Wise Men of Gotham is the early name given to the people of the village of Gotham, Nottinghamshire, in allusion to an incident where they supposedly feigned idiocy to avoid a Royal visit.
Cuckoo Bush Mound is the alleged site for the tale of the Wise Men of Gotham's attempt at fencing in the cuckoo. It is actually a 3,000-year-old Neolithic burial mound, and was excavated in 1847.
The story goes that King John intended to travel through the neighbourhood. At that time in England, any road the king travelled on had to be made a public highway, but the people of Gotham did not want a public highway through their village. The villagers feigned imbecility when the royal messengers arrived.[1] Wherever the messengers went, they saw the rustics engaged in some absurd task.[2] Based on this report, John determined to have his hunting lodge elsewhere, and the wise men boasted, "We ween there are more fools pass through Gotham than remain in it."[3]
According to the 1874 edition of Blount's Tenures of Land, King John's messengers "found some of the inhabitants engaged in endeavouring to drown an eel in a pool of water; some were employed in dragging carts upon a large barn, to shade the wood from the sun; others were tumbling their cheeses down a hill, that they might find their way to Nottingham for sale; and some were employed in hedging in a cuckoo which had perched upon an old bush which stood where the present one now stands;[4] in short, they were all employed in some foolish way or other which convinced the king's servants that it was a village of fools, whence arose the old adage, "the wise men of Gotham" or "the fools of Gotham".[5][6]
The Towneley Mysteries mentioned the "foles of Gotham" as early as the fifteenth century, and a collection of their jests was published in the sixteenth century under the title Merrie Tales of the Mad Men of Gotham, gathered together by A.B. of Phisicke Doctour. The "A.B." was supposed to represent Andrew Borde or Boorde (1490?–1549), famous among other things for his wit, but he probably had nothing to do with the compilation.[2][7]
Similar storiesEdit
Gotham Legends wind vane erected in the centre of village
The localizing of fools is common to most countries, and folklorists have a special term for this genre: blason populaire. There are many other reputed imbecile centres in England besides Gotham. Thus there are the people of Coggeshall, Essex; the "carles" of Austwick, Yorkshire; the "gowks" of Gordon, Berwickshire; and for many centuries the charge of folly has been made against silly Suffolk and Norfolk (Descriptio Norfolciensium about twelfth century, printed in Wright's Early Mysteries and other Latin Poems).[2][8]
The Wise Men of Gotham are recalled in a popular nursery rhyme with a Roud Folk Song Index number of 19695, an adaptation of the tale Three Sailors of Gotham.[10] The lyrics are:
Three wise men of Gotham, They went to sea in a bowl, And if the bowl had been stronger My song would have been longer.[4]
The rhyme was first recorded in Mother Goose's Melody published around 1765, and from then appeared in many collections.[4]
LegacyEdit
Reminded of the foolish ingenuity of Gotham's residents, Washington Irving gave the name "Gotham" to New York City in his Salmagundi Papers (1807). The most notable use of the name in this context was by Bill Finger in naming the home of Batman, Gotham City. The existence of Gotham, Nottinghamshire in the DC Universe was recently acknowledged in Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #206 (and again in 52 #27), although the connection between two names within the DCU has not been fully explained. In a story titled "Cityscape" in Batman Chronicles #6 it is revealed that Gotham was initially built for the purpose of housing the criminally insane, and Robin reads a journal that tells of how Gotham got its name: "I even have a name for it. We could call it 'Gotham' after a village in England – where, according to common belief, all are bereft of their wits."[11]
Responding to the connection between the Gotham, Nottinghamshire and Gotham for New York City, Rudolph Giuliani, former mayor of New York, wrote that it was "a pleasure to have this opportunity to acknowledge the cultural and historical link" between the two places.[11]
In DC Comics' The Batman of Arkham the Joker recites the "Wise Men of Gotham" rhyme specifically.
In Thomas Paine’s Rights of Man Paine asserts that Edmund Burke “puts the nation as fools on one side, and places his government of wisdom, all wise men of Gotham, on the other side;”.[12]
There is a passing reference to the wise men of Gotham in Lorna Doone.
