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Circus Animals

Circus Animals is the fourth studio album by Australian band Cold Chisel, released on 8 March 1982. It was recorded and mixed at Paradise Studios and EMI Studios 301, Sydney, between September and December 1981.[1] It reached number one on the Australian charts, remaining in the charts for 40 weeks,[2] and also topped the New Zealand charts.[3] The working title for the album was "Tunnel Cunts".[4]

Circus Animals
Studio album by
Released8 March 1982
RecordedSeptember–December 1981
StudioParadise (Sydney), Studios 301 (Sydney)
GenrePub rock
Length44:20
LabelWEA Records
ProducerMark Opitz, Cold Chisel
Cold Chisel chronology
Swingshift
(1981)
Circus Animals
(1982)
Northbound
(1983)
Singles from Circus Animals
  1. "You Got Nothing I Want"
    Released: November 1981
  2. "Forever Now"
    Released: March 1982
  3. "When the War Is Over"
    Released: July 1982

At the 1982 Countdown Music Awards, the album was nominated for Best Australian Album.[5][6]

Album details edit

Many of the album's songs were written as a direct reaction to the pop success of the band's previous LP East and feature unusual, experimental arrangements. Singer Barnes said, "the whole band, particularly Don, decided to revolt against the pop formula when we made Circus Animals."[7] Walker said, "There was no way of improving what we'd done on East, so we had to think of new things to try."[8] Elsewhere, he added, "If we’d taken those same set of lessons and applied them to the same sort of record it would’ve got more slick and lost the spontaneity. The only way to remain fresh is to smash all those rules, go back and start something else. Maybe bring that to fruition or maybe you’ll fail."[9] Barnes noted, "It's not way out, not ridiculously experimental. It's all been done before, just not by us."[10]

The "new sound" was described as, "made up of greater rhythmic diversity, looser song structures, that [were] less constricting for live performances"[10] Critics noticed that the, "intricate drum patterns imposed a heavy bottom-end groove."[7] Walker said, "Steve and I were doing a lot of experimenting in the studio with rhythms based on toms- just big tom sounds repeated over and over again. So that turned up on "Taipan", "Numbers Fall" and "Wild Colonial Boy"."[11] In the lead up to the recording, the band was playing concerts in pubs and clubs in regional centres such as Wollongong and Newcastle. Band members were encouraged to improvise and change song structures. Barnes said, "It was a really loose free-form thing. We were developing and changing the songs every night to suit the atmosphere we were in."[7] Walker noted, "A song like "Taipan" you can do just about anything you like and it won't fall apart."[12]

Producer Opitz said of the band's reaction to East, "Don came to me six months later and said, “I never want to have another commercial album again.” Which I thought was really funny, because what the fuck? Don said he didn’t want to do another commercial album, but thank God for Steve Prestwich."[13] Walker said, "With Steve demoing such melodic songs - it didn't matter what we did to them, they were going to be extremely melodic, accessible songs - I felt no pressure to write commercial. I didn't try to write singles, tight arrangements or anything. I had a bit of an indulge."[11] Barnes added, "Immediately we had success, Don went dark."[14]

Lyrically, Walker said, "In the space of 18 months with bits of pieces of tape and stray lines there were maybe three or four things I was writing about. Obviously there's something which has been obsessing me about taking chances or not, although I didn't realise it at the time it was worrying me."[12]

The first single "You Got Nothing I Want" was written by singer Jimmy Barnes about the lack of interest shown in them by their American label rep during the band's 1981 US tour. "Bow River" was a song by guitarist Ian Moss, written about a sheep station in the Northern Territory where his brother Peter had once worked. The song was included as the B-side to the Australian version of the single for Forever Now[15] but proved so popular that it was often played on radio in its own right. "When the War Is Over" was written by drummer Steve Prestwich and has been covered numerous times by Little River Band, John Farnham, Uriah Heep, Cosima De Vito and Something for Kate. "Letter to Alan" was dedicated to a former member of the band's road crew, Alan Dallow, who died in a truck accident.

