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The Sermon (band)

December 20, 2023

The Sermon were a rock band from Syracuse, New York that lasted from the late 1960s to early 1970s. They are known for their 1969 hit "Never Gonna Find Another Love" which was released on the Kama Sutra record label. They re-united decades later.

The Sermon
Also known asThe Sir-Men, The Sir Men
Years activeLate 1960s to early 1970s
Labels
Past membersJimmy Cox
Kal Dee
Dave Novak
Bob Papaleoni
Bob Stasko
Bill Weiss
Bill Wolfe

Background edit

Formed in mid-1968 and managed by George Plavocos who was a disc jockey with WNDR-AM 1260 disc jockey, they started out as The Sermon and were signed to Transcontinent Records in Buffalo. However an issue involving another New York group with the same name, they had to change their name to The Sir Men. Later they signed to Thunderbird Records they signed as The Sir Men. Later on they would change back to The Sermon.[1][2] They were made up of experienced musicians who had played and recorded in other bands. Kal Dee was the lead singer of a Cortland band, Kal Dee & the Showmen who recorded a single, "Mind Your Mama" bw "I'm Still in Love With You", released on Lawn Records in 1963. He had also played keyboards with Don Barber & The Dukes on their recordings, "The Waddle" bw "What Your Name" which was released on Thunderbird in 1965.

Dave Novak, Bill Weiss and Bill Wolfe had been in The Nightcaps who had released the single "Keep on Runnin" bw "Knock On Wood" in 1967.[1]

History edit

The group played at clubs in Rochester and Buffalo. They also did college parties around the area. They also played venues such as the Campus Inn, Red Dog Saloon and the Holiday Bowl.[1] In 1969 the band had their single "You're Never Gonna Find Another Love" bw What A Day This Could Be" released on Thunderbird 520. The A side was written by Mickey Nicotra and the B side by Carl Falso and Mike Anthony. Both sides were produced by Bruce Dedrick.[3] In addition to production, the background vocals were provided by members of the Dedrick family.[4] On August 16, the record was listed as a pick for the Hot 100 by Billboard in its "Other Picks" section.[5] The Thunderbird single was referred to as a listenable ditty with teen appeal and got a four star rating by Record World in its September 27 issue.[6]

Signed to Kama Sutra edit

In its November 22 article, Record World stated that Buddah Records had reactivated its Kama Sutra label and along with The Jaggerz, The Sermon (referred to as The Sir Men) had been signed to Kama Sutra. The master of their single had been acquired from Thunderbird by promotion director Marty Thau and the single was to appear on Kama Sutra. This came about as a result of the group being discovered by Buddah's mid-West operations manager, Jack Hakim.[7] By 1970, and now credited to The Sermon, the single was released on Kama Sutra KA 501.[8] Due to lack of promotion of them by their label who were concentrating on other artists which included Morris Levy promoting "The Rapper" by The Jaggerz instead of their single, the group broke up in January 1970.[4][2] A review of the single in the January 31 issue of Cashbox said that the single had a sound that demands a second listen and could crop up in the Top 40 with little difficulty.[9] By April, 1970, the record was at #7, just ahead of Aretha Franklin's "Call Me" in the Record World "ONE STOP Top Ten" chart.[10] For two weeks in September, it was #1 on the WOLF-AM weekly vinyl survey. It also hung around in the local chart for nine weeks along with the national hits.[2]

Following the break up in January, 1970 edit

In April, Kal Dee having left the group and was appearing with his group, The Kal Dee Trio at venues. In May, they were playing at the Syracuse Motor Inn's Cavalier Room.[11][12]

Later years edit

Some years after their break up, a compilation album, History of Syracuse Music Volume 3 & 4 was released. It included a demo the group had recorded for their follow up single. The song was a Carl Falso composition, "It Almost Made Me Cry".[13]

In 2016, Dave Novak released his first CD album which included covers of classics and his own compositions.[14]

Reunion edit

In June, 2016, original members Jimmy Cox, Dave Novak, Bill Weiss, Bob Stasko and Bob Papaleoni reunited to perform at Pensebene's Casa Grande on State Fair Blvd. Jimmy Johns was on drums as original drummer Billy Wolfe had since passed away.[2][1]

Members edit

  • Kal Dee ... vocals, trumpet, piano
  • Jimmy Cox ... Hammond B-3 organ
  • Dave Novak ... guitar, vocals
  • Bob Stasko ... sax, flute, maracas, vocals
  • Bob Papaleoni ... drums
  • Bill Weiss ... bass
  • Bill Wolfe ... drums, vocals[1]

