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1908 Melbourne Carnival

The 1908 Melbourne Carnival was the inaugural Australian National Football Carnival, an Australian football interstate competition, held in Melbourne in August 1908. It was known at the time as the Jubilee Australasian Football Carnival because it was designed to commemorate 50 years of Australian football.

Jubilee Australasian Football Carnival
Newby's souvenir carnival programme
(Note the different shape of 1858 and 1908 footballs)
Tournament information
SportAustralian football
LocationMelbourne, Australia
Month playedAugust 1908
FormatRound Robin
Teams7
Final champion
SECTION A: Victoria
SECTION B: Tasmania
1911 →

It was the first time in which all Australian states and New Zealand had competed together in the sport.

The winning team was presented with a silk pennant; and each member of the winning team received a gold championship medal.[1]

Although the 29 August final between Victoria and Western Australia was played in front of something like 15,000 spectators, it is certain that the crowd would have been considerably larger if it had not also been the first day of the American Fleet's eight-day visit to Melbourne.[2]

Official opening Edit

 
Official carnival programme

The official opening was conducted by Sir Thomas Gibson-Carmichael, the Governor of Victoria, at 3:00 pm on Wednesday 19 August 1908, in the interval between the first and second matches of the carnival (the first match started at 1:15 pm, the second at 3:30 pm).

Prime Minister and former player Alfred Deakin delivered a stirring nationalist speech to open the carnival[3]

First Matches Edit

The crowd of 7,000+ was in an excited mood: in the first match, New Zealand had come back from a 26-point half-time deficit to win by a single point.

The seven participating teams, with each player in their team uniforms, lined up and formed a hollow square.

The official party, the Governor of Victoria, accompanied by his private secretary, Victor Albert Nelson Hood (1862–1929), Sir Thomas Bent, Premier of Victoria, H. C. A. Harrison, Australian Rules administrative pioneer (then 71 years old), Mr. Cornelius Michael "Con" Hickey (1866-1937), Fitzroy footballer in the (VFA 1887-1894), secretary of the Fitzroy Football Club (1893-1910), foundation member and first treasurer of the Victorian Football League, and the inaugural president of the Australian National Football Council (formed in 1906), Mr. E.L. "Ernie" Wilson, the first secretary of the Collingwood Football Club in the VFL, and secretary of the VFL from 1897-1929, and Mr. Albert E. Nash, president of the New South Wales Australian Football League, were each introduced to the captain of each team and shook hands.[4]

The ceremony was notable for the performance of "war cries" by both the New Zealand and Queensland teams; and, in the opinion of "Old Boy", despite not performing well on the football field, the Queensland "war cry" was the best of the two, in that its effort was "dramatic, descriptive, and interesting".[5] Although it is not clear (as it was in the newspaper accounts of the New Zealand team on other occasions) from any of the contemporary reports of the day's proceedings whether, on this occasion, the New Zealand "war cry" was specifically a haka or not, "Follower's" report in "The Age" strongly suggests that to be the case: "a feature of the [Governor's] inspection … was the Maori war cry, given with great zest by the New Zealand team, and equally stirring was the aboriginal battle cry of the Queenslanders".[6]

The second match, played immediately after the opening ceremony, was nowhere near as exciting: Tasmania beat Queensland by 140 points.

Teams Edit

Team photographs of all of the competing teams were published in the Melbourne Punch,[7] and the Melbourne Leader.[8]

New South Wales Edit

 
New South Wales team

The New South Wales team included A. Conlin, W. Scott, Bob Rahilly, J. Hunter, G. Colley, E. Gluyas, Bert Renfrey (Vice-Captain), and Algy Millhouse from the Barrier,[9] and G. Thomas, W. Maxfield, G. McConechy, Ralph Robertson (Captain), T. Vannan, C. Murray, J. Delaney, H. Welsh, A. Dartnell, J. O'Leary, C. Shipton, and F. Carrick from Sydney; A.E. Watson from Hay, O'Keefe from Narrandera, plus James Greer and W. Hanes (also Haines, Haynes) from Wagga.[10] During the carnival, the New South Wales team trained at the St Kilda Cricket Ground.[11]

New Zealand Edit

 
New Zealand team
 
New Zealand's Captain, Tom Wright

The selected team was: E. George, F.A. Lording, W. Monteith, J.G. Marshall, Tongue, H. Fletcher, J.J. Abfalter (Auckland), P.H. Elvidge, S.G. Darby, A. Swann (Waihi), M. Bonas, D. Patrick, E. Furness, A. McGrath, L.L. Paull (Wellington), George Dempster, H.L. West, T.J. Wright (captain), H. Wilkinson, A. Porter, A. Fisher, Paisley, F. Ross (Christchurch), with emergencies, Burns, Welch, and L.A. Breese from Auckland, and Grant, and T. Smith. During the carnival, the New Zealand team trained at the Richmond Cricket Ground and was coached by Richmond's Dick Condon.[12][13][14][15]

New Zealand's tour matches Edit

This was the only time in the history of Australian rules "interstate" football matches that a team from New Zealand participated. It was anticipated that, immediately following the carnival, and before returning to New Zealand, the New Zealand team would play matches in Adelaide, Ballarat, Bendigo, Geelong, Sydney, Brisbane, and Newcastle.[16]