Mark Opitz later said, "We were doing a mountain of coke during the Circus Animals sessions. We would do monster lines of coke and then the band members would go in to do their parts. I remember one time my head turned into a helicopter and I was about to lift off and go through the control room roof."[16]

The album cover was shot by Peter Levy. Barnes said, "This caravan we towed out to Lake Eyre for the photo shoot and when we finished, we left it there. It was about 40 degrees, it was brutal."[17] Don Walker said of the location, "I wanted something that was Australian and couldn't be mistaken for anywhere else. A wide flat space with a caravan on it."[10]

Five of the album's ten songs were later covered for the 2007 tribute album Standing on the Outside: "You Got Nothing I Want" (Alex Lloyd), "Bow River" (Troy Cassar-Daley), "Forever Now" (Pete Murray), "Houndog" (You Am I) and "When the War is Over" (Something for Kate).

On Friday 22 July 2011, all of Cold Chisel's albums were re-released as remastered 'Collector's Editions'. They became available for iTunes download for the very first time. The album re-entered the Australian charts for one week, at number 46.[3]

Reception edit

Professional ratings
Review scores
SourceRating
Allmusic     [18]

Circus Animals was listed at No. 4 in the book, 100 Best Australian Albums, in October 2010.[7] In 2011, it was voted the 75th greatest Australian album by industry pundits at Triple J.[19] Juice magazine rated it the 17th greatest album of all time.[20]

Adrian Zupp gave the album a rating of four and a half out of five at allmusic. He described it as, "A ten-song stew of the band's signature guitar-and-piano-driven ballads and rockers [that] further confirmed Chisel's depth and breadth as a creative unit." He went on to describe the highlights as, ""Houndog", a gripping, grueling riff-fest road song; the strip-club, tom-tom beat of the slinky "Numbers Fall"; the bent-halo ballad "When the War Is Over"; and the coup de grâce, the coke-frenzy-rock of the mini-epic "Letter To Alan"."[18]

Critic Toby Creswell described Circus Animals as, "a really extraordinary piece of work, as though John Steinbeck, Henry Lawson, Manning Clarke and Jerry Lee Lewis formed a band." He went on to single out "Wild Colonial Boy", "because it so brilliantly encapsulated the Australian experience," and "Houndog", "because it has a completely mad structure but it too goes to the heart of the Australian wanderlust."[21] Roadrunner claimed the band, "revel in their Australianness, and seem to capture a lot of the hard edge of this country."[22]

The Age also gave a positive review, saying, "I regarded Cold Chisel as over-rated when they first hit the scene with a splash, but they have established themselves as a consistent, powerful outfit, with strong instrumentals, vocals and writing. All these qualities have come together on Circus Animals, for the first time."[23]

Given an "A" rating in Canada's Windsor Star, the reviewer noted, "This is heavy metal at its painful best. Jim Barnes screams like other hard rockers, but never for shallow effect, he has real emotive strength. Guitarist Ian Moss shifts into overdrive with the grace of an Indy professional and Walker's insightful lyrics give the music weight."[24] New Zealand magazine Rip It Up said, "Barnes has no peers in the shouting stakes, yet tempers this with delicacy when required. On any assessment, Circus Animals is a triumph."[25]

Reviewed in Rolling Stone Australia at the time of its release, Circus Animals was described as, "a deeply flawed masterpiece, brilliant not so much in spite of the flaws but because of them." The reviewer went on to say, "from the hot, barren coastal highway to the sloping indifference of Kings Cross, these are Australian blues." Particular mention was made of the song "Wild Colonial Boy", which is said to be, "the most overtly political statement from an Australian rock artist in years."[26]

Track listing edit

All songs written by Don Walker, except as noted.

