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Windsor soup

Windsor soup or Brown Windsor soup is a British soup.[1][2][3] While commonly associated with the Victorian and Edwardian eras, the practice of calling it 'Brown Windsor' did not emerge until at least the 1920s, and the name was usually associated with low-quality brown soup of uncertain ingredients. Although Windsor soup comprised elegant recipes among famous chefs of the 19th century, the 'Brown Windsor' varieties became an institutional gruel that gained a reputation as indicative of bad English food during the mid-20th century, and a later source of jokes, myths and legends.

Windsor soup
TypeSoup
Place of originGreat Britain
Main ingredientsCalf's feet, bouquet garni, Madeira wine
VariationsWhite and brown soups

Origins and heyday Edit

 
Queen Victoria luncheon at Windsor (1895) with her daughter Princess Beatrice's family. Victoria "embraced, wholeheartedly, all the world had to offer her to eat",[4] including, on occasion, Windsor soup, though she never supped Brown Windsor soup.[5]

In 1834 Henderson William Brand – chef to King George IV and the inventor of what would become A.1. Sauce – published a cookbook containing a recipe for Vermicelli Soup, à la Windsor. It is a white meat broth and noodle soup that Brand said was a favourite of George III and IV.[6]

Another similar Windsor soup recipe was published 11 years later in the influential 1845 cookbook The Modern Cook by British-Italian Charles Elmé Francatelli, who was Queen Victoria's head chef from 1840 to 1842.[7] He called it Calf's Feet Soup, a la Windsor (or Potage a la Windsor) and it was made from calf's feet or oxtail consomme creating a thick gelatine body,[A] and includes white wine and cream, chicken and noodles – it is a white soup.[7] The Modern Cook was an influential guide-book for Victorian women who wanted to emulate the Queen; it was a cooking bible in many households ensuring its currency at home and in upper-end restaurants.[8] Contrary to beliefs that Queen Victoria ate the soup frequently, it rarely appeared on the royal menus, and never as a "brown" soup.[5]

Variations on Francatelli's recipe appeared throughout the 19th century. Typical recipes called for calf's feet and Madeira wine,[9] and was sometimes darkened to a deep brown with caramel colouring and spiced with cayenne pepper, as in a recipe by the Waldorf Astoria's head chef Oscar Tschirky.[10] A 'white' version that uses Windsor beans was published in 1855.[11] Some were made from mutton, beef and rice.[12][13] Agnes Marshall had a simple barley and meat version,[14] and French chef Auguste Escoffier created a creamy Windsor soup at the Savoy Hotel restaurant in the 1890s, a favourite eatery for English royalty including the Prince of Wales.[15][16]

Decline and fall Edit

 
Batcherlor's Windsor Soup (1942)

By the 1920s, enthusiasm for Windsor soup was perceptibly waning.[17] As Evelyn Waugh noted in 1924, "things were not as good as they used to be—including Windsor soup".[17] Windsor soup was transforming into an icon of dreary British cuisine.[18] Michael Bateman states, "In the 1930s, the art of soupmaking sank to an all-time low and every hotel offered disgusting brown soups (so-called Brown Windsor soup)".[19] The so-called "brown Windsor soup" first appeared in the 1920s, when it was served aux masses in cafes and cafeterias. Examples include Cadena Cafes (Portsmouth) which advertised "Soup – Tomato or Brown Windsor" on its menu dated 24 February 1926.[20] Bobby's of Queens Road, Bristol, advertised "Potage Brown Windsor" (under the "soup" heading) on its menu dated 13 February 1931.[21] The Scottish department store Isaac Benzie advertised "Brown Windsor soup" in a menu published 14 December 1933.[22]

The easy availability of tinned and packet soups was driving soup in new directions,[17] for example there was a "Batchelor's Windsor Soup" sold in a tin can during the 1940s.[23][24] With wartime rationing, some towns kept stocks of canned Windsor.[23][25] P. D. James reminisced that during the war, "brown Windsor soup featured largely on the menus of British Restaurants set up under the aegis of the Ministry of Food ... the soup tasted of gravy browning."[26] Author Eric Wright recalled being indigent in 1945 and eating free Windsor soup at a cafeteria run by the Asiatic Petroleum Company.[27]

After the war, food rationing continued into the 1950s. Leftovers would be pureed or mixed into brown mystery soups whose connection with the original Windsor recipe may have been in name only.[28] The soup may have been nothing more than a watery, tasteless gruel made from bouillon powder and starch thickener,[28] or leftover cans: "I can remember cans of Windsor in my grandmother's larder, which she kept from the war. Humorously thought of as only to be used in the event of an invasion."[28]

