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HMS Veteran (D72)

HMS Veteran was an Admiralty modified W-class destroyer built for the Royal Navy. She was ordered in April 1918 from John Brown & Company under the 14th War Program. She was the third Royal Navy ship to carry the name.[1]

HMS Veteran in King George V Dock, London in 1942
History
NameHMS Veteran
OrderedApril 1918
BuilderJohn Brown & Company
Laid down30 August 1918
Launched26 August 1919
Commissioned13 November 1919
Identification
Motto
  • Laudator temporis acti
  • Proud of former deeds
Honours and
awards
  • Martinique 1794, Camperdown 1797
  • Copenhagen 1801, Atlantic 1939–42
  • Norway 1940, North Sea 1940
FateSunk by U-404 on 26 September 1942
BadgeOn a Field Green, an old warrior’s head, helmeted Proper.
General characteristics
Class and typeAdmiralty modified W-class destroyer
Displacement
  • 1,140 tons standard
  • 1,550 tons full load
Length312 ft o/a, 300 ft p/p
Beam29.5 feet (9.0 m)
Draught9 feet (2.7 m), 11 feet 7.5 inches (3.543 m) under full load
PropulsionYarrow type Water-tube boilers, Brown-Curtis geared steam turbines, 2 shafts, 27,000 shp
Speed34 kn
Range
  • 320-370 tons oil
  • 3,500 nmi at 15 kn,
  • 900 nmi at 34 kn
Complement127
Armament
General characteristics LRE Conversion
Propulsion
Speed24.5 kn
Range
  • 320-370 tons oil
  • 3,500 nmi at 15 kn
  • 900 nmi at 32 kn
Complement134
Sensors and
processing systems
  • Type 271 Target Indication Radar
  • Type 286P Air Warning Radar
Electronic warfare
& decoys
Medium Frequency Direction Finding Outfit FM7 fitted Feb, 1941
Armament
  • 2 × BL 4.7 in (120mm) Mk.I L/45 guns
  • 1 × QF 12 pounder 12 cwt naval gun
  • 2 × QF 2 pdr Mk.II "pom-pom" (40 mm L/39)
  • 3 × 21-inch torpedo tubes (one triple mount)
  • 2 × depth charge racks
  • Hedgehog anti-submarine mortar (replace ‘A’ turret)
Service record
Part of:
  • 3rd Destroyer Flotilla - 1920
  • 18th Destroyer Flotilla – Dec 1939
Operations:
Victories: U-207 – 11 Sep 1941

Construction

HMS Veteran's keel was laid on 30 August 1918 at the James Brown & Company Shipyard in Clydebank, Scotland. She was launched on 26 April 1919. She was 312 feet overall in length with a beam of 29.5 feet. Her mean draught was 9 feet, and would reach 11.25 feet under full load. She had a displacement of 1,140 tons standard and up to 1,550 full load.[2]

She was propelled by three Yarrow type water tube boilers powering Brown-Curtis geared steam turbines developing 27,000 shp driving twin propellers for a maximum designed speed of 34 knots. She was oil-fired and had a bunkerage of 320 to 350 tons. This gave a range of between 3500 nautical miles at 15 knots to 900 nautical miles at 32 knots.[2]

She shipped four BL 4.7 in Mk.I guns, mount P Mk.I naval guns in four single centre-line mounts. The turrets were disposed as two forward and two aft in super imposed firing positions. She also carried two QF 2 pdr Mk.II "pom-pom" (40 mm L/39) mounted abeam between funnels. Abaft of the 2nd funnel, she carried six 21-inch torpedo tubes in two triple mounts on the centre-line.[2]

Inter-war years

HMS Veteran was commissioned into the Royal Navy on 13 November 1919 with the pennant number D72. After commissioning she was assigned to the 3rd Destroyer Flotilla of the Atlantic Fleet. The Flotilla was transferred to the Mediterranean Fleet in 1923, then in 1926 to China Station. She was involved in the Nanking Incident in March 1927. In early 1930s after a refit, she was placed in reserve as more modern destroyers came on line.[1]

 
HMS Veteran on the China Station in July 1927

World War II

In 1939, HMS Veteran was in dockyard hands for a major refit. As with most elderly destroyers allocated to escort duties, the after bank of torpedo tubes was removed and replaced with a single QF 12 pounder 12 cwt naval gun. They also landed 'Y' gun to receive additional space for depth charge gear and stowage. She was recommissioned into service in November 1939 commanded by Lieut. Cdr J E Broome, a veteran of First World War.[1]

