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The Groop

The Groop were an Australian folk, R&B and rock band formed in 1964 in Melbourne, Victoria and had their greatest chart success with their second line-up of Max Ross on bass, Richard Wright on drums and vocals, Don Mudie on lead guitar, Brian Cadd on keyboards and vocals, and Ronnie Charles on vocals.[1][2] The Wesley Trio formed early in 1964 with Ross, Wright and Peter McKeddie on vocals; they were renamed The Groop at the end of the year.[1][3]

The Groop (Australian band)
Also known asThe Wesley Three
OriginMelbourne, Victoria, Australia
GenresFolk, rock, R&B
Years active1964–1969, 1989
LabelsCBS
Past membersPeter Bruce
Peter McKeddie
Max Ross
Richard Wright
Don Mudie
Brian Cadd
Ronnie Charles
WebsiteAxiom Bank

The Groop's best known hit single "Woman You're Breaking Me" was released in 1967,[1] the band won a trip to United Kingdom but had little success there. Cadd later admitted that their style of music would have suited the US rather than the UK.[1][3][4] Other singles included "Ol' Hound Dog", "Best in Africa", "I'm Satisfied", "Sorry", "Seems More Important to Me" and "Such a Lovely Way".[1][5]

When The Groop disbanded in 1969, Cadd and Mudie formed Axiom with Glenn Shorrock (later in Little River Band).[2] Cadd was inducted into the Australian Recording Industry Association (ARIA) Hall of Fame in 2007, for his work with The Groop, Axiom and as a solo artist.[6][7]

History edit

1964–1966: The Groop mark I edit

The Wesley Trio was formed as a folk music group in 1964 with Peter McKeddie on vocals, Max Ross on bass guitar and Richard Wright on drums; all three were students from Wesley College, a private school in Melbourne.[3] The trio signed with CBS Records Melbourne, which released a single, an EP and an album.[1][3]

They decided to become more R&B orientated and placed an ad for a guitarist, and, with Peter Bruce joining, they were renamed The Groop in late 1964.[1][2][3] At the time, Bruce (originally from England) claimed that he had been a member of UK pop group Dave Clark Five in their early years as Dave Clark Quintet in 1957.[1][3] In a 2002 interview, Bruce admitted that he had only been in a support act, The Hill City Skiffle Group and never actually in Dave Clark's band.[3] The Groop had success on the Melbourne singles chart with "Ol' Hound Dog" reaching No. 13, "Best in Africa" No. 10 and "I'm Satisfied" No. 21 in 1966.[5] They were assisted by positive reviews from Ian "Molly" Meldrum writer for national pop magazine Go-Set who had earlier been their roadie.[3] This version of The Groop also recorded two albums, The Groop (1965) and I'm Satisfied (1966) both on CBS Records.[1][3] In August 1966, founders McKeddie and Bruce left, but instead of disbanding the Rhythm section of Ross and Wright invited Don Mudie (ex-Sherwood Green) to join on guitars. At McKeddie's farewell party – he was travelling to UK – The Groop were supported by another R&B outfit The Jackson Kings.[3] The Groop invited their keyboardist Brian Cadd to join, Cadd insisted on bringing along bandmate Ronnie Charles (Ron Boromeo) as vocalist.[1]

1966–1969: The Groop mark II edit

The Groop were searching for a more Blues / Rock sound,[1] and when Cadd joined in October 1966 he used a pseudonym, Brian Caine, after advice from Meldrum that Cadd didn't sound good as a rock artist's name.[1][3][4] Cadd soon changed his name back after family protests.[1][3] The new line-up of Cadd, Charles, Mudie, Ross and Wright,[2][3] released "Sorry" which reached No. 12 on the Melbourne charts in January 1967.[5][8] Their next single, released in May 1967, "Woman You're Breaking Me" (written by Cadd and Wright)[9] reached No. 4 in Melbourne,[5] No. 12 in Sydney,[1] and was their only national top ten hit.[10]

