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Denis Pagan

Denis Leslie Pagan (born 24 September 1947) is a former Australian rules football coach and player in the VFL/AFL. Pagan is a dual AFL premiership coach, and he also won the prestigious Victoria derby in 2020 as a trainer and owner of the horse “Johnny Get Angry.” This victory made him the first Australian sports figure to win an AFL premiership as a coach and train a group 1 horse race winner.

Denis Pagan
Personal information
Full name Denis Leslie Pagan
Date of birth (1947-09-24) 24 September 1947 (age 75)
Original team(s) Carlton U19
Height 183 cm (6 ft 0 in)
Weight 85 kg (187 lb)
Playing career1
Years Club Games (Goals)
1967–1974 North Melbourne 120 (5)
1975–1976 South Melbourne 023 (0)
Total 143 (5)
Representative team honours
Years Team Games (Goals)
1971 Victoria
Coaching career3
Years Club Games (W–L–D)
1993–2002 North Melbourne 240 (150–90–0)
2003–2007 Carlton 104 (25–77–2)
Total 344 (175–167–2)
1 Playing statistics correct to the end of 1976.
3 Coaching statistics correct as of 2007.
Career highlights
Sources: AFL Tables, AustralianFootball.com

Playing career

North Melbourne

Pagan played 120 games for the North Melbourne Football Club between 1967 and 1974, kicking 5 goals, mainly due to his permanent spot as a hard-nosed defender in the back pocket. He represented Victoria in interstate matches in 1971.[1]

After the Grand Final loss to Richmond in 1974, Pagan was pushed out of North Melbourne by senior coach Ron Barassi and Pagan's dwindling form and the club's reassessment of its squad in the aftermath of 1974 loss was the factor that caused Pagan's departure from North Melbourne Football Club.[2]

South Melbourne

Pagan then moved back to his original roots (excepting Carlton, where Barassi expelled him in 1966) to South Melbourne for two seasons, 1975 until 1976, playing 23 games and kicking 0 goals. However, these events did not deter Pagan from his dedication to the North Melbourne football club, despite Barassi's authoritative coaching style.[3]

Port Melbourne Football Club (VFA)

In 1978, Pagan played for Port Melbourne in the Victorian Football Association.[4][5]

Coaching career

Early coaching career

Pagan's coaching career began when he took the role of captain-coach of the Yarraville Football Club in the VFA second division in 1979. He piloted the team to the 1980 minor premiership and Grand Final, but the club lost the Grand Final against Brunswick.[6] Pagan then returned to North Melbourne, and had great success as its Under-19s coach over the following decade. Pagan led the team to nine consecutive Under-19s Grand Finals from 1983 to 1991, resulting in five premierships: in 1984, 1987, 1988, 1990 and 1991.[7] After the AFL's Under-19s competition was disbanded at the end of 1991, Pagan was signed by the Essendon Football Club, where he led its reserves team to the Victorian State Football League premiership in 1992.[8]

North Melbourne Football Club

Pagan returned again to North Melbourne in the 1993 season, and was appointed senior coach. He had an immediate impact at the Kangaroos, taking the side to the finals that year. Pagan led North Melbourne to a premiership in 1996. Pagan also led North Melbourne to the 1998 Grand Final but fell short and lost to Adelaide. Pagan then led North Melbourne to another premiership in 1999 and reached at least the preliminary final every year from 1994 to 2000.[9][10]

He was known for pioneering a successful tactic which was termed "Pagan's Paddock", based around his key forward Wayne Carey.[11] The coaching strategy involved moving all forwards out of the 50-metre arc and midfielders bombing the ball into empty space. The key forwards would run with the flight of the ball to take a mark or running goal.[12]

By the end of his term at North Melbourne, he had established an impeccable reputation as a senior AFL coach and the longest serving coach in the club's history. His worst season at North Melbourne was in the 2001 season, when the club missed the finals for the only time during his 10-year term at the club.[13]

Pagan quit as senior coach of North Melbourne Football Club at the end of the 2002 season, despite the team finishing 7th, which was a better result than expected after Wayne Carey left the club at the beginning of the year after his much-publicised affair. Pagan then went to sign a lucrative deal with the Carlton Football Club.[14][15] Pagan was then replaced by Dean Laidley as senior coach of North Melbourne.[16]

