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Soweto derby

The Soweto Derby is a football rivalry between Premier Soccer League's Kaizer Chiefs and Orlando Pirates in South Africa. It was first contested on 24 January 1970.[1] Matches between the two rivals attract a large fanbase. The rivalry is recognised as one of the biggest derbies in Africa.

Soweto Derby
An Orlando Pirates fan and a Kaizer Chiefs fan before the Soweto derby.
Other names"El Kasico"
LocationSoweto, Johannesburg, South Africa
Teams
First meeting24 January 1970
Latest meeting6 May 2023

Pirates 2-1 Chiefs

Nedbank Cup
Next meetingTBA
StadiumsFNB Stadium (Chiefs)
Orlando Stadium (Pirates)
Statistics
Most winsKazier Chiefs & Orlando Pirates (21)
Most player appearancesHappy Jele (236) (Orlando Pirates F.C.)
Top scorerPatrick Ntsoelengoe (19) (Kaizer Chiefs F.C.)
All-time seriesChiefs: 21
Draw: 19
Pirates: 21
Largest victoryPirates 5–1 Chiefs (1998)
Current win streak1 Win (Orlando Pirates)

The Soweto Derby is different to the Original Soweto Derby, which is contested between Pirates and Moroka Swallows.[2]

Based in Soweto, Johannesburg, the rivalry stems from the fact that Kaizer Chiefs was formed by a former Orlando Pirates star Kaizer Motaung. Motaung had left Orlando Pirates to go play professional soccer in the now defunct North American Soccer League for a team called the Atlanta Chiefs. Upon returning home, he found a lot of infighting among the hierarchy at Pirates. He decided to form a Kaizer XI, which initially played friendly matches with various clubs in South Africa and then this entity evolved to the Kaizer Chiefs.[3]

Overall record Edit

Team League Nedbank Cup Telkom bvbCup MTN 8 Total
Fixtures 53 17 5 10 85
Kaizer Chiefs 20 8 1 2 28
Orlando Pirates 12 6 1 6 25
Draw 24 3 3 32

Win percentage(%) Edit

Teams League Cup Total percentage(%)
Kaizer Chiefs 52.08% 34.34% 32.94%
Orlando Pirates 22.64% 40.62% 29.41%