The New Zealand team played a match, in Adelaide, on 1 September 1908 (Eight Hours Day), before the Governor, George Le Hunte,[17] on a very wet ground (in several places the water was inches deep). South Australia won the match 5.8 (38) to 3.10 (28). The match was not as one-sided as the final scores indicate: the score at quarter time was South Australia 4.5 (29) to New Zealand 0.1 (1). In the process of the day, the New Zealand team performed two hakas, one before the match commenced, the other before the second half began.[18]

All in all, the New Zealand team won six out of the eleven matches they played on their tour, including the carnival matches against New South Wales and Queensland, and were described in the Melbourne press as "the surprise packet"; and, due to the fact that only two of their matches were played on dry grounds, they also became known as the "wet weather birds".[19]

Queensland Edit

 
Queensland team

The selected team was:[20] J. Hay, M.S. "Merce" Hicks, E. Miller, A. M'Gregor and T. Morris (City), V. "Vic" Lowndes, M. O'Dwyer, J. Greenwood, and Jack Keir (Locomotives), W. MacDonald, G. Paget, H. Heidemann, and J. M'Cormack (Ipswich), L. Perkins, and H. Parker (Valley), L. Kelly, A. "Jack" Bolton, and H. Hopkins (Wynnum), Ralph McKellar (captain),[21] H. Coates, and A. Atkinson (Brisbane), and Lieutenant B. Watts (Thursday island). Emergencies: M. Cooper (Valley), A. Tipper (City), J. Hickey (West Moreton), and E. "Ernie" Watson (Ipswich). It seems that B. "Bas" Bolton was a later addition to the team. During the carnival, the Queensland team was coached by Jack Worrall, and trained at the Carlton Cricket Ground.[22]

South Australia Edit

 
South Australian team

The selected team was; Charles George Gordon Gwynne, Ernie Johns, Jack Tredrea, Jack Chamberlain, Richard Townsend, Sinclair Dickson, Alfred Roy Le Messurier, Edward M. Beare, A.C. Bennett, O.H. Hyman. H.W.D. Stoddart, C. Adcock, T. McKenzie. A. Ewers, A.E. Hewitt, Stewart Geddes (vice captain), George Wallace, Jack Mack, Tom Leahy, James Tierney, John Albert "Alby" Bahr (captain), Jack Woollard. During the carnival, the South Australian team trained at the East Melbourne Cricket Ground.[23]

The South Australian team that was defeated by Victoria 10.15 (75) to 2.14 (26) on 26 August 1908 was: Back, Ewers, Hyman, and Woollard; half-back, Stoddart, Beare, and McKenzie; centre, Hewitt, Tredrea, and Bennett; half-forward, Bahr, Townsend, and Chamberlain; forward, Dickson, Johns, and Gwynne; ruck, Tierney and Leahy; rover, Wallace.[24]

Tasmania Edit

 
Tasmanian team

The captain of Tasmania was Bruce Carter.[25] The squad originally selected was: from the South: Roy Bailey (half back), P. Orpwood (back), Walter Burrell (following and back), L. Bridges (wing), Weller Arnold (centre), C. Ward (centre and half-back), E. RusseIl (wing), W. Lee (forward and rover), T. Abel (follower), C. Webb (follower and back), W. Forster (rover and half-forward); from the North: Algy Tynan (full back), A.J. "Barney" Badcock (half-back), W. Ride (back), B.L. Thomson (back), Charlie Searl (wing), Hastings Woolley (half-back and follower),[26]Joe Littler (forward), Viv Valentine (forward); from North-West Coast: B. Carter (centre), W. Rutter (follower), T. Mahoney (follower); from West Coast: A. Trotter (centre and forward), George McLeod (forward and follower). Emergencies: K. Appleby (North-West), first back and follower; Albert Pannam (North West), first forward and second follower; L. Norman (North), rover and third forward; A. Tucker (South) second back and wing; B. Filgate (North-West), full back and wing.[27] During the carnival, the Tasmanian team, coached by Jack Gardiner and Dick Gibson,[28] trained at the South Melbourne Cricket Ground.[29]

Victoria Edit

 
Victorian team

The Victorian team that defeated South Australia 10.15 (75) to 2.14 (26) on 26 August 1908 was:[30]

Back, Joe Pearce (Melbourne), Robert Nash (Collingwood), and Phonse Wood (South Melbourne); half-back, Hugh Purse (Melbourne), Bill Busbridge (Essendon), and Bill Luff Sr. (Richmond); centre, Barclay Bailes (Fitzroy), Rod McGregor (Carlton), and George Bruce (Carlton); half-forward, Paddy Shea (Essendon), Dave McNamara (St Kilda), and Harvey Kelly (Carlton); forward, Wally Johnson (Fitzroy), Dick Lee (Collingwood), and Henry Young (Geelong); ruck, Herbert Milne (Fitzroy) and Bert Franks (South Melbourne); rover, Alick Ogilvie (University).[24]