In December upon completion of post refit trials, HMS Veteran joined the 18th Destroyer Flotilla based at Plymouth in the Western Approaches Command for Channel escort and anti-submarine patrols. In February she collided with HMS H46 and in March with the SS Horn Shell, which required HMS Veteran to put in for repairs.[1]

Following an application by Lt Cdr Broome HMS Veteran was made a life member of the Company of Veteran Motors in early 1940. The ship was presented with a king size Veteran Motorist insignia that was subsequently mounted on the front of the ship's bridge. Members of CVM also supplied the crew with welfare supplies including knitted clothing.[3]

April saw HMS Veteran transferred to Scapa Flow after the German invasion of Norway. She escorted convoys for the Norwegian Campaign, including the withdrawal until damaged in a collision with the mercantile Ngkoa on 29 May. At this time her pennant number was changed to I72 for visual signalling purposes.[1]

Upon release from the Home Fleet HMS Veteran was transferred to Harwich for convoy defence in the North Sea. From July to September employed in anti-invasion patrols and convoy defence. During a patrol off Ostend with HMS Wild Swan and HMS Malcolm they sank several invasion barges. HMS Veteran was damaged by an acoustic mine and required repair. At this time she had her weaponry upgraded with the fitting of 20mm Oerlikon cannons for short range anti-air defence.[1]

At the end of September, HMS Veteran was transferred to the Western Approaches Command and based out of Londonderry for Atlantic convoy defence. She escorted several convoys outbound and inbound until involved in a collision with HMS Verity in January 1941.[1]

February saw HMS Veteran at Barrow-in Furness undergoing repair and refit. A Medium Frequency Direction Finder Outfit FM7 was fitted for navigation but was not useful against U-boats as they used a higher frequency for radio communications. Her refit and trials complete on 13 March. She resumed her duties in Atlantic convoy defence out of Londonderry.[1]

Later that month, on 20 March, she participated in the search for the German warships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau[1] In September 1941, she dropped depth charges on German U-boat U-207 at position 63°59'N, 34°48'W,[4] which had attacked convoy SC 42. U-207 was sunk, and HMS Veteran shared credit of her sinking with HMS Leamington. This was given after a post-war analysis of the attack.[5]

In January 1942, she underwent conversion to a short range escort (SRE) at a commercial shipyard in London. To augment the earlier changes, the replacement of the after bank of torpedo tubes with a single QF 12-pounder 12 cwt naval gun and the landing of 'Y' gun for additional space for depth charge gear and stowage, the 2 pdr "pompoms" were replaced with two Oerlikon 20 mm cannons amidships and the 'A' gun was replaced by a Hedgehog anti-submarine mortar. A Type 271 centimetric target indication radar was added on the bridge and a Type 286M air warning radar was installed on the main mast.[1]

By March with her workups following conversion complete she was detached for service off the East Coast of the US and Canada. From May to August she was deployed for convoy defence between US and Canadian Ports to Newfoundland.[1]

In September she was nominated for a special convoy RB1. On the 16th she sailed with HMS Vanoc.[1]

Loss

On 23 September 1942, Convoy RB1 was sighted by U-380 and U-boat Group Blitz was ordered to attack. Groups Vorwarts and Pfiel were also directed against RB1. On the 25th the SS Boston and SS New York were sunk and the convoy scattered. On 26 September the convoy was ordered to reform and HMS Veteran came across the survivors of the SS New York. While she was picking up some of the survivors HMS Veteran was hit by two torpedoes from U-404. HMS Veteran sank quickly in position 54.51N 23.04W south of Iceland after an explosion. All hands, as well as a number of survivors from the SS New York were lost.[6] Other survivors from SS New York were later rescued.[1]

Image gallery

 
Founder and Secretary of the Company of Veteran Motorists, Dick Wood, with the specially commissioned king-size CVM badge that was displayed on HMS Veteran.

Notes

  1. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m "Service Histories of Royal Navy Warships in World War 2".
  2. ^ a b c . Archived from the original on 16 February 2012.
  3. ^ "HMS Veteran". Good Motoring Magazine: 13. February 1940.
  4. ^ "U-Boat.net".
  5. ^ Blair, Clay (1996). Hitler's U-Boat War The Hunters 1939–1942. New York: Random House Inc. p. 363. ISBN 0-394-58839-8.
  6. ^ Blair, Clay (1996). Hitler's U-Boat War The Hunted 1942–1945. New York: Random House Inc. p. 36. ISBN 0-679-45742-9.

