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.442 Webley

January 01, 1970

The .442 Webley (also known as the ".442 Revolver Centre Fire" in Great Britain, the .442 Rook long (kangaroo) in Australia, the "10.5x17mmR" or ".442 Kurz" in Europe, and ".44 Webley" or ".442 R.I.C." in the United States)[1] is a British centrefire revolver cartridge.

.442 Webley
.44 Bull Dog (Peters), .442 Webley (UMC) and .442 Revolver (Eley)
TypeRevolver
Place of originBritish Empire
Production history
Designed1868
Produced1868–1950s
Specifications
Case typerimmed, straight
Bullet diameter.436 in (11.1 mm)
Neck diameter.47 in (12 mm)
Base diameter.472 in (12.0 mm)
Rim diameter.503 in (12.8 mm)
Rim thickness.033 in (0.84 mm)
Case length.69 in (18 mm)
Overall length1.1 in (28 mm)
Rifling twist1:20
Primer typeLarge
Ballistic performance
Bullet mass/type Velocity Energy
200 gr (13 g) (Kynoch ball, factory load) 700 ft/s (210 m/s) 239 ft⋅lbf (324 J)
200 gr (13 g) (Remington factory load) 715 ft/s (218 m/s) 230 ft⋅lbf (310 J)
Source(s): Barnes & Amber 1972

History edit

Introduced in 1868, the .442 (11.2mm) Webley round was used in the Webley RIC revolver. This was the standard service weapon of the Royal Irish Constabulary[2] (RIC, hence the revolver's name), which were also chambered in (among others) .450 Adams and 476/.455.[3] Lt. Col. George Custer is believed to have carried a pair of RIC revolvers (presented to him in 1869 by Lord Berkley Paget)[4] at the Battle of the Little Bighorn.[5][6][7]

A black powder round, the .442 originally used a 15–19 grain (gr) (0.972–1.23 g) charge behind a 200–220 gr (13–14.3 g) bullet.[8] This loading was later joined by a smokeless variety.[8]

At one time, the .442 Webley was a popular chambering in self-defence or "pocket" guns (so named for being designed to be carried in a pocket, what today might be a known as a snubnose or carry gun), such as the widely copied Webley British Bulldog pocket revolver.[9][10]

The cartridge was moderately effective,[11] being roughly similar in power to the contemporary .38 S&W,[12] .41 Colt,[13] or .44 S&W American,[14] and somewhat less potent than the later 7.65mm Parabellum,[15] .38 Special[16] or .45 ACP.[17] It was not very suitable at anything but close range.[2]

Smokeless .442 Webley loads continued to be commercially offered in the U.S. until 1940[8] and in the United Kingdom and Europe until the 1950s.

 
Remington/UMC .442 Webley box labels

See also edit

References edit

  1. ^ Barnes, p. 170, ".44 Webley/.44 R.I.C.".
  2. ^ a b Barnes, p. 170, ".44 Webley/.44 R.I.C."
  3. ^ Dowell, William Chipchase. The Webley Story (Kirkland, WA: Commonwealth Heritage Foundation, 1987), p. 62.
  4. ^ Elman, Robert. Fired in Anger: The Personal Handguns of American Heroes and Villains (Garden City, NY: Doubleday & Company, 1968), p. 232.
  5. ^ Elman, p. 231.
  6. ^ Doerner, John A. . Martin Pate. Archived from the original on 2009-10-21. Retrieved 2006-08-03.
  7. ^ Gallear, Mark (2001). . Custer Association of Great Britain. Archived from the original on 2006-09-08. Retrieved 2006-08-03.
  8. ^ a b c Barnes, p. 170, ".44 Webley/.44 R.I.C."
  9. ^ Dowell, p. 68.
  10. ^ Ficken, Homer R. . Archived from the original on 2012-02-23. Retrieved 2011-04-03.
  11. ^ Barnes, p. 170, ".44 Webley".
  12. ^ Barnes, p. 163, ".38 Smith & Wesson".
  13. ^ Barnes, p. 170, ".44 Webley/.44 R.I.C.", and p. 165, ".41 Long Colt".
  14. ^ Barnes, p. 167, ".44 Smith & Wesson American", & p. 170, ".44 Webley/.44 R.I.C."
  15. ^ Barnes, p. 153, ".30 (7.65mm) Parabellum".
  16. ^ Barnes, p. 163, ".38 Smith & Wesson Special".
  17. ^ Barnes, p. 171, ".45 Automatic".