Before the first match was played, it was noted that six of the possible "Victorian" players, Barclay Bailes, Bert Franks, Bill Goddard (South Melbourne), Harvey Kelly, Paddy Shea, and Phonse Wood had all played their first senior football in Western Australia.[31]

Western Australia Edit

 
West Australian team

The selected team was: from metropolitan district: Jim Everett, Ronald Glen,[32] Leonard Edwards, James Doig, Harry Sharpe, Thomas McNamara, Sam Gravenall, George Wyatt,[33] Henry Thompson, Frank 'Diver' Dunne, Dick Sweetman, Billy Orr; from goldfields: William Trewhella, Phil Matson, William "Nipper" Truscott, Alex Robinson, Walter Smith, George Tyson, William Cook, George Renwick, William Metheral, J. "Snob" Polglaise, Charles Tyson, Joe O'Dea.[34][35] During the carnival, the Western Australian team trained at the Fitzroy Cricket Ground.[36]

Playing uniforms Edit

In competition, the teams' uniforms were:

  • New South Wales:Royal blue with a red waratah on breast; white knickers; royal blue hose.
  • New Zealand: All black with gold fern leaf; black knickers; black hose,
  • Queensland: Dark maroon with white 'Q' monogram; white knickers; maroon hose with white tops.
  • South Australia: Turquoise with brown band; white knickers; turquoise blue hose.
  • Tasmania: Green, rose and primrose braces, map of Tasmania on breast with football in centre; white knickers; green hose.
  • Victoria: Dark blue with white letter 'V' ; white hose; dark blue hose.
  • Western Australia: Dark green jersey with gold swan on breast; white knickers; dark green hose with white tops.

When not playing, the members of each team wore plain straw hats that clearly displayed their team's distinctive colours on their hat-bands:[1][37]

  • New South Wales: Light royal blue band, displaying a red waratah emblem.
  • New Zealand: Black band, displaying a gold fern leaf emblem.
  • Queensland: Dark maroon band, displaying a white letter "Q".
  • South Australia: Brown with turquoise band, displaying a football with the letters "S.A.".
  • Tasmania: Myrtle green band, displaying a small map of Tasmania in primrose, with a rose football in the centre;
  • Victoria: Oxford blue band, displaying a white letter 'V'.
  • Western Australia: dark green band, displaying a gold swan.

Results Edit

The program for the carnival was arranged as follows:[38]

  • The seven teams were broken up into two sections:
    • The stronger Section A comprised Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia
    • The weaker Section B comprised Tasmania, New South Wales, New Zealand and Queensland
  • Ten preliminary matches were played. These games were:
    • A full round-robin amongst the four section B teams
    • Two matches within Section A: South Australia vs Western Australia; and Victoria vs the loser of the first game
    • Two matches between a Section A team and a Section B team: Victoria vs New Zealand; and New South Wales vs the winner of the South Australia vs Western Australia game
  • From there, finals were played:
    • The third placed team from Section A played the first placed team from Section B for third and fourth place
    • The first placed team from Section A played the second placed team from Section A for first and second place
    • If two undefeated teams remained, a Grand Final was to be played between them to decide the championship[39]

All of the matches were played at the Melbourne Cricket Ground.

Preliminary matches Edit

Day One

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date Attendance
 Section B    New Zealand   9.9 (63)   New South Wales   8.14 (62)  Wednesday 19 August 1908 7,000
 Section B    Tasmania   22.22 (154)   Queensland   2.2 (14)  Wednesday 19 August 1908

Day Two

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date
 Section A/B    Victoria   25.21 (171)   New Zealand   5.10 (40)  Friday 21 August 1908

Day Three

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date
 Section B    Tasmania   8.14 (62)   New South Wales   4.11 (35)  Saturday 22 August 1908
 Section A    Western Australia   8.11 (59)   South Australia   8.5 (53)  Saturday 22 August 1908

Day Four

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date
 Section B    New Zealand   6.12 (48)   Queensland   4.11 (35)  Monday 24 August 1908

Day Five

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date
 Section A/B    Western Australia   17.12 (114)   New South Wales   12.3 (75)  Tuesday 25 August 1908

Day Six

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date
 Section A    Victoria   10.15 (75)   South Australia   2.14 (26)  Wednesday 26 August 1908
 Section B    Tasmania   11.18 (84)   New Zealand   1.12 (18)  Wednesday 26 August 1908[40]

Day Seven

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date
 Section B    New South Wales   13.15 (93)   Queensland   8.11 (59)  Thursday 27 August 1908

Preliminary round ladders Edit

Section A[41]

Team P W L D F A Pts
1 Victoria 2 2 0 0 246 66 8
2 Western Australia 2 2 0 0 173 128 8
3 South Australia 2 0 2 0 119 305 0

Section B[41]

Team P W L D F A Pts
1 Tasmania 3 3 0 0 300 67 12
2 New Zealand 4 2 2 0 169 352 8
3 New South Wales 4 1 3 0 265 298 4
4 Queensland 3 0 3 0 108 295 0

Finals Edit

Day Eight

Section Winning team score Losing team score Date Attendance
 Section A/B    South Australia   16.20 (116)   Tasmania   7.7 (49)  Saturday 29 August 1908
 Section A    Victoria   13.22 (100)   Western Australia   6.8 (44)  Saturday 29 August 1908 15,000

Because Tasmania was beaten by South Australia, Victoria was the only remaining undefeated team. Therefore, it was crowned the champions without the need for a Grand Final.

