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I'm My Own Grandpa

"I'm My Own Grandpa" (sometimes rendered as "I'm My Own Grandpaw") is a novelty song written by Dwight Latham and Moe Jaffe, performed by Lonzo and Oscar in 1947, about a man who, through an unlikely (but legal) combination of marriages, becomes stepfather to his own stepmother—by tacitly dropping the "step-" modifiers, he becomes his own grandfather.

"I'm My Own Grandpa"
Song by Lonzo and Oscar
LanguageEnglish
Released1947
GenreNovelty
Songwriter(s)Dwight Latham and Moe Jaffe

In the 1930s, Latham had a group, the Jesters, on network radio; their specialties were bits of spoken humor and novelty songs. While reading a book of Mark Twain anecdotes, he once found a paragraph in which Twain proved it would be possible for a man to become his own grandfather. ("Very Closely Related" appears on page 87 of Wit and Humor of the Age,[1] which was co-authored by Mark Twain in 1883.) In 1947, Latham and Jaffe expanded the idea into a song, which became a hit for Lonzo and Oscar.

Genealogy edit

 
Visualisation of the family tree in '"I'm My Own Grandpa", with 1 and 2 denoting the marriages and subsequent progeny

In the song, the narrator marries a widow with an adult daughter. Subsequently, his father marries the widow's daughter. This creates a comic tangle of relationships by a mixture of blood and marriage; for example, the narrator's father is now also his stepson-in-law. The situation is complicated further when both couples have children.

Although the song continues to mention that both the narrator's wife and stepdaughter had children by the narrator and his father, respectively, the narrator actually becomes "his own grandpa" once his father marries the woman's daughter:

  • The narrator marries the older woman.
    • This results in the woman's daughter becoming his stepdaughter.
  • Subsequently, the narrator's father marries the older woman's daughter.
    • The woman's daughter, being the new wife of the narrator's father, is now both his stepdaughter and his stepmother. Concurrently, the narrator's father, being his stepdaughter's husband, is also his own stepson-in-law.
      • The narrator's wife, being the mother of his stepmother, is both the narrator's spouse and his step-grandmother.
        • The husband of the narrator's wife would then be the narrator's step-grandfather. Since the narrator is that person, he has managed to become his own (step-step)grandfather. The "step-step" concept applies because the step-father of one's step-mother would be one's step-step-grandfather, making a "double step" event possible.

The song continues with

  • The narrator and his wife having a son.
    • The narrator's son is the half-brother of his stepdaughter, as the narrator's wife is the mother of both.
      • Since his stepdaughter is also his stepmother, then the narrator's son is also his own (step-half-)uncle because he is the (half-)brother of his (step-)mother.
        • The narrator's son is therefore a (half-)brother-in-law to the narrator's father, because the son is the (half-)brother of the father's wife.
  • The narrator's father and his wife (the narrator's stepdaughter) then had a son of their own.
    • The child is the narrator's (step-) grandson because he is the son of his (step-)daughter.
      • The son is the (half-)brother of the narrator because they share a father.

Real-life incidents edit

According to a 2007 article, the song was inspired by an anecdote that has been published periodically by newspapers for well over 150 years.[2] The earliest citation was from the Republican Chronicle of Ithaca, New York on April 24, 1822, and that was copied from the London Literary Gazette:

A proof that a man may be his own Grandfather.—There was a widow and her daughter-in-law, and a man and his son. The widow married the son, and the daughter the old man; the widow was, therefore, mother to her husband's father, consequently grandmother to her own husband. They had a son, to whom she was great-grandmother; now, as the son of a great-grandmother must be either a grandfather or great-uncle, this boy was therefore his own grandfather. N. B. This was actually the case with a boy at a school in Norwich.[3]

An 1884 book, The World of Wonders, attributed the original "remarkable genealogical curiosity" to Hood's Magazine.[4]

In 1989, The Rolling Stones bassist Bill Wyman married Mandy Smith; she was 18 and he 52. In 1993, Wyman's 30-year-old son from his first marriage, Stephen, married Smith's mother, Patsy, who was then aged 46.[5] Had Bill and Mandy not divorced by then, Stephen would have been his own step-step-grandfather.

Cover versions edit

The cover version by Lonzo and Oscar was recorded in 1947, the same year that Latham and Jaffe released The Jesters original. A version by Guy Lombardo and The Guy Lombardo Trio became a hit in 1948. The song was also recorded by Phil Harris (as "He's His Own Grandpa"), Jo Stafford (as "I'm My Own Grandmaw"), singer/bandleader Tony Pastor, Kimball Coburn,[6] Homer and Jethro, and "Jon & Alun" (Jon Mark and Alun Davies) on their record Relax Your Mind (1963).

