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The Turtles

The Turtles are an American rock band formed in Los Angeles, California, in 1965 and best known for their 1967 hit song "Happy Together".[3] They charted several other top 40 hits, including "It Ain't Me Babe" (1965), "You Baby" (1966), "She'd Rather Be With Me" (1967), "Elenore" (1968) and "You Showed Me" (1969).

The Turtles
The Turtles in 1967 (left to right): Al Nichol, Chip Douglas, Johnny Barbata, Mark Volman, Jim Tucker, Howard Kaylan
Background information
Also known as
  • The Nightriders
  • the Crossfires
  • the Tyrtles
OriginLos Angeles, California
Genres
DiscographyThe Turtles discography
Years active
  • 1965–1970
    1983–present ("featuring Flo & Eddie")
LabelsWhite Whale, Sundazed Records
Members
Past members
Websitetheturtles.com

As the Turtles' commercial success waned by the end of the 1960s, they became plagued with management issues, lawsuits and conflicts with their label, White Whale Records, leading the group to break up in 1970. Founding members Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman later achieved long-lasting success as session musicians and reunited under the name Flo & Eddie, a comedy rock act. Since 1983, the Turtles featuring Flo & Eddie, a reconstituted version of the band, are currently touring.

History edit

1963–1966: Formation, initial success and first personnel changes edit

The Nightriders, the Crossfires and the Tyrtles edit

In early 1963, New Yorker Howard Kaylan and Californian Mark Volman attended the same school, Westchester High in Los Angeles (Kaylan had moved from New York City as a child). The two sang in the school's a cappella choir, where Volman soon heard about Kaylan's instrumental surf music band, the Nightriders (which included Kaylan on saxophone and choir members Al Nichol on lead guitar, Don Murray on drums and Chuck Portz on bass). Volman joined the group as a saxophonist, just before the group changed its name to the Crossfires in the same year. After high school graduation, the band continued on while its members attended area colleges (picking up rhythm guitarist Jim Tucker along the way).[4]

They released a single, "Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde" b/w "Fiberglass Jungle", on the local "Capco Records" label, always in 1963. With the help of KRLA and KFWB DJ and club owner Reb Foster, the Crossfires signed to the newly formed White Whale Records. Adhering to the prevailing musical trend, the group rebranded itself as a folk rock band under the name the Tyrtles, an intentionally stylized misspelling inspired by the Byrds and the Beatles. However, the trendy spelling did not survive long, and they had to name themselves the Turtles.[5]

Because of the stylistic change from "Surf music" to "Folk rock", Kaylan and Volman dropped the saxophones to become the band's vocalists. Kaylan became the group's lead singer, and keyboardist (although he would give up most of the keyboard parts to Nichol in their hits). Volman began to harmonize with Kaylan's lead singing becoming a third guitarist, as well as a percussionist, for the band.

"It Ain't Me Babe" and "You Baby" edit

As with the Byrds, the Turtles achieved breakthrough success with a cover of a Bob Dylan song. "It Ain't Me Babe" reached the Billboard Top Ten in the late summer of 1965, and was the title track of the band's first album.[5] "Let Me Be", their second single, reached the top 30, and "You Baby" charted in the top 20 in early 1966. "You Baby", with its intricate vocal harmonies and upbeat tempo, was influential in the band's sound as it departed from the political, Byrds-type folk rock;[5][6] the band's new sound ranged from chamber pop to straightforward pop music.[1]

You Baby, The band's second album, failed to reach Billboard's Top LPs chart, and of several singles released in 1966, "Grim Reaper of Love" and "Can I Get to Know You Better" barely entered the Billboard Hot 100. One single, the tough "Outside Chance", written by Warren Zevon and featuring guitar work in the style of the Beatles' "Taxman", did not chart. In 1966, the Turtles made an appearance in Universal's film Out of Sight, singing "She'll Come Back" on screen.

 
The band in 1966. Top: from left; Al Nichol, Jim Tucker, John Barbata. Middle: Howard Kaylan, Mark Volman. Bottom: Chuck Portz.

