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White Flag (band)

White Flag is an American punk rock band currently based in Los Angeles. Their current lineup consists of frontman Mike Mess (guitar), Jello B. Afro (bass), and Trace Element (drums). These members have been in the band since 1982, though many have rotated in and out. White Flag has a discography that ranges from their 1982 debut R is for Rocket to 2010's Benefit For Cats.

White Flag
OriginSunnymead, California
GenresPunk rock
Years active1982–present
LabelsGasatanka Records
MembersJello B. Afro
Mike Mess
Trace Element
Past members
 

History edit

White Flag formed in 1982 in Sunnymead,[3] a community in California's Inland Empire, which is now part of the city of Moreno Valley.[4] The original core lineup, which included Pat Fear, Trace Element, Doug Graves, and El Fee, released their self-released debut album S Is for Space the same year.[5]

In contrast to other bands at the time, White Flag took an anti-drug, pro-Reagan, anti-communist, pro-Christian stance as a faux image, with Fear dressing up as a police officer.[6]

They played their first two shows in the summer of 1982 at keg parties, before opening a show for Black Flag. A live version of this third show was included on the 25th anniversary deluxe reissue of S Is For Space. This version of the lineup featured Al Bum on lead vocals.[7]

In a 1983 Flipside interview, guitarist Pat Fear noted:

People give us a lot of shit for being called 'White Flag' and that we're ripping off Black Flag and all the Black Flag bros in Long Beach want to kill us — but the truth is Black Flag are our friends, Henry is like our biggest fan. So why are these Black Flag people trying to kick our asses? The whole reason for the name is to reintroduce anarchy back into the musical aspect of punk, because when it started out it wasn't political and it was not violent, like when Johnny Rotten said...he was not singing about anarchy, he wanted musical anarchy. Not social or government anarchy or violence and people blew it out of proportion.... So we're trying to get back to an anarchistic state of music...[8]

In 1984 the band released the album Third Strike, which featured Social Distortion singer Mike Ness singing harmonies on the song "Middle Class Hell".[9]

While mostly inactive in the 1990s, they released the album Eternally Undone in 1999.[10] In 2006 White Flag toured in Italy for the first time. As a souvenir of the group's first visit, the band released a limited edition, hand numbered 8 song 10-inch vinyl album, on Roma based RARO! Records, entitled "Piangi Con Me", which is now out of print.

In 2008, the band toured Europe twice, first in March (Germany and Netherlands), and then in June–July they did 23 gigs, including two with NOFX and the Adolescents. Some gigs in the U.S. with the Germs and the Adolescents followed.

In May 2010 the band released the 7-inch e.p. "Keepers of The Purple Twilight" on Target Earth Records limited to 300 copies. 2010 also saw the release of "Benefit For Cats" on Cupcake Records.

In 2011 Strange Magic Records released White Flag and Tony Adolescent's "Live at Bohemian Grove / White Flag & Tony" 7-inch EP. That same year the band, who were big fans of 70's seminal punk group The Runaways contributed the track "C'mon" to the controversial tribute album "Take It Or Leave It: A Tribute To The Original Queens of Noise: The Runaways". The song featured Michael Lee Smith, lead singer of the band Starz on lead vocals.

The current line-up, featured on the July 2010 vinyl only release "Benefit For Cats", performed their first Midwest shows in July 2010. With shows in Detroit, Cleveland, and Chicago, on July 15,16, and 17 respectively. The shows were record release parties for the album, as well as for the Russian release limited edition 7-inch e.p. "Two Pack", which is limited to only 100 copies, and is a split release with Russian band Citramons.

Pat Fear died on September 24, 2013.[11] The band continued on with members Trace Element, Jello B. Afro, and Mike Mess.[12]

Members edit

The punk rock names of band members were chosen to parody those of Jello Biafra, Mike Ness, and Pat Smear.

Current lineup edit

Former members edit

Discography edit

White Flag has a large discography. This is an incomplete list:

Studio albums edit

  • R is for Rocket (1982)
  • S is for Space (1983)[37]
  • Third Strike (1984)[38]
  • (WFO) (1985)
  • Feeding Frenzy (1986)
  • Peace (1986)
  • Zero Hour (1986)
  • Wild Kingdom (1987)[39]
  • Skate Across America (1995)[40]
  • Eternally Undone (2001)
  • History is Fiction (2002)[41]
  • T Is For Twenty (2006)[42]
  • Benefit For Cats (2010)