Gameplay gallery Edit

Team gallery Edit

Best players Edit

  • New South Wales: Colley, Robertson, Rahilly, Gluyas, Maxfield
  • New Zealand: Darby, Elvidge, Wilkins, Wright, George
  • Queensland: Coates, Watts, Kelly, Paget, Hicks
  • South Australia: Tredrea, Tierney, Le Mesurier, Gwynne, Chamberlain, Townsend
  • Tasmania: Carter,[42] Lee, Mahoney, Bridges, Webb, Littler, Arnold
  • Victoria: Shea, Pearce, Busbridge, Luff, McGregor, Bailes, McNamara
  • Western Australia: Gravenall, Dunne, Matson, Metherell, Orr, Truscott

See also Edit

Footnotes Edit

  1. ^ a b Australian Rules: Australasian Carnival, The Sydney Mail, (Wednesday, 12 August 1908), p.443.
  2. ^ Umpire, "Football Jubilee: Australasian Championship: Won by Victoria", The Argus, (Monday, 31 August 1908), p.5.
  3. ^ Judd, Barry; Hallinan, Christopher (1 December 2019). "Indigeneity and the Disruption of Anglo-Australian Nationalism in Australian Football". Review of Nationalities. 9 (1): 101–110. doi:10.2478/pn-2019-0008. eISSN 2543-9391. S2CID 215770426.
  4. ^ Football Carnival: Opened in Melbourne, The Advertiser, (Thursday, 20 August 1908), p.7.
  5. ^ Old Boy, "Football Jubilee: Australasian Championships: A Fine Display", The Argus, (Thursday, 20 August 1908), p.7.
  6. ^ Follower, "Football Jubilee Carnival: A Successful Opening", The Age, (Thursday, 20 August 1908), p.11.
  7. ^ The Football Carnival — Australasian Championships — The Competing Teams, Punch, (Thursday, 27 August 1908), p.17.
  8. ^ Jubilee of Australian Football — The Inter-State Teams, The Leader, (Saturday, 29 August, 1908), p.29.
  9. ^ Sporting News: Football: Melbourne Football Carnival, The Advertiser, (Tuesday, 18 August 1908), p.9.
  10. ^ Football, The (Sydney) Evening News, (Friday, 31 July 1908), p.8.
  11. ^ Australasian Football Jubilee: The Competing Teams: New South Wales, The Mercury, (Friday, 14 August 1908), p.8.
  12. ^ Football "Social", The (Wellington) Evening Post, Vol.76, No.5, (6 July 1908), p.2.
  13. ^ The Jubilee Carnival: New Zealand Representative Team, The Mercury, (Monday, 3 August 1908),p.7.
  14. ^ Australasian Football Jubilee, The Mercury, (Thursday, 11 August 1908),p.8.
  15. ^ The Jubilee Carnival: New Zealand Team: Arrival in Melbourne, The (Launceston) Examiner, (Thursday, 13 August 1908), p.3.
  16. ^ New Zealand, The Advertiser, (Monday, 24 February 1908), p.7.
  17. ^ Tuesday's Football Matches, The Register, (Wednesday, 2 September 1908), p.4.)
  18. ^ Tuesday's Football Matches, The Register, (Wednesday, 2 September 1908), p.4; Football: South Australia v. New Zealand: Home Team Successful, The Register, (Wednesday, 2 September 1908), p.8.
  19. ^ Returned Athletes, "The Surprise Packet", The (Wellington) Evening Post, Vol.76, No.73, (23 September 1908), p.7.
  20. ^ Interstate Australian Football: Queensland Team for Melbourne, The Brisbane Courier, (Monday, 20 July 1908), p.6.
  21. ^ A Fine Queensland Legacy, AFL Queensland: News, 11 June 2010.
  22. ^ Australasian Football Jubilee: The Competing Teams: Queensland, (Friday, 14 August 1908), p.8.
  23. ^ Australasian Football Jubilee: The Competing Teams: South Australia, The Mercury, (Friday, 14 August 1908), p.8.
  24. ^ a b South Australia Defeated, The Register, (Thursday, 27 August 1908), p.8.
  25. ^ The Captain Interviewed, The Examiner, (Thursday 3 September 1908), p.6.
  26. ^ Although selected in the team (Football, The Mercury, (Monday, 27 July 1908), p7.), Woolley was unable to obtain leave of absence (The State Team, The (Launceston) Daily Telegraph, (Tuesday, 11 August 1908), p.7) and, therefore, could not travel to Melbourne, and his place in the team was taken by Pannam (The Carnival Jubilee, The Mercury, (Wednesday, 12 August 1908), p.8).
  27. ^ Football: Australasian Football Carnival: The Tasmanian Selection, The Mercury, (Thursday, 27 July 1908),p.7.
  28. ^ 'Kickeroo', "Football: A Busy Time: Jubilee Celebrations", The (Melbourne) Herald, (Friday, 21 August 1908), p.2.
  29. ^ Australasian Football Jubilee: The Competing Teams: Tasmania, The Mercury, (Friday, 14 August 1908), p.8.
  30. ^ Rohan, J.M., "Was First Carnival Side The Best Ever?: Herculean Team of Capable Men: Picked Irrespective of Clubs", The Sporting Globe), (Saturday, 12 May 1934), p.7.
  31. ^ Football: The Australian Game: Western Australian Inter-State Team, The West Australian, (Tuesday, 18 August 1908), p.7.
  32. ^ Ronald Grant Glen, at Redlegs Museum.
  33. ^ Red and Whites: Review of South Fremantle History, The Fremantle Advocate, (Thursday, 5 May 1932), p.2.
  34. ^ Western Australian Team, The Sydney Morning Herald, (Friday 17 July 1908), p.10.
  35. ^ Wyatt and Glenn, in the selected team, were unable to travel to Melbourne, and were replaced by S.F. Jeffrey (West Perth) and Harold Crase (Perth) respectively; Football: The Australian Game: The Jubilee Team, The West Australian, (Monday, 20 July 1908), p.6.
  36. ^ Australasian Football Jubilee: The Competing Teams: Western Australia, The Mercury, (Friday, 14 August 1908), p.8.
  37. ^ Football: The Australian Game, The West Australian, (Saturday 22 August 1908), p.13.
  38. ^ "The Jubilee Carnival". The Register. Adelaide, SA. 19 August 1908. p. 6.
  39. ^ "Jubilee Football Matches". Kalgoorlie Miner. Kalgoorlie, WA. 29 August 1908. p. 12.
  40. ^ JUBILEE FOOTBALL. The (Launceston) Examiner, (1908, August 27), p. 5
  41. ^ a b "The Football Carnival". The Register. Adelaide, SA. 28 August 1908. p. 6.
  42. ^ "FOOTBALL". The Examiner (Tasmania). Vol. LXVII, no. 219. Tasmania, Australia. 12 September 1908. p. 4 (DAILY). Retrieved 25 February 2018 – via National Library of Australia.

