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The 'B' Girls

The 'B' Girls were a Toronto punk rock band from the first wave of punk rock in the late 1970s and early 1980s.[1] Where Toronto band The Curse was North America's first all-female punk band, the B-Girls were the second such band in Toronto.[2]

The 'B' Girls
The 'B' Girls in Japan, 2018
Background information
OriginToronto, Canada
GenresPunk rock
Years active1977–1982
LabelsBomp! Records, Other Peoples Music
MembersLucasta Ross (nee Rochas)
Renee Schilhab
Xenia Holiday
Cynthia Ross
Rhonda Ross
Marcy Saddy
Elisa Moldanado
Lyla Vander

History edit

The 'B' Girls formed in 1977 after Cynthia and Lucasta met at the after-party of a Thin Lizzy concert. Both had been hanging out at the punk clubs and watching guys start bands, noting that most of them couldn't play. Lucasta was already a singer; Cynthia played piano; she translated that to the bass guitar. They recruited her sister Rhonda Ross as the drummer and Lucasta's friends Renee Schilhab and Xenia Holiday (nee Splawinsky) on guitar. At 20, Cynthia was the oldest band member. Rhonda would later be replaced by Marcy Saddy who had briefly played with the Demics. Cynthia and Rhonda are sisters and are not related to Lucasta.[3]

The band chose the name after it was suggested by John Catto, guitarist for Diodes. 'B-Girls' were women who, in the post-World War Two era, got a take from bartenders after getting men to buy them drinks. Catto designed the band's logo and made the stencil for them; Cynthia painted all the T-shirts, the band made its own buttons and fliers, and only recorded the 'B' sides of covers because they were less expensive. They also set rules: no politics, no short skirts or shorts on stage, and no cleavage. Cynthia believes that their refusal to be sex objects was the reason they never secured a record deal.[4]

Using gear borrowed from The Diodes, the four women began practicing in a basement in the Toronto suburb of Thornhill, working to hone a sound like The Ronettes or The Crystals. Their sound was closer to that of a 1960s Mersey Beat band than the usual loud, fast punk sound of the era. That was reflected in their dress, which included go-go boots, tight leggings and matching sweaters. They first perfected Nancy Sinatra's hit "These Boots Are Made for Walkin'", then added their own material. When they had six songs, they made their debut opening for The Viletones at Toronto's famed gay bar Club David's.[5] They played the six songs twice, in a different order. No one minded. As Sam Sutherland noted in his 2012 book Perfect Youth: The Birth of Canadian Punk, "Their lack of technical ability gave them a distinctly punk edge. Combined with Lucasta's trained professional singing voice, they were the perfect mix of punk ethos and pop ideal, a compelling mix that garnered the band a substantial fan base almost instantly."[6]

The band soon became a fixture on the Toronto punk scene, playing clubs alongside Teenage Head, The Curse, The Poles, the Diodes and the Viletones.[7] In September 1979, they toured with The Clash and The Undertones;[8] they also opened for Iggy Pop and Blondie.[9] The first time he heard the B-Girls, Toronto Star music critic Peter Goddard wrote that they were "too bad to set a bad example"; six months later, he called them "the most improved band in rock and roll".[10]

In 1979 Greg Shaw, owner of Bomp! Records signed them to release the singles "Fun At The Beach" and "B-Side", which were produced by Bob Segarini.[11][12] The singles were also released in the UK and Japan.

By 1980, The B-Girls were booked once a month at New York's CBGB. Cynthia had also become engaged to Dead Boys singer Stiv Bators. It was better than the band moved to New York. Lucasta and Rhonda declined. Xenia replaced Lucasta on vocals and Rhonda was replaced by former Demics drummer Marcy Saddy. The four women spent the first month sleeping on the floor of Sylvain Sylvain's apartment; they were soon getting steady gigs at CBGB and Max's Kansas City, often with Debbie Harry manning the sound system. They opened for Elvis Costello, The Heartbreakers, The Stranglers, Sham 69, Crowded House, The B-52's, The Romantics, Levi and the Rockats, Nikki & the Corvettes, Richard Hell, Lee Dorsey, The Cramps, Joey Ramone, Joan Jett, Johnny Thunders, and even Allen Ginsberg.[13]

While their music was popular in Japan and the UK, they never toured out of the Toronto-New York area. They made one trip, to play the Whisky a Go Go in Los Angeles; while there, they sang (uncredited) back-up vocals on Blondie's hit song "The Tide Is High" and Bator's solo album, Disconnected.[14][15] A video was shot for "High School Dance" (A.K.A. "Boys Are Drinking") and they created several demos, produced by Harry, Mick Jones, Craig Leon, and Liam Sternberg. I.R.S. Records and Phil Spector showed interest in signing them to a record deal, but that did not materialize. In 1982, the band returned to Toronto and broke up.