Satirists began poking fun at Brown Windsor in the 1950s because on the one hand it was rubbish served in shabby establishments, on the other it had a pretentiously posh name.[28] Annie Gray notes that despite the jokes it was in fact "a real soup", but one "largely associated with shabby boarding houses trying to sound posh."[5] Nicholas Parsons confirms "It was very much part of the culture when I was young. Nearly every cheap hotel had brown Windsor soup. I think hotels used all the remains of their meat ... and it was always on the menu. It was such a staple item you either laughed at it or ignored it. It was an object of ridicule and humour."[28] For example, in a play published in 1958, John Osborne asserts "the only fit place for it is the sink."[29] Satirists often say they had only ever had it once, for example Jane Garmey recalled "having tasted it once I knew better than to risk the experience again",[30] and Nicholas Parsons jokingly said he only ever had it "the once".[28] Honor Tracy observed, "Anyone fool enough to eat in a provincial English hotel, for whatever reason, deserves no sympathy – this nation seems hooked on Brown Windsor soup."[31] By 1984, it was becoming legendary, as R. W. Apple Jr. noticed: "Slowly, ever so slowly over the last twenty-five years, good restaurants have come into being in almost all parts of the kingdom. Brown Windsor soup, thanks heavens, is an endangered species."[32]

Myths and legends Edit

External image
  A modern Brown Windsor soup airplane meal (UK to Saudi Arabia). With croutons and parsley. Windsor soup was traditionally served with Madeira wine.

A number of myths, legends and assumptions grew around the soup. Some sources assert that Brown Windsor soup was not popular in reality, and was primarily a joke meme that originated with the 1953 Ealing Studios film comedy The Captain's Paradise. By this argument, the soup's name was repeated in the memoirs of many authors over the following decades who misremembered (intentionally or otherwise) the popularity or even existence of the soup, to artistic or humorous effect.[33][34] As noted by John Lanchester, "There is a sinister genius in the very name Brown Windsor soup".[35]

One researcher found a number of recipes for 'brown soup' that is a bone-based broth with some similarities to Windsor soup, and hypothesized there might have been a commingling of 'Windsor soup' and 'brown soup' in the memories of later commentators.[24] This connection was made in a 1958 New Yorker restaurant review, "The cold meat was quite good, and the flavour of the fine brown soup recalls the war," to which another reviewer responds, "A fine brown soup-formally listed on British menus as a "Brown Windsor soup" is as hard to imagine as a fine kind of dislocated elbow."[36]

A number of authors have noted the similarities with "Brown Windsor soap", which was well known in the Victorian era, and suggested there might be a connection.[5][2][17]

Etymologist Michael Quinion incorrectly reports the earliest known reference is from 1943, in The Fancy, by Monica Dickens.[2] In 1915, author Edith Siepen says the soup originated in France, probably a misunderstanding due to the early French name in The Modern Cook.[9]

Windsor and/or Brown Windsor has been associated with the British Railways by a number of authors, although historians have had trouble verifying it ever existed. Malcolm Timperley, a researcher in the National Railway Museum's library and archives, reported that their team specifically researched the existence of Brown Windsor soup in British dining cars. After checking scores of menus dating back to the nineteenth century they failed to find any mention of it.[37] Nevertheless, according to author Paul Spicer, Brown Windsor was popular on British railways, and "was often said to have built the British Empire".[38] Author Jane Garmey, writing about it in 1981, said Brown Windsor was "continually served by British Railways in their dining cars", and from her childhood memories she "assumed it was the only soup that could be served on a train" due to its ubiquity.[30] Fictional barrister Rumpole of the Bailey mentioned eating it on the Great Western Railway in a book of short stories dated 1978, although Quinion questions whether this is an endorsement of the soup, "the extract confirms that the soup was at one time a staple of the restaurant menus of British Railways," in Quinion's view.[39]

In popular culture Edit

The magazine The Poke advertised a satirical can of Brown Windsor soup as part of a "Jubilee Collection," available for about £40, complete with silver spoon and reportedly made "directly from the sewage outflow of Windsor Castle."[40] Brown Windsor soup is identified in the film Carry On Regardless (1961) by Kenneth Connor as the dish he is splashed with having knocked over a waiter's tray on a train and in Carry On Abroad (1972) by Kenneth Williams in a scene in the hotel's restaurant, where the soup is mistakenly referred to as "Brown Bristols" by the Spanish hotel manager, played by Peter Butterworth. In an episode of The Goon Show entitled "The Macreekie Rising of '74", Brown Windsor soup is used as a weapon and mocked as "more deficient in calories than Scots porridge" by the impressively stout Neddy Seagoon.

In Rumpole of the Bailey, episode "the Alternative Society", Rumpole has an inner monologue while riding a train in which he yearns for a real old fashioned railway lunch starting with "a touch of Brown Windsor soup", this leads to synchronism with a question in his crossword puzzle "first course for coloured royals"

In Hancock's Half Hour, episode "Air Crew Only", the in-flight meal starts with "Brown Windsor soup just burnt enough to leave that attractive brown ring sticking round the edge of the plate", a line re-used from the radio episode "The End of the Series" (1955).[41] Hancock also mentions it in "The Espresso Bar" (1952),[42] and in a sketch in the fourth episode of his 1956 Associated-Rediffusion series The Tony Hancock Show.[43]

In the Agatha Christie's Poirot episode "Hercule Poirot's Christmas", Poirot asks a waiter "What is this Brown Windsor Soup?" to which the waiter responds, "It is soup from Windsor"; later, Poirot laments to the waiter that the Brown Windsor soup he has been served "doesn't look very... delicieux".[44] In "Basil the Rat," the last episode of Fawlty Towers, the upper-class couple who have the rat under their table order a Windsor soup as their starter.[45]

In the 2021 BBC One TV series Around the World in 80 Days, the lead character Phileas Fogg (David Tennant) goes to the Reform Club each morning, where his friends know in advance what he will order for lunch: Brown Windsor soup. To which one friend tells him, "Some are born to adventure and others, frankly, are not".[46] It is an anachronistic joke, Brown Windsor Soup is not known to have existed prior to the 1920s.