Side One

  1. "You Got Nothing I Want" (Jimmy Barnes) - 3:16
  2. "Bow River" (Ian Moss) - 4:23
  3. "Forever Now" (Steve Prestwich) - 4:26
  4. "Taipan" - 3:55
  5. "Houndog" - 5:04

Side Two

  1. "Wild Colonial Boy" - 4:52
  2. "No Good for You" (Moss) - 3:16
  3. "Numbers Fall" - 4:46
  4. "When the War Is Over" (Prestwich) - 4:25
  5. "Letter to Alan" - 5:57

Charts edit

Certifications edit

Region Certification Certified units/sales
Australia (ARIA)[31] 3× Platinum 210,000^
New Zealand (RMNZ)[32] Platinum 15,000^

^ Shipments figures based on certification alone.

See also edit

Personnel edit

Footnotes edit

  1. ^ Michael Lawrence (1998). Showtime: The Cold Chisel Story. Belmont, Victoria: Michael Lawrence. ISBN 1-86503-118-6.
  2. ^ David Kent (1993). Australian Chart Book 1970-1992. St Ives, New South Wales: Australian Chart Book. p. 72. ISBN 0-646-11917-6.
  3. ^ a b "COLD CHISEL - CIRCUS ANIMALS (ALBUM)". australian-charts.com. Retrieved 25 May 2013.
  4. ^ Anthony O'Grady (2001). Cold Chisel: The Pure Stuff. Crows Nest, New South Wales: Allen & Unwin. p. 99. ISBN 1-86508-196-5.
  5. ^ "Australian Music Awards". Ron Jeff. Archived from the original on 30 June 2012. Retrieved 16 December 2010.
  6. ^ "Final episode of Countdown". 1970scountdown. Retrieved 23 October 2020.
  7. ^ a b c d O'Donnell, John; Creswell, Toby; Mathieson, Craig (October 2010). 100 Best Australian Albums. Prahran, Vic: Hardie Grant Books. pp. 60–61. ISBN 978-1-74066-955-9.
  8. ^ "Around the Tracks". Australian Rolling Stone (February 1982). Randwick, NSW: Silvertongues Pty Ltd: 21.
  9. ^ John Halfhide (1988). "Standing on the Outside". Australian Rolling Stone.
  10. ^ a b c Jane Matheson. "Cold Chisel: Risk-taking is Part of the Game". Australian Rolling Stone (17 June 1982). North Sydney, NSW: Silvertongues Pty Ltd: 14–18.
  11. ^ a b Michael Lawrence (2017). Cold Chisel: Wild Colonial Boys. Melbourne, Victoria: Melbourne Books. p. 183. ISBN 9781925556209.
  12. ^ a b AnnLouise Martin (1 September 1982). "CHISEL show must go on..." Rip It Up. No. 62.
  13. ^ Doug Wallen. "Icons: Mark Opitz Pt 1". Mess + Noise. Retrieved 9 November 2011.
  14. ^ Toby Creswell and Martin Fabinyi (2000). The Real Thing. Random House. p. 137. ISBN 0091835488.
  15. ^ "Cold Chisel – Forever Now (1982, Vinyl)". Discogs. Retrieved 11 September 2023.
  16. ^ Mark Opitz; Luke Wallis; Jeff Jensen (2012). Sophisto-Punk. North Sydney: Ebury Press. pp. 110–111. ISBN 9781742757933.
  17. ^ Jimmy Barnes (2008). Icons of Australian Music: Jimmy Barnes. Springwood, New South Wales: roving eye. p. 57. ISBN 978-0-9804495-0-1.
  18. ^ a b Adrian Zupp. "Circus Animals". allmusic. Retrieved 23 November 2011.
  19. ^ "Industry Results". abc.net.au. 25 January 2011. Retrieved 10 November 2011.
  20. ^ "Best 50 Albums of all time". Juice. No. 50. April 1997.
  21. ^ Toby Creswell (12 October 2011). "Toby Cresswell on Cold Chisel". Brisbane Times. Retrieved 23 November 2011.
  22. ^ Milne, Bruce (April 1982). "Local Product". Roadrunner. Parkside, SA: 60.
  23. ^ Mike Daly (8 April 1982). "Nice and easy every time". The Age. Retrieved 8 January 2012.
  24. ^ Ted Shaw (7 August 1982). "Pop". The Windsor Star. Retrieved 8 January 2012.
  25. ^ David Perkins (1 April 1982). "Records". Rip It Up. No. 57.
  26. ^ Toby Creswell. "Cold Chisel rise above the pop circus". Australian Rolling Stone (15 April 1982). North Sydney, NSW: Silvertongues Pty Ltd: 65.
  27. ^ a b Kent, David (1993). Australian Chart Book 1970–1992 (illustrated ed.). St Ives, N.S.W.: Australian Chart Book. p. 68. ISBN 0-646-11917-6.
  28. ^ "Charts.nz – Cold Chisel – Circus Animals". Hung Medien. Retrieved 14 December 2019.
  29. ^ "Australiancharts.com – Cold Chisel – Circus Animals". Hung Medien. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  30. ^ "Top Selling Albums of 1982 — The Official New Zealand Music Chart". Recorded Music New Zealand. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  31. ^ "ARIA Charts – Accreditations – 1996 Albums" (PDF). Australian Recording Industry Association. Retrieved 25 November 2021.
  32. ^ "Official Top 40 Albums". Recorded Music NZ. 5 December 1982. Retrieved 6 December 2022.

