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David Hurles

David Randolph Hurles (September 12, 1944 – April 12, 2023) was an American gay pornographer, whose one-man company, run from a private mailbox, was called Old Reliable Tape and Picture Company. His work, produced primarily in the 1970s and 1980s, falls into three categories: photographs, audio tapes, and videotapes. Hurles' models were typically ex-convicts, hustlers, drifters, and ne'er do wells. Hurles died on April 12, 2023, at the age of 78.[1]

Hurles in 1972

Early years edit

Hurles was born on September 12, 1944, in Cincinnati, Ohio.[2]

In the 1960s, Hurles appeared in movies and magazines, with Guild Press, Washington D.C., for whom he was also a photographer.[3][4]: 59 

In 1975, already filming in Super-8 format used by his mentor and long-time friend Bob Mizer of Athletic Model Guild, he met and became a great friend of Jack Fritscher, editor of Drummer magazine, who described David as "my longtime pal and housemate".[5][6] The character Solly Blue in Fritscher's novel Some Dance to Remember has much in common with Hurles,[7] but while they share "archetypal coincidental adventures", Fritscher has denied that Blue is based on Hurles.

Hurles wrote of San Francisco at the time: "Perhaps you had to be there...the 70's, San Francisco, the blossoming and peak of the gay sexual culture. It was a rare time; everything, it seemed, was perfect. So perfect, in fact, that those of us there could not have possibly imagined it might ever be otherwise!"[8] Jim Stewart describes his encounter with Hurles, the neighborhood they both lived in, and the birth of the name Old Reliable in the first chapter of his Folsom Street Blues.[9]

His first published pictures appeared in Drummer, 21 (January 1978);[4]: 293  no other magazine would touch them.[4]: 59  He also shot many covers and centerfolds for Fritscher's zine Man2Man Quarterly (1980–1982),[4]: 59  whose mailing address was Hurles' San Francisco apartment.[10] Subsequently, Hurles' photos appeared in dozens of gay magazines. He moved to Los Angeles shortly thereafter.

Old Reliable edit

In 1990, Hurles issued a catalogue of his Old Reliable material, a guide to nearly five hundred men and the hundreds of original Old Reliable Video Tapes, as well as the audio cassettes and photos in which the men appear (56 pp.).[11] In 1995, a second volume was published, taking up where the first one left off, also "a guide to nearly 500 men" (64 pp.).[12]

Models were recruited among ex-convicts and drug addicts. As put by admirer John Waters, "David likes psychos. Nude ones. Money-hungry drug addicts with big dicks. Rage-filled robbers without rubbers. And of course, convicts."[13]: 236  Many of them were dangerous—he wanted them to be, that was a key part of their attractiveness for him[14]—but part of David's skill, which no one since has duplicated, was being able to manage them so that they would perform as instructed and not attack him. However, Hurles also said: "There have been several thousand models. When they are not in prison, or very married, it has been my practice to stay in touch with many of them, often over decades. They are my friends."[15] On another occasion he said that one of the hardest parts of his job was not getting caught up in the miserable lives of his models.

Although he did not publicize it, sometimes Hurles' models were more mainstream gay pornographic actors. Scott O'Hara made a tape for him, as did Peter O'Brien.[16]

Photographs edit

Hurles chose to downplay technical fireworks with his camera in order to focus on the emotional pyrotechnics of his models.[17] His models, picked up on the street or sent to him by referral, would come to his apartment, get naked, and masturbate. Usually they were shot solo, and with an erection; the amount paid depended on "the size of your dick and whether you could get it up in front of the camera."[18]: 112  They were distinguished by "attitude" - straight, in your face, angry, contemptuous of fags, dangerous, smoking cigars, giving the finger, flexing their biceps. "Rough trade is too tame a word", was the description of John Calendo.[19] Getting robbed by his models, or having his equipment stolen, he viewed as part of the cost of doing business. His photographs may most easily be consulted in two collections: Speeding, in black and white,[18] then in color Outcast,[20] and to a lesser extent in The Big Penis Book.[21]

Hurles printed his pictures in his own darkroom, and filled all orders single-handedly.