All-time results Edit

League Edit

Kaizer Chiefs vs Orlando Pirates Orlando Pirates vs Kaizer Chiefs
Season Division Date Venue Score Attendance Date Venue Score Attendance
1996–97 Premier Soccer League 18 January 1997 FNB Stadium 0–1 10 May 1997 Orlando Stadium 1–1
1997–98 Premier Soccer League 22 November 1997 FNB Stadium 1–1 7 March 1998 Orlando Stadium 5–1
1998–99 Premier Soccer League 9 October 1998 FNB Stadium 2–2 13 February 1999 Orlando Stadium 1–2
1999–2000 Premier Soccer League 20 November 1999 Orlando Stadium 1-0 13 June 2000 FNB Stadium 2–2
2000–01 Premier Soccer League 29 November 2000 Orlando Stadium 1–1 9 June 2001 FNB Stadium 1–0
2001–02 Premier Soccer League 15 December 2001 FNB Stadium 0–3 4 May 2002 Orlando Stadium 1–1
2002–03 Premier Soccer League 7 December 2002 Orlando Stadium 1–1 14 March 2003 FNB Stadium 2–0
2003–04 Premier Soccer League 13 December 2003 FNB Stadium 1–0 1 May 2004 Orlando Stadium 1–0
2004–05 Premier Soccer League 29 October 2004 Orlando Stadium 2–1 29 April 2005 FNB Stadium 1–1
2005–06 Premier Soccer League 28 October 2005 FNB Stadium 2–0 9 May 2006 Orlando Stadium 0–1
2006–07 Premier Soccer League 9 December 2006 FNB Stadium 1–1 80,000 28 April 2007 Orlando Stadium 1–1 6,000
2007–08 Premier Soccer League 24 November 2007 Kings Park Stadium 2–2 50,000 10 May 2008 FNB Stadium 1–0 50,000
2008–09 Premier Soccer League 15 November 2008 0–2 60,000 2 May 2009 Orlando Stadium 2–1 62,000
2009–10 Premier Soccer League 31 October 2009 Loftus Versfeld Stadium 0–0 40,000 20 February 2010 Orlando Stadium 0–0 14,000
2010–11 Premier Soccer League 13 November 2010 FNB Stadium 1–3 74,875 26 February 2011 FNB Stadium 1–1 92,515
2011–12 Premier Soccer League 17 September 2011 2–0 25,000 17 March 2012 3–2 87,171
2012–13 Premier Soccer League 8 December 2012 0–0 84,000 9 March 2013 0–0 80,000
2013–14 Premier Soccer League 26 October 2013 1–1 80,000 15 March 2014 0–1 90,000
2014–15 Premier Soccer League 6 December 2014 0–2 71,282 7 March 2015 0–0 88,000
2015–16 Premier Soccer League 31 October 2015 1–3 90,000 30 January 2016 1–1 60,000
2016–17 Premier Soccer League 29 October 2016 0–0 60,000 4 March 2017 1–1 55,000
2017–18 Premier Soccer League 21 October 2017 0–0 75,000 3 March 2018 3–1 86,314
2018–19 Premier Soccer League 27 October 2018 2–1 82,000 9 February 2019 1–1 86,000
2019–20 Premier Soccer League 09 November 2019 3–2 88,000 29 February 2020 0–1 80,808
2020–21 Premier Soccer League 21 March 2021 1–0 0 30 January 2021 Orlando Stadium 2–1 0
2021-22 Premier Soccer League 06 November 2022 2-1 0 05 March 2022 1-2 0
2022-23 Premier Soccer League 23 January 2023 Orlando Stadium 0-1 29 October 2022 FNB Stadium 0-1 90,000