Bibliography

  • Campbell, John (1985). Naval Weapons of World War II. Annapolis, Maryland: Naval Institute Press. ISBN 0-87021-459-4.
  • Chesneau, Roger, ed. (1980). Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships 1922–1946. Greenwich, UK: Conway Maritime Press. ISBN 0-85177-146-7.
  • Colledge, J. J.; Warlow, Ben (2006) [1969]. Ships of the Royal Navy: The Complete Record of all Fighting Ships of the Royal Navy (Rev. ed.). London: Chatham Publishing. ISBN 978-1-86176-281-8.
  • Cocker, Maurice (1981). Destroyers of the Royal Navy, 1893–1981. Ian Allan. ISBN 0-7110-1075-7.
  • Friedman, Norman (2009). British Destroyers From Earliest Days to the Second World War. Annapolis, Maryland: Naval Institute Press. ISBN 978-1-59114-081-8.
  • Gardiner, Robert & Gray, Randal, eds. (1985). Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships 1906–1921. Annapolis, Maryland: Naval Institute Press. ISBN 0-85177-245-5.
  • Lenton, H. T. (1998). British & Empire Warships of the Second World War. Annapolis, Maryland: Naval Institute Press. ISBN 1-55750-048-7.
  • March, Edgar J. (1966). British Destroyers: A History of Development, 1892–1953; Drawn by Admiralty Permission From Official Records & Returns, Ships' Covers & Building Plans. London: Seeley Service. OCLC 164893555.
  • Preston, Antony (1971). 'V & W' Class Destroyers 1917–1945. London: Macdonald. OCLC 464542895.
  • Raven, Alan & Roberts, John (1979). 'V' and 'W' Class Destroyers. Man o'War. Vol. 2. London: Arms & Armour. ISBN 0-85368-233-X.
  • Rohwer, Jürgen (2005). Chronology of the War at Sea 1939–1945: The Naval History of World War Two (Third Revised ed.). Annapolis, Maryland: Naval Institute Press. ISBN 1-59114-119-2.
  • Whinney, Bob (2000). The U-boat Peril: A Fight for Survival. Cassell. ISBN 0-304-35132-6.
  • Whitley, M. J. (1988). Destroyers of World War 2. Annapolis, Maryland: Naval Institute Press. ISBN 0-87021-326-1.
  • Winser, John de D. (1999). B.E.F. Ships Before, At and After Dunkirk. Gravesend, Kent: World Ship Society. ISBN 0-905617-91-6.

External links

  • A service history of HMS Veteran was compiled by the late Lieutenant Commander Geoffry Mason and can be found at the Naval History Web Site
  • U-Boat.net