See also Edit

References Edit

Notes

  1. ^ Before gelatin became widely available as a commercial product, the best gelatin for use in soups and deserts was derived from boiling calves' feet.

Citations

  1. ^ Hibbert, Christopher (2001). Queen Victoria: A Personal History. New York: Da Capo Press. p. 469. ISBN 0-306-81085-9.
  2. ^ a b c Quinion, Michael (15 March 2014). "Brown Windsor Soup". World Wide Words Newsletter. World Wide Words. Retrieved 15 March 2014.
  3. ^ French Tart (21 September 2009). "Queen Victoria's Brown Windsor Soup (recipe)". Food.com. Retrieved 22 March 2014.
  4. ^ Lucy Lethbridge (28 May 2017). "The Greedy Queen: Eating With Victoria review – nothing dainty about these dishes". The Guardian. Retrieved 28 April 2020.
  5. ^ a b c d Annie Gray (2017). The Greedy Queen: Eating with Victoria. Profile Books. pp. 357–358. ISBN 978-1781256824. Brown Windsor soup, which is often cited as a favourite dish of the Queen, did not exist at all in the nineteenth century. The earliest references are from the 1930s, and by the time it became well known, in the 1950s, it was a music hall joke, and there are suggestions the term came into being as a typical punning mixture of an established, upper-class soup and a type of soap, known as Brown Windsor. These dubious connotations notwithstanding, it did become a real soup, largely associated with shabby boarding houses trying to sound posh. There was a soup called Windsor Soup (not brown) ... but it rarely appeared on the royal menus.
  6. ^ John Simpson (1834). Simpson's Cookery, Improved and Modernised. London: Baldwin and Cradock. p. 48.
  7. ^ a b Charles Elmé Francatelli (1846). The Modern Cook: A Practical Guide to the Culinary Art in all its Branches. London: Richard Bentley. p. 88-89.
  8. ^ Fisher, M. F. K. (15 September 1974). "Food: The Arts (Fine and Culinary) of 19th Century America". The New York Times. Retrieved 18 January 2016.
  9. ^ a b Edith Siepen (1915). Continental Cookery for the English Table. S. Paul. p. 6.
  10. ^ Oscar Tschirky (1896). The Cook Book. Chicago: Werner. p. 45.
  11. ^ G. W. (11 September 1855). "The Household". Country Gentleman's Companion. XIV (CCCLXIII): 430.
  12. ^ Charles Herman Senn (1894). Practical Gastronomy and Culinary Dictionary. London: Spottiswoode and Company. p. 101.
  13. ^ Margaret Alice Fairclough (1911). The Ideal Cookery Book. London: Waverley Book Company. p. 80.
  14. ^ Agnes Marshall (1894). Mrs. A. B. Marshall's Cookery Book. London: Simpkin, Marshall, Hamilton. p. 69.
  15. ^ Auguste Escoffier (1969). The Escoffier Cook Book: A Guide to the Fine Art of Cookery. New York: Crown. p. 258. Retrieved 9 April 2020.
  16. ^ Luke Bar (2018). Ritz and Escoffier: The Hotelier, The Chef, and the Rise of the Leisure Class. Clarkson Potter. ISBN 978-0804186292.
  17. ^ a b c d John Ayto (2002). An A–Z of food and drink. Oxford University Press. p. 44. Even in the 1920s enthusiasm for it was perceptively waning (Evelyn Waugh recorded in The Isis Magazine (5 March 1924) that Gilbert Murray 'admitted that there were many things which were not as good as they used to be—Windsor soup, and marmalade and things like that.'), and the easy availability of tinned and packet soup had virtually seen brown Windsor off by the 1960s.
  18. ^ Bee Wilson (2012). Consider the Fork: A History of How We Cook and Eat. Basic Books. p. 25. ISBN 9780465021765. It is interesting, then, that despite their fabulously well-equipped kitchens, the Victorians have a reputation for having ruined British cooking, reducing everything to a mass of brown Windsor soup. Some historians have argued that this reputation is unjustified.
  19. ^ Michael Bateman (31 January 1993). "Soup of the evening, beautiful Soup: Lewis Carroll hymned its praises, but it's been out of fashion for years. Michael Bateman on the delicious revival of a traditional first course". The Independent. Retrieved 21 April 2020. In the 1930s, the art of soupmaking sank to an all-time low and every hotel offered disgusting brown soups (so-called Brown Windsor soup) or white soups (so-called cream of this and that, but mostly flour and thinned-down milk). But after the Second World War, tinned soup represented the peak of our gastronomic desires; Britons consumed three times more than any other nation in Europe.
  20. ^ The Portsmouth Evening News, 24 February 1926. Page 3, advertisement for Cadena Cafes left column. Last accessed May 2015 via British Newspaper Archive.
  21. ^ Western Daily Press, Bristol, 13 February 1931. Page 9, advertisement for Bobby's of Queens Road left column. Last accessed February 2015 via British Newspaper Archive.
  22. ^ Aberdeen Press and Journal, 14 December 1933, page 12, advertisement second column top. Last accessed February 2015 via British Newspaper Archive.