After the break-up, Lucasta formed a new band called Minutes From Downtown who had a hit with "Wrapped In Velvet".[16] Marcy Saddy joined Certain General before becoming a full-time artist. Holiday became a yoga instructor. Schilhab married, became a reporter (as Renee Bullock), then a documentary filmmaker; she died of cancer in 2020.[17][18] Cynthia Ross took time off to raise a family, then formed a band called New York Junk.[19]

The 'B' Girls' collected recordings, remastered by Peter J. Moore, were released in 1997 as Who Says Girls Can't Rock.[20][21] The members of the band appear in the 2013 documentary The Last Pogo Jumps Again.

In 2017, all of the B-Girls demos from 1977 to 1982 were released on the album Bad Not Evil.[22] Cynthia and Lucasta re-formed the band, with The Trash Bags guitarist Elisa Moldanado and drummer Lyla Vander, from the band Roya. They played several gigs in the New York area but did not continue.[23]

Discography edit

  • "Fun At The Beach" / "B Side" (1979, Singles) BOMP!
  • Who Says Girls Can't Rock (1997), Other Peoples Music
  • Bad Not Evil (2017), BOMP!

Compilation Inclusions

References edit

  1. ^ Nigro, Producer, Vanessa. . cbc.ca. CBC Radio. Archived from the original on 3 August 2021. Retrieved 3 August 2021.
  2. ^ Sutherland, Sam (October 2012). Perfect Youth: The Birth of Canadian Punk, pp 178-194. ISBN 9781770902787. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  3. ^ Haben, Amy (13 September 2017). "Interview With Cynthia Ross, Sept 2017". pleasekillme.com. Please Kill Me. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  4. ^ Haben, Amy (13 September 2017). "Interview With Cynthia Ross, Sept 2017". pleasekillme.com. Please Kill Me. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  5. ^ Benson, Denise (24 November 2014). "Then & Now: Club David's, Nov 2014". thenandnowtoronto.com. Then & Now Toronto. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  6. ^ Sutherland, Sam (October 2012). Perfect Youth: The Birth of Canadian Punk, pp 178-194. ISBN 9781770902787. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  7. ^ Freer, Peter (12 April 2019). "Teenage Head re-release...Apr 2019". The Toronto Star. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  8. ^ "The B Girls's Concert History". concertarchives.org. Concert Archives. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  9. ^ Haben, Amy (13 September 2017). "Interview With Cynthia Ross, Sept 2017". pleasekillme.com. Please Kill Me. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  10. ^ Sutherland, Sam (October 2012). Perfect Youth: The Birth of Canadian Punk, pp 178-194. ISBN 9781770902787. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  11. ^ "The 'B' Girls – Fun At The Beach". discogs.com. Discogs. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  12. ^ Panontin, Michael. "Fun at the Beach Release". canuckistanmusic.com. Canuckistan Music. Retrieved 3 August 2021.
  13. ^ Haben, Amy (13 September 2017). "Interview With Cynthia Ross, Sept 2017". pleasekillme.com. Please Kill Me. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  14. ^ "Stiv Bators – Disconnected". discogs.com. Discogs. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  15. ^ Haben, Amy (13 September 2017). "Interview With Cynthia Ross, Sept 2017". pleasekillme.com. Please Kill Me. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  16. ^ "Minutes From Downtown – Minutes From Downtown". discogs.com. Discogs. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  17. ^ "Renee Schilhab Bullock Obituary". easthamptonstar.com. The East Hampton Star. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  18. ^ "Passing of Renee Bullock". facebook.com. Facebook, Boys In The Boat. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  19. ^ "New York Junk". tarbeachmusic.com. Tarbeach Records. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  20. ^ "The 'B' Girls – Who Says Girls Can't Rock". discogs.com. Discogs. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  21. ^ Reno, Brad. "Who Says Girls Can't Rock Review". trouserpress.com. Trouser Press. Retrieved 3 August 2021.
  22. ^ "The 'B' Girls – Bad Not Evil". discogs.com. Discogs. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  23. ^ Haben, Amy (13 September 2017). "Interview With Cynthia Ross, Sept 2017". pleasekillme.com. Please Kill Me. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  24. ^ "Various – Who Put The Bomp?". discogs.com. Discogs. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  25. ^ "Various – Stiv - No Compromise No Regrets". discogs.com. Discogs. Retrieved 1 March 2022.
  26. ^ "Various – Girls Go Power Pop!". discogs.com. Discogs. Retrieved 1 March 2022.

