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Carpenters Arms

Carpenters Arms is a common British pub name.

One of many Carpenters Arms pubs located in the United Kingdom. This one is in Windsor, Berkshire.

The Carpenters Arms are today an unrelated series of public houses informally referred to as "Pubs" within the United Kingdom. Historically the first such named "Carpenter Arms" was based on a forfeit Carpenter Coat of Arms patent and supported by the Ale or beer producers circa 1721. The Alehouses helped create the "Public Houses" - the first true British Pubs in an effort to appeal to a wider audience and gain greater acceptance. Prior to this the pubs (not taverns) appealed to local tastes and often were the fronts of actual homes. These were rather ramshackled affairs appealing to occupational men.[1][2]

The occupational crafts such as carpenters (once called wrights then woodwrights in England), bricklayers, stonemasons, masons, et cetera were intended to attract those local working men. During the Victorian architecture building of the Victorian Age of 1837-1901 many pubs were ungraded and added "Arms" to their names as a claim to higher status.[1][2]

Over time, many "Carpenter Arms" were converted into other businesses and even private homes. Some establishments date from the 17th century and others reside in more modern buildings. Over 75 taverns, pubs and such have been identified as having or once having the name Carpenter Arms. See: List

Name conflict edit

The historic named "Carpenter Arms" started to be used after a forfeit of title by Baron Carpenter in 1719. When the Carpenter Arms were re-patented, this caused a legal conflict with the Alehouse pubs called "Carpenter Arms." The English courts determined in a series of rulings from 1725 to 1734 that the business use in England of Carpenters Arms and similar Arms could continue, provided they did not display the full arms issued by patent such as the supporters, motto and crest. In addition, they could not claim patronage in any way to the Arms unless given by contract.[3]

Car cricket edit

The "Carpenter Arms" are on traditional lists of car cricket, also known as pub cricket, a car game played in the United Kingdom and other countries with a sufficient number of suitably named pubs.[4]

Drug Rehab edit

A rehabilitation centre for men and a registered English charity, on Wharncliffe Road, Loughborough in Leicestershire, is also called The Carpenter's Arms. The name is a dual reference to the hotel/pub context and the arms of The Carpenter.[5] They also have a Carpenter Arms football (soccer) team.[6]

Football edit

Over various time periods some Carpenter Arms have supported football (soccer) teams by the same name. For example, A Trowbridge-based first division team was sponsored by the Swindon Carpenters Arms. This club folded in late 2014 after almost two decades of play.[7][8][9]

Trade tokens edit

 
The Worshipful Company of Carpenters Coat of Arms.

The former Carpenter Arms pub in the town of Marlow resided in a Grade II listed building from the early 17th century. It had a metal Carpenters Coat of Arms sign that has since disappeared.[10]

This Carpenters Arms pub once issued a 15 mm cooper farthing trade token that had the Carpenters Arms Coat of Arms of the Worshipful Company of Carpenters on one side. These quarter of a penny tokens along with a half penny trade token were produced from about 1648 to at least 1673.[11][12]

These trade tokens should not be confused with the 15.6 mm cooper trade tokens issued by George Carpenter, of Wapping, in the 1650s.[13]

In 2009, this old Carpenters Arms pub was rebranded as an Irish bar and renamed O'Donoghue's.[14]

See also edit

References edit

  1. ^ a b "A History of Britain in its Pub Signs, Part I". timetravel-britain.com. Retrieved 2010-07-08.
  2. ^ a b "Time Gentlemen Please! - News and Features - Ratebeer". ratebeer.com. Retrieved 2010-07-08.
  3. ^ Historical Manuscripts Commission, UK National Register of Archives, George Carpenter (1657-1732) 1st Baron Carpenter Lieutenant General, Court cases regarding Arms,HMC.gov.uk[permanent dead link]
  4. ^ * AA Book of the Road, UK edition, 1971
  5. ^ "The Carpenter Arms". The Carpenter’s Arms (Midlands) Trust Charity No. 1147791. Retrieved 2014-01-19.
  6. ^ "The Carpenter Arms Football team". The Carpenter’s Arms (Midlands) Trust Charity No. 1147791. Retrieved 2015-05-08.[permanent dead link]
  7. ^ "Blackwater Football Club". Blackwater Football Club. Retrieved 8 June 2015.
  8. ^ "Murden_rejoins_Carpenters_Arms". Newsquest (Oxfordshire & Wiltshire) Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. HP10 9TY. Retrieved 8 June 2015.
  9. ^ "Carpenters take first step in Trophy defence". Newsquest (Oxfordshire & Wiltshire) Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. HP10 9TY. Retrieved 8 June 2015.
  10. ^ "The Carpenters Arms Public House, Marlow". britishlistedbuildings.co.uk. Retrieved 2013-01-16.
  11. ^ "Carpenters Arms trade token Marlow's Rents". Museum of London. Retrieved 2015-05-21.
  12. ^ "Trade tokens issued in the seventeenth century in England, Wales, and Ireland, by corporations, merchants, tradesmen, etc. Illustrated by numerous plates and woodcuts, and containing notes of family, heraldic, and topographical interest respecting the various issuers of the tokens". Google Books. Retrieved 2015-05-21.
  13. ^ "George Carpenter, Mealman of Wapping". Mr. Pepys' Small Change. 9 July 2014. Retrieved 2015-05-21.
  14. ^ "Pubs in Marlow". mymarlow.co.uk. Retrieved 2013-01-16.