  23. ^ a b J. Alun Evans (1946). Borough of Port Talbot: Annual Report of the Medical Officer of Health for 1945. p. 46.
  24. ^ a b Estelle (16 July 2015). "Brown Windsor Soup". The Skittish Library. Retrieved 23 October 2015.
  25. ^ C. E. James (1943). Medical Officers Report: 1942. Cricklade and Wootton Bassett (England). Rural District Council. p. 4.
  26. ^ P. D. James (2000). Time To Be In Earnest: A Fragment of Autobiography. Bath: Chivers Press. p. 100-101. brown Windsor soup featured largely on the menus of British restaurants set up under the aegis of the Ministry of Food to provide inexpensive and healthy meals ... the soup tasted of gravy browning.
  27. ^ Eric Wright (2002). Always Give a Penny to a Blind Man: A Memoir. Bath: Chivers Press. p. 162.
  28. ^ a b c d e f Tim Hayward (16 February 2015). Soup and the British. The Food Programme (radio broadcast). BBC Radio 4. Archived from the original on 24 April 2020.
  29. ^ John Osborne (1958). Epitaph for George Dillon: A Play in Three Acts. New York: Criterion Books. p. 22. If you had any understanding at all, you would know what a bitter taste this kind of watery gruel must have. This is the Brown Windsor soup of love alright, and the only fit place for it is the sink. If this is the kind of thing you and your pals would dole out for the proletariat and its poor, grubby artists, you had better think again.
  30. ^ a b Jane Garmey (1981). Great British Cooking: A Well-Kept Secret. New York: Random House. p. 30. This hearty beef soup, once extremely fashionable, has all but disappeared. For many years, a particularly unappetising version was continually served by British Railways in their dining cars, which may explain its present demise. Throughout my childhood, I assumed it was the only soup that could be served on a train and having tasted it once I knew better than to risk the experience again.
  31. ^ Honor Tracy (1983). The Heart of England. London: H. Hamilton. p. 10. Anyone fool enough to eat in a provincial English hotel, for whatever reason, deserves no sympathy. As I remember it, there was a choice of prawn cocktail or Brown Windsor soup – this nation seems hooked on Brown Windsor soup.
  32. ^ R. W. Apple Jr. (1984). "Farewell to Brown Windsor Soup". In A. M. Rosenthal (ed.). The Sophisticated Traveler: Beloved Cities: Europe. New York: Villard Books. p. 142. Slowly, ever so slowly over the last twenty-five years, good restaurants have come into being in almost all parts of the kingdom. Brown Windsor soup, thanks heavens, is an endangered species.
  33. ^ Lovefood Team (27 February 2013). "The curious tale of Brown Windsor soup". Love Food. Retrieved 5 May 2013.
  34. ^ Staff writer (20 February 2013). "Brown Windsor Information". The Foods of England. The Foods of England. Retrieved 5 May 2013.
  35. ^ John Lanchester (1996). The Debt to Pleasure. London: Picador. p. 8.
  36. ^ "The Talk of the Town". The New Yorker. 15 November 1958. Retrieved 24 April 2020. The publisher has now altered the original sentence, which read, "The cold meat was quite good, & only the flavour of the brown soup recalled the war,' to 'The cold meat was quite good, & the flavour of the fine brown soup recalls the war.' A fine brown soup-formally listed on British menus as a "Brown Windsor soup" is as hard to imagine as a fine kind of dislocated elbow. The readiness of the solicitor to detect libel in so non-Committal a reference to soup, our man thinks, betrays a national sense of culinary guilt.
  37. ^ Timperley, Malcolm (July 2016). "Lines of Enquiry". Backtrack. 30 (7): 387.
  38. ^ Paul Spicer (2010). The Temptress: The Scandalous Life of Alice de Janze and the Mysterious Death of Lord Erroll. St. Martin's Press. p. 50. This beef and vegetable broth was very popular during Victorian and Edwardian times, especially on the railways, and was often said to have built the British Empire.
  39. ^ Quinion, Michael (22 March 2014). "Brown Windsor soup". World Wide Words Newsletter. World Wide Words. Retrieved 15 March 2014.
  40. ^ "Brown Windsor Soup Jubilee Collection". The Poke thepoke.co.uk. Retrieved 23 March 2014.
  41. ^ Galton and Simpson (15 February 1955). The End of the Series - Series 1. Hancock's Half Hour (radio broadcast). BBC Sounds.
  42. ^ Galton and Simpson (16 December 1956). The Espresso Bar - Season 4. Hancock's Half Hour (radio broadcast). BBC Sounds. Archived from the original on 3 May 2020.
  43. ^ Eric Sykes (18 May 1956). The Tony Hancock Show, May 18 1956. The Tony Hancock Show (Television broadcast). Associated-Rediffusion.
  44. ^ Agatha Christies Poirot (1989) Episode Scripts
  45. ^ "The Curious Tale of Brown Windsor Soup". lovefood.com. 15 November 2016. Retrieved 23 February 2017.
  46. ^ James Rampton (23 December 2021). "David Tennant on Around the World in 80 Days' Phileas Fogg: 'He's a sheltered public schoolboy". i. Retrieved 27 December 2021.