Coordinates: 54°34′N 25°44′W / 54.567°N 25.733°W / 54.567; -25.733

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For other ships with the same name see HMS Veteran HMS Veteran was an Admiralty modified W class destroyer built for the Royal Navy She was ordered in April 1918 from John Brown amp Company under the 14th War Program She was the third Royal Navy ship to carry the name 1 HMS Veteran in King George V Dock London in 1942HistoryNameHMS VeteranOrderedApril 1918BuilderJohn Brown amp CompanyLaid down30 August 1918Launched26 August 1919Commissioned13 November 1919IdentificationPennant number D72 Nov 1919 I72 May 1940MottoLaudator temporis acti Proud of former deedsHonours andawardsMartinique 1794 Camperdown 1797 Copenhagen 1801 Atlantic 1939 42 Norway 1940 North Sea 1940FateSunk by U 404 on 26 September 1942BadgeOn a Field Green an old warrior s head helmeted Proper General characteristicsClass and typeAdmiralty modified W class destroyerDisplacement1 140 tons standard 1 550 tons full loadLength312 ft o a 300 ft p pBeam29 5 feet 9 0 m Draught9 feet 2 7 m 11 feet 7 5 inches 3 543 m under full loadPropulsionYarrow type Water tube boilers Brown Curtis geared steam turbines 2 shafts 27 000 shpSpeed34 knRange320 370 tons oil 3 500 nmi at 15 kn 900 nmi at 34 knComplement127ArmamentAs built 1920 4 BL 4 7 in 120 mm Mk I guns mount P Mk I 2 QF 2 pdr Mk II pom pom 40 mm L 39 6 21 inch torpedo tubesGeneral characteristics LRE ConversionPropulsion2 Yarrow type water tube boilers Parsons geared steam turbines driving 2 shafts 18 000 shpSpeed24 5 knRange320 370 tons oil 3 500 nmi at 15 kn 900 nmi at 32 knComplement134Sensors and processing systemsType 271 Target Indication Radar Type 286P Air Warning RadarElectronic warfare amp decoysMedium Frequency Direction Finding Outfit FM7 fitted Feb 1941Armament2 BL 4 7 in 120mm Mk I L 45 guns 1 QF 12 pounder 12 cwt naval gun 2 QF 2 pdr Mk II pom pom 40 mm L 39 3 21 inch torpedo tubes one triple mount 2 depth charge racks Hedgehog anti submarine mortar replace A turret Service recordPart of 3rd Destroyer Flotilla 1920 18th Destroyer Flotilla Dec 1939Operations Nanking Incident 1927 World War II 1939 to 1945Victories U 207 11 Sep 1941 Contents 1 Construction 2 Inter war years 3 World War II 3 1 Loss 4 Image gallery 5 Notes 6 Bibliography 7 External linksConstruction EditHMS Veteran s keel was laid on 30 August 1918 at the James Brown amp Company Shipyard in Clydebank Scotland She was launched on 26 April 1919 She was 312 feet overall in length with a beam of 29 5 feet Her mean draught was 9 feet and would reach 11 25 feet under full load She had a displacement of 1 140 tons standard and up to 1 550 full load 2 She was propelled by three Yarrow type water tube boilers powering Brown Curtis geared steam turbines developing 27 000 shp driving twin propellers for a maximum designed speed of 34 knots She was oil fired and had a bunkerage of 320 to 350 tons This gave a range of between 3500 nautical miles at 15 knots to 900 nautical miles at 32 knots 2 She shipped four BL 4 7 in Mk I guns mount P Mk I naval guns in four single centre line mounts The turrets were disposed as two forward and two aft in super imposed firing positions She also carried two QF 2 pdr Mk II pom pom 40 mm L 39 mounted abeam between funnels Abaft of the 2nd funnel she carried six 21 inch torpedo tubes in two triple mounts on the centre line 2 Inter war years EditHMS Veteran was commissioned into the Royal Navy on 13 November 1919 with the pennant number D72 After commissioning she was assigned to the 3rd Destroyer Flotilla of the Atlantic Fleet The Flotilla was transferred to the Mediterranean Fleet in 1923 then in 1926 to China Station She was involved in the Nanking Incident in March 1927 In early 1930s after a refit she was placed in reserve as more modern destroyers came on line 1 HMS Veteran on the China Station in July 1927World War II EditIn 1939 HMS Veteran was in dockyard hands for a major refit As with most elderly destroyers allocated to escort duties the after bank of torpedo tubes was removed and replaced with a single QF 12 pounder 12 cwt naval gun They also landed Y gun to receive additional space for depth charge gear and stowage She was recommissioned into service in November 1939 commanded by Lieut Cdr J E Broome a veteran of First World War 1 In December upon completion of post refit trials HMS Veteran joined the 18th Destroyer Flotilla based at Plymouth in the Western Approaches Command for Channel escort and anti submarine patrols In February she collided with HMS H46 and in March with the SS Horn Shell which required HMS Veteran to put in for repairs 1 Following an application by Lt Cdr Broome HMS Veteran was made a life member of the Company of Veteran Motors in early 1940 The ship was presented with a king size Veteran Motorist insignia that was subsequently mounted on the front of the ship s bridge Members of CVM also supplied the crew with welfare supplies including knitted clothing 3 April saw HMS Veteran transferred to Scapa Flow after the German invasion of Norway She escorted convoys for the Norwegian Campaign including the withdrawal until damaged in a collision with the mercantile Ngkoa on 29 May At this time her pennant number was changed to I72 for visual signalling purposes 1 Upon release from the Home Fleet HMS Veteran was transferred to Harwich for convoy defence in the North Sea From July to September employed in anti invasion patrols and convoy defence During a patrol off Ostend with HMS Wild Swan and HMS Malcolm they sank several invasion barges