The band won a trip to UK from the 1967 Hoadley's National Battle of the Sounds in July,[1][4] with "When I Was Six Years Old" written by Cadd and Ross.[9] Meldrum, writing for Go-Set reported:

"It was The Groop's day. Their performance was brilliant and they left no doubts in anyone's mind that they will be great ambassadors overseas, both with their music and their personalities."[3]

— Ian "Molly" Meldrum, July 1967

Publishers sent the song to England where it was recorded by Manfred Mann's lead vocalist Paul Jones.[3] Melbourne singer Ronnie Burns (close friend of Meldrum) had a local No. 22 hit with "When I Was Six Years Old" in 1968.[2][5] Leaving the single "Seems More Important to Me" behind in Melbourne to reach No. 30 in early 1968,[5] The Groop travelled to UK on the Sitmar line cruiser "Castel Felice". They gave several onboard performances during the voyage.

The Groop arrived in the UK as Paul Jones' cover of "When I Was Six Years Old" was released and they secured a deal with CBS in England, then toured there and in Germany.[4] Band members had written most of their hits in Australia, but CBS decided they would cover an Italian ballad, "What's The Good of Goodbye", which failed to chart. The Groop returned to Australia by October 1968 and Ross left the band.[4] They released two more singles, but only "Such A Lovely Way" reached the national top 20[10] before they disbanded in May 1969.[4] Their last recorded work was an uncredited appearance as instrumental support on Russell Morris' No. 1 single "The Real Thing".[2][3][4][10] Cadd and Mudie were eager to explore a more rock sound and so disbanded The Groop to form Axiom.[1] The second version of The Groop had recorded the studio album Woman You're Breaking Me (1967), whilst the compilation Great Hits from The Groop (1968) was released while they were in UK.[3]

After The Groop edit

Following the break-up of The Groop, Cadd and Mudie formed Axiom in May 1969 with Glenn Shorrock (ex-The Twilights) on vocals, Doug Lavery (ex-The Valentines) on drums and Chris Stockley (ex-Cam-Pact) on guitar.[1][2][3] Cadd and Mudie were the primary songwriters for Axiom including their three hit singles, "Arkansas Grass", "A Little Ray of Sunshine" and "My Baby's Gone".[3][9][10] After Axiom disbanded in 1971, Cadd and Mudie had a No. 15 single in early 1972 with "Show Me the Way".[1][10] Cadd then pursued a solo career as a performer, songwriter, record producer, label owner and film and TV score composer.[3] In 2007 Cadd was inducted into the ARIA Hall of Fame, which acknowledged his iconic status including his work for The Groop.[11]

1988–1989: Brief reformation edit

The Groop reformed for a national tour from late 1988 to early 1989, with members from both versions: Bruce, Charles, McKeddie, Mudie and Wright; plus Rob Glover on bass (ex-Sports) and Tweed Harris on keyboards (ex-Groove).[1][3] A CD compilation was released by CBS in 1989, The Best and The Rest.[2]

Discography edit

Albums edit

  • The GroopCBS (1965)
  • I'm Satisfied – CBS (1966)
  • Woman You're Breaking Me – CBS (1967)
  • Great Hits from the Groop - Music for Pleasure (1977)
  • Best of the Rest - CBS (1989)

Extended plays edit

  • Woman You're Breaking Me (CBS) (1966)
  • Such a Lovely Way (CBS) (1968)
  • Raven RV07 (1974)

Singles edit

Year Single Chart Positions Label
AU
1965 "Mojo" - W&G
"Ol' Hound Dog" 30 CBS
1966 "The Best in Africa" 32 CBS
"I'm Satisfied" 53 CBS
"Empty Words" 99 CBS
1967 "Sorry" / "Who Do You Love" 34 CBS
"Woman You're Breaking Me" / "Mad Over You" 6 CBS
"Annabelle Lee" / "Seems More Important To Me" 40 CBS
1968 "Lovin' Tree" / "Nite Life" 65 CBS
1969 "Such a Lovely Way" / "We Can Talk" 13 CBS
"You Gotta Live Love" / "Sally's Mine" 92 CBS