Carlton Football Club

At the end of 2002, Pagan was appointed senior coach of the Carlton Football Club, replacing Wayne Brittain, after Brittain was sacked when Carlton under Brittain finished sixteenth (last-on the ladder position) for the wooden spoon in the 2002 season.[17] Brittain had a year remaining on his contract, and was paid out by the club. Pagan's attempt to rebuild the side was not helped by the fact the club had been hit with salary cap breaches which prevented the club from rebuilding its playing list in the short term.[18] As a result of these penalties, in Pagan's first season as Carlton Football Club senior coach in the 2003 season, Carlton under Pagan endured another unsuccessful season, finishing fifteenth (second-last) on the ladder with four wins and eighteen losses.[19] Employing a recycled player policy in an attempt to rebuild the team for the 2004 season where Pagan led Carlton to eleventh on the ladder with ten wins and twelve losses, which was Carlton's highest placing under Pagan, and carried this into a pre-season premiership in the 2005 Wizard Cup.[20] However, this proved to be a false dawn, when Carlton under Pagan ended up receiving two consecutive wooden spoons in the 2005 season with four wins, one draw and seventeen losses, and in the 2006 season with three wins, one draw and eighteen losses.[21] There were talks that he may have been sacked at this point;[22] however, it was decided to extend his contract until the end of the 2008 season.[23][24]

Carlton under Pagan did not improve much in the 2007 season, sitting at fourteenth on the ladder after Round 16, 2007 with four wins and twelve losses. Between Rounds 12 and 16, Carlton suffered five consecutive heavy defeats, the last of which was a 117-point defeat against the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba in Round 16, 2007, in which Lions' full-forward and Coleman Medallist Jonathan Brown kicked a club record 10 goals and earned three Brownlow Medal votes.[25] It proved to be the nail in the coffin for Pagan and his job, and Pagan was sacked as Carlton Football Club senior coach the following day on 23 July 2007.[26][27] He was not bitter at the club's decision, and wanted to go on record that he would never have quit as the coach of the Carlton Football Club. Pagan was replaced by assistant coach Brett Ratten as caretaker senior coach for the remainder of the 2007 season, who was eventually appointed full-time senior coach of Carlton.[28][29] Pagan had a year to go on his contract which was paid out in full by the club.

Years later in 2014, Pagan later stated in the Sydney Morning Herald newspaper that coaching Carlton was "a very difficult assignment", also taking into consideration the fact that the club had lost valuable draft picks in the wake of the salary cap breaches.[30] In 2021, Pagan in a radio interview with SEN described his tenure as senior coach of Carlton as a “snake pit” because of "Divisions and disunity" at the club that he experienced.[31][32] In 2022, Pagan further elaborated by stating "When I was at Carlton I don't think I've ever seen a bigger mess. It was like going to work every day and a little bloke hiding behind the door with a sledgehammer and whacking you around the chin. They didn't have a great list, they didn't have any money, the place was in turmoil, there was factions and splits everywhere. It was a great club and it just disintegrated. It was the biggest regret without any doubt whatsoever".[33]

Post coaching-career

In 2008, Pagan became a board member at North Melbourne Football Club.[34] however after the 2008 season he left the position to coach the Northern Knights in the TAC under 18s competition for one season only, and he has since had no involvement in football. Since 2009, he runs Pagan real estate alongside his son Ryan.[35] Since 2020, he has been a horse trainer, going on to win the Victoria Derby with his horse Johnny Get Angry.

Legacy and reception

Pagan has been described as a "meticulous planner, an inspirational leader of men and for the relentless pursuit of excellence".[36] Beyond dispute is the indelible mark, Pagan has left on the game of Australian football". He ranks 16th on the list of most senior VFL/AFL games coached and a two-time premiership coach.[37] Pagan's coaching philosophies have also been described as being based upon "communication, teaching, people management and leadership".[38] In 2018, Pagan was inducted as coaching legend in the AFL Coaches Association awards in recognition of the significant achievement and excellence over his time of a former AFL coach.[39][40][41]

Former North Melbourne captain Wayne Carey who played under Pagan in Pagan's tenure as senior coach of North Melbourne described Pagan as the man to "turn the place around" where "He'd clean the place out," and under Pagan players would have a go, if they didn't have a go, they wouldn't be in the side."He'd tell you how it is, he'd tell everyone within the club where they're at. "It's hard-nosed basic training."[42]