At the start of 1966, drummer Don Murray and bassist Chuck Portz quit the group. They were replaced by Joel Larson and then John Barbata on drums, and by Chip Douglas on bass (October 1966).[5]

1966–1968: Peak years edit

"Happy Together" edit

"Happy Together", the first of several key Turtles singles co-written by Garry Bonner and Alan Gordon, had been rejected by countless performers. "Happy Together", both their biggest hit and their signature song, signaled a turning point for both the Turtles and for Chip Douglas, who provided the arrangement.[5] The single replaced the Beatles' "Penny Lane" at number one on the Billboard Hot 100 in the spring of 1967. The Turtles' only No. 1 remained there for three weeks. An album of the same name followed and peaked at No. 25. "Happy Together" reached No. 12 on the UK Singles Chart.[7] This same year saw the Turtles performing the title song (composed by John Williams with lyrics by Leslie Bricusse) for the Twentieth Century-Fox bedroom farce A Guide for the Married Man.

Impressed by Chip Douglas's studio arrangements, Michael Nesmith approached him after a Turtles show at the Whisky a Go Go and invited him to become the Monkees' producer as that band wanted to break out of their "manufactured" studio mold. Douglas accepted and left the Turtles, producing three Monkees albums: Headquarters; Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn & Jones Ltd. (both 1967); and co-produced The Birds, the Bees & the Monkees (1968). Douglas was replaced by Jim Pons on bass.

"She'd Rather Be with Me", "You Know What I Mean" and "She's My Girl" edit

Other hits, all written by Gordon/Bonner, followed "Happy Together", turning the year of 1967 extremely lucrative for the Turtles. A follow-up, the brassy "She'd Rather Be with Me", reached No. 3 on the US charts in late spring and actually out-charted "Happy Together" overseas, reaching No. 4 in the UK.[7] Two successive Top 15 songs followed: "You Know What I Mean" and "She's My Girl". Both 45s showed a psychedelic side in the band's style. Golden Hits was released later that year, charting in the top 10. The similar album covers for The Turtles! Golden Hits and its follow up More Golden Hits were designed by Dean Torrence of Jan & Dean.

In 1967, rhythm guitarist Jim Tucker left the band, citing the pressure of touring and recording new material. He moved to Grass Valley, California where he became an electrical contractor. He has denied that he left the band because John Lennon was rude to him as suggested by singer Kaylan.[8]

The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands edit

 
The band in 1968. From left: Jim Pons, Howard Kaylan, Mark Volman, Al Nichol, John Barbata.

"Sound Asleep" and "The Story of Rock and Roll", the first two singles in 1968, stalled somewhere in the middle of the top 100. The band's fortunes changed when Chip Douglas returned to work with them in the studio. Late in 1968 the band released a concept album called The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands, in which the group pretended to be 11 different bands (with fanciful names including the Bigg Brothers, Nature's Children, the US Teens featuring Raoul, and the Fabulous Dawgs), each with a song in a different genre. The album yielded two singles: "Elenore" and "You Showed Me" (both peaking at No. 6). "Elenore" also reached No. 7 in the UK chart.[7] Although both singles were successful, they didn't help to boost the album's sales, which peaked at No. 128 on the Billboard Pop Albums. The 1969 hit "You Showed Me" had been written by the Byrds' Gene Clark and Roger (then Jim) McGuinn in 1964. It was their last top 10 single. Television appearances included a February 1968 spot on The Mike Douglas Show, to which they returned in April 1969.

1969–1970: Commercial waning and break-up edit

Turtle Soup edit

Towards the end of 1969, the group released its next album, Turtle Soup, a critically well-received LP produced by Ray Davies of the Kinks. Inspired by the revered 1968 concept album The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society, this was Davies's only released production work for another band (but Davies had previously produced demo recordings for the Iveys). Notable tracks include "Somewhere Friday Nite" and "Love in the City". In spite of Turtle Soup's positive reception from the music press, its commercial success was marginal, and the band began to disintegrate.

Conflicts with White Whale and disintegration edit

Long disillusioned with their record label and its growing financial problems by this time, Kaylan and Volman resisted White Whale's efforts to turn the Turtles into something approaching an assembly-line pop act, like the early Monkees. The label apparently encouraged Kaylan and Volman to fire the rest of the band, tour with hired musicians and make records by adding their vocals to backing tracks recorded by Memphis session players. Such pressure convinced the band to record a single called "Who Would Ever Think That I Would Marry Margaret?", which they disowned after its release.

The Turtles wound down their career in 1970 with More Golden Hits, a second compilation album, and Wooden Head, a B-sides and rarities album. With the demise of the Turtles, White Whale Records lost its biggest moneymaker, had few commercially viable bands, and soon ceased operations.