External links edit

  • The Historical Essex, London, Middlesex, Hertfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Berkshire, Kent, Suffolk, Oxfordshire, Sussex & Surrey Dead Pubs site in the South East of England
  • Stuart, Donald (2004). London's Historic Inns and Taverns. London: Breedon Books Publishing Co Ltd. ISBN 1-85983-398-5. Review
  • The Lost Pubs Project - Archiving The Decline Of The English Pub - Many Carpenter Arms listed

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Carpenters Arms is a common British pub name One of many Carpenters Arms pubs located in the United Kingdom This one is in Windsor Berkshire The Carpenters Arms are today an unrelated series of public houses informally referred to as Pubs within the United Kingdom Historically the first such named Carpenter Arms was based on a forfeit Carpenter Coat of Arms patent and supported by the Ale or beer producers circa 1721 The Alehouses helped create the Public Houses the first true British Pubs in an effort to appeal to a wider audience and gain greater acceptance Prior to this the pubs not taverns appealed to local tastes and often were the fronts of actual homes These were rather ramshackled affairs appealing to occupational men 1 2 The occupational crafts such as carpenters once called wrights then woodwrights in England bricklayers stonemasons masons et cetera were intended to attract those local working men During the Victorian architecture building of the Victorian Age of 1837 1901 many pubs were ungraded and added Arms to their names as a claim to higher status 1 2 Over time many Carpenter Arms were converted into other businesses and even private homes Some establishments date from the 17th century and others reside in more modern buildings Over 75 taverns pubs and such have been identified as having or once having the name Carpenter Arms See List Contents 1 Name conflict 2 Car cricket 3 Drug Rehab 4 Football 5 Trade tokens 6 See also 7 References 8 External linksName conflict editThe historic named Carpenter Arms started to be used after a forfeit of title by Baron Carpenter in 1719 When the Carpenter Arms were re patented this caused a legal conflict with the Alehouse pubs called Carpenter Arms The English courts determined in a series of rulings from 1725 to 1734 that the business use in England of Carpenters Arms and similar Arms could continue provided they did not display the full arms issued by patent such as the supporters motto and crest In addition they could not claim patronage in any way to the Arms unless given by contract 3 Car cricket editThe Carpenter Arms are on traditional lists of car cricket also known as pub cricket a car game played in the United Kingdom and other countries with a sufficient number of suitably named pubs 4 Drug Rehab editA rehabilitation centre for men and a registered English charity on Wharncliffe Road Loughborough in Leicestershire is also called The Carpenter s Arms The name is a dual reference to the hotel pub context and the arms of The Carpenter 5 They also have a Carpenter Arms football soccer team 6 Football editOver various time periods some Carpenter Arms have supported football soccer teams by the same name For example A Trowbridge based first division team was sponsored by the Swindon Carpenters Arms This club folded in late 2014 after almost two decades of play 7 8 9 Trade tokens edit nbsp The Worshipful Company of Carpenters Coat of Arms The former Carpenter Arms pub in the town of Marlow resided in a Grade II listed building from the early 17th century It had a metal Carpenters Coat of Arms sign that has since disappeared 10 This Carpenters Arms pub once issued a 15 mm cooper farthing trade token that had the Carpenters Arms Coat of Arms of the Worshipful Company of Carpenters on one side These quarter of a penny tokens along with a half penny trade token were produced from about 1648 to at least 1673 11 12 These trade tokens should not be confused with the 15 6 mm cooper trade tokens issued by George Carpenter of Wapping in the 1650s 13 In 2009 this old Carpenters Arms pub was rebranded as an Irish bar and renamed O Donoghue s 14 See also editPub names List of pubs named Carpenters ArmsReferences edit a b A History of Britain in its Pub Signs Part I timetravel britain com Retrieved 2010 07 08 a b Time Gentlemen Please News and Features Ratebeer ratebeer com Retrieved 2010 07 08 Historical Manuscripts Commission UK National Register of Archives George Carpenter 1657 1732 1st Baron Carpenter Lieutenant General Court cases regarding Arms HMC gov uk permanent dead link AA Book of the Road UK edition 1971 The Carpenter Arms The Carpenter s Arms Midlands Trust Charity No 1147791 Retrieved 2014 01 19 The Carpenter Arms Football team The Carpenter s Arms Midlands Trust Charity No 1147791 Retrieved 2015 05 08 permanent dead link Blackwater Football Club Blackwater Football Club Retrieved 8 June 2015 Murden rejoins Carpenters Arms Newsquest Oxfordshire amp Wiltshire Ltd Loudwater Mill Station Road High Wycombe Buckinghamshire HP10 9TY Retrieved 8 June 2015 Carpenters take first step in Trophy defence Newsquest Oxfordshire amp Wiltshire Ltd Loudwater Mill Station Road High Wycombe Buckinghamshire HP10 9TY Retrieved 8 June 2015 The Carpenters Arms Public House Marlow britishlistedbuildings co uk Retrieved 2013 01 16 Carpenters Arms trade token Marlow s Rents Museum of London Retrieved 2015 05 21 Trade tokens issued in the seventeenth century in England Wales and Ireland by corporations merchants tradesmen etc Illustrated by numerous plates and woodcuts and containing notes of family heraldic and topographical interest respecting the various issuers of the tokens Google Books Retrieved 2015 05 21 George Carpenter Mealman of Wapping Mr Pepys Small Change 9 July 2014 Retrieved 2015 05 21 Pubs in Marlow mymarlow co uk Retrieved 2013 01 16 External links editThe Historical Essex London Middlesex Hertfordshire Cambridgeshire Berkshire Kent Suffolk Oxfordshire Sussex amp Surrey Dead Pubs site in the South East of England Stuart Donald 2004 London s Historic Inns and Taverns London Breedon Books Publishing Co Ltd ISBN 1 85983 398 5 Review The Lost Pubs Project Archiving The Decline Of The English Pub Many Carpenter Arms listed Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Carpenters Arms amp oldid 1218375652, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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