Cup results Edit

Season Competition Round Date Stadium Home team Result Away team Attendance Notes
1970–71 Life Challenge Cup Final ? FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 2 – 2 (aet) Kaizer Chiefs Kaizer Chiefs won 2 – 1 after replay
Final replay ? FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 2–1 Orlando Pirates
1971–72 MTN 8 Final ? FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 10–1 (aet) Kaizer Chiefs
1974–75 Life Challenge Cup Final ? FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 3–2 Kaizer Chiefs
Life Challenge Cup Final 1st leg ? FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 4–1 Orlando Pirates Kaizer Chiefs won 6–2 on aggregate
Final 2 ng leg ? FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 1–2 Kaizer Chiefs
1975–76 Benson & Hedges Cup Final ? FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 1–0 Orlando Pirates
1976–77 Benson & Hedges Cup Final ? FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 1–0 Orlando Pirates
1980–81 Nedbank Cup Final ? FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 1 – 1 (aet) Kaizer Chiefs Kaizer Chiefs won 3 – 1 after replay
Final replay ? FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 3 – 1 Orlando Pirates
1983–84 Nedbank Cup Final ? FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 1 – 0 Orlando Pirates
1987–88 Bob Save Super Bowl Final ? FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 1 – 0 Kaizer Chiefs
1996 Bob Save Super Bowl Semi-final ? ? Orlando Pirates 5 – 1 Kaizer Chiefs
1997–98 Bob Save Super Bowl 2nd round 27 March 1998 ? Kaizer Chiefs 0 – 1 Orlando Pirates
1998–99 Bob Save Super Bowl Semi-final 1st leg 31 October 1998 ? Kaizer Chiefs 3 – 1 Orlando Pirates Kaizer Chiefs won 3 – 2 on aggregate
Semi-final 2nd leg 14 November 1998 ? Orlando Pirates 1 – 0 Kaizer Chiefs
2001–02 MTN 8 Semi-final 25 August 2001 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 1 – 0 Orlando Pirates
2005–06 ABSA Cup Final 19 May 2006 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs * 0 – 0 Orlando Pirates Kaizer Chiefs won 5-3 on penalties
2009–10 Telkom Knockout Semi-final 5 April 2010 FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates * 0 – 0 Kaizer Chiefs Kaizer Chiefs won 3-0 on penalties
2010–11 MTN 8 Semi-final 1st leg 11 September 2010 FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 1 – 1 Kaizer Chiefs 75,000 Orlando Pirates won 2 – 1 on aggregate
Semi-final 2nd leg 26 September 2010 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 0 – 1 Orlando Pirates 69,760
Telkom Knockout Final 4 December 2010 FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates * 0 – 3 Kaizer Chiefs 90,000
2012-12 MTN 8 Final 10 September 2011 FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates * 1 – 0 (aet) Kaizer Chiefs 84,000
2012–13 MTN 8 Semi-final 1st leg 24 August 2013 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 0 – 1 Orlando Pirates 83,000 Orlando Pirates won 2 – 1 on aggregate
Semi-final 2nd leg 24 September 2013 Orlando Stadium Orlando Pirates 1 – 1 Kaizer Chiefs 40,000
2014–15 MTN 8 Final 20 September 2014 Moses Mabhida Stadium Orlando Pirates * 0 – 1 Kaizer Chiefs 50,000
2015–16 Telkom Knockout Semi-final 7 November 2015 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 0 – 0 Orlando Pirates Kaizer Chiefs won 6 – 5 on penalties
2015–16 Nedbank Cup Round 32 5 March 2016 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 0 – 2 Orlando Pirates
2018–19 Telkom Knockout Semi-final 24 November 2018 Moses Mabhida Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 1 – 2 Orlando Pirates
2019–20 Telkom Knockout Semi-final 24 November 2018 Moses Mabhida Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 2 – 2 Orlando Pirates Kaizer Chiefs won 4 – 2 on penalties
2020-21 2020 MTN 8 Semi-final 1st leg 31 October 2020 Orlando Stadium Orlando Pirates 3–0 Kaizer Chiefs 0 Orlando Pirates won 5-0 on aggregate
Semi-final 2nd leg 08 November 2020 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 0–2 Orlando Pirates 0
2022-23 Nedbank Cup Semi-final 6 May 2023 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 1 – 2 Orlando Pirates

* Played as a neutral game with one side designated as the 'home team'.

Honours Edit

Orlando Pirates Competition Kaizer Chiefs
Domestic
4 South African Premier Division (1996 - present) 4
8 Nedbank Cup 13
11 MTN 8 15
1 Telkom Knockout 13
1 National Soccer League (South Africa) (1985 to 1996) 3
4 National Professional Soccer League (South Africa) (1971 to 1984) 5
29 Aggregate 53
Continental
1 CAF Champions League 0
0 African Cup Winners' Cup (defunct) 1
1 CAF Super Cup 0
2 Aggregate 1
31 Total aggregate 54

Head-to-head ranking in the South African Premier Division (1996–2021) Edit

P. 97 98 99 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
4 4 4 4
5 5 5 5 5 5
6 6 6
7 7
8 8 8
9 9 9 9
10
11 11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
  • Total: Kaizer Chiefs with 13 higher finishes, Orlando Pirates with 12 higher finishes (as of the end of the 2020–21 season).
  • The biggest difference in positions for Kaizer Chiefs from Orlando Pirates is 7 places (2016–17season), The biggest difference in positions for Orlando Pirates from Kaizer Chiefs is 7 places (2018–19 season).

