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2 Times

"2 Times" is the debut single of British singer Ann Lee.[3] It was released in Italy in December 1998 as the lead single from her debut album, Dreams (1999), and was issued worldwide the following year. The single peaked at number two on the UK Singles Chart, reached number one in Flanders, and entered the top 10 in several countries, including Australia, Germany, Ireland, Italy, and New Zealand.

"2 Times"
Single by Ann Lee
from the album Dreams
ReleasedDecember 1998 (1998-12)[1]
Length3:46
LabelX-Energy[2]
Songwriter(s)
  • Alfredo Larry Pignagnoli
  • Daniela Galli
  • Paul Sears
  • Annerley Gordon
Producer(s)
  • Marco Sorcini
  • Alfredo Larry Pignagnoli
Ann Lee singles chronology
"2 Times"
(1998)
"Voices"
(1999)
Music video
"2 Times" on YouTube

Background and composition Edit

Ann Lee's previous work on a large number of Eurodance projects would help her receive a contract with Alfredo Larry Pignagnoli, with whom she had already worked with on the Whigfield project as a songwriter, amongst others. He worked on a track with Marco Sorcini called "Two Times".[4] The song is played in a F major key in common time at a BPM of 132, and throughout follows chord progression F-C7.[5]

Critical reception Edit

A reviewer from Daily Record wrote, "This sounds like a line-dancing song reworked for the techno market, but it's worked for Ann Lee who has already topped the charts across Europe."[6] The Guardian described it as "giddy".[7]

Commercial performance Edit

The song achieved success in many European countries where it was a top-10 hit, particularly in Denmark, Scotland, and the Flanders region of Belgium, where it reached number one.[8][9][10] It peaked number two in Ireland, New Zealand and the United Kingdom;[11][9][12] it has sold over 500,000 copies in the UK as of 2014.[13] It was also a top-10 hit in Australia after initially receiving frequent airplay on Melbourne radio station KIX FM.[9][14]

Music video Edit

The song's accompanying music video was released in 1999 by Energy Productions.[15] It sees Ann Lee performing the song during a day in her life, beginning with her waking up in the morning in her hut. She cooks, plays with her doll, takes a stroll on the beach and has a bath in her bathtub. The video ends with Lee sleeping in her bed. The singer has noted that the structure and cinematography of the video was very similar to that of Peter Gabriel's "Sledgehammer"; "The two videos were similar! I remember perfectly the 'sledge video' (love Peter Gabriel!) and my movements are in fact very similar - but I think the similarity ends there".[16] Parts of the music video were filmed in Whitstable, Kent.

Track listings Edit

Charts Edit

Certifications Edit

Region Certification Certified units/sales
Australia (ARIA)[57] Platinum 70,000^
Austria (IFPI Austria)[58] Gold 25,000*
Belgium (BEA)[59] Platinum 50,000*
France (SNEP)[60] Gold 250,000*
Germany (BVMI)[61] Gold 250,000^
New Zealand (RMNZ)[62] Gold 5,000*
Sweden (GLF)[63] Gold 15,000^
United Kingdom (BPI)[64] Gold 500,000[13]

* Sales figures based on certification alone.
^ Shipments figures based on certification alone.

Release history Edit

Region Date Format(s) Label(s) Ref.
Italy December 1998 12-inch vinyl X-Energy [1]
March 1999 CD
Netherlands 24 April 1999 High Fashion [33]
Germany 28 April 1999 ZYX Music [33]
United Kingdom 4 October 1999
  • 12-inch vinyl
  • CD
  • cassette
Systematic [65]