Awards and nominations edit

Go-Set Pop Poll edit

The Go-Set Pop Poll was coordinated by teen-oriented pop music newspaper, Go-Set and was established in February 1966 and conducted an annual poll during 1966 to 1972 of its readers to determine the most popular personalities.[12]

Year Nominee / work Award Result
1967 themselves Top Australian Group 3rd

External links edit

  • Milesago entry
  • Discography at Australian Rock Database

References edit

  1. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s McFarlane, Ian (1999). "Encyclopedia entry for 'The Groop'". Encyclopedia of Australian Rock and Pop. St Leonards, NSW: Allen & Unwin. ISBN 1-86448-768-2. Retrieved 29 May 2008.
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h Holmgren, Magnus. . Australian Rock Database. Passagen.se (Magnus Holmgren). Archived from the original on 16 September 2012. Retrieved 22 March 2014.
  3. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u Culnane, Paul (2007). "The Groop". Milesago. Retrieved 29 May 2008.
  4. ^ a b c d e f g . Nostalgia Central. Archived from the original on 19 June 2008. Retrieved 29 May 2008.
  5. ^ a b c d e f Guest, Thomas J. (1991). Thirty Years of Hits. Collingwood, Melbourne: M. J. Maloney. ISBN 0-646-04633-0.
  6. ^ . Australian Recording Industry Association (ARIA). Archived from the original on 15 June 2008. Retrieved 25 May 2008.
  7. ^ "Winners by Award: Hall of Fame". ARIA. Retrieved 25 May 2008.
  8. ^ "The Groop "Sorry"". PopArchives. Retrieved 29 May 2008.
  9. ^ a b c "Australasian Performing Right Association (APRA)". APRA. Retrieved 26 May 2008.
  10. ^ a b c d e Kent, David (2005). Australian Chart Book (1940–1969). Turramurra, N.S.W.: Australian Chart Book, 2005. ISBN 0-646-44439-5.
  11. ^ Pope, Mark (14 June 2007). "Radios appear! More musicians to enter ARIA's Hall of Fame" (PDF). ARIA. Retrieved 27 May 2008.
  12. ^ "Australian Music Awards". Ron Jeff. Retrieved 16 December 2010.