A 1976 episode of The Muppet Show includes a skit in which the song is performed by the all-Muppet Gogolala Jubilee Jugband. Ray Stevens recorded a version for his 1987 album Crackin' Up. In the movie The Stupids, Stanley Stupid, portrayed by Tom Arnold, sings "I'm My Own Grandpa" while on a talk show about strange families. Willie Nelson performed the song on his 2001 album The Rainbow Connection. This song was also performed by Grandpa Jones, who sang it both at the Grand Ole Opry and on the TV show Hee Haw. It was also later recorded on the album Home is Where the Heart Is by David Grisman and on Michael Cooney's album of songs for children. Folk singer Steve Goodman included it in his live shows, and recorded it on his album Somebody Else's Troubles. This song has also been recorded by Australian Comedy Country artist Chad Morgan and appears on the album Sheilas, Drongos, Dills and Other Geezers and recorded by Australian Country artist, Melinda Schneider with the Schneider Sisters. It has also been covered by the Asylum Street Spankers and released on the 2002 Bloodshot Records compilation The Bottle Let Me Down. Larry Wilder of Portland, OR, performs the tune in his Songs From the Heart of the People show. The humorous folk singer, Anthony John Clarke, frequently covers it in his gigs and has recorded it on his 2004 album Just Bring Yourself. The song also frequently appears as a Barbershop Quartet arrangement in video-file-sharing websites such as YouTube. The Bar-J Wranglers of Jackson, Wyoming frequently perform the song in their live chuckwagon dinner show, and their studio recording was included on the 1998 album Headin' for the Home Corral.[7]

Logic and reasoning edit

Professor Philip Johnson-Laird used the song to illustrate issues in formal logic as contrasted with psychology of reasoning, noting that the transitive property of identity relationships expressed in natural language was highly sensitive to variations in grammar, while reasoning by models, such as the one constructed in the song, avoided this sensitivity.[8]

The situation is included in a set of problems attributed to Alcuin of York, and also in the final story in Baital Pachisi; the question asks to describe the relationship of the children to each other. Alcuin's solution is that the children are simultaneously uncle and nephew to each other; he does not draw attention to the relationships of the other characters.[citation needed]

In the Baital Pachisi this is the only riddle that the wise King Vikrama cannot answer.

References edit

  1. ^ Wit and Humor of the Age. Star Publishing Company. 1883. p. 87.
  2. ^ James Plant (August 27, 2007). ""I'm My Own Grandpa" – Where Did the Tale Begin?". GenealogyMagazine.com. Retrieved 2013-05-27.
  3. ^ Christopher Dunham (September 22, 2006). "Someone Really Was His Own Grandpa". The Genealogue. Retrieved 2013-05-27.
  4. ^ The World of Wonders. Cassell and Company. 1884. p. 6.
  5. ^ "The Quiet One review – controversial and evasive Bill Wyman documentary". The Guardian. 3 May 2019. Retrieved 19 January 2021.
  6. ^ RCA 47-7592
  7. ^ "Headin' for the Home Corral".
  8. ^ Philip Johnson-Laird (2006). How We Reason. Oxford University Press. pp. 119–135. ISBN 9780198569763.

External links edit

  • DeadDisc list of cover versions
  • I'm My Own Grandpaw Lyrics with Java illustration
  • Public domain recording by the Jesters at Internet Archive.

