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Offset overhand bend

The offset overhand bend (OOB, ABoK No. 1410) is a knot used to join two ropes together end-to-end. It is formed by holding two rope ends next to each other and tying an overhand knot in them as if they were a single line. Due to its common use in several fields, this bend has become known by many names, such as thumb knot, openhand knot,[1] one-sided overhand knot or flat overhand bend (FOB), though the terms "one-sided" and "flat" are considered incorrect.[2]

Offset overhand bend
NamesOffset overhand bend, European Death knot (EDK), offset water knot, flat overhand bend, thumb knot, thumb bend, Creeler's knot, openhand knot
CategoryBend
OriginAncient
RelatedOverhand knot, water knot
ReleasingJamming
Typical usesewing, weaving, baling, climbing, rappelling
ABoK246, 359, 1236, 1410, 1557, 1558, 3789

Geometry edit

The term 'offset' refers to the knot core being displaced from the axis of tension. This geometry allows the knot to more easily translate around an edge - particularly a 90 degree edge.

Uses edit

Long used by weavers to join the ends of yarn, the offset water knot is very old. It was one of the knots likely identified among the possessions of Ötzi the Iceman, who dates from 3300 BC.[3]

The knot is also tied in a slipped form by mechanical balers to bind straw and hay, but this bend is not practical to use as a binding knot when tied by hand.[1]

In climbing and mountaineering edit

For mountaineers/climbers, there tends to be a strong preference for using knots that are perceived to be relatively easy to tie - even when fatigued or in a less than optimal frame of mind[clarification needed] - and so #1410 (Offset overhand bend) is favored. Climbers/canyoners need to retrieve their ropes after an abseil/rappel descent. The ability to retrieve ropes after an abseil descent is crucial - and in many cases, two ropes need to be joined to increase the distance that can be descended in one 'pitch'. The resulting knot that unites the two ropes needs be secure and stable, have a small footprint, and be resistant to jamming.

There is controversy over its safety, as it can fail by capsizing under high loads,[4][5][6][7] and some American climbers refer to it as the European death knot, abbreviated to EDK, with some sources recommending against its use.[8][9] Failure of this knot has been implicated in some accidents and near-misses - although post accident retrieval of ropes for examination are usually inconclusive because the ropes have separated (and hence there is no remnant knot to examine).[10][11][12]

Many sources argue that the name 'EDK' is a misnomer, and the knot is safe for abseiling / rappelling, since this does not generate as high forces as a fall. The nominal load during abseiling/rappelling is one person - generally around 1.0kN (approximately 100kg). If the system is configured so the ropes are doubled through the anchor, the joining knot will only be subjected to 50% of the load (ie approximately 0.5kN) - which is well below the instability threshold. With due diligence given to dressing and setting the knot, the risk of capsizing is highly unlikely.[13]

Several sources recommend adding a second overhand as close as possible to the first (a stacked overhand or double overhand) for most situations, which maintains most of the benefits, while preventing it from capsizing.[9][13][12][11][14][15][16][17] This doubles the overall footprint of the knot, which might increase its likelihood of getting stuck in cracks, but does not harm its ability to pass over edges. There are several different choices of offset knots - all offering varying levels of advantages/disadvantages. Another option is wrapping the strands a second time before passing the tail through (a two-rope version of ABoK #516, also called a double overhand[8] or flat doubled overhand bend[9]) but again, it increases the overall footprint.