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This article is about the Australian band For the US group see The Groop US band For the Anglo French band sometimes known as the Groop see Stereolab The Groop were an Australian folk R amp B and rock band formed in 1964 in Melbourne Victoria and had their greatest chart success with their second line up of Max Ross on bass Richard Wright on drums and vocals Don Mudie on lead guitar Brian Cadd on keyboards and vocals and Ronnie Charles on vocals 1 2 The Wesley Trio formed early in 1964 with Ross Wright and Peter McKeddie on vocals they were renamed The Groop at the end of the year 1 3 The Groop Australian band Also known asThe Wesley ThreeOriginMelbourne Victoria AustraliaGenresFolk rock R amp BYears active1964 1969 1989LabelsCBSPast membersPeter BrucePeter McKeddieMax RossRichard WrightDon MudieBrian CaddRonnie CharlesWebsiteAxiom Bank The Groop s best known hit single Woman You re Breaking Me was released in 1967 1 the band won a trip to United Kingdom but had little success there Cadd later admitted that their style of music would have suited the US rather than the UK 1 3 4 Other singles included Ol Hound Dog Best in Africa I m Satisfied Sorry Seems More Important to Me and Such a Lovely Way 1 5 When The Groop disbanded in 1969 Cadd and Mudie formed Axiom with Glenn Shorrock later in Little River Band 2 Cadd was inducted into the Australian Recording Industry Association ARIA Hall of Fame in 2007 for his work with The Groop Axiom and as a solo artist 6 7 Contents 1 History 1 1 1964 1966 The Groop mark I 1 2 1966 1969 The Groop mark II 1 3 After The Groop 1 4 1988 1989 Brief reformation 2 Discography 2 1 Albums 2 2 Extended plays 2 3 Singles 3 Awards and nominations 3 1 Go Set Pop Poll 4 External links 5 ReferencesHistory edit1964 1966 The Groop mark I edit The Wesley Trio was formed as a folk music group in 1964 with Peter McKeddie on vocals Max Ross on bass guitar and Richard Wright on drums all three were students from Wesley College a private school in Melbourne 3 The trio signed with CBS Records Melbourne which released a single an EP and an album 1 3 They decided to become more R amp B orientated and placed an ad for a guitarist and with Peter Bruce joining they were renamed The Groop in late 1964 1 2 3 At the time Bruce originally from England claimed that he had been a member of UK pop group Dave Clark Five in their early years as Dave Clark Quintet in 1957 1 3 In a 2002 interview Bruce admitted that he had only been in a support act The Hill City Skiffle Group and never actually in Dave Clark s band 3 The Groop had success on the Melbourne singles chart with Ol Hound Dog reaching No 13 Best in Africa No 10 and I m Satisfied No 21 in 1966 5 They were assisted by positive reviews from Ian Molly Meldrum writer for national pop magazine Go Set who had earlier been their roadie 3 This version of The Groop also recorded two albums The Groop 1965 and I m Satisfied 1966 both on CBS Records 1 3 In August 1966 founders McKeddie and Bruce left but instead of disbanding the Rhythm section of Ross and Wright invited Don Mudie ex Sherwood Green to join on guitars At McKeddie s farewell party he was travelling to UK The Groop were supported by another R amp B outfit The Jackson Kings 3 The Groop invited their keyboardist Brian Cadd to join Cadd insisted on bringing along bandmate Ronnie Charles Ron Boromeo as vocalist 1 1966 1969 The Groop mark II edit The Groop were searching for a more Blues Rock sound 1 and when Cadd joined in October 1966 he used a pseudonym Brian Caine after advice from Meldrum that Cadd didn t sound good as a rock artist s name 1 3 4 Cadd soon changed his name back after family protests 1 3 The new line up of Cadd Charles Mudie Ross and Wright 2 3 released Sorry which reached No 12 on the Melbourne charts in January 1967 5 8 Their next single released in May 1967 Woman You re Breaking Me written by Cadd and Wright 9 reached No 4 in Melbourne 5 No 12 in Sydney 1 and was their only national top ten hit 10 The band won a trip to UK from the 1967 Hoadley s National Battle of the Sounds in July 1 4 with When I Was Six Years Old written by Cadd and Ross 9 Meldrum writing for Go Set reported It was The Groop s day Their performance was brilliant and they left no doubts in anyone s mind that they will be great ambassadors overseas both with their music and their personalities 3 Ian Molly Meldrum July 1967 Publishers sent the song to England where it was recorded by Manfred Mann s lead vocalist Paul Jones 3 Melbourne singer Ronnie Burns close friend of Meldrum had a local No 22 hit with When I Was Six Years Old in 1968 2 5 Leaving the single Seems More Important to Me behind in Melbourne to reach No 30 in early 1968 5 The Groop travelled to UK