge with the Avro Lancaster I III No 627 Squadron RAF at RAF Oakington with the de Havilland Mosquito IV No 692 Squadron RAF at RAF Graveley with the de Havilland Mosquito IV22 March 1945 7 No 7 Squadron RAF at RAF Oakington with the Avro Lancaster I III No 35 Squadron RAF at RAF Graveley with the Avro Lancaster I III No 105 Squadron RAF at RAF Bourn with the de Havilland Mosquito IX XVI No 109 Squadron RAF at RAF Little Staughton with the de Havilland Mosquito IX XVI No 128 Squadron RAF at RAF Wyton with the de Havilland Mosquito XVI No 139 Squadron RAF at RAF Upwood with the de Havilland Mosquito IX XVI XX XXV No 142 Squadron RAF at RAF Gransden Lodge with the de Havilland Mosquito XXV No 156 Squadron RAF at RAF Upwood with the Avro Lancaster I III No 162 Squadron RAF at RAF Bourn with the de Havilland Mosquito XX XXV No 163 Squadron RAF at RAF Wyton with the de Havilland Mosquito XXV No 405 Squadron RCAF at RAF Gransden Lodge with the Avro Lancaster I III No 571 Squadron RAF at RAF Oakington with the de Havilland Mosquito XVI No 582 Squadron RAF at RAF Little Staughton with the Avro Lancaster I III No 608 Squadron RAF at RAF Downham Market with the de Havilland Mosquito XX XXV No 635 Squadron RAF at RAF Downham Market with the Avro Lancaster I III No 692 Squadron RAF at RAF Graveley with the de Havilland Mosquito XVIHeadquarters editAugust 1942 RAF Wyton June 1943 Castle Hill House HuntingdonAir Officer Commanding edit1918 to 1919 edit 1918 Brigadier General John Miles Steel1941 to 1942 edit 8 September 1941 Air Commodore Francis Fogarty December 1941 Air Vice Marshal Donald Stevenson appointment not certain 1943 to 1945 edit 13 January 1943 Air Vice Marshal Don Bennett 21 May 1945 Air Vice Marshal John WhitleySee also editList of Royal Air Force groupsReferences editCitations edit a b Moyes 1976 p 347 Delve Ken 2005 Bomber Command 1939 1945 a reference to the men aircraft amp operational history Barnsley Pen amp Sword Aviation p 172 ISBN 1 84415 183 2 Moyes 1976 p 348 Royal Air Force Bomber Command No 8 Pathfinder Force Group Archived 26 March 2017 at the Wayback Machine accessed December 2011 Falconer 2012 p 308 Falconer 2012 p 309 Falconer 2012 p 310 Bibliography editBennett D C T 1988 Pathfinder A War Autobiography pbk ed Wilmslow Goodall ISBN 978 0 907579 57 1 Falconer J 2012 RAF Airfields of World War 2 UK Ian Allan Publishing ISBN 978 1 85780 349 5 Moyes P J R 1976 Bomber Squadrons of the RAF and their Aircraft London Macdonald and Jane s ISBN 978 0 354 01027 6 External links editAir of Authority A History of RAF Organisation Groups 1 9 Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title No 8 Group RAF amp oldid 1178612593, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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