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This article is about a music album For animals in circuses see Circus Animal acts Circus Animals is the fourth studio album by Australian band Cold Chisel released on 8 March 1982 It was recorded and mixed at Paradise Studios and EMI Studios 301 Sydney between September and December 1981 1 It reached number one on the Australian charts remaining in the charts for 40 weeks 2 and also topped the New Zealand charts 3 The working title for the album was Tunnel Cunts 4 Circus AnimalsStudio album by Cold ChiselReleased8 March 1982RecordedSeptember December 1981StudioParadise Sydney Studios 301 Sydney GenrePub rockLength44 20LabelWEA RecordsProducerMark Opitz Cold ChiselCold Chisel chronologySwingshift 1981 Circus Animals 1982 Northbound 1983 Singles from Circus Animals You Got Nothing I Want Released November 1981 Forever Now Released March 1982 When the War Is Over Released July 1982 At the 1982 Countdown Music Awards the album was nominated for Best Australian Album 5 6 Contents 1 Album details 2 Reception 3 Track listing 4 Charts 4 1 Weekly charts 4 2 Year end charts 5 Certifications 6 See also 7 Personnel 8 FootnotesAlbum details editMany of the album s songs were written as a direct reaction to the pop success of the band s previous LP East and feature unusual experimental arrangements Singer Barnes said the whole band particularly Don decided to revolt against the pop formula when we made Circus Animals 7 Walker said There was no way of improving what we d done on East so we had to think of new things to try 8 Elsewhere he added If we d taken those same set of lessons and applied them to the same sort of record it would ve got more slick and lost the spontaneity The only way to remain fresh is to smash all those rules go back and start something else Maybe bring that to fruition or maybe you ll fail 9 Barnes noted It s not way out not ridiculously experimental It s all been done before just not by us 10 The new sound was described as made up of greater rhythmic diversity looser song structures that were less constricting for live performances 10 Critics noticed that the intricate drum patterns imposed a heavy bottom end groove 7 Walker said Steve and I were doing a lot of experimenting in the studio with rhythms based on toms just big tom sounds repeated over and over again So that turned up on Taipan Numbers Fall and Wild Colonial Boy 11 In the lead up to the recording the band was playing concerts in pubs and clubs in regional centres such as Wollongong and Newcastle Band members were encouraged to improvise and change song structures Barnes said It was a really loose free form thing We were developing and changing the songs every night to suit the atmosphere we were in 7 Walker noted A song like Taipan you can do just about anything you like and it won t fall apart 12 Producer Opitz said of the band s reaction to East Don came to me six months later and said I never want to have another commercial album again Which I thought was really funny because what the fuck Don said he didn t want to do another commercial album but thank God for Steve Prestwich 13 Walker said With Steve demoing such melodic songs it didn t matter what we did to them they were going to be extremely melodic accessible songs I felt no pressure to write commercial I didn t try to write singles tight arrangements or anything I had a bit of an indulge 11 Barnes added Immediately we had success Don went dark 14 Lyrically Walker said In the space of 18 months with bits of pieces of tape and stray lines there were maybe three or four things I was writing about Obviously there s something which has been obsessing me about