References Edit

  • Newby, H.D., A Profusely Illustrated Souvenir and Programme of the Australasian Football Jubilee Carnival, 1908, J.L. Anderson & Sons, (Melbourne), 1908.
  • Truscott, N, "Past Champions: Victoria's Roll of Honour", The West Australian, (Saturday, 14 August 1937), p.21.

External links Edit

  • Newby's souvenir programme for the Australasian Football Jubilee Carnival, 1908 (74 pages).

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The 1908 Melbourne Carnival was the inaugural Australian National Football Carnival an Australian football interstate competition held in Melbourne in August 1908 It was known at the time as the Jubilee Australasian Football Carnival because it was designed to commemorate 50 years of Australian football Jubilee Australasian Football CarnivalNewby s souvenir carnival programme Note the different shape of 1858 and 1908 footballs Tournament informationSportAustralian footballLocationMelbourne AustraliaMonth playedAugust 1908FormatRound RobinTeams7Final championSECTION A VictoriaSECTION B Tasmania1911 It was the first time in which all Australian states and New Zealand had competed together in the sport The winning team was presented with a silk pennant and each member of the winning team received a gold championship medal 1 Although the 29 August final between Victoria and Western Australia was played in front of something like 15 000 spectators it is certain that the crowd would have been considerably larger if it had not also been the first day of the American Fleet s eight day visit to Melbourne 2 Contents 1 Official opening 1 1 First Matches 2 Teams 2 1 New South Wales 2 2 New Zealand 2 2 1 New Zealand s tour matches 2 3 Queensland 2 4 South Australia 2 5 Tasmania 2 6 Victoria 2 7 Western Australia 3 Playing uniforms 4 Results 4 1 Preliminary matches 4 2 Preliminary round ladders 4 3 Finals 5 Gameplay gallery 6 Team gallery 7 Best players 8 See also 9 Footnotes 10 References 11 External linksOfficial opening Edit nbsp Official carnival programmeThe official opening was conducted by Sir Thomas Gibson Carmichael the Governor of Victoria at 3 00 pm on Wednesday 19 August 1908 in the interval between the first and second matches of the carnival the first match started at 1 15 pm the second at 3 30 pm Prime Minister and former player Alfred Deakin delivered a stirring nationalist speech to open the carnival 3 First Matches Edit The crowd of 7 000 was in an excited mood in the first match New Zealand had come back from a 26 point half time deficit to win by a single point The seven participating teams with each player in their team uniforms lined up and formed a hollow square The official party the Governor of Victoria accompanied by his private secretary Victor Albert Nelson Hood 1862 1929 Sir Thomas Bent Premier of Victoria H C A Harrison Australian Rules administrative pioneer then 71 years old Mr Cornelius Michael Con Hickey 1866 1937 Fitzroy footballer in the VFA 1887 1894 secretary of the Fitzroy Football Club 1893 1910 foundation member and first treasurer of the Victorian Football League and the inaugural president of the Australian National Football Council formed in 1906 Mr E L Ernie Wilson the first secretary of the Collingwood Football Club in the VFL and secretary of the VFL from 1897 1929 and Mr Albert E Nash president of the New South Wales Australian Football League were each introduced to the captain of each team and shook hands 4 The ceremony was notable for the performance of war cries by both the New Zealand and Queensland teams and in the opinion of Old Boy despite not performing well on the football field the Queensland war cry was the best of the two in that its effort was dramatic descriptive and interesting 5 Although it is not clear as it was in the newspaper accounts of the New Zealand team on other occasions from any of the contemporary reports of the day s proceedings whether on this occasion the New Zealand war cry was specifically a haka or not Follower s report in The Age strongly suggests that to be the case a feature of the Governor s inspection was the Maori war cry given with great zest by the New Zealand team and equally stirring was the aboriginal battle cry of the Queenslanders 6 The second match played immediately after the opening ceremony was nowhere near as exciting Tasmania beat Queensland by 140 points Teams EditTeam photographs of all of the competing teams were published in the Melbourne Punch 7 and the Melbourne Leader 8 New South Wales Edit nbsp New South Wales teamThe New South Wales team included A Conlin W Scott Bob Rahilly J Hunter G Colley E Gluyas Bert Renfrey Vice Captain and Algy Millhouse