External links Edit

  • Foods of England Project. "Brown Windsor Soup". Retrieved 29 August 2015.
  • The Old Foodie. "Windsor Soup". Retrieved 25 March 2014.
  • Estelle (16 July 2015). "Brown Windsor Soup". The Skittish Library. Retrieved 23 October 2015.
  • Gary Jones (26 April 2023). "The muddy history of Brown Windsor Soup". Retrieved 27 April 2023.
  • Marguerite Patten (2015). "Windsor Soup (recipe)". Marguerite Patten's Century of British Cooking. Grub Street Cookery. pp. 18–20. ISBN 9781910690055.

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Windsor soup or Brown Windsor soup is a British soup 1 2 3 While commonly associated with the Victorian and Edwardian eras the practice of calling it Brown Windsor did not emerge until at least the 1920s and the name was usually associated with low quality brown soup of uncertain ingredients Although Windsor soup comprised elegant recipes among famous chefs of the 19th century the Brown Windsor varieties became an institutional gruel that gained a reputation as indicative of bad English food during the mid 20th century and a later source of jokes myths and legends Windsor soupTypeSoupPlace of originGreat BritainMain ingredientsCalf s feet bouquet garni Madeira wineVariationsWhite and brown soups Contents 1 Origins and heyday 2 Decline and fall 3 Myths and legends 4 In popular culture 5 See also 6 References 7 External linksOrigins and heyday Edit nbsp Queen Victoria luncheon at Windsor 1895 with her daughter Princess Beatrice s family Victoria embraced wholeheartedly all the world had to offer her to eat 4 including on occasion Windsor soup though she never supped Brown Windsor soup 5 In 1834 Henderson William Brand chef to King George IV and the inventor of what would become A 1 Sauce published a cookbook containing a recipe for Vermicelli Soup a la Windsor It is a white meat broth and noodle soup that Brand said was a favourite of George III and IV 6 Another similar Windsor soup recipe was published 11 years later in the influential 1845 cookbook The Modern Cook by British Italian Charles Elme Francatelli who was Queen Victoria s head chef from 1840 to 1842 7 He called it Calf s Feet Soup a la Windsor or Potage a la Windsor and it was made from calf s feet or oxtail consomme creating a thick gelatine body A and includes white wine and cream chicken and noodles it is a white soup 7 The Modern Cook was an influential guide book for Victorian women who wanted to emulate the Queen it was a cooking bible in many households ensuring its currency at home and in upper end restaurants 8 Contrary to beliefs that Queen Victoria ate the soup frequently it rarely appeared on the royal menus and never as a brown soup 5 Variations on Francatelli s recipe appeared throughout the 19th century Typical recipes called for calf s feet and Madeira wine 9 and was sometimes darkened to a deep brown with caramel colouring and spiced with cayenne pepper as in a recipe by the Waldorf Astoria s head chef Oscar Tschirky 10 A white version that uses Windsor beans was published in 1855 11 Some were made from mutton beef and rice 12 13 Agnes Marshall had a simple barley and meat version 14 and French chef Auguste Escoffier created a creamy Windsor soup at the Savoy Hotel restaurant in the 1890s a favourite eatery for English royalty including the Prince of Wales 15 16 Decline and fall Edit nbsp Batcherlor s Windsor Soup 1942 By the 1920s enthusiasm for Windsor soup was perceptibly waning 17 As Evelyn Waugh noted in 1924 things were not as good as they used to be including Windsor soup 17 Windsor soup was transforming into an icon of dreary British cuisine 18 Michael Bateman states In the 1930s the art of soupmaking sank to an all time low and every hotel offered disgusting brown soups so called Brown Windsor soup 19 The so called brown Windsor soup first appeared in the 1920s when it was served aux masses in cafes and cafeterias Examples include Cadena Cafes Portsmouth which advertised Soup Tomato or Brown Windsor on its menu dated 24 February 1926 20 Bobby s of Queens Road Bristol advertised Potage Brown Windsor under the soup heading on its menu dated 13 February 1931 21 The Scottish department store Isaac Benzie advertised Brown Windsor soup in a menu published 14 December 1933 22 The easy availability of tinned and packet soups was driving soup in new directions 17 for example there was a Batchelor s Windsor Soup sold in a tin can during the 1940s 23 24 With wartime rationing some towns kept stocks of canned Windsor 23 25 P D James reminisced that during the war brown Windsor soup featured largely on the menus of British Restaurants set up under the aegis of the Ministry of Food the soup tasted of gravy browning 26 Author Eric Wright recalled being indigent in 1945 and eating free Windsor soup at a cafeteria run by the Asiatic Petroleum Company 27 After the war food rationing continued into the 1950s Leftovers would be pureed or mixed into brown mystery soups whose connection with the original Windsor recipe may have been in name only 28 The soup may have been nothing more than a watery tasteless gruel made from bouillon powder and starch thickener 28 or leftover cans I can remember cans of Windsor in my grandmother s larder which she kept from the war Humorously thought of as only to be used in the event of an invasion 28 Satirists began poking fun at Brown Windsor in the 1950s because on the one hand