Post-Turtles edit

1970s edit

Kaylan and Volman (accompanied by Chip Douglas' replacement, bassist Jim Pons) joined the Mothers of Invention[5] as the Phlorescent Leech & Eddie, since the use of the Turtles' name (and even their own names in billings) was prohibited by their contract with their label White Whale Records. Flo & Eddie, as they soon became known, recorded albums with Frank Zappa's band, appeared in Zappa's film 200 Motels in 1971, and later released a series of records.[5]

Kaylan and Volman sang backing vocals on several recordings by the band T. Rex, including their worldwide 1971 hit "Get It On (Bang a Gong)" and the albums Electric Warrior and The Slider. When White Whale's master recordings were sold at auction in 1974, the duo won the Turtles' masters, making them the owners of their own recorded work. They promptly licensed the tracks to Sire Records, which issued them as a compilation titled "Happy Together Again". In the mid-1970s, Kaylan and Volman started their syndicated radio show titled Flo & Eddie by the Fireside, which originated from KMET in Los Angeles.[9]

1980s edit

In the 1980s, the duo began hosting their radio show on KROQ-FM in Los Angeles and WXRK in New York City and recorded soundtrack music for children's shows like the Care Bears and Strawberry Shortcake. In 1980, Flo and Eddie performed backing vocals on Alice Cooper's Flush the Fashion and sang backup on Bruce Springsteen's "Hungry Heart" from his album The River. 1982 saw the re-release of the Turtles' original albums through Rhino Records.

In 1983, they also contributed backing vocals to the self-titled debut album of British New wave band Espionage, produced by Roy Thomas Baker and released by A&M Records. Also in 1983, Howard Kaylan appeared in the comedy film Get Crazy, starring Malcolm McDowell and Daniel Stern: Kaylan played the part of Captain Cloud, a spiritual guru, leader of a caravan of time-lost hippies. In the same year, Kaylan and Volman legally regained the use of "the Turtles" name and began touring as the Turtles Featuring Flo and Eddie; instead of trying to reunite with their earlier bandmates, they began featuring sidemen who had played with different groups. In 1984, the Turtles embarked on a U.S. Happy Together tour with Gary Puckett & the Union Gap, Spanky & Our Gang and the Association.[10]

In 1987, Kaylan and Volman appeared in a music video of their 1967 song Happy Together to promote the romantic comedy Making Mr. Right. That year also saw the debut of the previously unreleased Shell Shock album, as well as a new retrospective CD 20 Greatest Hits, both released by Rhino. The latter compilation was followed in 1988 with Turtle Wax: The Best of the Turtles, Vol. 2, which featured the best of their "album tracks" and previously neglected single B-sides.

The 1989 debut album by hip hop combo De La Soul, featured an uncredited sample from the Turtles (specifically, the introduction to "You Showed Me"), in the song "Transmitting Live from Mars." Kaylan and Volman sued, winning a large settlement, setting a legal precedent, and causing the music industry to begin carefully crediting (and paying royalties for) sampled works on future rap music and other recordings in general. As they explained: "We don't hate sampling; we like sampling. If we don't get credit, we sue, and all that stuff (a share of the royalties plus punitive damages) comes back to us!" It was incorrectly reported in 2009 that Volman was involved in another lawsuit against rapper Gucci Mane for an unauthorized sample; the sample of "Keep It Warm" used in Mane's "Lemonade" was cleared legitimately before the release of the song. Also in 1989, the Turtles' recording of Happy Together was featured in the eponymous romantic comedy film Happy Together as well as in the film soundtrack album.

1990s edit

In 1991 "Music Club Records" released a Turtles' anthology in the United Kingdom: Happy Together: The Best of the Turtles. In 1993 Repertoire Records in Germany released their compilation, titled Elenore, as well as re-released the original Happy Together. In the same year, Rhino Records also presented Captured Live, a live album of their 1992 tour. In 1994 Sundazed Records re-released all of the Turtles' original albums, and in 1999 Varèse Sarabande released Happy Together: The Best of White Whale Records, which included many of the Turtles' singles.

Original drummer Don Murray (born "Donald Ray Murray" on November 8, 1945) died on March 22, 1996, at age 50.

2000s edit

In 2002, the film Adaptation used their song "Happy Together" extensively as a device to portray the closeness of the two brothers Kaufman, both played by Nicolas Cage; this film closes with the Turtles' version over the final credit scroll and time lapse photography.