Easily formed in most lines, the offset overhand bend is jam resistant at nominal loads of one person (approximately 100kg). In EN892 climbing ropes, the jamming threshold is thought to be in the vicinity of 3.0kN (300kg). The instability threshold is thought to be above 4.0kN (400kg) – that is, a capsizing event becomes increasingly probable as loads exceed 400kg. It is critically important to pay close attention to dressing and cinching of the knot before attempting to abseil. That is, climbers must exercise due diligence when tying this knot – by pulling firmly on each of the four rope segments – which is necessary to achieve a properly compacted and cinched dressing state.[18]

Despite questions about this knot's security, it does present some advantages for use in rappels. Because the knot is offset from the axis of tension, it can translate more easily over uneven surfaces and 90 degree edges than other knots; and it is quickly tied and readily untied. Since a stuck rope on a multi-pitch descent can be catastrophic for climbers, these advantages, along with ease of tying, have led to its popularity. As with all knots used in life critical applications, the tails must be of sufficient minimum length (never less than 200mm in offset knots), and be diligently dressed and fully tightened by pulling individually on all four rope segments.[19]

 
mid rotation state of No. 1410 offset overhand bend

An interesting yet overlooked fact is that #1410 (offset overhand bend), can be rotated to induce a choking effect to trap and crush the tails. Virtually all testers appear to only examine this knot in its mid-rotation state.[citation needed] It is theorized that this mid-rotation state is in fact the orientation where the structure is most vulnerable to capsizing. In addition, when tying the offset overhand bend using different rope diameters, the thinner diameter rope must be positioned underneath the larger diameter rope. This tactic further inhibits any likelihood of capsizing.

The offset figure-eight bend, a similar knot using the figure-eight knot, has been used in the belief that its greater size and complexity brings more security. But testing and more than one fatal failure indicate the figure-eight variant to be less secure, more prone to capsize at lower loads, and in capsizing uses more of the ends than does a capsizing overhand bend.[13][19] Moreover, while there is one proper dressing of the overhand bend, there are a couple of dressings for the offset figure eight bend.[2]