Former North Melbourne and Carlton player Corey McKernan who played under Pagan in both Pagan's tenures as senior coach of North Melbourne and Carlton both praised and was critical of Pagan, where Pagan was famously tough on his players and it wore McKernan down over the years stating "he and Pagan had a deep respect, but by the end it was a non-working relationship" furthermore "there was an enormous amount of respect for Pagan, but at the end of the day it wasn’t getting the best out of one another,” and "I wasn’t enjoying my football and wasn’t enjoying the environment that we were playing in" and “Our relationship didn’t work in the end but trust me, for the stuff we did together I am incredibly grateful and I think of the habits Denis has taught me".[43]

Former Carlton Football Club Captain Anthony Koutoufides who played under Pagan in Pagan's tenure as senior coach of Carlton was critical of Pagan by stating "he was unfair on players and had an outdated game plan, which the players did not believe in".[44]

Former North Melbourne player Adam Simpson who played under Pagan in Pagan's tenure as senior coach of North Melbourne praised Pagan by stating “What I wanted to do was just prove myself to Denis, that I was a good player, that I could handle whatever he put in front of me … it didn’t take a lot to get the best out of me, because I just wanted to please him”.[45]

Former North Melbourne player John Longmire who played under Pagan in Pagan's tenure as senior coach of North Melbourne praised Pagan by stating “He got the best out of his players because he knew which players to push, and push in some instances really hard. But also which players to put an arm around and when”.[46]

Legendary AFL coach Mick Malthouse has also praised Pagan by stating “I had a great respect for Denis’ capabilities as a coach. From a distance, probably his greatest strength was that he had no fear”.[47]

Statistics

Playing statistics

[48]
Legend
  G  
Goals
  K  
Kicks
  D  
Disposals 
  T  
Tackles
  B  
Behinds 
  H  
Handballs 
  M  
Marks
Season Team No. Games Totals Averages (per game)
G B K H D M T G B K H D M T
1967 North Melbourne 45 7 2 5 55 1 56 11 0.3 0.7 7.9 0.1 8.0 1.6
1968 North Melbourne 26 16 3 4 243 8 251 53 0.2 0.3 15.2 0.5 15.7 3.3
1969 North Melbourne 17 19 0 0 295 10 305 69 0.0 0.0 15.5 0.5 16.1 3.6
1970 North Melbourne 17 17 0 0 274 20 294 63 0.0 0.0 16.1 1.2 17.3 3.7
1971 North Melbourne 17 16 0 0 278 20 298 65 0.0 0.0 17.4 1.3 18.6 4.1
1972 North Melbourne 17 18 0 0 280 13 293 66 0.0 0.0 15.6 0.7 16.3 3.7
1973 North Melbourne 17 12 0 0 146 13 159 22 0.0 0.0 12.2 1.1 13.3 1.8
1974 North Melbourne 17 15 0 0 171 19 190 17 0.0 0.0 11.4 1.3 12.7 1.1
1975 South Melbourne 6 7 0 0 77 7 84 10 0.0 0.0 12.8 1.2 14.0 1.7
1976 South Melbourne 6 16 0 0 165 24 189 27 0.0 0.0 10.3 1.5 11.8 1.7
Career 143 5 9 1984 135 2119 403 0.0 0.1 14.0 1.0 14.9 2.8

Coaching statistics

[49]
Legend
 W  Wins  L  Losses  D  Draws  W%  Winning percentage  LP  Ladder position  LT  League teams
Season Team Games W L D W % LP LT
1993 North Melbourne 21 13 8 0 61.9% 3 15
1994 North Melbourne 24 14 10 0 58.3% 3 15
1995 North Melbourne 25 16 9 0 64.0% 6 16
1996 North Melbourne 25 19 6 0 76.0% 2 16
1997 North Melbourne 25 14 11 0 56.0% 7 16
1998 North Melbourne 25 18 7 0 72.0% 1 16
1999 Kangaroos 25 20 5 0 80.0% 2 16
2000 Kangaroos 25 15 10 0 60.0% 4 16
2001 Kangaroos 22 9 13 0 40.9% 13 16
2002 Kangaroos 23 12 11 0 52.2% 7 16
2003 Carlton 22 4 18 0 18.2% 15 16
2004 Carlton 22 10 12 0 45.5% 11 16
2005 Carlton 22 4 17 1 20.5% 16 16
2006 Carlton 22 3 18 1 15.9% 16 16
2007 Carlton 16 4 12 0 25.0% 15 16
Career totals 344 175 167 2 51.2%