Eps and 7-inches edit

Splits edit

  • Tesco Vee and White Flag
  • Jail Jello! (1987) (split with Necros)
  • Sator Vs. White Flag (1994) (split with Sator)
  • White Flag/Baby Demons (2008)[44]
  • Two Pack Split (2010)
  • Levitate The Listener (with Versus You) (2011)
  • White Flag / Crise Total (with Crise Total) (2011)
  • Bbs Paranoicos/White Flag (2012)
  • White Flag & Tony Adolescent
  • White Flag/Shoplifters (2013)

Compilation albums edit

  • Sgt. Pepper (1987)
  • Thru the Trash Darkly (1993)
  • Step Back 10 (1996)[45]
  • R is for Rocket, U is for Unreleased (2003)
  • T Is For Twenty (2006)
  • Counterclockwise (2007)
  • Wild Kingdom/Zero Hour/Sgt. Pepper (2008)[46]

Live albums edit

  • Bleedin' In Sweden (1986)
  • History is Fiction (2003)

Albums contributed to edit

  • The Sound of Hollywood 3—Copulation (Mystic Records, 1984)[47]
  • Eat Me (BCT, 1984)
  • Desperate Teenage Lovedolls (1984)
  • Flipside Vinyl Fanzine Volume 1 (Gasatanka, 1984)
  • Mystic Sampler #3 (Mystic, 1986)
  • Another Shot for Bracken (Positive Force, 1986)
  • Rat Music for Rat People, Vol. 3 compilation (CD Presents, 1987)
  • 4 Bands That Could Change the World (Gasatanka, 1987)
  • Every Band Has a Shonen Knife Who Loves Them (Gasatanka, 1989)
  • Gabba Gabba Hey: A Tribute to the Ramones (Triple X Records, 1991)
  • Freedom of Choice: Yesterday's New Wave Hits As Performed By Today's Stars (1992)
  • Germs (Tribute) - A Small Circle Of Friends compilation (1996)
  • Short Music for Short People (1999)
  • Jardim Elétrico: A Tribute to Os Mutantes (2007)
  • Take It Or Leave It - A Tribute To The Queens of Noise: The Runaways (2011)

References edit

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  2. ^ "» RIP, Bill Bartell (September 24, 2013) AKA Pat Fear of White Flag The Music's Over". Themusicsover.com. 2013-09-24. Retrieved 2013-10-07.
  3. ^ "White Flag Albums and Discography". AllMusic.
  4. ^ "MORENO VALLEY: City's 30-year history includes little-known facts". 7 December 2014.
  5. ^ "White Flag Biography, Songs, & Albums". AllMusic.
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  8. ^ Al Kowalewski and Pete Landswick, "White Flag," Flipside, whole no. 37 (February 1983), pp. 54-55.
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  10. ^ "White Flag Biography, Songs, & Albums". AllMusic.
  11. ^ "MUSIC: White Flag's Bill Bartell (Pat Fear) has died". Blog.pe.com. 2013-09-24. Retrieved 2013-10-07.
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  18. ^ "R.I.P. Bill Bartell of White Flag – The Punk Vault". Punkvinyl.com. 2013-09-24. Retrieved 2013-10-07.
  19. ^ "» RIP, Bill Bartell (September 24, 2013) AKA Pat Fear of White Flag The Music's Over". Themusicsover.com. 2013-09-24. Retrieved 2013-10-07.
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  31. ^ "Eric Erlandson".
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  34. ^ "Mesa Lanes is More Than a New Band for Veteran Punk Nick Sjobeck. It's a Fresh Start. – OC Weekly".
  35. ^ "Tours: White Flag to tour Italy in February".
  36. ^ "Tours: White Flag to tour Italy in February".
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External links edit

