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Joe Hall (ice hockey)

Joseph Henry "Bad Joe" Hall (May 3, 1881 – April 5, 1919) was a Canadian professional ice hockey player. Known for his aggressive playing style, Hall played senior and professional hockey from 1902 to 1919, when he died as a result of the Spanish flu pandemic.[1] He won the Stanley Cup twice with the Quebec Bulldogs and once with the Kenora Thistles, and became hospitalized while participating in the 1919 Stanley Cup Finals, which were cancelled four days before he died.

Joe Hall
Hockey Hall of Fame, 1961
Hall with the Quebec Bulldogs in 1912
Born (1881-05-03)May 3, 1881
Milwich, England, United Kingdom
Died April 5, 1919(1919-04-05) (aged 37)
Seattle, Washington, United States
Height 5 ft 10 in (178 cm)
Weight 175 lb (79 kg; 12 st 7 lb)
Position Defence / Right wing
Shot Right
Played for Montreal Canadiens
Quebec Bulldogs
Montreal Shamrocks
Montreal Wanderers
Winnipeg Maple Leafs
Montreal Hockey Club
Kenora Thistles
Brandon Wheat City
Playing career 1902–1919

Career

Hall was born in Milwich in Staffordshire, England. He moved with his family to Canada in 1884, initially going to Winnipeg, Manitoba before settling in Brandon, Manitoba. Details of Hall's life before 1902 are otherwise scarce.[2]

 
Hall with the Montreal Canadiens in 1917.

Nicknamed "Bad Joe" for his aggressiveness on the ice,[1] he played in the Manitoba Hockey Association (MHA) with the Brandon Wheat City Hockey Club, Winnipeg Rowing Club and Kenora Thistles between 1902 and 1907, and in the first fully professional league, the International Professional Hockey League (IHL), where he was a teammate of Cyclone Taylor on the Portage Lakes Hockey Club during the 1905–06 season. Between 1907 and 1909 he played for the Montreal Shamrocks, Montreal Hockey Club and Montreal Wanderers in the Eastern Canada Amateur Hockey Association (ECAHA), after having been expelled from the MHA in December 1907 for rough play.[3]

Between 1910 and 1917 Hall played in the National Hockey Association (NHA) as a member of the Quebec Bulldogs. On the Bulldogs he formed a successful defence pairing with Harry Mummery.[4] He played for the Montreal Canadiens in their first two seasons in the National Hockey League from 1917 to 1919, after having been claimed from Quebec in the Dispersal Draft in November 1917.

Hall won the Stanley Cup with the Kenora Thistles in 1907, as a spare player, for which he received a loving cup which is on display in the Hockey Hall of Fame. He won the Stanley Cup with the Quebec Bulldogs in consecutive years in 1912 and 1913.[5][6] He also challenged for the Stanley Cup in 1904 with the Winnipeg Rowing Club, losing over three games to the Ottawa Hockey Club.[7]

1919 Stanley Cup Finals

In 1919, Hall was part of the Montreal Canadiens team that made it to the 1919 Stanley Cup Finals. The Finals were interrupted, with the two clubs having won two games each, and eventually cancelled due to an outbreak of Spanish flu. The flu was contracted by several players on both the Canadiens and their opponents, the Seattle Metropolitans.[1] Hall eventually succumbed to pneumonia, related to his influenza, in a hospital in Seattle, Washington, just four days after the series was abandoned.[8]

Hall was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1961.[1]

Playing style

Hall, a right-handed shot, started out his playing career as a forward, playing predominantly as a right winger. During the 1905–06 season with the Portage Lakes Hockey Club he scored 33 goals in 20 games in the International Hockey League from the right wing position. During the second half of his career he played as a defenceman. A Brooklyn Daily Eagle article from December 20, 1931 by Harold C. Burr, interviewing former player Lester Patrick, described Hall as a "fast hard-riding forward in the old days of seven-man hockey" and as a "scoring defense man, too, and a hard blocker." The article described further how Hall was "built like a tomcat, with long arms and legs."[9]

"The 'Pegs were going down the ice and Hall had just jumped into the game when he and Tobin came together. Tobin was knocked down and as Hall circled past him he swung his stick around with the result that it crashed into Tobin's head with a sickening sound and the 'Peg player was stretched on the ice, afterwards being carried off."