Also the 2005 film Imagine Me & You, the title of which was taken from the first line of the song "Happy Together", used this song in its end credits. In 2009, a Turtles compilation CD titled Save the Turtles: The Turtles Greatest Hits was issued on their FloEdCo Record label and distributed by Manifesto Records.[11]

2010s edit

Starting in the summer of 2010, the Turtles Featuring Flo & Eddie toured throughout the United States as part of the Happy Together: 25th Anniversary Tour, an oldies concert series that retained the "Happy Together" moniker in subsequent years. They performed alongside other 1960s and 1970s pop stars, including Gary Puckett, Mitch Ryder, Mark Lindsay, Mark Farner, Gary Lewis, and Micky Dolenz.[12] The 2015 tour featured the Buckinghams, the Cowsills, the Grass Roots, and the Association. In 2016, the complete output of the Turtles was reissued as two box sets, titled The Complete Original Album Collection and All the Singles. The expanded editions of the six albums contained in the former were issued separately in 2017.

In 2018, since Kaylan required heart and back surgery, he was prohibited by his doctors from joining the tour, so Ron Dante (a prolific session musician of the Archies, the Cuff Links and the Detergents fame) performed for him through the summer of 2021.

2020s

Original rhythm guitarist Jim Tucker (born James Roy Tucker on October 17, 1946)[13] died on November 12, 2020, at age 74.[14]

While the Happy Together tour resumed in 2022, Kaylan is not performing with the group. Instead, Dante, who is not an original member, is performing as a member of "the Turtles" with original member Mark Volman.

Personnel edit

Current members edit

  • Mark Volman – harmony and backing vocals, guitar, percussion (1965–1970, 1983–present)
  • Ron Dante – lead vocals, guitar (2022–present)

Former members edit

  • Howard Kaylan – lead vocals, keyboards (1965–1970, 1983–2018)
  • Al Nichol – lead guitar, keyboards, backing vocals (1965–1970)
  • Jim Tucker – acoustic and electric rhythm guitars, backing vocals (1965–1967; died 2020)
  • Chuck Portz – bass guitar (1965–1966)
  • Don Murray – drums (1965–1966; died 1996)
  • Peter Whitmer – drums (1963)
  • Chip Douglas – bass guitar, backing vocals (1966–1967)
  • Jim Pons – bass guitar, backing vocals (1967–1970)
  • Joel Larson – drums (1966)
  • John Barbata – drums, percussion (1966–1969)
  • Ran Whitehead – drums (1967)
  • John Seiter – drums (1969–1970)

Timeline (Original incarnation of the band, 1965–1970) edit

Discography edit

See also edit

References edit

  1. ^ a b Bush, John. "The Turtles". Allmusic. Retrieved September 20, 2021.
  2. ^ Simmonds, Jeremy (2012). The Encyclopedia of Dead Rock Stars. Chicago Review Press. p. 347. ISBN 978-1613744789.
  3. ^ . Rolling Stone. 2004. Archived from the original on September 15, 2008. Retrieved December 24, 2008.
  4. ^ Bush, John. "The Turtles | Biography, Albums, Streaming Links". AllMusic. Retrieved March 4, 2021.
  5. ^ a b c d e f g Colin Larkin, ed. (1997). The Virgin Encyclopedia of Popular Music (Concise ed.). Virgin Books. p. 1196. ISBN 1-85227-745-9.
  6. ^ Greenwald, Matthew, You Baby - The Turtles | Song Info | AllMusic, retrieved March 4, 2021
  7. ^ a b c Betts, Graham (2004). Complete UK Hit Singles 1952–2004 (1st ed.). London: Collins. p. 802. ISBN 0-00-717931-6.
  8. ^ "eTerritorial Dispatch: Interview With A Turtle". Eterritorialdispatch.blogspot.co.uk. Retrieved March 17, 2017.
  9. ^ "Flo and Eddie by the Fireside op Myspace Music – Gratis Gestreamde MP3s, Fotos, en Videoclips". Myspace.com. Retrieved January 25, 2011.
  10. ^ "HAPPY TOGETHER TOUR". Kingcenter.com. Retrieved August 27, 2019.
  11. ^ "Save The Turtles: The Turtles Greatest Hits: Turtles: Music". Amazon. Retrieved January 25, 2011.
  12. ^ McQuistion, James (April 30, 2011). "Happy Together Tour Returns In Summer 2011". Retrieved May 12, 2011.
  13. ^ "James Roy Tucker". hooperandweavermortuary.com. Retrieved March 23, 2021.
  14. ^ "Jim Tucker, rhythm guitarist for The Turtles and Grass Valley resident, dies at 74", The Union, November 16, 2020. Retrieved November 17, 2020