References Edit

  1. ^ . FIFA. Archived from the original on 12 November 2012. Retrieved 17 September 2011.
  2. ^ "Bucs, Birds clash to revive original Soweto derby spark". SowetanLIVE. Retrieved 4 September 2023.
  3. ^ "From Violence to Vuvuzelas: How The Soweto Derby Unified Fans". Goal.com. Retrieved 27 February 2021.

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adding inline citations Statements consisting only of original research should be removed August 2021 Learn how and when to remove this template message Learn how and when to remove this template message The Soweto Derby is a football rivalry between Premier Soccer League s Kaizer Chiefs and Orlando Pirates in South Africa It was first contested on 24 January 1970 1 Matches between the two rivals attract a large fanbase The rivalry is recognised as one of the biggest derbies in Africa Soweto DerbyAn Orlando Pirates fan and a Kaizer Chiefs fan before the Soweto derby Other names El Kasico LocationSoweto Johannesburg South AfricaTeamsKaizer Chiefs Orlando PiratesFirst meeting24 January 1970Latest meeting6 May 2023 Pirates 2 1 Chiefs Nedbank CupNext meetingTBAStadiumsFNB Stadium Chiefs Orlando Stadium Pirates StatisticsMost winsKazier Chiefs amp Orlando Pirates 21 Most player appearancesHappy Jele 236 Orlando Pirates F C Top scorerPatrick Ntsoelengoe 19 Kaizer Chiefs F C All time seriesChiefs 21 Draw 19 Pirates 21Largest victoryPirates 5 1 Chiefs 1998 Current win streak1 Win Orlando Pirates The Soweto Derby is different to the Original Soweto Derby which is contested between Pirates and Moroka Swallows 2 Based in Soweto Johannesburg the rivalry stems from the fact that Kaizer Chiefs was formed by a former Orlando Pirates star Kaizer Motaung Motaung had left Orlando Pirates to go play professional soccer in the now defunct North American Soccer League for a team called the Atlanta Chiefs Upon returning home he found a lot of infighting among the hierarchy at Pirates He decided to form a Kaizer XI which initially played friendly matches with various clubs in South Africa and then this entity evolved to the Kaizer Chiefs 3 Contents 1 Overall record 1 1 Win percentage 2 All time results 2 1 League 2 2 Cup results 2 3 Honours 2 4 Head to head ranking in the South African Premier Division 1996 2021 3 ReferencesOverall record EditTeam League Nedbank Cup Telkom bvbCup MTN 8 TotalFixtures 53 17 5 10 85Kaizer Chiefs 20 8 1 2 28Orlando Pirates 12 6 1 6 25Draw 24 3 3 32Win percentage Edit Teams League Cup Total percentage Kaizer Chiefs 52 08 34 34 32 94 Orlando Pirates 22 64 40 62 29 41 All time results EditLeague Edit Kaizer Chiefs vs Orlando Pirates Orlando Pirates vs Kaizer ChiefsSeason Division Date Venue Score Attendance Date Venue Score Attendance1996 97 Premier Soccer League 18 January 1997 FNB Stadium 0 1 10 May 1997 Orlando Stadium 1 11997 98 Premier Soccer League 22 November 1997 FNB Stadium 1 1 7 March 1998 Orlando Stadium 5 11998 99 Premier Soccer League 9 October 1998 FNB Stadium 2 2 13 February 1999 Orlando Stadium 1 21999 2000 Premier Soccer League 20 November 1999 Orlando Stadium 1 0 13 June 2000 FNB Stadium 2 22000 01 Premier Soccer League 29 November 2000 Orlando Stadium 1 1 9 June 2001 FNB Stadium 1 02001 02 Premier Soccer League 15 December 2001 FNB Stadium 0 3 4 May 2002 Orlando Stadium 1 12002 03 Premier Soccer League 7 December 2002 Orlando Stadium 1 1 14 March 2003 FNB Stadium 2 02003 04 Premier Soccer League 13 December 2003 FNB Stadium 1 0 1 May 2004 Orlando Stadium 1 02004 05 Premier Soccer League 29 October 2004 Orlando Stadium 2 1 29 April 2005 FNB Stadium 1 12005 06 Premier