taking chances or not although I didn t realise it at the time it was worrying me 12 The first single You Got Nothing I Want was written by singer Jimmy Barnes about the lack of interest shown in them by their American label rep during the band s 1981 US tour Bow River was a song by guitarist Ian Moss written about a sheep station in the Northern Territory where his brother Peter had once worked The song was included as the B side to the Australian version of the single for Forever Now 15 but proved so popular that it was often played on radio in its own right When the War Is Over was written by drummer Steve Prestwich and has been covered numerous times by Little River Band John Farnham Uriah Heep Cosima De Vito and Something for Kate Letter to Alan was dedicated to a former member of the band s road crew Alan Dallow who died in a truck accident Mark Opitz later said We were doing a mountain of coke during the Circus Animals sessions We would do monster lines of coke and then the band members would go in to do their parts I remember one time my head turned into a helicopter and I was about to lift off and go through the control room roof 16 The album cover was shot by Peter Levy Barnes said This caravan we towed out to Lake Eyre for the photo shoot and when we finished we left it there It was about 40 degrees it was brutal 17 Don Walker said of the location I wanted something that was Australian and couldn t be mistaken for anywhere else A wide flat space with a caravan on it 10 Five of the album s ten songs were later covered for the 2007 tribute album Standing on the Outside You Got Nothing I Want Alex Lloyd Bow River Troy Cassar Daley Forever Now Pete Murray Houndog You Am I and When the War is Over Something for Kate On Friday 22 July 2011 all of Cold Chisel s albums were re released as remastered Collector s Editions They became available for iTunes download for the very first time The album re entered the Australian charts for one week at number 46 3 Reception editProfessional ratingsReview scoresSourceRatingAllmusic nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp nbsp 18 Circus Animals was listed at No 4 in the book 100 Best Australian Albums in October 2010 7 In 2011 it was voted the 75th greatest Australian album by industry pundits at Triple J 19 Juice magazine rated it the 17th greatest album of all time 20 Adrian Zupp gave the album a rating of four and a half out of five at allmusic He described it as A ten song stew of the band s signature guitar and piano driven ballads and rockers that further confirmed Chisel s depth and breadth as a creative unit He went on to describe the highlights as Houndog a gripping grueling riff fest road song the strip club tom tom beat of the slinky Numbers Fall the bent halo ballad When the War Is Over and the coup de grace the coke frenzy rock of the mini epic Letter To Alan 18 Critic Toby Creswell described Circus Animals as a really extraordinary piece of work as though John Steinbeck Henry Lawson Manning Clarke and Jerry Lee Lewis formed a band He went on to single out Wild Colonial Boy because it so brilliantly encapsulated the Australian experience and Houndog because it has a completely mad structure but it too goes to the heart of the Australian wanderlust 21 Roadrunner claimed the band revel in their Australianness and seem to capture a lot of the hard edge of this country 22 The Age also gave a positive review saying I regarded Cold Chisel as over rated when they first hit the scene with a splash but they have established themselves as a consistent powerful outfit with strong instrumentals vocals and writing All these qualities have come together on Circus Animals for the