External links edit

  • Official website

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Not to be confused with Turtles South Korean band The Turtles are an American rock band formed in Los Angeles California in 1965 and best known for their 1967 hit song Happy Together 3 They charted several other top 40 hits including It Ain t Me Babe 1965 You Baby 1966 She d Rather Be With Me 1967 Elenore 1968 and You Showed Me 1969 The TurtlesThe Turtles in 1967 left to right Al Nichol Chip Douglas Johnny Barbata Mark Volman Jim Tucker Howard KaylanBackground informationAlso known asThe Nightriders the Crossfires the TyrtlesOriginLos Angeles CaliforniaGenresFolk rock 1 psychedelic pop 2 DiscographyThe Turtles discographyYears active1965 19701983 present featuring Flo amp Eddie LabelsWhite Whale Sundazed RecordsMembersMark VolmanRon DantePast membersHoward KaylanAl NicholJim TuckerChuck PortzDon MurrayJoel LarsonRan WhiteheadChip DouglasJim PonsJohn SeiterWebsitetheturtles wbr comAs the Turtles commercial success waned by the end of the 1960s they became plagued with management issues lawsuits and conflicts with their label White Whale Records leading the group to break up in 1970 Founding members Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman later achieved long lasting success as session musicians and reunited under the name Flo amp Eddie a comedy rock act Since 1983 the Turtles featuring Flo amp Eddie a reconstituted version of the band are currently touring Contents 1 History 1 1 1963 1966 Formation initial success and first personnel changes 1 1 1 The Nightriders the Crossfires and the Tyrtles 1 1 2 It Ain t Me Babe and You Baby 1 2 1966 1968 Peak years 1 2 1 Happy Together 1 2 2 She d Rather Be with Me You Know What I Mean and She s My Girl 1 2 3 The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands 1 3 1969 1970 Commercial waning and break up 1 3 1 Turtle Soup 1 3 2 Conflicts with White Whale and disintegration 1 4 Post Turtles 1 4 1 1970s 1 4 2 1980s 1 4 3 1990s 1 4 4 2000s 1 4 5 2010s 2 Personnel 2 1 Current members 2 2 Former members 2 2 1 Timeline Original incarnation of the band 1965 1970 3 Discography 4 See also 5 References 6 External linksHistory edit1963 1966 Formation initial success and first personnel changes edit The Nightriders the Crossfires and the Tyrtles edit In early 1963 New Yorker Howard Kaylan and Californian Mark Volman attended the same school Westchester High in Los Angeles Kaylan had moved from New York City as a child The two sang in the school s a cappella choir where Volman soon heard about Kaylan s instrumental surf music band the Nightriders which included Kaylan on saxophone and choir members Al Nichol on lead guitar Don Murray on drums and Chuck Portz on bass Volman joined the group as a saxophonist just before the group changed its name to the Crossfires in the same year After high school graduation the band continued on while its members attended area colleges picking up rhythm guitarist Jim Tucker along the way 4 They released a single Dr Jekyll amp Mr Hyde b w Fiberglass Jungle on the local Capco Records label always in 1963 With the help of KRLA and KFWB DJ and club owner Reb Foster the Crossfires signed to the newly formed White Whale Records Adhering to the prevailing musical trend the group rebranded itself as a folk rock band under the name the Tyrtles an intentionally stylized misspelling inspired by the Byrds and the Beatles However the trendy spelling did not survive long and they had to name themselves the Turtles 5 Because of the stylistic change from Surf music to Folk rock Kaylan and Volman dropped the saxophones to become the band s vocalists Kaylan became the group s lead singer and keyboardist although he would give up most of the keyboard parts to Nichol in their hits Volman began to harmonize with Kaylan s lead singing becoming a third guitarist as well as a percussionist for the band It Ain t Me Babe and You Baby edit As with the Byrds the Turtles achieved breakthrough success with a cover of a Bob Dylan song It Ain t Me Babe reached the Billboard Top Ten in the late summer of 1965 and was the title track of the band s first album 5 Let Me Be their second single reached the top 30 and You Baby charted in the top 20 in early 1966 You Baby with its intricate vocal harmonies and upbeat tempo was influential in the band s sound as it departed from the political Byrds type folk rock 5 6 the band s new sound ranged from chamber pop to straightforward pop music 1 You Baby The band s second album failed to reach Billboard s Top LPs chart and of several singles released in 1966 Grim Reaper of Love and Can I Get to Know You Better barely entered the Billboard Hot 100 One single the tough Outside Chance written by Warren Zevon