Hurles' pictures have been reproduced repeatedly without his permission and without compensation to him. They are used, with permission, as illustrations in two collections of Boyd McDonald's Straight to Hell: The New York Review of Cocksucking material: Meat[22] and Skin.[23][24] Hurles described McDonald as "the kindest person," who "gave me such encouragement."[24]

Audio tapes (cassettes) edit

Besides paying for modeling, Hurles paid many of his models to talk, while alone in a room with the door closed, into an ordinary cassette recorder, typically on how they would like to mistreat gay men. In many cases he would go on to record a second audio tape in which he sexually serviced the models. Behind the bravado and aggression of the models there sometimes come through haunting overtones of the fact of their failure in life and their awareness of it. There also comes through, at times, their bewildered, demasculinized admiration of Hurles' enthusiasm for sex, for being the bottom, paying to fellate them, paying them to masturbate, buying their orgasms, which feel disturbingly good, although they see themselves as straight. Other models, however, are not threatened at all; they find it enjoyable to exploit Hurles for cash and sex, and "a hole's a hole". Some of the models were openly bisexual or gay, but David preferred straight models.

He released over four hundred of these tapes of verbal sexual abuse.[13]: 221  He has "always felt his audiotapes were his finest achievement."[25] Five CDs of selected recordings have been released by Bijou Video.[26]

Videotapes edit

With the arrival of home video recording equipment around 1980, David began creating videotapes, eventually releasing over three hundred of them. Most were solos, but some were boxing or wrestling among two of his models.[27] Four volumes of "The Best of Old Reliable," plus Tape 43 (Five Days with Phil) and 51 (I, Rick), are available from Ray Dragon Video.[28] The same two, plus four additional D.V.D.s transferred from Old Reliable tapes, are available from Bijou Video: 32 (Hairy Guys), 38 (Arkansas Luggage), 56 (Basic Black #5), and 82 (Boxing 1).[29] Others are available as video-on-demand from Bijou Video; besides the ones just mentioned, these are 25 (Perfect Me), 47 (Men Worth Watching), 49 (Sizzling Solos), 154 (Innocence Explains Nothing), 211 (Ace Is The Place), 269 (Just As They Are), and 277 (Some Old Friends).[30] The first page of a Bijou catalog from 2004, listing 326 no-longer-available V.H.S. tapes and cassette tapes, has been archived.[citation needed] Another former catalog has been archived on the Wayback Machine.[31] Some of his videos are available (2018) at http://raydragonvideo.com.

Writing edit

Hurles and Fritscher co-authored an interview with "Scott Smith", an ex-convict from Soledad Prison.[32]

Hurles wrote an introduction: "A Thousand Light Years Ago: Drummer", to Gay San Francisco: Eyewitness Drummer, Volume 1. A Memoir of the Sex, Art, Salon, Pop Culture War, and Gay History of Drummer Magazine.[33]

Hurles' memoirs, drafted in 1992 as No Title Necessary: A Few Notes, Comments, and Observations, have not been published.[34]

Later years edit

An accident in 1990 led to the gradual loss of eyesight in one eye.[13]: 219  Shortly thereafter, the arrival of pornography on the Internet destroyed most of the market for Hurles' material, at the same time that AIDS (and drugs) killed many models and potential models.[13]: 226  "I know where a great many of them [my models] are. Six feet under".[13]: 224  His company folded, and he lived on welfare and food stamps. In 2008 he had a massive stroke, and more recently "is the most popular resident of a state-funded nursing home in East Hollywood".[35]

Influence edit

John Waters declared himself influenced by Hurles, and dedicated to him part of a chapter in his Role Models, stating that "The wonderful, beautiful, scary life of David Hurles has been an inspiration to my inner filth for years". According to him, "David Hurles's photographs forever scarred some gay men's ability to be attracted to another average gay men. Without these pioneering Old Reliable photographs, homoeroticism in the art world couldn't have existed. Robert Mapplethorpe was a pussy. Mr. Hurles is the real thing.”[36] With Dian Hanson, John Waters curated an exhibition of David Hurles' photos, "Outsider Porn: The Photos of David Hurles," at the Marianne Boesky gallery in New York, June 4–25, 2010.[37] Another exhibit, "Straight to Hell Presents: In Cock We Trust", was presented in 2008 at the Berlin art gallery Exile.[38]

Sex-positive feminist Susie Bright has also declared herself a fan of Hurles.[39]