Winnipeg Tribune describing Hall's attack on Charlie Tobin on December 19, 1907[10]

 
Hall in 1905–06 with the Portage Lakes Hockey Club, assigned as a right winger.

Hall had a reputation as one of the roughest and dirtiest players of his era, which earned him the moniker "Bad Joe", and he was involved in several instances of violence where he was reprimanded for attacking either opposing players or officials. On December 19, 1907, at the onset of the 1907–08 season, while playing for the Winnipeg Maple Leafs in an qualifying test game against the Winnipeg Hockey Club, Hall was involved in a contest which was dubbed a "disgraceful exhibition" by the Winnipeg Tribune, and the newspaper singled out Hall as the chief offender regarding violent displays. The game ended when the Winnipeg Hockey Club refused to continue playing, thus defaulting the game.[11] The most blatant act of violence happened when he knocked down Charlie Tobin with his stick.[10] Hall was subsequently expelled from the MHA along with Maple Leafs teammate Harry Smith.[3]

During the inaugural NHA season in 1910, while playing for the Montreal Shamrocks in a game against the Cobalt Silver Kings, Hall attacked referee (and former Montreal Wanderers player) Rod Kennedy which prompted the NHA to expel him from the league, although he was later reinstated. Three years later, during the 1912–13 NHA season, he was again involved in a violent situation with an official as he kicked referee Tom Melville on the shins and later swung his stick against him.[12]

"His philosophy was a little hard to understand, but it seemed he respected anyone who kept coming in his side, and didn't start avoiding him."

Cy Denneny on Joe Hall[4]

During the inaugural NHL season in 1917–18, while a member of the Montreal Canadiens, Hall was involved in a violent tussle with Alf Skinner, forward of the Toronto Arenas, during a game on January 28, 1918. Both players were arrested for assault and appeared in a Toronto court together on January 29 where both were released after being handed a suspended sentence.[13]

Cy Denneny, a longtime left winger with the Ottawa Senators who played directly against (right defenceman) Hall in the NHA and NHL, claimed in an interview with Bill Westwick of the Ottawa Journal in December 1945 that Hall, despite his reputation as a dirty player, "was a friendly fellow also", off the ice. Denneny claimed that Hall had told him that he did not like opposing players who tried to avoid him by shifting sides, but that he had never been dirty towards Denneny because he came in on Hall's side minding his own business.[4]