and featuring guitar work in the style of the Beatles Taxman did not chart In 1966 the Turtles made an appearance in Universal s film Out of Sight singing She ll Come Back on screen nbsp The band in 1966 Top from left Al Nichol Jim Tucker John Barbata Middle Howard Kaylan Mark Volman Bottom Chuck Portz At the start of 1966 drummer Don Murray and bassist Chuck Portz quit the group They were replaced by Joel Larson and then John Barbata on drums and by Chip Douglas on bass October 1966 5 1966 1968 Peak years edit Happy Together edit Happy Together the first of several key Turtles singles co written by Garry Bonner and Alan Gordon had been rejected by countless performers Happy Together both their biggest hit and their signature song signaled a turning point for both the Turtles and for Chip Douglas who provided the arrangement 5 The single replaced the Beatles Penny Lane at number one on the Billboard Hot 100 in the spring of 1967 The Turtles only No 1 remained there for three weeks An album of the same name followed and peaked at No 25 Happy Together reached No 12 on the UK Singles Chart 7 This same year saw the Turtles performing the title song composed by John Williams with lyrics by Leslie Bricusse for the Twentieth Century Fox bedroom farce A Guide for the Married Man Impressed by Chip Douglas s studio arrangements Michael Nesmith approached him after a Turtles show at the Whisky a Go Go and invited him to become the Monkees producer as that band wanted to break out of their manufactured studio mold Douglas accepted and left the Turtles producing three Monkees albums Headquarters Pisces Aquarius Capricorn amp Jones Ltd both 1967 and co produced The Birds the Bees amp the Monkees 1968 Douglas was replaced by Jim Pons on bass She d Rather Be with Me You Know What I Mean and She s My Girl edit Other hits all written by Gordon Bonner followed Happy Together turning the year of 1967 extremely lucrative for the Turtles A follow up the brassy She d Rather Be with Me reached No 3 on the US charts in late spring and actually out charted Happy Together overseas reaching No 4 in the UK 7 Two successive Top 15 songs followed You Know What I Mean and She s My Girl Both 45s showed a psychedelic side in the band s style Golden Hits was released later that year charting in the top 10 The similar album covers for The Turtles Golden Hits and its follow up More Golden Hits were designed by Dean Torrence of Jan amp Dean In 1967 rhythm guitarist Jim Tucker left the band citing the pressure of touring and recording new material He moved to Grass Valley California where he became an electrical contractor He has denied that he left the band because John Lennon was rude to him as suggested by singer Kaylan 8 The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands edit nbsp The band in 1968 From left Jim Pons Howard Kaylan Mark Volman Al Nichol John Barbata Sound Asleep and The Story of Rock and Roll the first two singles in 1968 stalled somewhere in the middle of the top 100 The band s fortunes changed when Chip Douglas returned to work with them in the studio Late in 1968 the band released a concept album called The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands in which the group pretended to be 11 different bands with fanciful names including the Bigg Brothers Nature s Children the US Teens featuring Raoul and the Fabulous Dawgs each with a song in a different genre The album yielded two singles Elenore and You Showed Me both peaking at No 6 Elenore also reached No 7 in the UK chart 7 Although both singles were successful they didn t help to boost the album s sales which peaked at No 128 on the Billboard Pop Albums The 1969 hit You Showed Me had been written by the Byrds Gene Clark and Roger then Jim McGuinn in 1964 It was their last top 10 single Television appearances included a February 1968 spot on The Mike Douglas Show to which they returned in April 1969 1969 1970 Commercial waning and break up edit Turtle Soup edit Towards the end of 1969 the group released its next album Turtle Soup a critically well received LP produced by Ray Davies of the Kinks Inspired by the revered 1968 concept album The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society this was Davies s only released production work for another band but Davies had previously produced demo recordings for the Iveys Notable tracks include Somewhere Friday Nite and Love in the City In spite of Turtle Soup s positive reception from the music press its commercial success was marginal and the band began to disintegrate Conflicts with White Whale and disintegration edit Long disillusioned with their record label and its growing financial problems by this time Kaylan and Volman resisted White Whale s efforts to turn the