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The B Girls were a Toronto punk rock band from the first wave of punk rock in the late 1970s and early 1980s 1 Where Toronto band The Curse was North America s first all female punk band the B Girls were the second such band in Toronto 2 The B GirlsThe B Girls in Japan 2018Background informationOriginToronto CanadaGenresPunk rockYears active1977 1982LabelsBomp Records Other Peoples MusicMembersLucasta Ross nee Rochas Renee SchilhabXenia HolidayCynthia RossRhonda RossMarcy SaddyElisa MoldanadoLyla VanderHistory editThe B Girls formed in 1977 after Cynthia and Lucasta met at the after party of a Thin Lizzy concert Both had been hanging out at the punk clubs and watching guys start bands noting that most of them couldn t play Lucasta was already a singer Cynthia played piano she translated that to the bass guitar They recruited her sister Rhonda Ross as the drummer and Lucasta s friends Renee Schilhab and Xenia Holiday nee Splawinsky on guitar At 20 Cynthia was the oldest band member Rhonda would later be replaced by Marcy Saddy who had briefly played with the Demics Cynthia and Rhonda are sisters and are not related to Lucasta 3 The band chose the name after it was suggested by John Catto guitarist for Diodes B Girls were women who in the post World War Two era got a take from bartenders after getting men to buy them drinks Catto designed the band s logo and made the stencil for them Cynthia painted all the T shirts the band made its own buttons and fliers and only recorded the B sides of covers because they were less expensive They also set rules no politics no short skirts or shorts on stage and no cleavage Cynthia believes that their refusal to be sex objects was the reason they never secured a record deal 4 Using gear borrowed from The Diodes the four women began practicing in a basement in the Toronto suburb of Thornhill working to hone a sound like The Ronettes or The Crystals Their sound was closer to that of a 1960s Mersey Beat band than the usual loud fast punk sound of the era That was reflected in their dress which included go go boots tight leggings and matching sweaters They first perfected Nancy Sinatra s hit These Boots Are Made for Walkin then added their own material When they had six songs they made their debut opening for The Viletones at Toronto s famed gay bar Club David s 5 They played the six songs twice in a different order No one minded As Sam Sutherland noted in his 2012 book Perfect Youth The Birth of Canadian Punk Their lack of technical ability gave them a distinctly punk edge Combined with Lucasta s trained professional singing voice they were the perfect mix of punk ethos and pop ideal a compelling mix that garnered the band a substantial fan base almost instantly 6 The band soon became a fixture on the Toronto punk scene playing clubs alongside Teenage Head The Curse The Poles the Diodes and the Viletones 7 In September 1979 they toured with The Clash and The Undertones 8 they also opened for Iggy Pop and Blondie 9 The first time he heard the B Girls Toronto Star music critic Peter Goddard wrote that they were too bad to set a bad example six months later he called them the most improved band in rock and roll 10 In 1979 Greg Shaw owner of Bomp Records signed them to release the singles Fun At The Beach and B Side which were produced by Bob Segarini 11 12 The singles were also released in the UK and Japan By 1980 The B Girls were booked once a month at New York s CBGB Cynthia had also become engaged to Dead Boys singer Stiv Bators It was better than the band moved to New York Lucasta and Rhonda declined Xenia replaced Lucasta on vocals and Rhonda was replaced by former Demics drummer Marcy Saddy The four women spent the first month sleeping on the floor of Sylvain Sylvain s apartment they were soon getting steady gigs at CBGB and Max s Kansas City often with Debbie Harry manning the sound system They opened for Elvis Costello The Heartbreakers The Stranglers Sham 69 Crowded House The B 52 s The Romantics Levi and the Rockats Nikki amp the Corvettes Richard Hell Lee Dorsey The Cramps Joey Ramone Joan Jett Johnny Thunders and even Allen Ginsberg 13 While their music was popular in Japan and the UK they never toured out of the Toronto New York area They made one trip to play the Whisky a Go Go in Los Angeles while there they sang uncredited back up vocals on Blondie