Career statistics

Regular season and playoffs

 
Hall (middle row, second from left) with the 1904 Winnipeg Rowing Club
 
Hall (front row, third from right) with the 1913 Quebec Bulldogs
Regular season Playoffs
Season Team League GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
1901–02 Brandon HC MNWHA 10 11 0 11 8
1902–03 Brandon HC MNWHA 6 9 0 9
1903–04 Winnipeg Rowing Club MHA 6 6 0 6
1903–04 Winnipeg Rowing Club St-Cup 3 1 0 1
1904–05 Brandon HC MPHL 8 11 0 11
1905–06 Portage Lakes HC IHL 20 33 0 33 98
1906–07 Brandon HC MPHL 10 15 1 16 32 2 5 0 5 5
1906–07 Kenora Thistles St-Cup
1907–08 Winnipeg Maple Leafs Exhib 3 4 4
1907–08 Montreal HC ECAHA 4 5 0 5 11
1907–08 Montreal Shamrocks ECAHA 4 4 0 4 6
1908–09 Edmonton HC APHL 1 8 0 8 6
1908–09 Montreal Wanderers ECHA 5 10 0 10 18
1908–09 Winnipeg Maple Leafs MPHL 2 2 1 3 0 2 2 1 3 9
1909–10 Montreal Shamrocks NHA 10 8 0 8 47
1909–10 Montreal Shamrocks CHA 1 7 0 7 6
1910–11 Quebec Bulldogs NHA 10 0 0 0 20
1911–12 Quebec Bulldogs NHA 18 15 0 15 30
1911–12 Quebec Bulldogs St-Cup 2 2 0 2 2
1912–13 Quebec Bulldogs NHA 17 8 0 8 78
1912–13 Quebec Bulldogs St-Cup 2 3 0 3 0
1913–14 Quebec Bulldogs NHA 19 13 4 17 61
1914–15 Quebec Bulldogs NHA 20 3 2 5 52
1915–16 Quebec Bulldogs NHA 23 1 2 3 89
1916–17 Quebec Bulldogs NHA 19 6 5 11 95
1917–18 Montreal Canadiens NHL 21 8 7 15 100 2 0 1 1 12
1918–19 Montreal Canadiens NHL 17 7 1 8 89 5 0 0 0 26
1918–19 Montreal Canadiens St-Cup 5 0 0 0 6
NHA totals 137 52 17 69 489
NHL totals 38 15 8 23 189 7 0 1 1 38
St-Cup totals 12 6 0 6

Awards and achievements

See also

References

  1. ^ a b c d Weinreb, Michael (18 March 2020). "When the Stanley Cup Final Was Canceled Because of a Pandemic". Smithsonian Magazine. Smithsonian Institution. Retrieved 19 March 2020.
  2. ^ Feige 2011, p. 82
  3. ^ a b "Maple Leaf club excluded – Harry Smith and Joe Hall expelled from the league" Montreal Gazette. Dec. 23, 1907 (pg. 12). Retrieved 2020-10-23.
  4. ^ a b c "The Sport Realm" – "Hall wanted to play here" Westwick, Bill. Ottawa Journal. Dec. 11, 1945 (pg. 16). Retrieved 2020-10-23.
  5. ^ Stanley Cup Annual Record 1912 NHL (nhl.com). Retrieved 2020-10-23.
  6. ^ Stanley Cup Annual Record 1913 NHL (nhl.com). Retrieved 2020-10-23.
  7. ^ "A struggle of giants" Winnipeg Tribune. Jan. 5, 1904 (pg. 6). Retrieved 2020-10-21.
  8. ^ Dator, James (31 July 2019). "The story of the Stanley Cup that no one won". sbnation.com. Vox Media. Retrieved 2 August 2019.
  9. ^ "'Bad Joe' Hall Sent Patrick and Gerard To Hockey Cleaners" Burr, Harold C.. Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Dec. 20, 1931. Retrieved 2020-11-17.
  10. ^ a b "Disgraceful exhibition – (Continued from Page 6.)" – "End of game" Winnipeg Tribune. Dec. 20, 1907 (pg. 11). Retrieved 2020-10-21.
  11. ^ "Disgraceful exhibition" Winnipeg Tribune. Dec. 20, 1907 (pg. 6). Retrieved 2020-10-21.
  12. ^ "Joe Hall kicked Tom Melville on shins" Ottawa Citizen. Jan. 14, 1913 (pg. 8). Retrieved 2020-10-21.
  13. ^ ""Bad Joe" Hall and Alfie Skinner got off on suspended sentence for fracas in Toronto match" Ottawa Citizen. Jan. 30, 1918 (pg. 6). Retrieved 2020-10-21.