from the Barrier 9 and G Thomas W Maxfield G McConechy Ralph Robertson Captain T Vannan C Murray J Delaney H Welsh A Dartnell J O Leary C Shipton and F Carrick from Sydney A E Watson from Hay O Keefe from Narrandera plus James Greer and W Hanes also Haines Haynes from Wagga 10 During the carnival the New South Wales team trained at the St Kilda Cricket Ground 11 New Zealand Edit nbsp New Zealand team nbsp New Zealand s Captain Tom WrightThe selected team was E George F A Lording W Monteith J G Marshall Tongue H Fletcher J J Abfalter Auckland P H Elvidge S G Darby A Swann Waihi M Bonas D Patrick E Furness A McGrath L L Paull Wellington George Dempster H L West T J Wright captain H Wilkinson A Porter A Fisher Paisley F Ross Christchurch with emergencies Burns Welch and L A Breese from Auckland and Grant and T Smith During the carnival the New Zealand team trained at the Richmond Cricket Ground and was coached by Richmond s Dick Condon 12 13 14 15 New Zealand s tour matches Edit This was the only time in the history of Australian rules interstate football matches that a team from New Zealand participated It was anticipated that immediately following the carnival and before returning to New Zealand the New Zealand team would play matches in Adelaide Ballarat Bendigo Geelong Sydney Brisbane and Newcastle 16 The New Zealand team played a match in Adelaide on 1 September 1908 Eight Hours Day before the Governor George Le Hunte 17 on a very wet ground in several places the water was inches deep South Australia won the match 5 8 38 to 3 10 28 The match was not as one sided as the final scores indicate the score at quarter time was South Australia 4 5 29 to New Zealand 0 1 1 In the process of the day the New Zealand team performed two hakas one before the match commenced the other before the second half began 18 All in all the New Zealand team won six out of the eleven matches they played on their tour including the carnival matches against New South Wales and Queensland and were described in the Melbourne press as the surprise packet and due to the fact that only two of their matches were played on dry grounds they also became known as the wet weather birds 19 Queensland Edit nbsp Queensland teamThe selected team was 20 J Hay M S Merce Hicks E Miller A M Gregor and T Morris City V Vic Lowndes M O Dwyer J Greenwood and Jack Keir Locomotives W MacDonald G Paget H Heidemann and J M Cormack Ipswich L Perkins and H Parker Valley L Kelly A Jack Bolton and H Hopkins Wynnum Ralph McKellar captain 21 H Coates and A Atkinson Brisbane and Lieutenant B Watts Thursday island Emergencies M Cooper Valley A Tipper City J Hickey West Moreton and E Ernie Watson Ipswich It seems that B Bas Bolton was a later addition to the team During the carnival the Queensland team was coached by Jack Worrall and trained at the Carlton Cricket Ground 22 South Australia Edit nbsp South Australian teamThe selected team was Charles George Gordon Gwynne Ernie Johns Jack Tredrea Jack Chamberlain Richard Townsend Sinclair Dickson Alfred Roy Le Messurier Edward M Beare A C Bennett O H Hyman H W D Stoddart C Adcock T McKenzie A Ewers A E Hewitt Stewart Geddes vice captain George Wallace Jack Mack Tom Leahy James Tierney John Albert Alby Bahr captain Jack Woollard During the carnival the South Australian team trained at the East Melbourne Cricket Ground 23 The South Australian team that was defeated by Victoria 10 15 75 to 2 14 26 on 26 August 1908 was Back Ewers Hyman and Woollard half back Stoddart Beare and McKenzie centre Hewitt Tredrea and Bennett half forward Bahr Townsend and Chamberlain forward Dickson Johns and Gwynne ruck Tierney and Leahy rover Wallace 24 Tasmania Edit nbsp Tasmanian teamThe captain of Tasmania was Bruce Carter 25 The squad originally selected was from the South Roy Bailey half back P Orpwood back Walter Burrell following and back L Bridges wing Weller Arnold centre C Ward centre and half back E RusseIl wing W Lee forward and rover T Abel follower C Webb follower and back W Forster rover and half forward from the North Algy Tynan full back A J Barney Badcock half back W Ride back B L Thomson back Charlie Searl wing Hastings Woolley half back and follower 26 Joe Littler forward Viv Valentine forward from North West Coast B Carter centre W Rutter follower T Mahoney follower from West Coast A Trotter centre and forward George McLeod forward and follower Emergencies K Appleby North West first back and follower Albert Pannam North West first forward and second follower L Norman North rover and third forward A Tucker South second back and wing B Filgate North West full back and wing 27 During the carnival the Tasmanian