Additional edit

Discography edit

Singles
Act Release Catalogue Year Notes #
The Sir Men "You're Never Gonna Find Another Love" / "What A Day This Could Be" Thunderbird TH 520 A 1969
The Sermon "You're Never Gonna Find Another Love" / "What A Day This Could Be" Kama Sutra KA 501 1970
EP
Act Release Catalogue Year Notes #
The Jaggerz
The Sermon 		"The Rapper", "Born Poor"
"What A Day This Could Be", "You´re Never Gonna Find Another Love" 		Kama Sutra 617 104 1970 Portugal release[16]
Compilation appearance
Act Release Catalogue Year Featured track Notes #
The History Of Syracuse Music Volume I
The Groups - 1958-1970 		Various artists ECEIP PSLP 1005 "You're Never Gonna Find Another Love"
The History Of Syracuse Music
Volume III & IV 		Various artists ECEIP PSLP 1007-1010 "What A Day This Could Be", "It Almost Makes Me Cry" [13]
Oldies I Forgot To Buy Various artists Forevermore FVR 5008 1995 "You're Never Gonna Find Another Love" [17]

References edit

  1. ^ a b c d e History of Syracuse Music, Friday, February 3, 2012 - HISTORY OF SYRACUSE MUSIC - CHAPTER 26 - THE SERMON - 1968-71 (Updated)
  2. ^ a b c d Syracuse New Times, June 8, 2016 - ARTS, A Rockin’ Sunday Sermon By Bill DeLapp
  3. ^ 45Cat - The Sir Men - Discography
  4. ^ a b M.C. Antil, Reflections at the speed, August 31, 2015 - Empire Records: Upstate New York’s All-Time Greatest Local Hits, 9. Never Gonna Find Another Love Sermon, 1969
  5. ^ Billboard, Billboard August 16, 1969 - Page 30 Radio-TV Programming, OTHER PICKS, HOT 100
  6. ^ Record World, September 27, 1969 - Page 8 Record World Single Reviews FOUR STAR **** PICKS
  7. ^ Record World, November 22, 1969 - Page 30 Buddah Reactivates Kama Sutra
  8. ^ MusicBrainz - You're Never Gonna Find Another Love / What a Day This Could Be
    ~ Release group by The Sermon
  9. ^ Cashbox, January 31, 1970 - Page 38 CashBox Record Reviews, Choice Programming
  10. ^ Record World, April 11, 1970 - Page 26 Record World ONE STOP Top Ten
  11. ^ Press and Sun-Bulletin, Tuesday, April 21, 1970 - Page 9
  12. ^ The Post-Standard, Thursday, May 14, 1970 - Page 13
  13. ^ a b http://www.DIO.net - History Of Syracuse Music LP Discography
  14. ^ Observer-Dispatch, Sep 1, 2016 - Novak releases definitive CD - Mike Jaquays
  15. ^ See Comments
  16. ^ Discogs - The Sermon, Singles & EPs
  17. ^ Discogs - The Sermon, Compilations

External links edit

  • Syracuse New Times, June 8, 2016: A Rockin’ Sunday Sermon
  • HISTORY OF SYRACUSE MUSIC: CHAPTER 26 - THE SERMON
  • "You're Never Gonna Find Another Love" (Original) - The Sir Men (Sermon)