on the Sitmar line cruiser Castel Felice They gave several onboard performances during the voyage The Groop arrived in the UK as Paul Jones cover of When I Was Six Years Old was released and they secured a deal with CBS in England then toured there and in Germany 4 Band members had written most of their hits in Australia but CBS decided they would cover an Italian ballad What s The Good of Goodbye which failed to chart The Groop returned to Australia by October 1968 and Ross left the band 4 They released two more singles but only Such A Lovely Way reached the national top 20 10 before they disbanded in May 1969 4 Their last recorded work was an uncredited appearance as instrumental support on Russell Morris No 1 single The Real Thing 2 3 4 10 Cadd and Mudie were eager to explore a more rock sound and so disbanded The Groop to form Axiom 1 The second version of The Groop had recorded the studio album Woman You re Breaking Me 1967 whilst the compilation Great Hits from The Groop 1968 was released while they were in UK 3 After The Groop edit Main articles Axiom Australian band and Brian Cadd Following the break up of The Groop Cadd and Mudie formed Axiom in May 1969 with Glenn Shorrock ex The Twilights on vocals Doug Lavery ex The Valentines on drums and Chris Stockley ex Cam Pact on guitar 1 2 3 Cadd and Mudie were the primary songwriters for Axiom including their three hit singles Arkansas Grass A Little Ray of Sunshine and My Baby s Gone 3 9 10 After Axiom disbanded in 1971 Cadd and Mudie had a No 15 single in early 1972 with Show Me the Way 1 10 Cadd then pursued a solo career as a performer songwriter record producer label owner and film and TV score composer 3 In 2007 Cadd was inducted into the ARIA Hall of Fame which acknowledged his iconic status including his work for The Groop 11 1988 1989 Brief reformation edit The Groop reformed for a national tour from late 1988 to early 1989 with members from both versions Bruce Charles McKeddie Mudie and Wright plus Rob Glover on bass ex Sports and Tweed Harris on keyboards ex Groove 1 3 A CD compilation was released by CBS in 1989 The Best and The Rest 2 Discography editAlbums edit The Groop CBS 1965 I m Satisfied CBS 1966 Woman You re Breaking Me CBS 1967 Great Hits from the Groop Music for Pleasure 1977 Best of the Rest CBS 1989 Extended plays edit Woman You re Breaking Me CBS 1966 Such a Lovely Way CBS 1968 Raven RV07 1974 Singles edit Year Single Chart Positions Label AU 1965 Mojo W amp G Ol Hound Dog 30 CBS 1966 The Best in Africa 32 CBS I m Satisfied 53 CBS Empty Words 99 CBS 1967 Sorry Who Do You Love 34 CBS Woman You re Breaking Me Mad Over You 6 CBS Annabelle Lee Seems More Important To Me 40 CBS 1968 Lovin Tree Nite Life 65 CBS 1969 Such a Lovely Way We Can Talk 13 CBS You Gotta Live Love Sally s Mine 92 CBSAwards and nominations editGo Set Pop Poll edit The Go Set Pop Poll was coordinated by teen oriented pop music newspaper Go Set and was established in February 1966 and conducted an annual poll during 1966 to 1972 of its readers to determine the most popular personalities 12 Year Nominee work Award Result 1967 themselves Top Australian Group 3rdExternal links editMilesago entry Discography at Australian Rock DatabaseReferences edit a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s McFarlane Ian 1999 Encyclopedia entry for The Groop Encyclopedia of Australian Rock and Pop St Leonards NSW Allen amp Unwin ISBN 1 86448 768 2 Retrieved 29 May 2008 a b c d e f g h Holmgren Magnus The Groop Australian Rock Database Passagen se Magnus Holmgren Archived from the original on 16 September 2012 Retrieved 22 March 2014 a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u Culnane Paul 2007 The Groop Milesago Retrieved 29 May 2008 a b c d e f g The Groop Nostalgia Central Archived from the original on 19 June 2008 Retrieved 29 May 2008 a b c d e f Guest Thomas J 1991 Thirty Years of Hits Collingwood Melbourne M J Maloney ISBN 0 646 04633 0 ARIA 2008 Hall of Fame inductees listing Australian Recording Industry Association ARIA Archived from the original on 15 June 2008 Retrieved 25 May 2008 Winners by Award Hall of Fame ARIA Retrieved 25 May 2008 The Groop Sorry PopArchives Retrieved 29 May 2008 a b c Australasian Performing Right Association APRA APRA Retrieved 26 May 2008 a b c d e Kent David 2005 Australian Chart Book 1940 1969 Turramurra N S W Australian Chart Book 2005 ISBN 0 646 44439 5 Pope Mark 14 June 2007 Radios appear More musicians to enter ARIA s Hall of Fame PDF ARIA Retrieved 27 May 2008 Australian Music Awards Ron Jeff Retrieved 16 December 2010 Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title The Groop amp oldid 1153522967, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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