HMS Veteran was damaged by an acoustic mine and required repair At this time she had her weaponry upgraded with the fitting of 20mm Oerlikon cannons for short range anti air defence 1 At the end of September HMS Veteran was transferred to the Western Approaches Command and based out of Londonderry for Atlantic convoy defence She escorted several convoys outbound and inbound until involved in a collision with HMS Verity in January 1941 1 February saw HMS Veteran at Barrow in Furness undergoing repair and refit A Medium Frequency Direction Finder Outfit FM7 was fitted for navigation but was not useful against U boats as they used a higher frequency for radio communications Her refit and trials complete on 13 March She resumed her duties in Atlantic convoy defence out of Londonderry 1 Later that month on 20 March she participated in the search for the German warships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau 1 In September 1941 she dropped depth charges on German U boat U 207 at position 63 59 N 34 48 W 4 which had attacked convoy SC 42 U 207 was sunk and HMS Veteran shared credit of her sinking with HMS Leamington This was given after a post war analysis of the attack 5 In January 1942 she underwent conversion to a short range escort SRE at a commercial shipyard in London To augment the earlier changes the replacement of the after bank of torpedo tubes with a single QF 12 pounder 12 cwt naval gun and the landing of Y gun for additional space for depth charge gear and stowage the 2 pdr pompoms were replaced with two Oerlikon 20 mm cannons amidships and the A gun was replaced by a Hedgehog anti submarine mortar A Type 271 centimetric target indication radar was added on the bridge and a Type 286M air warning radar was installed on the main mast 1 By March with her workups following conversion complete she was detached for service off the East Coast of the US and Canada From May to August she was deployed for convoy defence between US and Canadian Ports to Newfoundland 1 In September she was nominated for a special convoy RB1 On the 16th she sailed with HMS Vanoc 1 Loss Edit On 23 September 1942 Convoy RB1 was sighted by U 380 and U boat Group Blitz was ordered to attack Groups Vorwarts and Pfiel were also directed against RB1 On the 25th the SS Boston and SS New York were sunk and the convoy scattered On 26 September the convoy was ordered to reform and HMS Veteran came across the survivors of the SS New York While she was picking up some of the survivors HMS Veteran was hit by two torpedoes from U 404 HMS Veteran sank quickly in position 54 51N 23 04W south of Iceland after an explosion All hands as well as a number of survivors from the SS New York were lost 6 Other survivors from SS New York were later rescued 1 Image gallery Edit Founder and Secretary of the Company of Veteran Motorists Dick Wood with the specially commissioned king size CVM badge that was displayed on HMS Veteran Model of HMS Veteran in GlasgowNotes Edit a b c d e f g h i j k l m Service Histories of Royal Navy Warships in World War 2 a b c Jane s Fighting Ships c for 1919 Archived from the original on 16 February 2012 HMS Veteran Good Motoring Magazine 13 February 1940 U Boat net Blair Clay 1996 Hitler s U Boat War The Hunters 1939 1942 New York Random House Inc p 363 ISBN 0 394 58839 8 Blair Clay 1996 Hitler s U Boat War The Hunted 1942 1945 New York Random House Inc p 36 ISBN 0 679 45742 9 Bibliography EditCampbell John 1985 Naval Weapons of World War II Annapolis Maryland Naval Institute Press ISBN 0 87021 459 4 Chesneau Roger ed 1980 Conway s All the World s Fighting Ships 1922 1946 Greenwich UK Conway Maritime Press ISBN 0 85177 146 7 Colledge J J Warlow Ben 2006 1969 Ships of the Royal Navy The Complete Record of all Fighting Ships of the Royal Navy Rev ed London Chatham Publishing ISBN 978 1 86176 281 8 Cocker Maurice 1981 Destroyers of the Royal Navy 1893 1981 Ian Allan ISBN 0 7110 1075 7 Friedman Norman 2009 British Destroyers From Earliest Days to the Second World War Annapolis Maryland Naval Institute Press ISBN 978 1 59114 081 8 Gardiner Robert amp Gray Randal eds 1985 Conway s All the World s Fighting Ships 1906 1921 Annapolis Maryland Naval Institute Press ISBN 0 85177 245 5 Lenton H T 1998 British amp Empire Warships of the Second World War Annapolis Maryland Naval Institute Press ISBN 1 55750 048 7 March Edgar J 1966 British Destroyers A History of Development 1892 1953 Drawn by Admiralty Permission From Official Records amp Returns Ships Covers amp Building Plans London Seeley Service OCLC 164893555 Preston Antony 1971 V amp W Class Destroyers 1917 1945 London Macdonald OCLC 464542895 Raven Alan amp Roberts John 1979 V and W Class Destroyers Man o War Vol 2 London Arms amp Armour ISBN 0 85368 233 X Rohwer Jurgen 2005 Chronology of the War at Sea 1939 1945 The Naval History of World War Two Third Revised ed Annapolis Maryland Naval Institute Press ISBN 1 59114 119 2 Whinney Bob 2000 The U boat Peril A Fight for Survival Cassell ISBN 0 304 35132 6 Whitley M J 1988 Destroyers of World War 2 Annapolis Maryland Naval Institute Press ISBN 0 87021 326 1 Winser John de D 1999 B E F Ships Before At and After Dunkirk Gravesend Kent World Ship Society ISBN 0 905617 91 6 External links Edit Wikimedia Commons has media related to HMS Veteran D72 A service history of HMS Veteran was compiled by the late Lieutenant Commander Geoffry Mason and can be found at the Naval History Web Site U Boat netCoordinates 54 34 N 25 44 W 54 567 N 25 733 W 54 567 25 733 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