John Vance (10 December 1808 – 21 September 1875) was a ConservativeMP for Dublin City from 1852 until his defeat in 1865. He was later elected unopposed for Armagh City[1] and represented the constituency from 30 June 1867 until his death.
He was married and had two daughters: Florence, who never married, and Adelaide-Sidney (died 1907), who married Sir Richard Francis Keane, 4th Baronet, and was the mother of the politician Sir John Keane, 5th Baronet.
Sir John Keane, Vance's grandson, with his family
In the 1847 General Election, Vance was unsuccessful in his attempts to be elected for Canterbury. In 1853, the Canterbury Bribery Commission found his agent guilty of bribery.[2]
The Times reports Vance's address to the electors as all that the Protestant Party could reasonably or unreasonably desire. The DublinOrange Lodges pronounce for him.[3] He is against the Maynooth Grant.[3]
On Vance's defeat, the Cork Examiner stated that Pim typified Dublin's reformation from "unlightened and unadorned Orangeism".[4]
"Rome Rule"
Vance coined the phrase "Home Rule is Rome Rule", meaning that the efforts to secure Irish Home Rule would result in a state dominated by the Roman Catholic Church. In a debate on an Irish Bill on 12 July 1871 he said: "He was speaking to the question raised by the hon. Member for Westmeath, and his own opinion was that "home rule" in Ireland would prove to be "Rome rule"."[5] The slogan was popularized by John Bright to oppose the first Irish Home Rule Bill 1886 a decade after Vance's death.
john, vance, john, vance, december, 1808, september, 1875, conservative, dublin, city, from, 1852, until, defeat, 1865, later, elected, unopposed, armagh, city, represented, constituency, from, june, 1867, until, death, vance, born, dublin, family, with, stron. John Vance 10 December 1808 21 September 1875 was a Conservative MP for Dublin City from 1852 until his defeat in 1865 He was later elected unopposed for Armagh City 1 and represented the constituency from 30 June 1867 until his death Vance was born in Dublin to a family with strong connections to County Tyrone they are believed to have emigrated from Scotland in the eighteenth century He was the eldest son of Andrew Vance of Rutland Square and Mary Falls daughter of James Falls of Aughnacloy County Tyrone His numerous siblings included Andrew Vance died 1862 Law Adviser to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Thomas Vance died 1889 a well to do merchant of Blackrock House Blackrock County Dublin Richard Dowse the eminent politician and judge was a cousin through his grandmother Mary Vance He was married and had two daughters Florence who never married and Adelaide Sidney died 1907 who married Sir Richard Francis Keane 4th Baronet and was the mother of the politician Sir John Keane 5th Baronet Sir John Keane Vance s grandson with his family In the 1847 General Election Vance was unsuccessful in his attempts to be elected for Canterbury In 1853 the Canterbury Bribery Commission found his agent guilty of bribery 2 Contents 1 Dublin City Elections 1 1 General Election 1852 2 seats 1 2 General Election 1857 2 seats 1 3 General Election 1859 2 seats 1 4 General Election 1865 2 seats 2 Rome Rule 3 References 4 External linksDublin City Elections EditGeneral Election 1852 2 seats Edit The Times reports Vance s address to the electors as all that the Protestant Party could reasonably or unreasonably desire The Dublin Orange Lodges pronounce for him 3 He is against the Maynooth Grant 3 Edward Grogan Conservative 4 531 37 82 John Vance 4 429 36 97 John Reynolds Liberal Independent Opposition 3 019 25 20 General Election 1857 2 seats Edit Edward Grogan 3 767 26 47 John Vance 3 711 26 08 Francis William Brady Liberal 3 405 23 93 John Reynolds Liberal 3 348 23 53 General Election 1859 2 seats Edit Sir Edward Grogan Bt 4 251 26 03 John Vance 4 224 25 86 Francis William Brady 3 976 24 34 Alexander McCarthy Liberal 3 881 23 76 General Election 1865 2 seats Edit Sir Benjamin Lee Guinness Bt Conservative 4 739 35 19 Jonathan Pim Liberal 4 653 34 56 John Vance 4 073 30 25 On Vance s defeat the Cork Examiner stated that Pim typified Dublin s reformation from unlightened and unadorned Orangeism 4 Rome Rule EditVance coined the phrase Home Rule is Rome Rule meaning that the efforts to secure Irish Home Rule would result in a state dominated by the Roman Catholic Church In a debate on an Irish Bill on 12 July 1871 he said He was speaking to the question raised by the hon Member for Westmeath and his own opinion was that home rule in Ireland would prove to be Rome rule 5 The slogan was popularized by John Bright to oppose the first Irish Home Rule Bill 1886 a decade after Vance s death References Edit The Times Ireland 1 Feb 1867 pg7 col E The Times Canterbury Bribery Commission 2 Aug 1853 pg5 col D a b The Times Election Intelligence 18 Jun 1852 pg8 col D The Times Ireland 28 July 1865 p 8 col F Hansard report 12 July 1871External links EditHansard 1803 2005 contributions in Parliament by John VanceParliament of the United KingdomPreceded bySir Edward GroganJohn Reynolds Member of Parliament for Dublin1852 1865 With Sir Edward Grogan Succeeded byJonathan PimBenjamin GuinnessPreceded byStearne Miller Member of Parliament for Armagh City1867 1875 Succeeded byGeorge Beresford Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title John Vance MP amp oldid 1134627739, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,