Bibliography

  • Feige, Timothy (2011), Hockey's Greatest Tragedies: The Broken Heroes of the Fastest Game on Earth, London, United Kingdom: Arcturus Publishing, ISBN 978-1-84837-742-4

External links

  • Biographical information and career statistics from Hockey-Reference.com, or Legends of Hockey, or The Internet Hockey Database
  • at
  • Joe Hall at Find a Grave

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Joseph Henry Bad Joe Hall May 3 1881 April 5 1919 was a Canadian professional ice hockey player Known for his aggressive playing style Hall played senior and professional hockey from 1902 to 1919 when he died as a result of the Spanish flu pandemic 1 He won the Stanley Cup twice with the Quebec Bulldogs and once with the Kenora Thistles and became hospitalized while participating in the 1919 Stanley Cup Finals which were cancelled four days before he died Joe HallHockey Hall of Fame 1961Hall with the Quebec Bulldogs in 1912Born 1881 05 03 May 3 1881Milwich England United KingdomDiedApril 5 1919 1919 04 05 aged 37 Seattle Washington United StatesHeight5 ft 10 in 178 cm Weight175 lb 79 kg 12 st 7 lb PositionDefence Right wingShotRightPlayed forMontreal CanadiensQuebec BulldogsMontreal ShamrocksMontreal WanderersWinnipeg Maple LeafsMontreal Hockey ClubKenora ThistlesBrandon Wheat CityPlaying career1902 1919 Contents 1 Career 1 1 1919 Stanley Cup Finals 2 Playing style 3 Career statistics 3 1 Regular season and playoffs 4 Awards and achievements 5 See also 6 References 7 Bibliography 8 External linksCareer EditHall was born in Milwich in Staffordshire England He moved with his family to Canada in 1884 initially going to Winnipeg Manitoba before settling in Brandon Manitoba Details of Hall s life before 1902 are otherwise scarce 2 Hall with the Montreal Canadiens in 1917 Nicknamed Bad Joe for his aggressiveness on the ice 1 he played in the Manitoba Hockey Association MHA with the Brandon Wheat City Hockey Club Winnipeg Rowing Club and Kenora Thistles between 1902 and 1907 and in the first fully professional league the International Professional Hockey League IHL where he was a teammate of Cyclone Taylor on the Portage Lakes Hockey Club during the 1905 06 season Between 1907 and 1909 he played for the Montreal Shamrocks Montreal Hockey Club and Montreal Wanderers in the Eastern Canada Amateur Hockey Association ECAHA after having been expelled from the MHA in December 1907 for rough play 3 Between 1910 and 1917 Hall played in the National Hockey Association NHA as a member of the Quebec Bulldogs On the Bulldogs he formed a successful defence pairing with Harry Mummery 4 He played for the Montreal Canadiens in their first two seasons in the National Hockey League from 1917 to 1919 after having been claimed from Quebec in the Dispersal Draft in November 1917 Hall won the Stanley Cup with the Kenora Thistles in 1907 as a spare player for which he received a loving cup which is on display in the Hockey Hall of Fame He won the Stanley Cup with the Quebec Bulldogs in consecutive years in 1912 and 1913 5 6 He also challenged for the Stanley Cup in 1904 with the Winnipeg Rowing Club losing over three games to the Ottawa Hockey Club 7 1919 Stanley Cup Finals Edit Main article 1919 Stanley Cup Finals In 1919 Hall was part of the Montreal Canadiens team that made it to the 1919 Stanley Cup Finals The Finals were interrupted with the two clubs having won two games each and eventually cancelled due to an outbreak of Spanish flu The flu was contracted by several players on both the Canadiens and their opponents the Seattle Metropolitans 1 Hall eventually succumbed to pneumonia related to his influenza in a hospital in Seattle Washington just four days after the series was abandoned 8 Hall