His friend Dian Hanson, who manages his financial affairs and the Old Reliable archive, described him as an "intelligent, funny, mild mannered guy who studied his models the way I’d studied my readers all the years I worked making men’s magazines. David is a true intellectual, a psychological hobbyist, and even more interesting as a person than he is as a photographer. He says we’re “simpatico”, and that seems the best description for the way we clicked immediately, sharing a taste in men and in exploring the intricacies of human psychology and sexual attraction.”[40]

Archival material edit

ONE National Gay & Lesbian Archives, USC Libraries, University of Southern California, has VHS videotapes of a nine-part interview conducted from August 18 to December 29, 1998, and 6 compact audiocassette tapes of what appears to be a four-part interview conducted on January 12, 1999. The collection also contains two compilation CD-ROMs, copyright 1998, of Old Reliable photographs: "As Seen from the Rear ... the Butt CD!" and "Sometimes a Cigar is Just a Cigar!" The interviews were conducted by Pat Allen, with the assistance of Bill Wyman.[41]

See also edit

References edit

  1. ^ "Legendary gay pornographer David Hurles dies". Bay Area Reporter. Retrieved 2023-04-13.
  2. ^ Padgett, Donald. "Legendary Gay Pornographer David Hurles Dies at 78". The Advocate. Retrieved April 14, 2023.
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  4. ^ a b c d Fritscher, Jack (2008). "Untitled biographical sketch of Hurles". Gay San Francisco: Eyewitness Drummer: a Memoir of the Sex, Art, Salon, Pop Culture War, and Gay History of "Drummer" Magazine, The Titanic 1970s to 1999 (PDF). Vol. 1. Palm Drive Publishing. ISBN 978-1890834388. (PDF) from the original on September 10, 2017. Retrieved December 26, 2018.
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  6. ^ Fritscher, Jack (September 1982). "Introduction to "Old Reliable: A legend in his own time. The Photographer whose Boys made Drummer Fresh...and Scary!"". California Action Guide. Vol. 1, no. 3. from the original on September 10, 2017. Retrieved December 26, 2018. Interview recorded in Hollywood, June 1982, and published in the California Action Guide, Volume 1 #3, September 1982
  7. ^ Van Leer, David (2010). "Introduction". Some Dance to Remember: A Memoir-Novel of San Francisco 1970-1982. Palm Drive Publishing. p. xxi. ISBN 978-1890834265. Retrieved December 26, 2018.
  8. ^ Hurles, David (June 19, 2000). "Fritscher's masterpiece, savour this time now gone (review of the 1990 edition of Fritscher's Some Dance to Remember)". Amazon. from the original on July 4, 2021. Retrieved December 26, 2018.
  9. ^ Stewart, Jim (2011). Folsom Street Blues: A Memoir of 1970s SoMa and Leatherfolk in Gay San Francisco. Palm Drive Publishing. ISBN 978-1890834036.
  10. ^ Fritscher, Jack (2008). "Virtual Drummer. How Drummer Influenced Other Magazines and Publishers". (PDF). Palm Drive Publishing. Archived from the original (PDF) on September 3, 2014.
  11. ^ The Old Reliable Catalogue (Comes with Colt Photo set of 1 5x7 Black & White Photo and 1 5x7 Color Photo and a color slide from their collection in special envelope.). Old Reliable. 1990. from the original on 2021-07-04. Retrieved 2014-08-26.
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David Randolph Hurles September 12 1944 April 12 2023 was an American gay pornographer whose one man company run from a private mailbox was called Old Reliable Tape and Picture Company His work produced primarily in the 1970s and 1980s falls into three categories photographs audio tapes and videotapes Hurles models were typically ex convicts hustlers drifters and ne er do wells Hurles died on April 12 2023 at the age of 78 1 Hurles in 1972 Contents 1 Early years 2 Old Reliable 2 1 Photographs 2 2 Audio tapes cassettes 2 3 Videotapes 3 Writing 4 Later years 5 Influence 6 Archival material 7 See also 8 ReferencesEarly years editHurles was born on September 12 1944 in Cincinnati Ohio 2 In the 1960s Hurles appeared in movies and magazines with Guild Press Washington D C for whom he was also a photographer 3 4 59 In 1975 already filming in Super 8 format used by his mentor and long time friend Bob Mizer of Athletic Model Guild he met and became a great friend of Jack Fritscher editor of Drummer magazine who described David as my longtime pal and housemate 5 6 The character Solly Blue in Fritscher s novel Some Dance to Remember has much in common with Hurles 7 but while they share archetypal coincidental adventures Fritscher has denied that Blue is based on Hurles Hurles wrote of San Francisco at the time Perhaps you had to be there the 70 s San Francisco the blossoming and peak of the gay sexual culture It was a rare time everything