^Noodles, Nitwits and Numbskulls by Kurt Werth, Dell Pub Co, 1979.
^ abcOne or more of the preceding sentences incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain: Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "Gotham, Wise Men of". Encyclopædia Britannica. Vol. 12 (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. p. 271.
^ abG. Seal, Encyclopedia of folk heroes (ABC-CLIO, 2001), pp. 272–3
^ abcI. Opie and P. Opie, The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1951, 2nd edn., 1997), p. 193.
^Tenures of Land, by Thomas Blount and edited by W. Carew Hazlitt, p. 133. London, 1874. The Wise Fools of Gotham
^ Thomas Blount, Tenures of land & customs of manors
^Gerard T. KoeppelWater for Gotham: a History (Princeton University Press, 2001), p. 103.
^Alfred Stapleton, All about the Merry Tales of Gotham (Kessinger Publishing, 2005), p. 10.
^Brewer, Ebenezer Cobham (1898). Dictionary of Phrase and Fable: Giving the Derivation, Source, Or Origin of Common Phrases, Allusions, and Words that Have a Tale to Tell. Henry Altemus Company. p. 541. Retrieved December 8, 2014.
^Gillian Elias, The Tales Of THE WISE MEN Of GOTHAM (Nottinghamshire County Council 1991), ISBN0-900943-33-5, p. 42, .
^ ab"The real Gotham: The village behind the Batman stories". BBC News.
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Wise Men of Gotham is the early name given to the people of the village of Gotham Nottinghamshire in allusion to an incident where they supposedly feigned idiocy to avoid a Royal visit William Wallace Denslow s illustrations for Three Wise Men of Gotham from a 1901 edition of Mother Goose Contents 1 Legend 2 Similar stories 3 Nursery rhyme 4 Legacy 5 See also 6 Notes 7 ReferencesLegend Edit nbsp Cuckoo Bush Mound is the alleged site for the tale of the Wise Men of Gotham s attempt at fencing in the cuckoo It is actually a 3 000 year old Neolithic burial mound and was excavated in 1847 The story goes that King John intended to travel through the neighbourhood At that time in England any road the king travelled on had to be made a public highway but the people of Gotham did not want a public highway through their village The villagers feigned imbecility when the royal messengers arrived 1 Wherever the messengers went they saw the rustics engaged in some absurd task 2 Based on this report John determined to have his hunting lodge elsewhere and the wise men boasted We ween there are more fools pass through Gotham than remain in it 3 According to the 1874 edition of Blount s Tenures of Land King John s messengers found some of the inhabitants engaged in endeavouring to drown an eel in a pool of water some were employed in dragging carts upon a large barn to shade the wood from the sun others were tumbling their cheeses down a hill that they might find their way to Nottingham for sale and some were employed in hedging in a cuckoo which had perched upon an old bush which stood where the present one now stands 4 in short they were all employed in some foolish way or other which convinced the king s servants that it was a village of fools whence arose the old adage the wise men of Gotham or the fools of Gotham 5 6 The Towneley Mysteries mentioned the foles of Gotham as early as the fifteenth century and a collection of their jests was published in the sixteenth century under the title Merrie Tales of the Mad Men of Gotham gathered together by A B of Phisicke Doctour The A B was supposed to represent Andrew Borde or Boorde 1490 1549 famous among other things for his wit but he probably had nothing to do with the compilation 2 7 Similar stories Edit nbsp Gotham Legends wind vane erected in the centre of villageThe localizing of fools is common to most countries and folklorists have a special term for this genre blason populaire There are many other reputed imbecile centres in England besides Gotham Thus there are the people of Coggeshall Essex the carles of Austwick Yorkshire the gowks of Gordon Berwickshire and for many centuries the charge of folly has been made against silly Suffolk and Norfolk Descriptio Norfolciensium about twelfth century printed in Wright s Early Mysteries and other Latin Poems 2 8 In Germany there are the Schildburger from the town of Schilda in the Netherlands the people of Kampen in Bohemia the people of Kocourkov and in Moravia the people