was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1961 1 Playing style EditHall a right handed shot started out his playing career as a forward playing predominantly as a right winger During the 1905 06 season with the Portage Lakes Hockey Club he scored 33 goals in 20 games in the International Hockey League from the right wing position During the second half of his career he played as a defenceman A Brooklyn Daily Eagle article from December 20 1931 by Harold C Burr interviewing former player Lester Patrick described Hall as a fast hard riding forward in the old days of seven man hockey and as a scoring defense man too and a hard blocker The article described further how Hall was built like a tomcat with long arms and legs 9 The Pegs were going down the ice and Hall had just jumped into the game when he and Tobin came together Tobin was knocked down and as Hall circled past him he swung his stick around with the result that it crashed into Tobin s head with a sickening sound and the Peg player was stretched on the ice afterwards being carried off Winnipeg Tribune describing Hall s attack on Charlie Tobin on December 19 1907 10 Hall in 1905 06 with the Portage Lakes Hockey Club assigned as a right winger Hall had a reputation as one of the roughest and dirtiest players of his era which earned him the moniker Bad Joe and he was involved in several instances of violence where he was reprimanded for attacking either opposing players or officials On December 19 1907 at the onset of the 1907 08 season while playing for the Winnipeg Maple Leafs in an qualifying test game against the Winnipeg Hockey Club Hall was involved in a contest which was dubbed a disgraceful exhibition by the Winnipeg Tribune and the newspaper singled out Hall as the chief offender regarding violent displays The game ended when the Winnipeg Hockey Club refused to continue playing thus defaulting the game 11 The most blatant act of violence happened when he knocked down Charlie Tobin with his stick 10 Hall was subsequently expelled from the MHA along with Maple Leafs teammate Harry Smith 3 During the inaugural NHA season in 1910 while playing for the Montreal Shamrocks in a game against the Cobalt Silver Kings Hall attacked referee and former Montreal Wanderers player Rod Kennedy which prompted the NHA to expel him from the league although he was later reinstated Three years later during the 1912 13 NHA season he was again involved in a violent situation with an official as he kicked referee Tom Melville on the shins and later swung his stick against him 12 His philosophy was a little hard to understand but it seemed he respected anyone who kept coming in his side and didn t start avoiding him Cy Denneny on Joe Hall 4 During the inaugural NHL season in 1917 18 while a member of the Montreal Canadiens Hall was involved in a violent tussle with Alf Skinner forward of the Toronto Arenas during a game on January 28 1918 Both players were arrested for assault and appeared in a Toronto court together on January 29 where both were released after being handed a suspended sentence 13 Cy Denneny a longtime left winger with the Ottawa Senators who played directly against right defenceman Hall in the NHA and NHL claimed in an interview with Bill Westwick of the Ottawa Journal in December 1945 that Hall despite his reputation as a dirty player was a friendly fellow also off the ice Denneny claimed that Hall had told him that he did not like opposing players who tried to avoid him by shifting sides but that he had never been dirty towards Denneny because he came in on Hall s side minding his own business 4 Career statistics EditRegular season and playoffs Edit Hall middle row second from left with the 1904 Winnipeg Rowing Club Hall front row third from