Soccer League 28 October 2005 FNB Stadium 2 0 9 May 2006 Orlando Stadium 0 12006 07 Premier Soccer League 9 December 2006 FNB Stadium 1 1 80 000 28 April 2007 Orlando Stadium 1 1 6 0002007 08 Premier Soccer League 24 November 2007 Kings Park Stadium 2 2 50 000 10 May 2008 FNB Stadium 1 0 50 0002008 09 Premier Soccer League 15 November 2008 0 2 60 000 2 May 2009 Orlando Stadium 2 1 62 0002009 10 Premier Soccer League 31 October 2009 Loftus Versfeld Stadium 0 0 40 000 20 February 2010 Orlando Stadium 0 0 14 0002010 11 Premier Soccer League 13 November 2010 FNB Stadium 1 3 74 875 26 February 2011 FNB Stadium 1 1 92 5152011 12 Premier Soccer League 17 September 2011 2 0 25 000 17 March 2012 3 2 87 1712012 13 Premier Soccer League 8 December 2012 0 0 84 000 9 March 2013 0 0 80 0002013 14 Premier Soccer League 26 October 2013 1 1 80 000 15 March 2014 0 1 90 0002014 15 Premier Soccer League 6 December 2014 0 2 71 282 7 March 2015 0 0 88 0002015 16 Premier Soccer League 31 October 2015 1 3 90 000 30 January 2016 1 1 60 0002016 17 Premier Soccer League 29 October 2016 0 0 60 000 4 March 2017 1 1 55 0002017 18 Premier Soccer League 21 October 2017 0 0 75 000 3 March 2018 3 1 86 3142018 19 Premier Soccer League 27 October 2018 2 1 82 000 9 February 2019 1 1 86 0002019 20 Premier Soccer League 09 November 2019 3 2 88 000 29 February 2020 0 1 80 8082020 21 Premier Soccer League 21 March 2021 1 0 0 30 January 2021 Orlando Stadium 2 1 02021 22 Premier Soccer League 06 November 2022 2 1 0 05 March 2022 1 2 02022 23 Premier Soccer League 23 January 2023 Orlando Stadium 0 1 29 October 2022 FNB Stadium 0 1 90 000Cup results Edit Season Competition Round Date Stadium Home team Result Away team Attendance Notes1970 71 Life Challenge Cup Final FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 2 2 aet Kaizer Chiefs Kaizer Chiefs won 2 1 after replayFinal replay FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 2 1 Orlando Pirates1971 72 MTN 8 Final FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 10 1 aet Kaizer Chiefs1974 75 Life Challenge Cup Final FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 3 2 Kaizer ChiefsLife Challenge Cup Final 1st leg FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 4 1 Orlando Pirates Kaizer Chiefs won 6 2 on aggregateFinal 2 ng leg FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 1 2 Kaizer Chiefs1975 76 Benson amp Hedges Cup Final FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 1 0 Orlando Pirates1976 77 Benson amp Hedges Cup Final FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 1 0 Orlando Pirates1980 81 Nedbank Cup Final FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 1 1 aet Kaizer Chiefs Kaizer Chiefs won 3 1 after replayFinal replay FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 3 1 Orlando Pirates1983 84 Nedbank Cup Final FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 1 0 Orlando Pirates1987 88 Bob Save Super Bowl Final FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 1 0 Kaizer Chiefs1996 Bob Save Super Bowl Semi final Orlando Pirates 5 1 Kaizer Chiefs1997 98 Bob Save Super Bowl 2nd round 27 March 1998 Kaizer Chiefs 0 1 Orlando Pirates1998 99 Bob Save Super Bowl Semi final 1st leg 31 October 1998 Kaizer Chiefs 3 1 Orlando Pirates Kaizer Chiefs won 3 2 on aggregateSemi final 2nd leg 14 November 1998 Orlando Pirates 1 0 Kaizer Chiefs2001 02 MTN 8 Semi final 25 August 2001 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 1 0 Orlando Pirates2005 06 ABSA Cup Final 19 May 2006 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 0 0 Orlando Pirates Kaizer Chiefs won 5 3 