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Denis Leslie Pagan born 24 September 1947 is a former Australian rules football coach and player in the VFL AFL Pagan is a dual AFL premiership coach and he also won the prestigious Victoria derby in 2020 as a trainer and owner of the horse Johnny Get Angry This victory made him the first Australian sports figure to win an AFL premiership as a coach and train a group 1 horse race winner Denis PaganPersonal informationFull nameDenis Leslie PaganDate of birth 1947 09 24 24 September 1947 age 75 Original team s Carlton U19Height183 cm 6 ft 0 in Weight85 kg 187 lb Playing career1YearsClubGames Goals 1967 1974North Melbourne120 5 1975 1976South Melbourne0 23 0 Total143 5 Representative team honoursYearsTeamGames Goals 1971VictoriaCoaching career3YearsClubGames W L D 1993 2002North Melbourne240 150 90 0 2003 2007Carlton104 25 77 2 Total344 175 167 2 1 Playing statistics correct to the end of 1976 3 Coaching statistics correct as of 2007 Career highlightsAFL Premiership coach 1996 1999 All Australian Team coach 1999 North Melbourne Team of the Century coachSources AFL Tables AustralianFootball com Contents 1 Playing career 1 1 North Melbourne 1 2 South Melbourne 1 3 Port Melbourne Football Club VFA 2 Coaching career 2 1 Early coaching career 2 2 North Melbourne Football Club 2 3 Carlton Football Club 3 Post coaching career 4 Legacy and reception 5 Statistics 5 1 Playing statistics 5 2 Coaching statistics 6 ReferencesPlaying career EditNorth Melbourne Edit Pagan played 120 games for the North Melbourne Football Club between 1967 and 1974 kicking 5 goals mainly due to his permanent spot as a hard nosed defender in the back pocket He represented Victoria in interstate matches in 1971 1 After the Grand Final loss to Richmond in 1974 Pagan was pushed out of North Melbourne by senior coach Ron Barassi and Pagan s dwindling form and the club s reassessment of its squad in the aftermath of 1974 loss was the factor that caused Pagan s departure from North Melbourne Football Club 2 South Melbourne Edit Pagan then moved back to his original roots excepting Carlton where Barassi expelled him in 1966 to South Melbourne for two seasons 1975 until 1976 playing 23 games and kicking 0 goals However these events did not deter Pagan from his dedication to the North Melbourne football club despite Barassi s authoritative coaching style 3 Port Melbourne Football Club VFA Edit In 1978 Pagan played for Port Melbourne in the Victorian Football Association 4 5 Coaching career EditEarly coaching career Edit Pagan s coaching career began when he took the role of captain coach of the Yarraville Football Club in the VFA second division in 1979 He piloted the team to the 1980 minor premiership and Grand Final but the club lost the Grand Final against Brunswick 6 Pagan then returned to North Melbourne and had great success as its Under 19s coach over the following decade Pagan led the team to nine consecutive Under 19s Grand Finals from 1983 to 1991 resulting in five premierships in 1984 1987 1988 1990 and 1991 7 After the AFL s Under 19s competition was disbanded at the end of 1991 Pagan was signed by the Essendon Football Club where he led its reserves team to the Victorian State Football League premiership in 1992 8 North Melbourne Football Club Edit Pagan returned again to North Melbourne in the 1993 season and was appointed senior coach He had an immediate impact at the Kangaroos taking the side to the finals that year Pagan led North Melbourne to a premiership in 1996 Pagan also led North Melbourne to the 1998 Grand Final but fell short and lost to Adelaide Pagan then led North Melbourne to another premiership in 1999 and reached at least the preliminary final every year from 1994 to 2000 9 10 He was known for pioneering a successful tactic which was termed Pagan s Paddock based around his key forward Wayne Carey 11 The coaching strategy involved moving all forwards out of the 50 metre arc and midfielders bombing the ball into empty space The key forwards would run with the flight of the ball to take a mark or running goal 12 By the end of his term at North Melbourne he had established an impeccable reputation as a senior AFL coach and the longest serving coach in the club s