team coached by Jack Gardiner and Dick Gibson 28 trained at the South Melbourne Cricket Ground 29 Victoria Edit nbsp Victorian teamThe Victorian team that defeated South Australia 10 15 75 to 2 14 26 on 26 August 1908 was 30 Back Joe Pearce Melbourne Robert Nash Collingwood and Phonse Wood South Melbourne half back Hugh Purse Melbourne Bill Busbridge Essendon and Bill Luff Sr Richmond centre Barclay Bailes Fitzroy Rod McGregor Carlton and George Bruce Carlton half forward Paddy Shea Essendon Dave McNamara St Kilda and Harvey Kelly Carlton forward Wally Johnson Fitzroy Dick Lee Collingwood and Henry Young Geelong ruck Herbert Milne Fitzroy and Bert Franks South Melbourne rover Alick Ogilvie University 24 Before the first match was played it was noted that six of the possible Victorian players Barclay Bailes Bert Franks Bill Goddard South Melbourne Harvey Kelly Paddy Shea and Phonse Wood had all played their first senior football in Western Australia 31 Western Australia Edit nbsp West Australian teamThe selected team was from metropolitan district Jim Everett Ronald Glen 32 Leonard Edwards James Doig Harry Sharpe Thomas McNamara Sam Gravenall George Wyatt 33 Henry Thompson Frank Diver Dunne Dick Sweetman Billy Orr from goldfields William Trewhella Phil Matson William Nipper Truscott Alex Robinson Walter Smith George Tyson William Cook George Renwick William Metheral J Snob Polglaise Charles Tyson Joe O Dea 34 35 During the carnival the Western Australian team trained at the Fitzroy Cricket Ground 36 Playing uniforms EditIn competition the teams uniforms were New South Wales Royal blue with a red waratah on breast white knickers royal blue hose New Zealand All black with gold fern leaf black knickers black hose Queensland Dark maroon with white Q monogram white knickers maroon hose with white tops South Australia Turquoise with brown band white knickers turquoise blue hose Tasmania Green rose and primrose braces map of Tasmania on breast with football in centre white knickers green hose Victoria Dark blue with white letter V white hose dark blue hose Western Australia Dark green jersey with gold swan on breast white knickers dark green hose with white tops When not playing the members of each team wore plain straw hats that clearly displayed their team s distinctive colours on their hat bands 1 37 New South Wales Light royal blue band displaying a red waratah emblem New Zealand Black band displaying a gold fern leaf emblem Queensland Dark maroon band displaying a white letter Q South Australia Brown with turquoise band displaying a football with the letters S A Tasmania Myrtle green band displaying a small map of Tasmania in primrose with a rose football in the centre Victoria Oxford blue band displaying a white letter V Western Australia dark green band displaying a gold swan Results EditThe program for the carnival was arranged as follows 38 The seven teams were broken up into two sections The stronger Section A comprised Victoria South Australia and Western Australia The weaker Section B comprised Tasmania New South Wales New Zealand and Queensland Ten preliminary matches were played These games were A full round robin amongst the four section B teams Two matches within Section A South Australia vs Western Australia and Victoria vs the loser of the first game Two matches between a Section A team and a Section B team Victoria vs New Zealand and New South Wales vs the winner of the South Australia vs Western Australia game From there finals were played The third placed team from Section A played the first placed team from Section B for third and fourth place The first placed team from Section A played the second placed team from Section A for first and second place If two undefeated teams remained a Grand Final was to be played between them to decide the championship 39 All of the matches were played at the Melbourne Cricket Ground Preliminary matches Edit Day One Section Winning team score Losing team score Date Attendance Section B New Zealand 9 9 63 New South Wales 8 14 62 Wednesday 19 August 1908 7 000 Section B Tasmania 22 22 154 Queensland 2 2 14 Wednesday 19 August 1908Day Two Section Winning team score Losing team score Date Section A B Victoria 25 21 171 New Zealand 5 10 40 Friday 21 August 1908Day Three Section Winning team score Losing team score Date Section B Tasmania 8 14 62 New South Wales 4 11 35 Saturday 22 August 1908 Section A Western Australia 8 11 59 South Australia 8 5 53 Saturday 22 August 1908Day Four Section Winning team score Losing team score Date Section B New Zealand 6 12 48 Queensland 4 11 35 Monday 24 August 1908Day Five Section Winning team score Losing team