it was rubbish served in shabby establishments on the other it had a pretentiously posh name 28 Annie Gray notes that despite the jokes it was in fact a real soup but one largely associated with shabby boarding houses trying to sound posh 5 Nicholas Parsons confirms It was very much part of the culture when I was young Nearly every cheap hotel had brown Windsor soup I think hotels used all the remains of their meat and it was always on the menu It was such a staple item you either laughed at it or ignored it It was an object of ridicule and humour 28 For example in a play published in 1958 John Osborne asserts the only fit place for it is the sink 29 Satirists often say they had only ever had it once for example Jane Garmey recalled having tasted it once I knew better than to risk the experience again 30 and Nicholas Parsons jokingly said he only ever had it the once 28 Honor Tracy observed Anyone fool enough to eat in a provincial English hotel for whatever reason deserves no sympathy this nation seems hooked on Brown Windsor soup 31 By 1984 it was becoming legendary as R W Apple Jr noticed Slowly ever so slowly over the last twenty five years good restaurants have come into being in almost all parts of the kingdom Brown Windsor soup thanks heavens is an endangered species 32 Myths and legends EditExternal image nbsp A modern Brown Windsor soup airplane meal UK to Saudi Arabia With croutons and parsley Windsor soup was traditionally served with Madeira wine A number of myths legends and assumptions grew around the soup Some sources assert that Brown Windsor soup was not popular in reality and was primarily a joke meme that originated with the 1953 Ealing Studios film comedy The Captain s Paradise By this argument the soup s name was repeated in the memoirs of many authors over the following decades who misremembered intentionally or otherwise the popularity or even existence of the soup to artistic or humorous effect 33 34 As noted by John Lanchester There is a sinister genius in the very name Brown Windsor soup 35 One researcher found a number of recipes for brown soup that is a bone based broth with some similarities to Windsor soup and hypothesized there might have been a commingling of Windsor soup and brown soup in the memories of later commentators 24 This connection was made in a 1958 New Yorker restaurant review The cold meat was quite good and the flavour of the fine brown soup recalls the war to which another reviewer responds A fine brown soup formally listed on British menus as a Brown Windsor soup is as hard to imagine as a fine kind of dislocated elbow 36 A number of authors have noted the similarities with Brown Windsor soap which was well known in the Victorian era and suggested there might be a connection 5 2 17 Etymologist Michael Quinion incorrectly reports the earliest known reference is from 1943 in The Fancy by Monica Dickens 2 In 1915 author Edith Siepen says the soup originated in France probably a misunderstanding due to the early French name in The Modern Cook 9 Windsor and or Brown Windsor has been associated with the British Railways by a number of authors although historians have had trouble verifying it ever existed Malcolm Timperley a researcher in the National Railway Museum s library and archives reported that their team specifically researched the existence of Brown Windsor soup in British dining cars After checking scores of menus dating back to the nineteenth century they failed to find any mention of it 37 Nevertheless according to author Paul Spicer Brown Windsor was popular on British railways and was often said to have built the British Empire 38 Author Jane Garmey writing about it in 1981 said Brown Windsor was continually served by British Railways in their dining cars and from her childhood memories she assumed it was the only soup that could be served on a train due to its ubiquity 30 Fictional barrister Rumpole of the Bailey mentioned eating it on the Great Western Railway in a book of short stories dated 1978 although Quinion questions whether this is an endorsement of the soup the extract confirms that the soup was at one time a staple of the restaurant menus of British Railways in Quinion s view 39 In popular culture EditThe magazine The Poke advertised a satirical can of Brown Windsor soup as part of a Jubilee Collection available for about 40 complete with silver spoon and reportedly made directly from the sewage outflow of Windsor Castle 40 Brown Windsor soup is identified in the film Carry On Regardless 1961 by Kenneth Connor as the dish he is splashed with having knocked over a waiter s tray on a train and in Carry On Abroad 1972 by Kenneth Williams in a scene in the hotel s restaurant where the soup is mistakenly referred to as Brown Bristols by the Spanish hotel manager played by Peter Butterworth In an episode of The Goon Show entitled The Macreekie Rising of 74 Brown Windsor soup is used as a weapon and mocked as more deficient in calories than Scots porridge by the impressively stout Neddy Seagoon In Rumpole of the Bailey episode the Alternative Society Rumpole has an inner monologue while riding a train in which he yearns for a real old fashioned railway lunch starting with a touch of Brown Windsor soup this leads to synchronism with a question in his crossword puzzle first course for coloured royals In Hancock s Half Hour episode Air Crew Only the in flight meal starts