history His worst season at North Melbourne was in the 2001 season when the club missed the finals for the only time during his 10 year term at the club 13 Pagan quit as senior coach of North Melbourne Football Club at the end of the 2002 season despite the team finishing 7th which was a better result than expected after Wayne Carey left the club at the beginning of the year after his much publicised affair Pagan then went to sign a lucrative deal with the Carlton Football Club 14 15 Pagan was then replaced by Dean Laidley as senior coach of North Melbourne 16 Carlton Football Club Edit At the end of 2002 Pagan was appointed senior coach of the Carlton Football Club replacing Wayne Brittain after Brittain was sacked when Carlton under Brittain finished sixteenth last on the ladder position for the wooden spoon in the 2002 season 17 Brittain had a year remaining on his contract and was paid out by the club Pagan s attempt to rebuild the side was not helped by the fact the club had been hit with salary cap breaches which prevented the club from rebuilding its playing list in the short term 18 As a result of these penalties in Pagan s first season as Carlton Football Club senior coach in the 2003 season Carlton under Pagan endured another unsuccessful season finishing fifteenth second last on the ladder with four wins and eighteen losses 19 Employing a recycled player policy in an attempt to rebuild the team for the 2004 season where Pagan led Carlton to eleventh on the ladder with ten wins and twelve losses which was Carlton s highest placing under Pagan and carried this into a pre season premiership in the 2005 Wizard Cup 20 However this proved to be a false dawn when Carlton under Pagan ended up receiving two consecutive wooden spoons in the 2005 season with four wins one draw and seventeen losses and in the 2006 season with three wins one draw and eighteen losses 21 There were talks that he may have been sacked at this point 22 however it was decided to extend his contract until the end of the 2008 season 23 24 Carlton under Pagan did not improve much in the 2007 season sitting at fourteenth on the ladder after Round 16 2007 with four wins and twelve losses Between Rounds 12 and 16 Carlton suffered five consecutive heavy defeats the last of which was a 117 point defeat against the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba in Round 16 2007 in which Lions full forward and Coleman Medallist Jonathan Brown kicked a club record 10 goals and earned three Brownlow Medal votes 25 It proved to be the nail in the coffin for Pagan and his job and Pagan was sacked as Carlton Football Club senior coach the following day on 23 July 2007 26 27 He was not bitter at the club s decision and wanted to go on record that he would never have quit as the coach of the Carlton Football Club Pagan was replaced by assistant coach Brett Ratten as caretaker senior coach for the remainder of the 2007 season who was eventually appointed full time senior coach of Carlton 28 29 Pagan had a year to go on his contract which was paid out in full by the club Years later in 2014 Pagan later stated in the Sydney Morning Herald newspaper that coaching Carlton was a very difficult assignment also taking into consideration the fact that the club had lost valuable draft picks in the wake of the salary cap breaches 30 In 2021 Pagan in a radio interview with SEN described his tenure as senior coach of Carlton as a snake pit because of Divisions and disunity at the club that he experienced 31 32 In 2022 Pagan further elaborated by stating When I was at Carlton I don t think I ve ever seen a bigger mess It was like going to work every day and a little bloke hiding behind the door with a sledgehammer and whacking you around the chin They didn t have a great list they didn t have any money the place was in turmoil there was factions and splits everywhere It was a great club and it just disintegrated It was the biggest regret without any doubt whatsoever 33 Post coaching career EditIn 2008 Pagan became a board member at North Melbourne Football Club 34 however after the 2008 season he left the position to coach the Northern Knights in the TAC under 18s competition for one season only and he has since had no involvement in football Since 