on penalties2009 10 Telkom Knockout Semi final 5 April 2010 FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 0 0 Kaizer Chiefs Kaizer Chiefs won 3 0 on penalties2010 11 MTN 8 Semi final 1st leg 11 September 2010 FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 1 1 Kaizer Chiefs 75 000 Orlando Pirates won 2 1 on aggregateSemi final 2nd leg 26 September 2010 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 0 1 Orlando Pirates 69 760Telkom Knockout Final 4 December 2010 FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 0 3 Kaizer Chiefs 90 0002012 12 MTN 8 Final 10 September 2011 FNB Stadium Orlando Pirates 1 0 aet Kaizer Chiefs 84 0002012 13 MTN 8 Semi final 1st leg 24 August 2013 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 0 1 Orlando Pirates 83 000 Orlando Pirates won 2 1 on aggregateSemi final 2nd leg 24 September 2013 Orlando Stadium Orlando Pirates 1 1 Kaizer Chiefs 40 0002014 15 MTN 8 Final 20 September 2014 Moses Mabhida Stadium Orlando Pirates 0 1 Kaizer Chiefs 50 0002015 16 Telkom Knockout Semi final 7 November 2015 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 0 0 Orlando Pirates Kaizer Chiefs won 6 5 on penalties2015 16 Nedbank Cup Round 32 5 March 2016 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 0 2 Orlando Pirates2018 19 Telkom Knockout Semi final 24 November 2018 Moses Mabhida Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 1 2 Orlando Pirates2019 20 Telkom Knockout Semi final 24 November 2018 Moses Mabhida Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 2 2 Orlando Pirates Kaizer Chiefs won 4 2 on penalties2020 21 2020 MTN 8 Semi final 1st leg 31 October 2020 Orlando Stadium Orlando Pirates 3 0 Kaizer Chiefs 0 Orlando Pirates won 5 0 on aggregateSemi final 2nd leg 08 November 2020 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 0 2 Orlando Pirates 02022 23 Nedbank Cup Semi final 6 May 2023 FNB Stadium Kaizer Chiefs 1 2 Orlando Pirates Played as a neutral game with one side designated as the home team Honours Edit Orlando Pirates Competition Kaizer ChiefsDomestic4 South African Premier Division 1996 present 48 Nedbank Cup 1311 MTN 8 151 Telkom Knockout 131 National Soccer League South Africa 1985 to 1996 34 National Professional Soccer League South Africa 1971 to 1984 529 Aggregate 53Continental1 CAF Champions League 00 African Cup Winners Cup defunct 11 CAF Super Cup 02 Aggregate 131 Total aggregate 54Head to head ranking in the South African Premier Division 1996 2021 Edit P 97 98 99 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 211 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 12 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 23 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 34 4 4 45 5 5 5 5 56 6 67 78 8 89 9 9 91011 1112131415161718 Total Kaizer Chiefs with 13 higher finishes Orlando Pirates with 12 higher finishes as of the end of the 2020 21 season The biggest difference in positions for Kaizer Chiefs from Orlando Pirates is 7 places 2016 17season The biggest difference in positions for Orlando Pirates from Kaizer Chiefs is 7 places 2018 19 season References Edit South Africa s derby goes global FIFA Archived from the original on 12 November 2012 Retrieved 17 September 2011 Bucs Birds clash to revive original Soweto derby spark SowetanLIVE Retrieved 4 September 2023 From Violence to Vuvuzelas How The Soweto Derby Unified Fans Goal com Retrieved 27 February 2021 Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Soweto derby amp oldid 1173783834, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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