December 20, 2023
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The Sermon were a rock band from Syracuse New York that lasted from the late 1960s to early 1970s They are known for their 1969 hit Never Gonna Find Another Love which was released on the Kama Sutra record label They re united decades later The SermonAlso known asThe Sir Men The Sir MenYears activeLate 1960s to early 1970sLabelsThunderbirdKama SutraPast membersJimmy CoxKal DeeDave NovakBob PapaleoniBob StaskoBill WeissBill Wolfe Contents 1 Background 2 History 2 1 Signed to Kama Sutra 2 2 Following the break up in January 1970 3 Later years 3 1 Reunion 4 Members 4 1 Additional 5 Discography 6 References 7 External linksBackground editFormed in mid 1968 and managed by George Plavocos who was a disc jockey with WNDR AM 1260 disc jockey they started out as The Sermon and were signed to Transcontinent Records in Buffalo However an issue involving another New York group with the same name they had to change their name to The Sir Men Later they signed to Thunderbird Records they signed as The Sir Men Later on they would change back to The Sermon 1 2 They were made up of experienced musicians who had played and recorded in other bands Kal Dee was the lead singer of a Cortland band Kal Dee amp the Showmen who recorded a single Mind Your Mama bw I m Still in Love With You released on Lawn Records in 1963 He had also played keyboards with Don Barber amp The Dukes on their recordings The Waddle bw What Your Name which was released on Thunderbird in 1965 Dave Novak Bill Weiss and Bill Wolfe had been in The Nightcaps who had released the single Keep on Runnin bw Knock On Wood in 1967 1 History editThe group played at clubs in Rochester and Buffalo They also did college parties around the area They also played venues such as the Campus Inn Red Dog Saloon and the Holiday Bowl 1 In 1969 the band had their single You re Never Gonna Find Another Love bw What A Day This Could Be released on Thunderbird 520 The A side was written by Mickey Nicotra and the B side by Carl Falso and Mike Anthony Both sides were produced by Bruce Dedrick 3 In addition to production the background vocals were provided by members of the Dedrick family 4 On August 16 the record was listed as a pick for the Hot 100 by Billboard in its Other Picks section 5 The Thunderbird single was referred to as a listenable ditty with teen appeal and got a four star rating by Record World in its September 27 issue 6 Signed to Kama Sutra edit In its November 22 article Record World stated that Buddah Records had reactivated its Kama Sutra label and along with The Jaggerz The Sermon referred to as The Sir Men had been signed to Kama Sutra The master of their single had been acquired from Thunderbird by promotion director Marty Thau and the single was to appear on Kama Sutra This came about as a result of the group being discovered by Buddah s mid West operations manager Jack Hakim 7 By 1970 and now credited to The Sermon the single was released on Kama Sutra KA 501 8 Due to lack of promotion of them by their label who were concentrating on other artists which included Morris Levy promoting The Rapper by The Jaggerz instead of their single the group broke up in January 1970 4 2 A review of the single in the January 31 issue of Cashbox said that the single had a sound that demands a second listen and could crop up in the Top 40 with little difficulty 9 By April 1970 the record was at 7 just ahead of Aretha Franklin s Call Me in the Record World ONE STOP Top Ten chart 10 For two weeks in September it was 1 on the WOLF AM weekly vinyl survey It also hung around in the local chart for nine weeks along with the national hits 2 Following the break up in January 1970 edit In April Kal Dee having left the group and was appearing with his group The Kal Dee Trio at venues In May they were playing at the Syracuse Motor Inn s Cavalier Room 11 12 Later years editSome years after their break up a compilation album History of Syracuse Music Volume 3 amp 4 was released It included a demo the group had recorded for their follow up single The song was a Carl Falso composition It Almost Made Me Cry 13 In 2016 Dave Novak released his first CD album which included covers of classics and his own compositions 14 Reunion edit In June 2016 original members Jimmy Cox Dave Novak Bill Weiss Bob Stasko and Bob Papaleoni reunited to perform at Pensebene s Casa Grande on State Fair Blvd Jimmy Johns was on drums as original drummer Billy Wolfe had since passed away 2 1 Members editKal Dee vocals trumpet piano Jimmy Cox Hammond B 3 organ Dave Novak guitar vocals Bob Stasko sax flute maracas vocals Bob Papaleoni drums Bill Weiss bass Bill Wolfe drums vocals 1 Additional edit Frankie Grasso trumpet Steve Cohen trombone Pete Hamilton sax 15 citation needed Discography editSingles Act Release Catalogue Year Notes The Sir Men You re Never Gonna Find Another Love What A Day This Could Be Thunderbird TH 520 A 1969The Sermon You re Never Gonna Find Another Love What A Day This Could Be Kama Sutra KA 501 1970EP Act Release Catalogue Year Notes The JaggerzThe Sermon The Rapper Born Poor What A Day This Could Be You re Never Gonna Find Another Love Kama Sutra 617 104 1970 Portugal release 16 Compilation appearance Act Release Catalogue Year Featured track Notes The History Of Syracuse Music Volume I The Groups 1958 1970 Various artists ECEIP PSLP 1005 You re Never Gonna Find Another Love The History Of Syracuse MusicVolume III amp IV Various artists ECEIP PSLP 1007 1010 What A Day This Could Be It Almost Makes Me Cry 13 Oldies I Forgot To Buy Various artists Forevermore FVR 5008 1995 You re Never Gonna Find Another Love 17 References edit a b c d e History of Syracuse Music Friday February 3 2012 HISTORY OF SYRACUSE MUSIC CHAPTER 26 THE SERMON 1968 71 Updated a b c d Syracuse New Times June 8 2016 ARTS A Rockin Sunday Sermon By Bill DeLapp 45Cat The Sir Men Discography a b M C Antil Reflections at the speed August 31 2015 Empire Records Upstate New York s All Time Greatest Local Hits 9 Never Gonna Find Another Love Sermon 1969 Billboard Billboard August 16 1969 Page 30 Radio TV Programming OTHER PICKS HOT 100 Record World September 27 1969 Page 8 Record World Single Reviews FOUR STAR PICKS Record World November 22 1969 Page 30 Buddah Reactivates Kama Sutra MusicBrainz You re Never Gonna Find Another Love What a Day This Could Be Release group by The Sermon Cashbox January 31 1970 Page 38 CashBox Record Reviews Choice Programming Record World April 11 1970 Page 26 Record World ONE STOP Top Ten Press and Sun Bulletin Tuesday April 21 1970 Page 9 The Post Standard Thursday May 14 1970 Page 13 a b http www DIO net History Of Syracuse Music LP Discography Observer Dispatch Sep 1 2016 Novak releases definitive CD Mike Jaquays See Comments Discogs The Sermon Singles amp EPs Discogs The Sermon CompilationsExternal links editSyracuse New Times June 8 2016 A Rockin Sunday Sermon HISTORY OF SYRACUSE MUSIC CHAPTER 26 THE SERMON You re Never Gonna Find Another Love Original The 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