Turtles into something approaching an assembly line pop act like the early Monkees The label apparently encouraged Kaylan and Volman to fire the rest of the band tour with hired musicians and make records by adding their vocals to backing tracks recorded by Memphis session players Such pressure convinced the band to record a single called Who Would Ever Think That I Would Marry Margaret which they disowned after its release The Turtles wound down their career in 1970 with More Golden Hits a second compilation album and Wooden Head a B sides and rarities album With the demise of the Turtles White Whale Records lost its biggest moneymaker had few commercially viable bands and soon ceased operations Post Turtles edit 1970s edit Kaylan and Volman accompanied by Chip Douglas replacement bassist Jim Pons joined the Mothers of Invention 5 as the Phlorescent Leech amp Eddie since the use of the Turtles name and even their own names in billings was prohibited by their contract with their label White Whale Records Flo amp Eddie as they soon became known recorded albums with Frank Zappa s band appeared in Zappa s film 200 Motels in 1971 and later released a series of records 5 Kaylan and Volman sang backing vocals on several recordings by the band T Rex including their worldwide 1971 hit Get It On Bang a Gong and the albums Electric Warrior and The Slider When White Whale s master recordings were sold at auction in 1974 the duo won the Turtles masters making them the owners of their own recorded work They promptly licensed the tracks to Sire Records which issued them as a compilation titled Happy Together Again In the mid 1970s Kaylan and Volman started their syndicated radio show titled Flo amp Eddie by the Fireside which originated from KMET in Los Angeles 9 1980s edit In the 1980s the duo began hosting their radio show on KROQ FM in Los Angeles and WXRK in New York City and recorded soundtrack music for children s shows like the Care Bears and Strawberry Shortcake In 1980 Flo and Eddie performed backing vocals on Alice Cooper s Flush the Fashion and sang backup on Bruce Springsteen s Hungry Heart from his album The River 1982 saw the re release of the Turtles original albums through Rhino Records In 1983 they also contributed backing vocals to the self titled debut album of British New wave band Espionage produced by Roy Thomas Baker and released by A amp M Records Also in 1983 Howard Kaylan appeared in the comedy film Get Crazy starring Malcolm McDowell and Daniel Stern Kaylan played the part of Captain Cloud a spiritual guru leader of a caravan of time lost hippies In the same year Kaylan and Volman legally regained the use of the Turtles name and began touring as the Turtles Featuring Flo and Eddie instead of trying to reunite with their earlier bandmates they began featuring sidemen who had played with different groups In 1984 the Turtles embarked on a U S Happy Together tour with Gary Puckett amp the Union Gap Spanky amp Our Gang and the Association 10 In 1987 Kaylan and Volman appeared in a music video of their 1967 song Happy Together to promote the romantic comedy Making Mr Right That year also saw the debut of the previously unreleased Shell Shock album as well as a new retrospective CD 20 Greatest Hits both released by Rhino The latter compilation was followed in 1988 with Turtle Wax The Best of the Turtles Vol 2 which featured the best of their album tracks and previously neglected single B sides The 1989 debut album by hip hop combo De La Soul featured an uncredited sample from the Turtles specifically the introduction to You Showed Me in the song Transmitting Live from Mars Kaylan and Volman sued winning a large settlement setting a legal precedent and causing the music industry to begin carefully crediting and paying royalties for sampled works on future rap music and other recordings in general As they explained We don t hate sampling we like sampling If we don t get credit we sue and all that stuff a share of the royalties plus punitive damages comes back to us It was incorrectly reported in 2009 that Volman was involved in another lawsuit against rapper Gucci Mane for an unauthorized sample the sample of Keep It Warm used in Mane s Lemonade was cleared legitimately before the release of the song Also in 1989 the Turtles recording of Happy Together was featured in the eponymous romantic comedy film Happy Together as well as in the film soundtrack album 1990s edit In 1991 Music Club Records released a Turtles anthology in the United Kingdom Happy Together The Best of the Turtles In 1993 Repertoire Records in Germany released their compilation titled Elenore as well as re released the original Happy Together In the same year Rhino Records also presented Captured Live a live album of