2009 he runs Pagan real estate alongside his son Ryan 35 Since 2020 he has been a horse trainer going on to win the Victoria Derby with his horse Johnny Get Angry Legacy and reception EditPagan has been described as a meticulous planner an inspirational leader of men and for the relentless pursuit of excellence 36 Beyond dispute is the indelible mark Pagan has left on the game of Australian football He ranks 16th on the list of most senior VFL AFL games coached and a two time premiership coach 37 Pagan s coaching philosophies have also been described as being based upon communication teaching people management and leadership 38 In 2018 Pagan was inducted as coaching legend in the AFL Coaches Association awards in recognition of the significant achievement and excellence over his time of a former AFL coach 39 40 41 Former North Melbourne captain Wayne Carey who played under Pagan in Pagan s tenure as senior coach of North Melbourne described Pagan as the man to turn the place around where He d clean the place out and under Pagan players would have a go if they didn t have a go they wouldn t be in the side He d tell you how it is he d tell everyone within the club where they re at It s hard nosed basic training 42 Former North Melbourne and Carlton player Corey McKernan who played under Pagan in both Pagan s tenures as senior coach of North Melbourne and Carlton both praised and was critical of Pagan where Pagan was famously tough on his players and it wore McKernan down over the years stating he and Pagan had a deep respect but by the end it was a non working relationship furthermore there was an enormous amount of respect for Pagan but at the end of the day it wasn t getting the best out of one another and I wasn t enjoying my football and wasn t enjoying the environment that we were playing in and Our relationship didn t work in the end but trust me for the stuff we did together I am incredibly grateful and I think of the habits Denis has taught me 43 Former Carlton Football Club Captain Anthony Koutoufides who played under Pagan in Pagan s tenure as senior coach of Carlton was critical of Pagan by stating he was unfair on players and had an outdated game plan which the players did not believe in 44 Former North Melbourne player Adam Simpson who played under Pagan in Pagan s tenure as senior coach of North Melbourne praised Pagan by stating What I wanted to do was just prove myself to Denis that I was a good player that I could handle whatever he put in front of me it didn t take a lot to get the best out of me because I just wanted to please him 45 Former North Melbourne player John Longmire who played under Pagan in Pagan s tenure as senior coach of North Melbourne praised Pagan by stating He got the best out of his players because he knew which players to push and push in some instances really hard But also which players to put an arm around and when 46 Legendary AFL coach Mick Malthouse has also praised Pagan by stating I had a great respect for Denis capabilities as a coach From a distance probably his greatest strength was that he had no fear 47 Statistics EditPlaying statistics Edit 48 Legend G Goals K Kicks D Disposals T Tackles B Behinds H Handballs M MarksSeason Team No Games Totals Averages per game G B K H D M T G B K H D M T1967 North Melbourne 45 7 2 5 55 1 56 11 0 3 0 7 7 9 0 1 8 0 1 6 1968 North Melbourne 26 16 3 4 243 8 251 53 0 2 0 3 15 2 0 5 15 7 3 3 1969 North Melbourne 17 19 0 0 295 10 305 69 0 0 0 0 15 5 0 5 16 1 3 6 1970 North Melbourne 17 17 0 0 274 20 294 63 0 0 0 0 16 1 1 2 17 3 3 7 1971 North Melbourne 17 16 0 0 278 20 298 65 0 0 0 0 17 4 1 3 18 6 4 1 1972 North Melbourne 17 18 0 0 280 13 293 66 0 0 0 0 15 6 0 7 16 3 3 7 1973 North Melbourne 17 12 0 0 146 13 159 22 0 0 0 0 12 2 1 1 13 3 1 8 1974 North Melbourne 17 15 0 0 171 19 190 17 0 0 0 0 11 4 1 3 12 7 1 1 1975 South Melbourne 6 7 0 0 77 7 84 10 0 0 0 0 12 8 1 2 14 0 1 7 1976 South Melbourne 6 16 0 0 165 24 189 27 0 0 0 0 10 3 1 5 11 8 1 7 Career 143 5 9 1984 135 2119 403 0 0 0 1 14 0 1 0 14 9 2 8 Coaching statistics Edit 49 Legend W Wins L Losses D Draws W Winning percentage LP Ladder position LT League teamsSeason Team Games W L D W LP LT1993 North Melbourne 21 13 8 0 61 9 3 151994 North Melbourne 24 14 10 0 58 3 3 