it seemed was perfect So perfect in fact that those of us there could not have possibly imagined it might ever be otherwise 8 Jim Stewart describes his encounter with Hurles the neighborhood they both lived in and the birth of the name Old Reliable in the first chapter of his Folsom Street Blues 9 His first published pictures appeared in Drummer 21 January 1978 4 293 no other magazine would touch them 4 59 He also shot many covers and centerfolds for Fritscher s zine Man2Man Quarterly 1980 1982 4 59 whose mailing address was Hurles San Francisco apartment 10 Subsequently Hurles photos appeared in dozens of gay magazines He moved to Los Angeles shortly thereafter Old Reliable editIn 1990 Hurles issued a catalogue of his Old Reliable material a guide to nearly five hundred men and the hundreds of original Old Reliable Video Tapes as well as the audio cassettes and photos in which the men appear 56 pp 11 In 1995 a second volume was published taking up where the first one left off also a guide to nearly 500 men 64 pp 12 Models were recruited among ex convicts and drug addicts As put by admirer John Waters David likes psychos Nude ones Money hungry drug addicts with big dicks Rage filled robbers without rubbers And of course convicts 13 236 Many of them were dangerous he wanted them to be that was a key part of their attractiveness for him 14 but part of David s skill which no one since has duplicated was being able to manage them so that they would perform as instructed and not attack him However Hurles also said There have been several thousand models When they are not in prison or very married it has been my practice to stay in touch with many of them often over decades They are my friends 15 On another occasion he said that one of the hardest parts of his job was not getting caught up in the miserable lives of his models Although he did not publicize it sometimes Hurles models were more mainstream gay pornographic actors Scott O Hara made a tape for him as did Peter O Brien 16 Photographs edit Hurles chose to downplay technical fireworks with his camera in order to focus on the emotional pyrotechnics of his models 17 His models picked up on the street or sent to him by referral would come to his apartment get naked and masturbate Usually they were shot solo and with an erection the amount paid depended on the size of your dick and whether you could get it up in front of the camera 18 112 They were distinguished by attitude straight in your face angry contemptuous of fags dangerous smoking cigars giving the finger flexing their biceps Rough trade is too tame a word was the description of John Calendo 19 Getting robbed by his models or having his equipment stolen he viewed as part of the cost of doing business His photographs may most easily be consulted in two collections Speeding in black and white 18 then in color Outcast 20 and to a lesser extent in The Big Penis Book 21 Hurles printed his pictures in his own darkroom and filled all orders single handedly Hurles pictures have been reproduced repeatedly without his permission and without compensation to him They are used with permission as illustrations in two collections of Boyd McDonald s Straight to Hell The New York Review of Cocksucking material Meat 22 and Skin 23 24 Hurles described McDonald as the kindest person who gave me such encouragement 24 Audio tapes cassettes edit Besides paying for modeling Hurles paid many of his models to talk while alone in a room with the door closed into an ordinary cassette recorder typically on how they would like to mistreat gay men In many cases he would go on to record a second audio tape in which he sexually serviced the models Behind the bravado and aggression of the models there sometimes come through haunting overtones of the fact of their failure in life and their awareness of it There also comes through at times their bewildered demasculinized admiration of Hurles enthusiasm for sex for being the bottom paying to fellate them paying them to masturbate buying their orgasms which feel disturbingly good although they see themselves as straight Other models however are not threatened at all they find it enjoyable to exploit Hurles for cash and sex and a hole s a hole Some of the models were openly bisexual or gay but David preferred straight models He released over four hundred of these tapes of verbal sexual abuse 13 221 He has always felt his audiotapes were his finest achievement 25 Five CDs of selected recordings have been released by Bijou Video 26 Videotapes edit With the arrival of home video recording equipment around 1980 David began creating videotapes eventually releasing over three hundred of them Most were solos but some were boxing or wrestling among two of his models 27 Four volumes of The