of Simperk There are also the Swedish Taljetokar from Sodertalje and Kalkborgare from Kalkestad and the Danish tell tales of the foolish inhabitants of Mols while the Finnish talk of the Holmolaiset and the Bembolebor In Romania Caracal is known as the place where the cart of fools tipped over Among the ancient Greeks Boeotia and Cyme were the homes of fools among the Thracians Abdera among the ancient Jews Nazareth 9 among modern Jews those in Europe anyway Chelm among the ancient Anatolians Phrygia 3 Nursery rhyme EditThe Wise Men of Gotham are recalled in a popular nursery rhyme with a Roud Folk Song Index number of 19695 an adaptation of the tale Three Sailors of Gotham 10 The lyrics are Three wise men of Gotham They went to sea in a bowl And if the bowl had been stronger My song would have been longer 4 The rhyme was first recorded in Mother Goose s Melody published around 1765 and from then appeared in many collections 4 Legacy EditReminded of the foolish ingenuity of Gotham s residents Washington Irving gave the name Gotham to New York City in his Salmagundi Papers 1807 The most notable use of the name in this context was by Bill Finger in naming the home of Batman Gotham City The existence of Gotham Nottinghamshire in the DC Universe was recently acknowledged in Batman Legends of the Dark Knight 206 and again in 52 27 although the connection between two names within the DCU has not been fully explained In a story titled Cityscape in Batman Chronicles 6 it is revealed that Gotham was initially built for the purpose of housing the criminally insane and Robin reads a journal that tells of how Gotham got its name I even have a name for it We could call it Gotham after a village in England where according to common belief all are bereft of their wits 11 Responding to the connection between the Gotham Nottinghamshire and Gotham for New York City Rudolph Giuliani former mayor of New York wrote that it was a pleasure to have this opportunity to acknowledge the cultural and historical link between the two places 11 In DC Comics The Batman of Arkham the Joker recites the Wise Men of Gotham rhyme specifically In Thomas Paine s Rights of Man Paine asserts that Edmund Burke puts the nation as fools on one side and places his government of wisdom all wise men of Gotham on the other side 12 There is a passing reference to the wise men of Gotham in Lorna Doone See also EditEnglish folklore Feigned madness Gotham City comic book city of Batman Molbo story Moonrakers Ship of fools Simpleton The Praise of Folly Chelm Guru ParamarthaNotes Edit Noodles Nitwits and Numbskulls by Kurt Werth Dell Pub Co 1979 a b c nbsp One or more of the preceding sentences incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain Chisholm Hugh ed 1911 Gotham Wise Men of Encyclopaedia Britannica Vol 12 11th ed Cambridge University Press p 271 a b G Seal Encyclopedia of folk heroes ABC CLIO 2001 pp 272 3 a b c I Opie and P Opie The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes Oxford Oxford University Press 1951 2nd edn 1997 p 193 Tenures of Land by Thomas Blount and edited by W Carew Hazlitt p 133 London 1874 The Wise Fools of Gotham Thomas Blount Tenures of land amp customs of manors Gerard T Koeppel Water for Gotham a History Princeton University Press 2001 p 103 Alfred Stapleton All about the Merry Tales of Gotham Kessinger Publishing 2005 p 10 Brewer Ebenezer Cobham 1898 Dictionary of Phrase and Fable Giving the Derivation Source Or Origin of Common Phrases Allusions and Words that Have a Tale to Tell Henry Altemus Company p 541 Retrieved December 8 2014 Gillian Elias The Tales Of THE WISE MEN Of GOTHAM Nottinghamshire County Council 1991 ISBN 0 900943 33 5 p 42 a b The real Gotham The village behind the Batman stories BBC News The Rights of Man folio edition 2007 page 88 References Edit nbsp Wikimedia Commons has media related to Wise Men of Gotham WA Clouston Book of Noodles London 1888 RH Cunningham Amusing Prose Chap books 1889 Marvin Dwight Edwards 1922 The Antiquity of Proverbs Fifty Familiar Proverbs and Folk Sayings with Annotations and Lists of Connected Forms Found in All Parts of the World G P Putnam s Sons pp 113 120 As Wise as a Man of Gotham Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Wise Men of Gotham amp oldid 1170916412, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,