References Edit

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Critical reception 3 Commercial performance 4 Music video 5 Track listings 6 Charts 6 1 Weekly charts 6 2 Year end charts 7 Certifications 8 Release history 9 ReferencesBackground and composition EditAnn Lee s previous work on a large number of Eurodance projects would help her receive a contract with Alfredo Larry Pignagnoli with whom she had already worked with on the Whigfield project as a songwriter amongst others He worked on a track with Marco Sorcini called Two Times 4 The song is played in a F major key in common time at a BPM of 132 and throughout follows chord progression F C7 5 Critical reception EditA reviewer from Daily Record wrote This sounds like a line dancing song reworked for the techno market but it s worked for Ann Lee who has already topped the charts across Europe 6 The Guardian described it as giddy 7 Commercial performance EditThe song achieved success in many European countries where it was a top 10 hit particularly in Denmark Scotland and the Flanders region of Belgium where it reached number one 8 9 10 It peaked number two in Ireland New Zealand and the United Kingdom 11 9 12 it has sold over 500 000 copies in the UK as of 2014 13 It was also a top 10 hit in Australia after initially receiving frequent airplay on Melbourne radio station KIX FM 9 14 Music video EditThe song s accompanying music video was released in 1999 by Energy Productions 15 It sees Ann Lee performing the song during a day in her life beginning with her waking up in the morning in her hut She cooks plays with her doll takes a stroll on the beach and has a bath in her bathtub The video ends with Lee sleeping in her bed The singer has noted that the structure and cinematography of the video was very similar to that of Peter Gabriel s Sledgehammer The two videos were similar I remember perfectly the sledge video love Peter Gabriel and my movements are in fact very similar but I think the similarity ends there 16 Parts of the music video were filmed in Whitstable Kent Track listings EditItalian 12 inch single 17 A1 2 Times original extended mix 6 32 A2 2 Times G side 5 32 B1 2 Times GambaClub 5 14 B2 2 Times GambaDub 4 15 B3 2 Times original edit mix 3 46Italian and Australian CD single 18 19 2 Times original edit mix 3 46 2 Times original extended mix 6 32 2 Times G side 5 32 2 Times GambaClub 5 14 2 Times GambaDub 4 15German maxi CD single 20 2 Times original edit mix radio edit 3 46 2 Times Gamba club 5 14 2 Times original extended mix 6 32 2 Times Gamba dub 4 15 2 Times G Side 5 32 German and Dutch CD single 21 22 2 Times original edit mix 3 46 2 Times original extended mix 6 32UK CD single 23 2 Times original radio edit 2 Times Gamba club 2 Times Bulletproof Euro mix UK 12 inch single 24 A1 2 Times original extended mix B1 2 Times Gamba club mix B2 2 Times Bulletproof Euro mix UK cassette single 25 2 Times original radio edit 2 Times Gamba club Charts EditWeekly charts Edit Chart 1999 2000 PeakpositionAustralia ARIA 9 4Austria O3 Austria Top 40 26 3Belgium Ultratop 50 Flanders 27 1Belgium Ultratop 50 Wallonia 28 6Canada Nielsen SoundScan 29 14Canada Dance Urban RPM 30 13Denmark IFPI 8 1Europe Eurochart Hot 100 31 5France SNEP 32 9Germany Official German Charts 33 5Hungary Mahasz 34 10Iceland Islenski Listinn Topp 40 35 7Ireland IRMA 11 2Italy FIMI 36 3Netherlands Dutch Top 40 37 4Netherlands Single Top 100 38 4New Zealand Recorded Music NZ 39 2Norway VG lista 40 4Scotland OCC 10 1Spain PROMUSICAE 41 13Sweden Sverigetopplistan 42 14Switzerland Schweizer Hitparade 43 10UK Singles OCC 12 2UK Dance OCC 44 7 Year end charts Edit Chart 1999 PositionAustralia ARIA 45 20Austria O3 Austria Top 40 46 15Belgium Ultratop 50 Flanders 47 12Belgium Ultratop 50 Wallonia 48 33Europe Eurochart Hot 100 49 23France SNEP 50 28Germany Official German Charts 51 28Netherlands Dutch Top 40 52 28Netherlands Single Top 100 53 28Romania Romanian Top 100 54 32UK Singles OCC 55 21UK Pop Music Week 56 5Certifications EditRegion Certification Certified units salesAustralia ARIA 57 Platinum 70 000 Austria IFPI Austria 58 Gold 25 000 Belgium BEA 59 Platinum 50 000 France SNEP 60 Gold 250 000 Germany BVMI 61 Gold 250 000 New Zealand RMNZ 62 Gold 5 000 Sweden GLF 63 Gold 15 000 United Kingdom BPI 64 Gold 500 000 13 Sales figures based on certification alone Shipments figures based on certification alone Release history EditRegion Date Format s Label s Ref Italy December 1998 12 inch vinyl X Energy 1 March 1999 CDNetherlands 24 April 1999 High Fashion 33 Germany 28 April 1999 CDmaxi CD ZYX Music 33 United Kingdom 4 October 1999 12 inch vinylCDcassette Systematic 65 References Edit a b News X Energy Records Archived from the original on 10 January 2001 Retrieved 1 October 2023 Hits of the World Italy Billboard Vol 111 no 11 13 March 1999 p 56 Retrieved 3 May 2019 Italy For Italo Dance Pop Business Isn t Great It s Huge Billboard Vol 112 no 26 24 June 2000 p 86 Retrieved 18 January 2019 Ann Lee Eurodance Encyclopedia Retrieved 24 April 2013 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