See also edit

References edit

  1. ^ a b Ashley, Clifford W. (1944), The Ashley Book of Knots, New York: Doubleday, p. 45
  2. ^ a b Gommers, Mark (2017-12-24). "Analysis of Offset Overhand Bends". Professional Association of Climbing Instructors Pty. Ltd (1.6a ed.). Retrieved 2019-02-17. The persistent use of the term 'flat' or 'one-sided' is incorrect and it is hoped that this paper will assist in correcting the nomenclature.
  3. ^ van der Kleij, Gerre (1996), "On Knots and Swamps", in Turner, J.C.; van de Griend, P. (eds.), History and Science of Knots, K&E Series on Knots and Everything, vol. 11, Singapore: World Scientific Publishing, pp. 34–35, ISBN 981-02-2469-9
  4. ^ "Flat Overhand Knot Pull Test With Wet Rope", YouTube (Video), Outdoor Pursuits - Campus Recreation at Auraria, 2014-09-15, archived from the original on 2021-12-12, retrieved 2018-07-10
  5. ^ "Flat Overhand with Backup Knot Dry Pull Test", YouTube (Video), Outdoor Pursuits - Campus Recreation at Auraria, 2014-11-06, archived from the original on 2021-12-12, retrieved 2018-10-10
  6. ^ "The Breaking Machine". Vimeo. 0:18 to 0:27. Retrieved 2018-10-10.
  7. ^ Delaney, Richard (2012-04-15), "EDK Edelrid 11mm super static", YouTube (Video), archived from the original on 2021-12-12, retrieved 2018-10-14
  8. ^ a b Prattley, Grant (June 2016). "Which bends for joining ropes?" (PDF). Over The Edge Rescue. Retrieved 2019-02-17. [2016 version:] The Double Overhand has the best all round performance. ... [2015 version:] The overhand is not a recommended bend for tying two ropes for live load due to the low break strength and failure by rolling. ... Double overhand is a recommended bend
  9. ^ a b c Prattley, Grant (2020-10-14). "Which bends for joining ropes? – Update". Over The Edge Rescue. Retrieved 2020-10-15. Overhand EDK ... Not recommended for canyoning. ... – Max force is low well below 10kN, the bend rolls off the end, multiple major rolls. ... either the Double Overhand or the Stacked Overhand bend are recommended for canyoning
  10. ^ Magnuson, Mark. "Use of the Overhand Knot for Rappels". Cragmont Climbing Club. Retrieved 2018-07-10.
  11. ^ a b Gaines, Bob; Martin, Jason D. (2014-05-20). Rock Climbing: The AMGA Single Pitch Manual. Rowman & Littlefield. p. 84. ISBN 9781493009626. In one such rappelling accident in recent times (in the Tetons, September 1997), the flat overhand failed when it was sloppily tied with too short of a tail. ... For added security it can be easily backed up simply by tying another flat overhand above the first one, although this adds bulk.
  12. ^ a b Kirkpatrick, Andy. "The Ultimate Abseil Knot". Retrieved 2019-02-17. AND THE BEST JOINING KNOT IS… the double overhand. ... During year I used the Simple Overhand Knot to rappel. But one day I almost saw my climbing partner falling because this simple knot.
  13. ^ a b c Moyer, Tom (1999-11-09), Rope and Gear Testing: Pull Tests of the "Euro Death-Knot", Adding a safety by tying a second overhand on top of the first is probably a good idea.
  14. ^ Reid, Stephen (2003). . Needle Sports. Archived from the original on 2010-01-31. Retrieved 2019-02-17. As a result of all these findings I am convinced that what I term the Double Overhand is the best knot (if not the safest) to use when joining two ropes together for abseiling.
  15. ^ Jones, Tom (May 8, 2012). "How to Tie Two Ropes Together". Canyoneering USA. Retrieved 2019-02-17. the preferred knot for connecting rope is the European Death Knot ... WITH a back-up knot.
  16. ^ Martin, Jason D. (March 9, 2009). "The Euro Death Knot". American Alpine Institute. Retrieved 2019-02-17. Most guides tie a backup by adding a second overhand bend next to the first.
  17. ^ Geldard, Jack. "SKILLS: Abseil Knots Explained". UKClimbing. Retrieved 2019-02-17. For normal abseiling, if the ropes are dry then I use a well-tied, neat, single overhand knot with ample tails (30cm). If I was double loading the ropes with 2 people at once, or if the ropes were icy, I use a double overhand knot.
  18. ^ Cyrus Lawrence Day (1986), The Art of Knotting and Splicing (4th ed.), Annapolis: Naval Institute Press, pp. 52–53
  19. ^ a b Soles, Clyde (2004), The Outdoor Knot Book, Seattle: The Mountaineers Books, pp. 125–127, ISBN 978-0-89886-962-0