with Brown Windsor soup just burnt enough to leave that attractive brown ring sticking round the edge of the plate a line re used from the radio episode The End of the Series 1955 41 Hancock also mentions it in The Espresso Bar 1952 42 and in a sketch in the fourth episode of his 1956 Associated Rediffusion series The Tony Hancock Show 43 In the Agatha Christie s Poirot episode Hercule Poirot s Christmas Poirot asks a waiter What is this Brown Windsor Soup to which the waiter responds It is soup from Windsor later Poirot laments to the waiter that the Brown Windsor soup he has been served doesn t look very delicieux 44 In Basil the Rat the last episode of Fawlty Towers the upper class couple who have the rat under their table order a Windsor soup as their starter 45 In the 2021 BBC One TV series Around the World in 80 Days the lead character Phileas Fogg David Tennant goes to the Reform Club each morning where his friends know in advance what he will order for lunch Brown Windsor soup To which one friend tells him Some are born to adventure and others frankly are not 46 It is an anachronistic joke Brown Windsor Soup is not known to have existed prior to the 1920s See also EditGeographically indicated foods of the United Kingdom Hot pot disambiguation Lancashire hotpot List of soups PottageReferences EditNotes Before gelatin became widely available as a commercial product the best gelatin for use in soups and deserts was derived from boiling calves feet Citations Hibbert Christopher 2001 Queen Victoria A Personal History New York Da Capo Press p 469 ISBN 0 306 81085 9 a b c Quinion Michael 15 March 2014 Brown Windsor Soup World Wide Words Newsletter World Wide Words Retrieved 15 March 2014 French Tart 21 September 2009 Queen Victoria s Brown Windsor Soup recipe Food com Retrieved 22 March 2014 Lucy Lethbridge 28 May 2017 The Greedy Queen Eating With Victoria review nothing dainty about these dishes The Guardian Retrieved 28 April 2020 a b c d Annie Gray 2017 The Greedy Queen Eating with Victoria Profile Books pp 357 358 ISBN 978 1781256824 Brown Windsor soup which is often cited as a favourite dish of the Queen did not exist at all in the nineteenth century The earliest references are from the 1930s and by the time it became well known in the 1950s it was a music hall joke and there are suggestions the term came into being as a typical punning mixture of an established upper class soup and a type of soap known as Brown Windsor These dubious connotations notwithstanding it did become a real soup largely associated with shabby boarding houses trying to sound posh There was a soup called Windsor Soup not brown but it rarely appeared on the royal menus John Simpson 1834 Simpson s Cookery Improved and Modernised London Baldwin and Cradock p 48 a b Charles Elme Francatelli 1846 The Modern Cook A Practical Guide to the Culinary Art in all its Branches London Richard Bentley p 88 89 Fisher M F K 15 September 1974 Food The Arts Fine and Culinary of 19th Century America The New York Times Retrieved 18 January 2016 a b Edith Siepen 1915 Continental Cookery for the English Table S Paul p 6 Oscar Tschirky 1896 The Cook Book Chicago Werner p 45 G W 11 September 1855 The Household Country Gentleman s Companion XIV CCCLXIII 430 Charles Herman Senn 1894 Practical Gastronomy and Culinary Dictionary London Spottiswoode and Company p 101 Margaret Alice Fairclough 1911 The Ideal Cookery Book London Waverley Book Company p 80 Agnes Marshall 1894 Mrs A B Marshall s Cookery Book London Simpkin Marshall Hamilton p 69 Auguste Escoffier 1969 The Escoffier Cook Book A Guide to the Fine Art of Cookery New York Crown p 258 Retrieved 9 April 2020 Luke Bar 2018 Ritz and Escoffier The Hotelier The Chef and the Rise of the Leisure Class Clarkson Potter ISBN 978 0804186292 a b c d John Ayto 2002 An A Z of food and drink Oxford University Press p 44 Even in the 1920s enthusiasm for it was perceptively waning Evelyn Waugh recorded in The Isis Magazine 5 March 1924 that Gilbert Murray admitted that there were many things which were not as good as they used to be Windsor soup and marmalade and things like that and the easy availability of tinned and packet soup had virtually seen brown Windsor off by the 1960s Bee Wilson 2012 Consider the Fork A History of How We Cook and Eat Basic Books p 25 ISBN 9780465021765 It is interesting then that despite their fabulously well equipped kitchens the Victorians have a reputation for having ruined British cooking reducing everything to a mass of brown Windsor soup Some historians have argued that this reputation is unjustified Michael Bateman 31 January 1993 Soup of the evening beautiful Soup Lewis Carroll hymned its praises but it s been out of fashion for years Michael Bateman on the delicious revival of a traditional first course The Independent Retrieved 21 April 2020 In the 1930s the art of soupmaking sank to an all time low and every hotel offered disgusting brown soups so called Brown Windsor soup or white soups so called cream of this and that but mostly flour and thinned down milk But after the Second World War tinned soup represented the peak of our gastronomic desires Britons consumed three times more than any other nation in Europe The Portsmouth Evening News 24 February 1926 Page 3 advertisement for Cadena Cafes left column Last accessed May 2015 via British Newspaper Archive Western Daily Press Bristol 13 February 1931 