Best of Old Reliable plus Tape 43 Five Days with Phil and 51 I Rick are available from Ray Dragon Video 28 The same two plus four additional D V D s transferred from Old Reliable tapes are available from Bijou Video 32 Hairy Guys 38 Arkansas Luggage 56 Basic Black 5 and 82 Boxing 1 29 Others are available as video on demand from Bijou Video besides the ones just mentioned these are 25 Perfect Me 47 Men Worth Watching 49 Sizzling Solos 154 Innocence Explains Nothing 211 Ace Is The Place 269 Just As They Are and 277 Some Old Friends 30 The first page of a Bijou catalog from 2004 listing 326 no longer available V H S tapes and cassette tapes has been archived citation needed Another former catalog has been archived on the Wayback Machine 31 Some of his videos are available 2018 at http raydragonvideo com Writing editHurles and Fritscher co authored an interview with Scott Smith an ex convict from Soledad Prison 32 Hurles wrote an introduction A Thousand Light Years Ago Drummer to Gay San Francisco EyewitnessDrummer Volume 1 A Memoir of the Sex Art Salon Pop Culture War and Gay History of Drummer Magazine 33 Hurles memoirs drafted in 1992 as No Title Necessary A Few Notes Comments and Observations have not been published 34 Later years editAn accident in 1990 led to the gradual loss of eyesight in one eye 13 219 Shortly thereafter the arrival of pornography on the Internet destroyed most of the market for Hurles material at the same time that AIDS and drugs killed many models and potential models 13 226 I know where a great many of them my models are Six feet under 13 224 His company folded and he lived on welfare and food stamps In 2008 he had a massive stroke and more recently is the most popular resident of a state funded nursing home in East Hollywood 35 Influence editJohn Waters declared himself influenced by Hurles and dedicated to him part of a chapter in his Role Models stating that The wonderful beautiful scary life of David Hurles has been an inspiration to my inner filth for years According to him David Hurles s photographs forever scarred some gay men s ability to be attracted to another average gay men Without these pioneering Old Reliable photographs homoeroticism in the art world couldn t have existed Robert Mapplethorpe was a pussy Mr Hurles is the real thing 36 With Dian Hanson John Waters curated an exhibition of David Hurles photos Outsider Porn The Photos of David Hurles at the Marianne Boesky gallery in New York June 4 25 2010 37 Another exhibit Straight to Hell Presents In Cock We Trust was presented in 2008 at the Berlin art gallery Exile 38 Sex positive feminist Susie Bright has also declared herself a fan of Hurles 39 His friend Dian Hanson who manages his financial affairs and the Old Reliable archive described him as an intelligent funny mild mannered guy who studied his models the way I d studied my readers all the years I worked making men s magazines David is a true intellectual a psychological hobbyist and even more interesting as a person than he is as a photographer He says we re simpatico and that seems the best description for the way we clicked immediately sharing a taste in men and in exploring the intricacies of human psychology and sexual attraction 40 Archival material editONE National Gay amp Lesbian Archives USC Libraries University of Southern California has VHS videotapes of a nine part interview conducted from August 18 to December 29 1998 and 6 compact audiocassette tapes of what appears to be a four part interview conducted on January 12 1999 The collection also contains two compilation CD ROMs copyright 1998 of Old Reliable photographs As Seen from the Rear the Butt CD and Sometimes a Cigar is Just a Cigar The interviews were conducted by Pat Allen with the assistance of Bill Wyman 41 See also editBoyd McDonald pornographer References edit Legendary gay pornographer David Hurles dies Bay Area Reporter Retrieved 2023 04 13 Padgett Donald Legendary Gay Pornographer David Hurles Dies at 78 The Advocate Retrieved April 14 2023 Fritscher Jack September 1982 Old Reliable A legend in his own time The Photographer whose Boys made Drummer Fresh and Scary interview with Hurles California Action Guide Vol 1 no 3 Archived from the original on September 10 2017 Retrieved December 26 2018 a b c d Fritscher Jack 2008 Untitled biographical sketch of Hurles Gay San Francisco Eyewitness Drummer a Memoir of the Sex Art Salon Pop Culture War and Gay History of Drummer Magazine The Titanic 1970s to 1999 PDF Vol 1 Palm Drive Publishing ISBN 978 1890834388 Archived PDF from the original on September 10 2017 Retrieved December 26 2018 Fritscher Jack May 1978 Review of End Product The First Taboo Drummer No 22 Archived from the 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