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The offset overhand bend OOB ABoK No 1410 is a knot used to join two ropes together end to end It is formed by holding two rope ends next to each other and tying an overhand knot in them as if they were a single line Due to its common use in several fields this bend has become known by many names such as thumb knot openhand knot 1 one sided overhand knot or flat overhand bend FOB though the terms one sided and flat are considered incorrect 2 Offset overhand bendNamesOffset overhand bend European Death knot EDK offset water knot flat overhand bend thumb knot thumb bend Creeler s knot openhand knotCategoryBendOriginAncientRelatedOverhand knot water knotReleasingJammingTypical usesewing weaving baling climbing rappellingABoK246 359 1236 1410 1557 1558 3789 Contents 1 Geometry 2 Uses 2 1 In climbing and mountaineering 3 See also 4 ReferencesGeometry editThe term offset refers to the knot core being displaced from the axis of tension This geometry allows the knot to more easily translate around an edge particularly a 90 degree edge Uses editLong used by weavers to join the ends of yarn the offset water knot is very old It was one of the knots likely identified among the possessions of Otzi the Iceman who dates from 3300 BC 3 The knot is also tied in a slipped form by mechanical balers to bind straw and hay but this bend is not practical to use as a binding knot when tied by hand 1 In climbing and mountaineering edit For mountaineers climbers there tends to be a strong preference for using knots that are perceived to be relatively easy to tie even when fatigued or in a less than optimal frame of mind clarification needed and so 1410 Offset overhand bend is favored Climbers canyoners need to retrieve their ropes after an abseil rappel descent The ability to retrieve ropes after an abseil descent is crucial and in many cases two ropes need to be joined to increase the distance that can be descended in one pitch The resulting knot that unites the two ropes needs be secure and stable have a small footprint and be resistant to jamming There is controversy over its safety as it can fail by capsizing under high loads 4 5 6 7 and some American climbers refer to it as the European death knot abbreviated to EDK with some sources recommending against its use 8 9 Failure of this knot has been implicated in some accidents and near misses although post accident retrieval of ropes for examination are usually inconclusive because the ropes have separated and hence there is no remnant knot to examine 10 11 12 Many sources argue that the name EDK is a misnomer and the knot is safe for abseiling rappelling since this does not generate as high forces as a fall The nominal load during abseiling rappelling is one person generally around 1 0kN approximately 100kg If the system is configured so the ropes are doubled through the anchor the joining knot will only be subjected to 50 of the load ie approximately 0 5kN which is well below the instability threshold With due diligence given to dressing and setting the knot the risk of capsizing is highly unlikely 13 Several sources recommend adding a second overhand as close as possible to the first a stacked overhand or double overhand for most situations which maintains most of the benefits while preventing it from capsizing 9 13 12 11 14 15 16 17 This doubles the overall footprint of the knot which might increase its likelihood of getting stuck in cracks but does not harm its ability to pass over edges There are several different choices of offset knots all offering varying levels of advantages disadvantages Another option is wrapping the strands a second time before passing the tail through a two rope version of ABoK 516 also called a double overhand 8 or flat doubled overhand bend 9 but again it increases the overall footprint Easily formed in most lines the offset overhand bend is jam resistant at nominal loads of one person approximately 100kg In EN892 climbing ropes the jamming threshold is thought to be in the vicinity of 3 0kN 300kg The instability threshold is thought to be above 4 0kN 400kg that is a capsizing event becomes increasingly probable as loads exceed 400kg It is critically important to pay close attention to dressing and cinching of the knot before attempting to abseil That is climbers must exercise due diligence when tying this knot by pulling firmly on each of the four rope segments which is necessary to achieve a properly compacted and cinched dressing state 18 Despite questions about this knot s security it does present some advantages for use in rappels Because the knot is offset from the axis of tension it can translate more easily over uneven surfaces and 90 degree edges than other knots and it is quickly tied and readily untied Since a stuck rope on a multi pitch descent can be catastrophic for climbers these advantages along with ease of tying have led to its popularity As with all knots used in life critical applications the tails must be of sufficient minimum length never less than 200mm in offset knots and be diligently dressed and fully tightened by pulling individually on all four rope segments 19 nbsp mid rotation state of No 1410 offset overhand