s hit song The Tide Is High and Bator s solo album Disconnected 14 15 A video was shot for High School Dance A K A Boys Are Drinking and they created several demos produced by Harry Mick Jones Craig Leon and Liam Sternberg I R S Records and Phil Spector showed interest in signing them to a record deal but that did not materialize In 1982 the band returned to Toronto and broke up After the break up Lucasta formed a new band called Minutes From Downtown who had a hit with Wrapped In Velvet 16 Marcy Saddy joined Certain General before becoming a full time artist Holiday became a yoga instructor Schilhab married became a reporter as Renee Bullock then a documentary filmmaker she died of cancer in 2020 17 18 Cynthia Ross took time off to raise a family then formed a band called New York Junk 19 The B Girls collected recordings remastered by Peter J Moore were released in 1997 as Who Says Girls Can t Rock 20 21 The members of the band appear in the 2013 documentary The Last Pogo Jumps Again In 2017 all of the B Girls demos from 1977 to 1982 were released on the album Bad Not Evil 22 Cynthia and Lucasta re formed the band with The Trash Bags guitarist Elisa Moldanado and drummer Lyla Vander from the band Roya They played several gigs in the New York area but did not continue 23 Discography edit Fun At The Beach B Side 1979 Singles BOMP Who Says Girls Can t Rock 1997 Other Peoples Music Bad Not Evil 2017 BOMP Compilation Inclusions Who Put The Bomp 1979 Decca Records 24 Stiv No Compromise No Regrets 2019 MVD Audio 25 Girls Go Power Pop 2020 Big Beat Records 26 References edit Nigro Producer Vanessa An Oral History of the B Girls Radio Interview cbc ca CBC Radio Archived from the original on 3 August 2021 Retrieved 3 August 2021 Sutherland Sam October 2012 Perfect Youth The Birth of Canadian Punk pp 178 194 ISBN 9781770902787 Retrieved 1 March 2022 Haben Amy 13 September 2017 Interview With Cynthia Ross Sept 2017 pleasekillme com Please Kill Me Retrieved 1 March 2022 Haben Amy 13 September 2017 Interview With Cynthia Ross Sept 2017 pleasekillme com Please Kill Me Retrieved 1 March 2022 Benson Denise 24 November 2014 Then amp Now Club David s Nov 2014 thenandnowtoronto com Then amp Now Toronto Retrieved 1 March 2022 Sutherland Sam October 2012 Perfect Youth The Birth of Canadian Punk pp 178 194 ISBN 9781770902787 Retrieved 1 March 2022 Freer Peter 12 April 2019 Teenage Head re release Apr 2019 The Toronto Star Retrieved 1 March 2022 The B Girls s Concert History concertarchives org Concert Archives Retrieved 1 March 2022 Haben Amy 13 September 2017 Interview With Cynthia Ross Sept 2017 pleasekillme com Please Kill Me Retrieved 1 March 2022 Sutherland Sam October 2012 Perfect Youth The Birth of Canadian Punk pp 178 194 ISBN 9781770902787 Retrieved 1 March 2022 The B Girls Fun At The Beach discogs com Discogs Retrieved 1 March 2022 Panontin Michael Fun at the Beach Release canuckistanmusic com Canuckistan Music Retrieved 3 August 2021 Haben Amy 13 September 2017 Interview With Cynthia Ross Sept 2017 pleasekillme com Please Kill Me Retrieved 1 March 2022 Stiv Bators Disconnected discogs com Discogs Retrieved 1 March 2022 Haben Amy 13 September 2017 Interview With Cynthia Ross Sept 2017 pleasekillme com Please Kill Me Retrieved 1 March 2022 Minutes From Downtown Minutes From Downtown discogs com Discogs Retrieved 1 March 2022 Renee Schilhab Bullock Obituary easthamptonstar com The East Hampton Star Retrieved 1 March 2022 Passing of Renee Bullock facebook com Facebook Boys In The Boat Retrieved 1 March 2022 New York Junk tarbeachmusic com Tarbeach Records Retrieved 1 March 2022 The B Girls Who Says Girls Can t Rock discogs com Discogs Retrieved 1 March 2022 Reno Brad Who Says Girls Can t Rock Review trouserpress com Trouser Press Retrieved 3 August 2021 The B Girls Bad Not Evil discogs com Discogs Retrieved 1 March 2022 Haben Amy 13 September 2017 Interview With Cynthia Ross Sept 2017 pleasekillme com Please Kill Me Retrieved 1 March 2022 Various Who Put The Bomp discogs com Discogs Retrieved 1 March 2022 Various Stiv No Compromise No Regrets discogs com Discogs Retrieved 1 March 2022 Various Girls Go Power Pop discogs com Discogs Retrieved 1 March 2022 Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title The 27B 27 Girls amp oldid 1154131169, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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