  • White Flag at myspace.com
  • White Flag - BandToBand.com

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This article needs additional citations for verification Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources Unsourced material may be challenged and removed Find sources White Flag band news newspapers books scholar JSTOR October 2013 Learn how and when to remove this template message White Flag is an American punk rock band currently based in Los Angeles Their current lineup consists of frontman Mike Mess guitar Jello B Afro bass and Trace Element drums These members have been in the band since 1982 though many have rotated in and out White Flag has a discography that ranges from their 1982 debut R is for Rocket to 2010 s Benefit For Cats White FlagOriginSunnymead CaliforniaGenresPunk rockYears active1982 presentLabelsGasatanka RecordsMembersJello B Afro Mike Mess Trace ElementPast members Pat Fear 1 2 Doug GravesEl FeeAl BumPick Z StixBruce WingateGreg HetsonSteven Shane McDonaldMichael Scott CalhounKen DectorRonnie BarnettKim ShattuckDuke SeinoRandy RobbinsJohn ButlerKen StringfellowViv VacuumJim LaspesaEl SweVictor M Surrounded Contents 1 History 2 Members 2 1 Current lineup 2 2 Former members 3 Discography 3 1 Studio albums 3 2 Eps and 7 inches 3 3 Splits 3 4 Compilation albums 3 5 Live albums 3 6 Albums contributed to 4 References 5 External linksHistory editWhite Flag formed in 1982 in Sunnymead 3 a community in California s Inland Empire which is now part of the city of Moreno Valley 4 The original core lineup which included Pat Fear Trace Element Doug Graves and El Fee released their self released debut album S Is for Space the same year 5 In contrast to other bands at the time White Flag took an anti drug pro Reagan anti communist pro Christian stance as a faux image with Fear dressing up as a police officer 6 They played their first two shows in the summer of 1982 at keg parties before opening a show for Black Flag A live version of this third show was included on the 25th anniversary deluxe reissue of S Is For Space This version of the lineup featured Al Bum on lead vocals 7 In a 1983 Flipside interview guitarist Pat Fear noted People give us a lot of shit for being called White Flag and that we re ripping off Black Flag and all the Black Flag bros in Long Beach want to kill us but the truth is Black Flag are our friends Henry is like our biggest fan So why are these Black Flag people trying to kick our asses The whole reason for the name is to reintroduce anarchy back into the musical aspect of punk because when it started out it wasn t political and it was not violent like when Johnny Rotten said he was not singing about anarchy he wanted musical anarchy Not social or government anarchy or violence and people blew it out of proportion So we re trying to get back to an anarchistic state of music 8 In 1984 the band released the album Third Strike which featured Social Distortion singer Mike Ness singing harmonies on the song Middle Class Hell 9 While mostly inactive in the 1990s they released the album Eternally Undone in 1999 10 In 2006 White Flag toured in Italy for the first time As a souvenir of the group s first visit the band released a limited edition hand numbered 8 song 10 inch vinyl album on Roma based RARO Records entitled Piangi Con Me which is now out of print In 2008 the band toured Europe twice first in March Germany and Netherlands and then in June July they did 23 gigs including two with NOFX and the Adolescents Some gigs in the U S with the Germs and the Adolescents followed In May 2010 the band released the 7 inch e p Keepers of The Purple Twilight on Target Earth Records limited to 300 copies 2010 also saw the release of Benefit For Cats on Cupcake Records In 2011 Strange Magic Records released White Flag and Tony Adolescent s Live at Bohemian Grove White Flag amp Tony 7 inch EP That same year the band who were big fans of 70 s seminal punk group The Runaways contributed the track C mon to the controversial tribute album Take It Or Leave It A Tribute To The Original Queens of Noise The Runaways The song featured Michael Lee Smith lead singer of the band Starz on lead vocals The current line up featured on the July 2010 vinyl only release Benefit For Cats performed their first Midwest shows in July 2010 With shows in Detroit Cleveland and Chicago on July 15 16 and 17 respectively The shows were record release parties for the album as well as for the Russian release limited edition 7 inch e p Two Pack which is limited to only 100 copies and is a split release with Russian band Citramons Pat Fear died on September 24 2013 11 The band continued on with members Trace Element Jello B Afro and Mike Mess 12 Members editThe punk rock names of band members were chosen to parody those of Jello Biafra Mike Ness and Pat Smear Current lineup edit Jello B Afro 13 bass and vocals 1982 1984 2007 present 14 Mike Mess 15 guitar bass and vocals 1984 present 16 