bendAn interesting yet overlooked fact is that 1410 offset overhand bend can be rotated to induce a choking effect to trap and crush the tails Virtually all testers appear to only examine this knot in its mid rotation state citation needed It is theorized that this mid rotation state is in fact the orientation where the structure is most vulnerable to capsizing In addition when tying the offset overhand bend using different rope diameters the thinner diameter rope must be positioned underneath the larger diameter rope This tactic further inhibits any likelihood of capsizing The offset figure eight bend a similar knot using the figure eight knot has been used in the belief that its greater size and complexity brings more security But testing and more than one fatal failure indicate the figure eight variant to be less secure more prone to capsize at lower loads and in capsizing uses more of the ends than does a capsizing overhand bend 13 19 Moreover while there is one proper dressing of the overhand bend there are a couple of dressings for the offset figure eight bend 2 See also editList of bend knots List of knotsReferences edit a b Ashley Clifford W 1944 The Ashley Book of Knots New York Doubleday p 45 a b Gommers Mark 2017 12 24 Analysis of Offset Overhand Bends Professional Association of Climbing Instructors Pty Ltd 1 6a ed Retrieved 2019 02 17 The persistent use of the term flat or one sided is incorrect and it is hoped that this paper will assist in correcting the nomenclature van der Kleij Gerre 1996 On Knots and Swamps in Turner J C van de Griend P eds History and Science of Knots K amp E Series on Knots and Everything vol 11 Singapore World Scientific Publishing pp 34 35 ISBN 981 02 2469 9 Flat Overhand Knot Pull Test With Wet Rope YouTube Video Outdoor Pursuits Campus Recreation at Auraria 2014 09 15 archived from the original on 2021 12 12 retrieved 2018 07 10 Flat Overhand with Backup Knot Dry Pull Test YouTube Video Outdoor Pursuits Campus Recreation at Auraria 2014 11 06 archived from the original on 2021 12 12 retrieved 2018 10 10 The Breaking Machine Vimeo 0 18 to 0 27 Retrieved 2018 10 10 Delaney Richard 2012 04 15 EDK Edelrid 11mm super static YouTube Video archived from the original on 2021 12 12 retrieved 2018 10 14 a b Prattley Grant June 2016 Which bends for joining ropes PDF Over The Edge Rescue Retrieved 2019 02 17 2016 version The Double Overhand has the best all round performance 2015 version The overhand is not a recommended bend for tying two ropes for live load due to the low break strength and failure by rolling Double overhand is a recommended bend a b c Prattley Grant 2020 10 14 Which bends for joining ropes Update Over The Edge Rescue Retrieved 2020 10 15 Overhand EDK Not recommended for canyoning Max force is low well below 10kN the bend rolls off the end multiple major rolls either the Double Overhand or the Stacked Overhand bend are recommended for canyoning Magnuson Mark Use of the Overhand Knot for Rappels Cragmont Climbing Club Retrieved 2018 07 10 a b Gaines Bob Martin Jason D 2014 05 20 Rock Climbing The AMGA Single Pitch Manual Rowman amp Littlefield p 84 ISBN 9781493009626 In one such rappelling accident in recent times in the Tetons September 1997 the flat overhand failed when it was sloppily tied with too short of a tail For added security it can be easily backed up simply by tying another flat overhand above the first one although this adds bulk a b Kirkpatrick Andy The Ultimate Abseil Knot Retrieved 2019 02 17 AND THE BEST JOINING KNOT IS the double overhand During year I used the Simple Overhand Knot to rappel But one day I almost saw my climbing partner falling because this simple knot a b c Moyer Tom 1999 11 09 Rope and Gear Testing Pull Tests of the Euro Death Knot Adding a safety by tying a second overhand on top of the first is probably a good idea Reid Stephen 2003 Abseil Knots or Instant Death Knot Condemned Needle Sports Archived from the original on 2010 01 31 Retrieved 2019 02 17 As a result of all these findings I am convinced that what I term the Double Overhand is the best knot if not the safest to use when joining two ropes together for abseiling Jones Tom May 8 2012 How to Tie Two Ropes Together Canyoneering USA Retrieved 2019 02 17 the preferred knot for connecting rope is the European Death Knot WITH a back up knot Martin Jason D March 9 2009 The Euro Death Knot American Alpine Institute Retrieved 2019 02 17 Most guides tie a backup by adding a second overhand bend next to the first Geldard Jack SKILLS Abseil Knots Explained UKClimbing Retrieved 2019 02 17 For normal abseiling if the ropes are dry then I use a well tied neat single overhand knot with ample tails 30cm If I was double loading the ropes with 2 people at once or if the ropes were icy I use a double overhand knot Cyrus Lawrence Day 1986 The Art of Knotting and Splicing 4th ed Annapolis Naval Institute Press pp 52 53 a b Soles Clyde 2004 The Outdoor Knot Book Seattle The Mountaineers Books pp 125 127 ISBN 978 0 89886 962 0 Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Offset overhand bend amp oldid 1154514927, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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