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I m My Own Grandpa sometimes rendered as I m My Own Grandpaw is a novelty song written by Dwight Latham and Moe Jaffe performed by Lonzo and Oscar in 1947 about a man who through an unlikely but legal combination of marriages becomes stepfather to his own stepmother by tacitly dropping the step modifiers he becomes his own grandfather I m My Own Grandpa Song by Lonzo and OscarLanguageEnglishReleased1947GenreNoveltySongwriter s Dwight Latham and Moe Jaffe In the 1930s Latham had a group the Jesters on network radio their specialties were bits of spoken humor and novelty songs While reading a book of Mark Twain anecdotes he once found a paragraph in which Twain proved it would be possible for a man to become his own grandfather Very Closely Related appears on page 87 of Wit and Humor of the Age 1 which was co authored by Mark Twain in 1883 In 1947 Latham and Jaffe expanded the idea into a song which became a hit for Lonzo and Oscar Contents 1 Genealogy 2 Real life incidents 3 Cover versions 4 Logic and reasoning 5 References 6 External linksGenealogy edit nbsp Visualisation of the family tree in I m My Own Grandpa with 1 and 2 denoting the marriages and subsequent progeny In the song the narrator marries a widow with an adult daughter Subsequently his father marries the widow s daughter This creates a comic tangle of relationships by a mixture of blood and marriage for example the narrator s father is now also his stepson in law The situation is complicated further when both couples have children Although the song continues to mention that both the narrator s wife and stepdaughter had children by the narrator and his father respectively the narrator actually becomes his own grandpa once his father marries the woman s daughter The narrator marries the older woman This results in the woman s daughter becoming his stepdaughter Subsequently the narrator s father marries the older woman s daughter The woman s daughter being the new wife of the narrator s father is now both his stepdaughter and his stepmother Concurrently the narrator s father being his stepdaughter s husband is also his own stepson in law The narrator s wife being the mother of his stepmother is both the narrator s spouse and his step grandmother The husband of the narrator s wife would then be the narrator s step grandfather Since the narrator is that person he has managed to become his own step step grandfather The step step concept applies because the step father of one s step mother would be one s step step grandfather making a double step event possible The song continues with The narrator and his wife having a son The narrator s son is the half brother of his stepdaughter as the narrator s wife is the mother of both Since his stepdaughter is also his stepmother then the narrator s son is also his own step half uncle because he is the half brother of his step mother The narrator s son is therefore a half brother in law to the narrator s father because the son is the half brother of the father s wife The narrator s father and his wife the narrator s stepdaughter then had a son of their own The child is the narrator s step grandson because he is the son of his step daughter The son is the half brother of the narrator because they share a father Real life incidents editAccording to a 2007 article the song was inspired by an anecdote that has been published periodically by newspapers for well over 150 years 2 The earliest citation was from the Republican Chronicle of Ithaca New York on April 24 1822 and that was copied from the London Literary Gazette A proof that a man may be his own Grandfather There was a widow and her daughter in law and a man and his son The widow married the son and the daughter the old man the widow was therefore mother to her husband s father consequently grandmother to her own husband They had a son to whom she was great grandmother now as the son of a great grandmother must be either a grandfather or great uncle this boy was therefore his own grandfather N B This was actually the case with a boy at a school in Norwich 3 An 1884 book The World of Wonders attributed the original remarkable genealogical curiosity to Hood s Magazine 4 In 1989 The Rolling Stones bassist Bill Wyman married Mandy Smith she was 18 and he 52 In 1993 Wyman s 30 year old son from his first marriage Stephen married Smith s mother Patsy who was then aged 46 5 Had Bill and Mandy not divorced by then Stephen would have been his own step step grandfather Cover versions editThis section needs additional citations for verification Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources in this section Unsourced material may be challenged and removed Find sources I m My Own Grandpa news newspapers books scholar JSTOR March 2023 Learn how and when to remove this message The cover version by Lonzo and Oscar was recorded in 1947 the same year that Latham and Jaffe released The Jesters original A version by Guy Lombardo and The Guy Lombardo Trio became a hit in 1948 The song was also recorded by Phil Harris as He s His Own Grandpa Jo Stafford as I m My Own Grandmaw singer bandleader Tony Pastor Kimball Coburn 6 Homer and Jethro and Jon amp Alun Jon Mark and Alun Davies on their record Relax Your Mind 1963 A 1976 episode of The Muppet Show includes a skit in which the song is performed by the all Muppet Gogolala Jubilee Jugband Ray Stevens recorded a version for his 1987 album Crackin Up In the movie The Stupids Stanley Stupid portrayed by Tom Arnold sings I m My Own Grandpa while on a talk show about strange families Willie Nelson performed the song on his 2001 album The Rainbow Connection This song was also performed by Grandpa Jones who sang it both at the Grand Ole Opry and on the TV show Hee Haw It was also later recorded on the album Home is Where the Heart Is by David Grisman and on Michael Cooney s album of songs for children Folk singer Steve Goodman included it in his live shows and recorded it on his album Somebody Else s Troubles This song has also been recorded by Australian Comedy Country artist Chad Morgan and appears on the album Sheilas Drongos Dills and Other Geezers and recorded by Australian Country artist Melinda Schneider with the Schneider Sisters It has also been covered by the Asylum Street Spankers and released on the 2002 Bloodshot Records compilation The Bottle Let Me Down Larry Wilder of Portland OR performs the tune in his Songs From the Heart of the People show The humorous folk singer Anthony John Clarke frequently covers it in his gigs and has recorded it on his 2004 album Just Bring Yourself The song also frequently appears as a Barbershop Quartet arrangement in video file sharing websites such as YouTube The Bar J Wranglers of Jackson Wyoming frequently perform the song in their live chuckwagon dinner show and their studio recording was included on the 1998 album Headin for the Home Corral 7 Logic and reasoning editSee also Causal loop Professor Philip Johnson Laird used the song to illustrate issues in formal logic as contrasted with psychology of reasoning noting that the transitive property of identity relationships expressed in natural language was highly sensitive to variations in grammar while reasoning by models such as the one constructed in the song avoided this sensitivity 8 The situation is included in a set of problems attributed to Alcuin of York and also in the final story in Baital Pachisi the question asks to describe the relationship of the children to each other Alcuin s solution is that the children are simultaneously uncle and nephew to each other he does not draw attention to the relationships of the other characters citation needed In the Baital Pachisi this is the only riddle that the wise King Vikrama cannot answer References edit Wit and Humor of the Age Star Publishing Company 1883 p 87 James Plant August 27 2007 I m My Own Grandpa Where Did the Tale Begin GenealogyMagazine com Retrieved 2013 05 27 Christopher Dunham September 22 2006 Someone Really Was His Own Grandpa The Genealogue Retrieved 2013 05 27 The World of Wonders Cassell and Company 1884 p 6 The Quiet One review controversial and evasive Bill Wyman documentary The Guardian 3 May 2019 Retrieved 19 January 2021 RCA 47 7592 Headin for the Home Corral Philip Johnson Laird 2006 How We Reason Oxford University Press pp 119 135 ISBN 9780198569763 External links editDeadDisc list of cover versions I m My Own Grandpaw Lyrics with Java illustration Public domain recording by the Jesters at Internet Archive Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title I 27m My Own Grandpa amp oldid 1219545190, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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