151995 North Melbourne 25 16 9 0 64 0 6 161996 North Melbourne 25 19 6 0 76 0 2 161997 North Melbourne 25 14 11 0 56 0 7 161998 North Melbourne 25 18 7 0 72 0 1 161999 Kangaroos 25 20 5 0 80 0 2 162000 Kangaroos 25 15 10 0 60 0 4 162001 Kangaroos 22 9 13 0 40 9 13 162002 Kangaroos 23 12 11 0 52 2 7 162003 Carlton 22 4 18 0 18 2 15 162004 Carlton 22 10 12 0 45 5 11 162005 Carlton 22 4 17 1 20 5 16 162006 Carlton 22 3 18 1 15 9 16 162007 Carlton 16 4 12 0 25 0 15 16Career totals 344 175 167 2 51 2 References Edit DENIS PAGAN Retrieved 21 April 2022 DENIS PAGAN Retrieved 21 April 2022 DENIS PAGAN Retrieved 21 April 2022 Bonnet jnr a senior The Age Melbourne VIC 18 April 1978 p 28 DENIS PAGAN Retrieved 21 April 2022 Marc Fiddian 5 September 1980 Semi finalists make changes The Age Melbourne VIC p 23 Ray Jordon 29 September 1991 Pagan s record deserves tribute The Sunday Herald Sun Melbourne VIC p 34 Robert Fedele 24 September 2013 Profile Denis Pagan has no plans for the paddock The Weekly Review Moonee Valley Archived from the original on 2 June 2014 Retrieved 1 June 2014 DENIS PAGAN Retrieved 21 April 2022 NMFC Archives How Pagan became coach 4 August 2014 Retrieved 21 April 2022 The evolution of Pagan s Paddock Ricky Mangidis North Melbourne Football Club official site August 13 2015 DENIS PAGAN Retrieved 21 April 2022 DENIS PAGAN Retrieved 21 April 2022 Pagan resigns as Kangaroos coach 11 September 2002 Retrieved 21 April 2022 Pagan leaves powerful imprint on Kangaroos 12 September 2002 Retrieved 21 April 2022 Laidley confirmed as Roos new coach 2 October 2002 Retrieved 30 September 2022 Pagan joins Carlton in 2 4m deal 12 September 2002 Retrieved 26 November 2021 Sacked podcast Denis Pagan on the mess he inherited at Carlton the cap rort and Wayne Jackson 29 August 2020 Retrieved 15 December 2021 Sacked podcast Denis Pagan on the mess he inherited at Carlton the cap rort and Wayne Jackson 29 August 2020 Retrieved 15 December 2021 Denis Pagan Retrieved 21 April 2022 Denis Pagan Retrieved 21 April 2022 Pagan s future up in the air 5 September 2006 Retrieved 16 November 2022 Pagan to stay on as Carlton coach 7 September 2006 Retrieved 25 February 2022 Players immune to crisis Pagan Retrieved 13 May 2022 TBT Browny s 10 goal haul Brisbane Lions 18 May 2017 Retrieved 4 June 2019 Carlton sacks coach Denis Pagan Official AFL Website of the Carlton Football Club Archived 18 September 2007 at the Wayback Machine Blues part ways with Pagan 23 July 2007 Retrieved 8 December 2021 Ratten appointed Blues caretaker coach 24 July 2007 Retrieved 8 December 2021 Carlton have a long history of sacking coaches in dramatic circumstances 26 May 2015 Retrieved 18 December 2021 Denis Pagan s message to Paul Roos Stay positive Sydney Morning Herald 4 April 2014 IT WAS A SNAKE PIT EX COACH HIGHLIGHTS CARLTON S BIGGEST PROBLEM 10 September 2021 Retrieved 16 November 2022 Former Carlton coach Denis Pagan s damning snake pit claim 10 September 2021 Retrieved 16 November 2022 Virtually a snakepit AFL legend Denis Pagan says decision to coach Carlton his biggest regret 28 August 2022 Retrieved 16 November 2022 Pagan in Kangaroos return Retrieved 21 April 2022 Pagan Real Estate Home Retrieved 1 February 2017 About Denis Pagan Retrieved 16 November 2022 About Denis Pagan Retrieved 16 November 2022 About Denis Pagan Retrieved 16 November 2022 Pagan inducted as coaching legend 25 September 2018 Retrieved 16 November 2022 AFLCA Coaching Legend Retrieved 16 November 2022 Episode 5 Denis Pagan Retrieved 16 November 2022 Former North Melbourne great Wayne Carey says Denis Pagan can turn Melbourne around 27 May 2013 Retrieved 16 November 2022 Sacked podcast 2022 Corey McKernan s troubled relationship with Denis Pagan 30 April 2022 Retrieved 16 November 2022 Pagan knew of Carlton plot to sack him 26 October 2007 Retrieved 16 November 2022 Pagan s legend status 25 September 2018 Retrieved 17 November 2022 Pagan s legend status 25 September 2018 Retrieved 17 November 2022 Pagan s legend status 25 September 2018 Retrieved 17 November 2022 AFL Tables Denis Pagan Stats Statistics Retrieved 1 February 2017 AFL Tables Denis Pagan Coaching Record Retrieved 1 February 2017 Retrieved from https 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