Sources edit

  • Barnes, Frank C., ed. by John T. Amber. ".44 Webley/.44 R.I.C.", in Cartridges of the World, pp. 170 & 177. Northfield, IL: DBI Books, 1972. ISBN 0-695-80326-3.
  • ______ and _____. ".30 (7.65mm) Parabellum", in Cartridges of the World, p. 153. Northfield, IL: DBI Books, 1972. ISBN 0-695-80326-3.
  • ______ and _____. ".38 Smith & Wesson", in Cartridges of the World, p. 163. Northfield, IL: DBI Books, 1972. ISBN 0-695-80326-3.
  • ______ and _____. ".38 Smith & Wesson Special", in Cartridges of the World, p. 163. Northfield, IL: DBI Books, 1972. ISBN 0-695-80326-3.
  • ______ and _____. ".41 Long Colt", in Cartridges of the World, p. 165. Northfield, IL: DBI Books, 1972. ISBN 0-695-80326-3.
  • ______ and _____. ".44 Smith & Wesson American", in Cartridges of the World, p. 167. Northfield, IL: DBI Books, 1972. ISBN 0-695-80326-3.
  • ______ and _____. ".45 Automatic", in Cartridges of the World, p. 171. Northfield, IL: DBI Books, 1972. ISBN 0-695-80326-3.
  • Dowell, William Chipchase. The Webley Story. Kirkland, WA: Commonwealth Heritage Foundation, 1987.
  • Elman, Robert. Fired in Anger: The Personal Handguns of American Heroes and Villains. Garden City, NY: Doubleday & Company, 1968.
  • Ficken, H. R.. Webley's The British Bull Dog Revolver, Serial Numbering and Variations". Retrieved on 2006-08-03.