Trace Element 17 drums and vocalsFormer members edit Pat Fear 18 19 bass guitar keyboards sitar vocals 20 Doug Graves 21 El Fee 22 Al Bum lead vocals 23 Pick Z Stix drums 24 25 Ken Stringfellow credited as Kim Crimson 26 bass drums guitar keyboard vocals 27 Kent Crimson 28 Jim Tiligiant bass drums guitar vocals 29 Viv Vacuum bass guitar vocals 30 Eric Erlandson 31 Kim Shattuck 32 Ronnie Barnett 33 Duke Seino 34 El Swe 35 Victor M Surrounded drums 36 Discography editWhite Flag has a large discography This is an incomplete list Studio albums edit R is for Rocket 1982 S is for Space 1983 37 Third Strike 1984 38 WFO 1985 Feeding Frenzy 1986 Peace 1986 Zero Hour 1986 Wild Kingdom 1987 39 Skate Across America 1995 40 Eternally Undone 2001 History is Fiction 2002 41 T Is For Twenty 2006 42 Benefit For Cats 2010 Eps and 7 inches edit Suicide King 1987 Freedom Fighters 1988 R is for Rad 1989 Within You Without You 1990 White Rabbit 1993 Sympathy for the Record Industry 43 Don t Give It Away 1992 3rd Sun Mower 1993 Novocaine 1995 On The Way Down 1999 Piangi Con Me 2006 Keepers of The Purple Twilight 2010 Live At Bohemian Grove White Flag amp Tony 2011 Splits edit Tesco Vee and White Flag Jail Jello 1987 split with Necros Sator Vs White Flag 1994 split with Sator White Flag Baby Demons 2008 44 Two Pack Split 2010 Levitate The Listener with Versus You 2011 White Flag Crise Total with Crise Total 2011 Bbs Paranoicos White Flag 2012 White Flag amp Tony Adolescent White Flag Shoplifters 2013 Compilation albums edit Sgt Pepper 1987 Thru the Trash Darkly 1993 Step Back 10 1996 45 R is for Rocket U is for Unreleased 2003 T Is For Twenty 2006 Counterclockwise 2007 Wild Kingdom Zero Hour Sgt Pepper 2008 46 Live albums edit Bleedin In Sweden 1986 History is Fiction 2003 Albums contributed to edit The Sound of Hollywood 3 Copulation Mystic Records 1984 47 Eat Me BCT 1984 Desperate Teenage Lovedolls 1984 Flipside Vinyl Fanzine Volume 1 Gasatanka 1984 Mystic Sampler 3 Mystic 1986 Another Shot for Bracken Positive Force 1986 Rat Music for Rat People Vol 3 compilation CD Presents 1987 4 Bands That Could Change the World Gasatanka 1987 Every Band Has a Shonen Knife Who Loves Them Gasatanka 1989 Gabba Gabba Hey A Tribute to the Ramones Triple X Records 1991 Freedom of Choice Yesterday s New Wave Hits As Performed By Today s Stars 1992 Germs Tribute A Small Circle Of Friends compilation 1996 Short Music for Short People 1999 Jardim Eletrico A Tribute to Os Mutantes 2007 Take It Or Leave It A Tribute To The Queens of Noise The Runaways 2011 References edit R I P Bill Bartell of White Flag The Punk Vault Punkvinyl com 2013 09 24 Retrieved 2013 10 07 RIP Bill Bartell September 24 2013 AKA Pat Fear of White Flag The Music s Over Themusicsover com 2013 09 24 Retrieved 2013 10 07 White Flag Albums and Discography AllMusic MORENO VALLEY City s 30 year history includes little known facts 7 December 2014 White Flag Biography Songs amp Albums AllMusic White Flag White Flag Al Kowalewski and Pete Landswick White Flag Flipside whole no 37 February 1983 pp 54 55 White Flag White Flag Biography Songs amp Albums AllMusic MUSIC White Flag s Bill Bartell Pat Fear has died Blog pe com 2013 09 24 Retrieved 2013 10 07 White Flag Biography Songs amp Albums AllMusic White Flag Biography Songs amp Albums AllMusic White Flag White Flag Biography Songs amp Albums AllMusic White Flag White Flag Biography Songs amp Albums AllMusic R I P Bill Bartell of White Flag The Punk Vault Punkvinyl com 2013 09 24 Retrieved 2013 10 07 RIP Bill Bartell September 24 2013 AKA Pat Fear of White Flag The Music s Over Themusicsover com 2013 09 24 Retrieved 2013 10 07 History is Fiction White Flag Credits AllMusic AllMusic White Flag Biography Songs amp Albums AllMusic White Flag Biography Songs amp Albums AllMusic White Flag White Flag White Flag White Flag History is Fiction White Flag Credits AllMusic AllMusic White Flag History is Fiction White Flag Credits AllMusic AllMusic History is Fiction White Flag Credits AllMusic AllMusic Eric Erlandson White Flag White Flag Mesa Lanes is More Than a New Band for Veteran Punk Nick Sjobeck It s a Fresh Start OC Weekly Tours White Flag to tour Italy in February Tours White Flag to tour Italy in February White Flag Biography Songs amp Albums AllMusic White Flag Biography Songs amp Albums AllMusic White Flag Albums and Discography AllMusic White Flag Albums and Discography AllMusic History is Fiction White Flag Releases AllMusic AllMusic White Flag Albums and Discography AllMusic White Flag Albums and Discography AllMusic White Flag Albums and Discography AllMusic White Flag Albums and Discography AllMusic White Flag Albums and Discography AllMusic White Flag External links editWhite Flag at myspace com White Flag BandToBand com Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title White Flag band amp oldid 1182542528, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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