first time 23 Given an A rating in Canada s Windsor Star the reviewer noted This is heavy metal at its painful best Jim Barnes screams like other hard rockers but never for shallow effect he has real emotive strength Guitarist Ian Moss shifts into overdrive with the grace of an Indy professional and Walker s insightful lyrics give the music weight 24 New Zealand magazine Rip It Up said Barnes has no peers in the shouting stakes yet tempers this with delicacy when required On any assessment Circus Animals is a triumph 25 Reviewed in Rolling Stone Australia at the time of its release Circus Animals was described as a deeply flawed masterpiece brilliant not so much in spite of the flaws but because of them The reviewer went on to say from the hot barren coastal highway to the sloping indifference of Kings Cross these are Australian blues Particular mention was made of the song Wild Colonial Boy which is said to be the most overtly political statement from an Australian rock artist in years 26 Track listing editAll songs written by Don Walker except as noted Side One You Got Nothing I Want Jimmy Barnes 3 16 Bow River Ian Moss 4 23 Forever Now Steve Prestwich 4 26 Taipan 3 55 Houndog 5 04 Side Two Wild Colonial Boy 4 52 No Good for You Moss 3 16 Numbers Fall 4 46 When the War Is Over Prestwich 4 25 Letter to Alan 5 57Charts editWeekly charts edit Chart 1982 Peakposition Australian Albums Kent Music Report 27 1 New Zealand Albums RMNZ 28 1 Chart 2011 Peakposition Australian Albums ARIA 29 46 Year end charts edit Chart 1982 Position Australian Albums Kent Music Report 27 6 New Zealand Albums RMNZ 30 15Certifications editRegion Certification Certified units sales Australia ARIA 31 3 Platinum 210 000 New Zealand RMNZ 32 Platinum 15 000 Shipments figures based on certification alone See also editList of number one albums in Australia during the 1980s 1982 List of number one albums from the 1980s New Zealand List of Top 25 albums for 1982 in AustraliaPersonnel editJimmy Barnes lead vocals backing vocals Ian Moss guitar backing vocals lead vocals tracks 2 5 and 9 Don Walker organ piano synthesizer backing vocals Steve Prestwich drums backing vocals Phil Small bass backing vocalsFootnotes edit Michael Lawrence 1998 Showtime The Cold Chisel Story Belmont Victoria Michael Lawrence ISBN 1 86503 118 6 David Kent 1993 Australian Chart Book 1970 1992 St Ives New South Wales Australian Chart Book p 72 ISBN 0 646 11917 6 a b COLD CHISEL CIRCUS ANIMALS ALBUM australian charts com Retrieved 25 May 2013 Anthony O Grady 2001 Cold Chisel The Pure Stuff Crows Nest New South Wales Allen amp Unwin p 99 ISBN 1 86508 196 5 Australian Music Awards Ron Jeff Archived from the original on 30 June 2012 Retrieved 16 December 2010 Final episode of Countdown 1970scountdown Retrieved 23 October 2020 a b c d O Donnell John Creswell Toby Mathieson Craig October 2010 100 Best Australian Albums Prahran Vic Hardie Grant Books pp 60 61 ISBN 978 1 74066 955 9 Around the Tracks Australian Rolling Stone February 1982 Randwick NSW Silvertongues Pty Ltd 21 John Halfhide 1988 Standing on the Outside Australian Rolling Stone a b c Jane Matheson Cold Chisel Risk taking is Part of the Game Australian Rolling Stone 17 June 1982 North Sydney NSW Silvertongues Pty Ltd 14 18 a b Michael Lawrence 2017 Cold Chisel Wild Colonial Boys Melbourne Victoria Melbourne Books p 183 ISBN 9781925556209 a b AnnLouise Martin 1 September 1982 CHISEL show must go on Rip It Up No 62 Doug Wallen Icons Mark Opitz Pt 1 Mess Noise Retrieved 9 November 2011 Toby Creswell and Martin Fabinyi 2000 The Real Thing Random House p 137 ISBN 0091835488 Cold Chisel Forever Now 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