January 01, 1970
webley, also, known, revolver, centre, fire, great, britain, rook, long, kangaroo, australia, 5x17mmr, kurz, europe, webley, united, states, british, centrefire, revolver, cartridge, bull, peters, revolver, eley, typerevolverplace, originbritish, empireproduct. The 442 Webley also known as the 442 Revolver Centre Fire in Great Britain the 442 Rook long kangaroo in Australia the 10 5x17mmR or 442 Kurz in Europe and 44 Webley or 442 R I C in the United States 1 is a British centrefire revolver cartridge 442 Webley 44 Bull Dog Peters 442 Webley UMC and 442 Revolver Eley TypeRevolverPlace of originBritish EmpireProduction historyDesigned1868Produced1868 1950sSpecificationsCase typerimmed straightBullet diameter 436 in 11 1 mm Neck diameter 47 in 12 mm Base diameter 472 in 12 0 mm Rim diameter 503 in 12 8 mm Rim thickness 033 in 0 84 mm Case length 69 in 18 mm Overall length1 1 in 28 mm Rifling twist1 20Primer typeLargeBallistic performanceBullet mass type Velocity Energy200 gr 13 g Kynoch ball factory load 700 ft s 210 m s 239 ft lbf 324 J 200 gr 13 g Remington factory load 715 ft s 218 m s 230 ft lbf 310 J Source s Barnes amp Amber 1972 Contents 1 History 2 See also 3 References 4 SourcesHistory editIntroduced in 1868 the 442 11 2mm Webley round was used in the Webley RIC revolver This was the standard service weapon of the Royal Irish Constabulary 2 RIC hence the revolver s name which were also chambered in among others 450 Adams and 476 455 3 Lt Col George Custer is believed to have carried a pair of RIC revolvers presented to him in 1869 by Lord Berkley Paget 4 at the Battle of the Little Bighorn 5 6 7 A black powder round the 442 originally used a 15 19 grain gr 0 972 1 23 g charge behind a 200 220 gr 13 14 3 g bullet 8 This loading was later joined by a smokeless variety 8 At one time the 442 Webley was a popular chambering in self defence or pocket guns so named for being designed to be carried in a pocket what today might be a known as a snubnose or carry gun such as the widely copied Webley British Bulldog pocket revolver 9 10 The cartridge was moderately effective 11 being roughly similar in power to the contemporary 38 S amp W 12 41 Colt 13 or 44 S amp W American 14 and somewhat less potent than the later 7 65mm Parabellum 15 38 Special 16 or 45 ACP 17 It was not very suitable at anything but close range 2 Smokeless 442 Webley loads continued to be commercially offered in the U S until 1940 8 and in the United Kingdom and Europe until the 1950s nbsp Remington UMC 442 Webley box labelsSee also edit 44 Bull Dog List of cartridges by caliber 11mm caliber List of handgun cartridgesReferences edit Barnes p 170 44 Webley 44 R I C a b Barnes p 170 44 Webley 44 R I C Dowell William Chipchase The Webley Story Kirkland WA Commonwealth Heritage Foundation 1987 p 62 Elman Robert Fired in Anger The Personal Handguns of American Heroes and Villains Garden City NY Doubleday amp Company 1968 p 232 Elman p 231 Doerner John A Lt Col George Armstrong Custer at the Battle of the Little Bighorn Martin Pate Archived from the original on 2009 10 21 Retrieved 2006 08 03 Gallear Mark 2001 Guns at the Little Bighorn Custer Association of Great Britain Archived from the original on 2006 09 08 Retrieved 2006 08 03 a b c Barnes p 170 44 Webley 44 R I C Dowell p 68 Ficken Homer R Webley s The British Bull Dog Revolver Serial Numbering and Variations Archived from the original on 2012 02 23 Retrieved 2011 04 03 Barnes p 170 44 Webley Barnes p 163 38 Smith amp Wesson Barnes p 170 44 Webley 44 R I C and p 165 41 Long Colt Barnes p 167 44 Smith amp Wesson American amp p 170 44 Webley 44 R I C Barnes p 153 30 7 65mm Parabellum Barnes p 163 38 Smith amp Wesson Special Barnes p 171 45 Automatic Sources editBarnes Frank C ed by John T Amber 44 Webley 44 R I C in Cartridges of the World pp 170 amp 177 Northfield IL DBI Books 1972 ISBN 0 695 80326 3 and 30 7 65mm Parabellum in Cartridges of the World p 153 Northfield IL DBI Books 1972 ISBN 0 695 80326 3 and 38 Smith amp Wesson in Cartridges of the World p 163 Northfield IL DBI Books 1972 ISBN 0 695 80326 3 and 38 Smith amp Wesson Special in Cartridges of the World p 163 Northfield IL DBI Books 1972 ISBN 0 695 80326 3 and 41 Long Colt in Cartridges of the World p 165 Northfield IL DBI Books 1972 ISBN 0 695 80326 3 and 44 Smith amp Wesson American in Cartridges of the World p 167 Northfield IL DBI Books 1972 ISBN 0 695 80326 3 and 45 Automatic in Cartridges of the World p 171 Northfield IL DBI Books 1972 ISBN 0 695 80326 3 Dowell William Chipchase The Webley Story Kirkland WA Commonwealth Heritage Foundation 1987 Elman Robert Fired in Anger The Personal Handguns of American Heroes and Villains Garden City NY Doubleday amp Company 1968 Ficken H R Webley s The British Bull Dog Revolver Serial Numbering and Variations Retrieved on 2006 08 03 Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title 442 Webley amp oldid 1159035129, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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