right with the 1913 Quebec Bulldogs Regular season PlayoffsSeason Team League GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM1901 02 Brandon HC MNWHA 10 11 0 11 8 1902 03 Brandon HC MNWHA 6 9 0 9 1903 04 Winnipeg Rowing Club MHA 6 6 0 6 1903 04 Winnipeg Rowing Club St Cup 3 1 0 1 1904 05 Brandon HC MPHL 8 11 0 11 1905 06 Portage Lakes HC IHL 20 33 0 33 98 1906 07 Brandon HC MPHL 10 15 1 16 32 2 5 0 5 51906 07 Kenora Thistles St Cup 1907 08 Winnipeg Maple Leafs Exhib 3 4 4 1907 08 Montreal HC ECAHA 4 5 0 5 11 1907 08 Montreal Shamrocks ECAHA 4 4 0 4 6 1908 09 Edmonton HC APHL 1 8 0 8 6 1908 09 Montreal Wanderers ECHA 5 10 0 10 18 1908 09 Winnipeg Maple Leafs MPHL 2 2 1 3 0 2 2 1 3 91909 10 Montreal Shamrocks NHA 10 8 0 8 47 1909 10 Montreal Shamrocks CHA 1 7 0 7 6 1910 11 Quebec Bulldogs NHA 10 0 0 0 20 1911 12 Quebec Bulldogs NHA 18 15 0 15 30 1911 12 Quebec Bulldogs St Cup 2 2 0 2 21912 13 Quebec Bulldogs NHA 17 8 0 8 78 1912 13 Quebec Bulldogs St Cup 2 3 0 3 01913 14 Quebec Bulldogs NHA 19 13 4 17 61 1914 15 Quebec Bulldogs NHA 20 3 2 5 52 1915 16 Quebec Bulldogs NHA 23 1 2 3 89 1916 17 Quebec Bulldogs NHA 19 6 5 11 95 1917 18 Montreal Canadiens NHL 21 8 7 15 100 2 0 1 1 121918 19 Montreal Canadiens NHL 17 7 1 8 89 5 0 0 0 261918 19 Montreal Canadiens St Cup 5 0 0 0 6NHA totals 137 52 17 69 489 NHL totals 38 15 8 23 189 7 0 1 1 38St Cup totals 12 6 0 6 Awards and achievements EditInternational Professional Hockey League First Team All Star 1906 Stanley Cup Championships 1907 with Kenora 1912 and 1913 with Quebec Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1961 Honoured Member of the Manitoba Hockey Hall of FameSee also EditList of ice hockey players who died during their playing careers List of National Hockey League players born in the United KingdomReferences Edit a b c d Weinreb Michael 18 March 2020 When the Stanley Cup Final Was Canceled Because of a Pandemic Smithsonian Magazine Smithsonian Institution Retrieved 19 March 2020 Feige 2011 p 82 a b Maple Leaf club excluded Harry Smith and Joe Hall expelled from the league Montreal Gazette Dec 23 1907 pg 12 Retrieved 2020 10 23 a b c The Sport Realm Hall wanted to play here Westwick Bill Ottawa Journal Dec 11 1945 pg 16 Retrieved 2020 10 23 Stanley Cup Annual Record 1912 NHL nhl com Retrieved 2020 10 23 Stanley Cup Annual Record 1913 NHL nhl com Retrieved 2020 10 23 A struggle of giants Winnipeg Tribune Jan 5 1904 pg 6 Retrieved 2020 10 21 Dator James 31 July 2019 The story of the Stanley Cup that no one won sbnation com Vox Media Retrieved 2 August 2019 Bad Joe Hall Sent Patrick and Gerard To Hockey Cleaners Burr Harold C Brooklyn Daily Eagle Dec 20 1931 Retrieved 2020 11 17 a b Disgraceful exhibition Continued from Page 6 End of game Winnipeg Tribune Dec 20 1907 pg 11 Retrieved 2020 10 21 Disgraceful exhibition Winnipeg Tribune Dec 20 1907 pg 6 Retrieved 2020 10 21 Joe Hall kicked Tom Melville on shins Ottawa Citizen Jan 14 1913 pg 8 Retrieved 2020 10 21 Bad Joe Hall and Alfie Skinner got off on suspended sentence for fracas in Toronto match Ottawa Citizen Jan 30 1918 pg 6 Retrieved 2020 10 21 Bibliography EditFeige Timothy 2011 Hockey s Greatest Tragedies The Broken Heroes of the Fastest Game on Earth London United Kingdom Arcturus Publishing ISBN 978 1 84837 742 4External links Edit Wikimedia Commons has media related to Joe Hall Biographical information and career statistics from Hockey Reference com or Legends of Hockey or The Internet Hockey Database Joe Hall s biography at Manitoba Hockey Hall of Fame Joe Hall at Find a Grave Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Joe Hall ice hockey amp oldid 1122568433, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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