Page 9 advertisement for Bobby s of Queens Road left column Last accessed February 2015 via British Newspaper Archive Aberdeen Press and Journal 14 December 1933 page 12 advertisement second column top Last accessed February 2015 via British Newspaper Archive a b J Alun Evans 1946 Borough of Port Talbot Annual Report of the Medical Officer of Health for 1945 p 46 a b Estelle 16 July 2015 Brown Windsor Soup The Skittish Library Retrieved 23 October 2015 C E James 1943 Medical Officers Report 1942 Cricklade and Wootton Bassett England Rural District Council p 4 P D James 2000 Time To Be In Earnest A Fragment of Autobiography Bath Chivers Press p 100 101 brown Windsor soup featured largely on the menus of British restaurants set up under the aegis of the Ministry of Food to provide inexpensive and healthy meals the soup tasted of gravy browning Eric Wright 2002 Always Give a Penny to a Blind Man A Memoir Bath Chivers Press p 162 a b c d e f Tim Hayward 16 February 2015 Soup and the British The Food Programme radio broadcast BBC Radio 4 Archived from the original on 24 April 2020 John Osborne 1958 Epitaph for George Dillon A Play in Three Acts New York Criterion Books p 22 If you had any understanding at all you would know what a bitter taste this kind of watery gruel must have This is the Brown Windsor soup of love alright and the only fit place for it is the sink If this is the kind of thing you and your pals would dole out for the proletariat and its poor grubby artists you had better think again a b Jane Garmey 1981 Great British Cooking A Well Kept Secret New York Random House p 30 This hearty beef soup once extremely fashionable has all but disappeared For many years a particularly unappetising version was continually served by British Railways in their dining cars which may explain its present demise Throughout my childhood I assumed it was the only soup that could be served on a train and having tasted it once I knew better than to risk the experience again Honor Tracy 1983 The Heart of England London H Hamilton p 10 Anyone fool enough to eat in a provincial English hotel for whatever reason deserves no sympathy As I remember it there was a choice of prawn cocktail or Brown Windsor soup this nation seems hooked on Brown Windsor soup R W Apple Jr 1984 Farewell to Brown Windsor Soup In A M Rosenthal ed The Sophisticated Traveler Beloved Cities Europe New York Villard Books p 142 Slowly ever so slowly over the last twenty five years good restaurants have come into being in almost all parts of the kingdom Brown Windsor soup thanks heavens is an endangered species Lovefood Team 27 February 2013 The curious tale of Brown Windsor soup Love Food Retrieved 5 May 2013 Staff writer 20 February 2013 Brown Windsor Information The Foods of England The Foods of England Retrieved 5 May 2013 John Lanchester 1996 The Debt to Pleasure London Picador p 8 The Talk of the Town The New Yorker 15 November 1958 Retrieved 24 April 2020 The publisher has now altered the original sentence which read The cold meat was quite good amp only the flavour of the brown soup recalled the war to The cold meat was quite good amp the flavour of the fine brown soup recalls the war A fine brown soup formally listed on British menus as a Brown Windsor soup is as hard to imagine as a fine kind of dislocated elbow The readiness of the solicitor to detect libel in so non Committal a reference to soup our man thinks betrays a national sense of culinary guilt Timperley Malcolm July 2016 Lines of Enquiry Backtrack 30 7 387 Paul Spicer 2010 The Temptress The Scandalous Life of Alice de Janze and the Mysterious Death of Lord Erroll St Martin s Press p 50 This beef and vegetable broth was very popular during Victorian and Edwardian times especially on the railways and was often said to have built the British Empire Quinion Michael 22 March 2014 Brown Windsor soup World Wide Words Newsletter World Wide Words Retrieved 15 March 2014 Brown Windsor Soup Jubilee Collection The Poke thepoke co uk Retrieved 23 March 2014 Galton and Simpson 15 February 1955 The End of the Series Series 1 Hancock s Half Hour radio broadcast BBC Sounds Galton and Simpson 16 December 1956 The Espresso Bar Season 4 Hancock s Half Hour radio broadcast BBC Sounds Archived from the original on 3 May 2020 Eric Sykes 18 May 1956 The Tony Hancock Show May 18 1956 The Tony Hancock Show Television broadcast Associated Rediffusion Agatha Christies Poirot 1989 Episode Scripts The Curious Tale of Brown Windsor Soup lovefood com 15 November 2016 Retrieved 23 February 2017 James Rampton 23 December 2021 David Tennant on Around the World in 80 Days Phileas Fogg He s a sheltered public schoolboy i Retrieved 27 December 2021 External links Edit nbsp Wikibooks Cookbook has a recipe module on Brown Windsor Soup Foods of England Project Brown Windsor Soup Retrieved 29 August 2015 The Old Foodie Windsor Soup Retrieved 25 March 2014 Estelle 16 July 2015 Brown Windsor Soup The Skittish Library Retrieved 23 October 2015 Gary Jones 26 April 2023 The muddy history of Brown Windsor Soup Retrieved 27 April 2023 Marguerite Patten 2015 Windsor Soup recipe Marguerite Patten s Century of British Cooking Grub Street Cookery pp 18 20 ISBN 9781910690055 Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Windsor soup amp oldid 1153081947, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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