their 1992 tour In 1994 Sundazed Records re released all of the Turtles original albums and in 1999 Varese Sarabande released Happy Together The Best of White Whale Records which included many of the Turtles singles Original drummer Don Murray born Donald Ray Murray on November 8 1945 died on March 22 1996 at age 50 2000s edit In 2002 the film Adaptation used their song Happy Together extensively as a device to portray the closeness of the two brothers Kaufman both played by Nicolas Cage this film closes with the Turtles version over the final credit scroll and time lapse photography Also the 2005 film Imagine Me amp You the title of which was taken from the first line of the song Happy Together used this song in its end credits In 2009 a Turtles compilation CD titled Save the Turtles The Turtles Greatest Hits was issued on their FloEdCo Record label and distributed by Manifesto Records 11 2010s edit Starting in the summer of 2010 the Turtles Featuring Flo amp Eddie toured throughout the United States as part of the Happy Together 25th Anniversary Tour an oldies concert series that retained the Happy Together moniker in subsequent years They performed alongside other 1960s and 1970s pop stars including Gary Puckett Mitch Ryder Mark Lindsay Mark Farner Gary Lewis and Micky Dolenz 12 The 2015 tour featured the Buckinghams the Cowsills the Grass Roots and the Association In 2016 the complete output of the Turtles was reissued as two box sets titled The Complete Original Album Collection and All the Singles The expanded editions of the six albums contained in the former were issued separately in 2017 In 2018 since Kaylan required heart and back surgery he was prohibited by his doctors from joining the tour so Ron Dante a prolific session musician of the Archies the Cuff Links and the Detergents fame performed for him through the summer of 2021 2020sOriginal rhythm guitarist Jim Tucker born James Roy Tucker on October 17 1946 13 died on November 12 2020 at age 74 14 While the Happy Together tour resumed in 2022 Kaylan is not performing with the group Instead Dante who is not an original member is performing as a member of the Turtles with original member Mark Volman Personnel editCurrent members edit Mark Volman harmony and backing vocals guitar percussion 1965 1970 1983 present Ron Dante lead vocals guitar 2022 present Former members edit Howard Kaylan lead vocals keyboards 1965 1970 1983 2018 Al Nichol lead guitar keyboards backing vocals 1965 1970 Jim Tucker acoustic and electric rhythm guitars backing vocals 1965 1967 died 2020 Chuck Portz bass guitar 1965 1966 Don Murray drums 1965 1966 died 1996 Peter Whitmer drums 1963 Chip Douglas bass guitar backing vocals 1966 1967 Jim Pons bass guitar backing vocals 1967 1970 Joel Larson drums 1966 John Barbata drums percussion 1966 1969 Ran Whitehead drums 1967 John Seiter drums 1969 1970 Timeline Original incarnation of the band 1965 1970 editDiscography editMain article The Turtles discography It Ain t Me Babe 1965 You Baby 1966 Happy Together 1967 The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands 1968 Turtle Soup 1969 See also edit nbsp 1960s portalReferences edit a b Bush John The Turtles Allmusic Retrieved September 20 2021 Simmonds Jeremy 2012 The Encyclopedia of Dead Rock Stars Chicago Review Press p 347 ISBN 978 1613744789 The Turtles Biography Rolling Stone 2004 Archived from the original on September 15 2008 Retrieved December 24 2008 Bush John The Turtles Biography Albums Streaming Links AllMusic Retrieved March 4 2021 a b c d e f g Colin Larkin ed 1997 The Virgin Encyclopedia of Popular Music Concise ed Virgin Books p 1196 ISBN 1 85227 745 9 Greenwald Matthew You Baby The Turtles Song Info AllMusic retrieved March 4 2021 a b c Betts Graham 2004 Complete UK Hit Singles 1952 2004 1st ed London Collins p 802 ISBN 0 00 717931 6 eTerritorial Dispatch Interview With A Turtle Eterritorialdispatch blogspot co uk Retrieved March 17 2017 Flo and Eddie by the Fireside op Myspace Music Gratis Gestreamde MP3s Fotos en Videoclips Myspace com Retrieved January 25 2011 HAPPY TOGETHER TOUR Kingcenter com Retrieved August 27 2019 Save The Turtles The Turtles Greatest Hits Turtles Music Amazon Retrieved January 25 2011 McQuistion James April 30 2011 Happy Together Tour Returns In Summer 2011 Retrieved May 12 2011 James Roy Tucker hooperandweavermortuary com Retrieved March 23 2021 Jim Tucker rhythm guitarist for The Turtles and Grass Valley resident dies at 74 The Union November 16 2020 Retrieved November 17 2020External links editOfficial website Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title The Turtles amp oldid 1213387618, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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