score Date Section A B Western Australia 17 12 114 New South Wales 12 3 75 Tuesday 25 August 1908Day Six Section Winning team score Losing team score Date Section A Victoria 10 15 75 South Australia 2 14 26 Wednesday 26 August 1908 Section B Tasmania 11 18 84 New Zealand 1 12 18 Wednesday 26 August 1908 40 Day Seven Section Winning team score Losing team score Date Section B New South Wales 13 15 93 Queensland 8 11 59 Thursday 27 August 1908Preliminary round ladders Edit Section A 41 Team P W L D F A Pts1 Victoria 2 2 0 0 246 66 82 Western Australia 2 2 0 0 173 128 83 South Australia 2 0 2 0 119 305 0Section B 41 Team P W L D F A Pts1 Tasmania 3 3 0 0 300 67 122 New Zealand 4 2 2 0 169 352 83 New South Wales 4 1 3 0 265 298 44 Queensland 3 0 3 0 108 295 0Finals Edit Day Eight Section Winning team score Losing team score Date Attendance Section A B South Australia 16 20 116 Tasmania 7 7 49 Saturday 29 August 1908 Section A Victoria 13 22 100 Western Australia 6 8 44 Saturday 29 August 1908 15 000Because Tasmania was beaten by South Australia Victoria was the only remaining undefeated team Therefore it was crowned the champions without the need for a Grand Final Gameplay gallery Edit nbsp New Zealander high marking in the team s 1908 defeat of New South Wales nbsp Queensland vs Tasmania marking contestTeam gallery Edit nbsp New South Wales team nbsp Queensland team nbsp South Australian team nbsp Tasmanian team nbsp Victorian team nbsp West Australian team nbsp New Zealand teamBest players EditNew South Wales Colley Robertson Rahilly Gluyas Maxfield New Zealand Darby Elvidge Wilkins Wright George Queensland Coates Watts Kelly Paget Hicks South Australia Tredrea Tierney Le Mesurier Gwynne Chamberlain Townsend Tasmania Carter 42 Lee Mahoney Bridges Webb Littler Arnold Victoria Shea Pearce Busbridge Luff McGregor Bailes McNamara Western Australia Gravenall Dunne Matson Metherell Orr TruscottSee also Edit1908 VFL season 1908 SAFL season 1908 WAFL seasonFootnotes Edit a b Australian Rules Australasian Carnival The Sydney Mail Wednesday 12 August 1908 p 443 Umpire Football Jubilee Australasian Championship Won by Victoria The Argus Monday 31 August 1908 p 5 Judd Barry Hallinan Christopher 1 December 2019 Indigeneity and the Disruption of Anglo Australian Nationalism in Australian Football Review of Nationalities 9 1 101 110 doi 10 2478 pn 2019 0008 eISSN 2543 9391 S2CID 215770426 Football Carnival Opened in Melbourne The Advertiser Thursday 20 August 1908 p 7 Old Boy Football Jubilee Australasian Championships A Fine Display The Argus Thursday 20 August 1908 p 7 Follower Football Jubilee Carnival A Successful Opening The Age Thursday 20 August 1908 p 11 The Football Carnival Australasian Championships The Competing Teams Punch Thursday 27 August 1908 p 17 Jubilee of Australian Football The Inter State Teams The Leader Saturday 29 August 1908 p 29 Sporting News Football Melbourne Football Carnival The Advertiser Tuesday 18 August 1908 p 9 Football The Sydney Evening News Friday 31 July 1908 p 8 Australasian Football Jubilee The Competing Teams New South Wales The Mercury Friday 14 August 1908 p 8 Football Social The Wellington Evening Post Vol 76 No 5 6 July 1908 p 2 The Jubilee Carnival New Zealand Representative Team The Mercury Monday 3 August 1908 p 7 Australasian Football Jubilee The Mercury Thursday 11 August 1908 p 8 The Jubilee Carnival New Zealand Team Arrival in Melbourne The Launceston Examiner Thursday 13 August 1908 p 3 New Zealand The Advertiser Monday 24 February 1908 p 7 Tuesday s Football Matches The Register Wednesday 2 September 1908 p 4 Tuesday s Football Matches The Register Wednesday 2 September 1908 p 4 Football South Australia v New Zealand Home Team Successful The Register Wednesday 2 September 1908 p 8 Returned Athletes The Surprise Packet The Wellington Evening Post Vol 76 No 73 23 September 1908 p 7 Interstate Australian Football Queensland Team for Melbourne The Brisbane Courier Monday 20 July 1908 p 6 A Fine Queensland Legacy AFL Queensland News 11 June 2010 Australasian Football Jubilee The Competing Teams Queensland Friday 14 August 1908 p 8 Australasian Football Jubilee The Competing Teams South Australia The Mercury Friday 14 August 1908 p 8 a b South Australia Defeated The Register Thursday 27 August 1908 p 8 The Captain Interviewed The Examiner Thursday 3 September 1908 p 6 Although selected in the team Football The Mercury Monday 27 July 1908 p7 Woolley was unable to obtain leave of absence The State Team The Launceston Daily Telegraph Tuesday 11 August 1908 p 7 and therefore could not travel to Melbourne and his place in the team was taken by Pannam The Carnival Jubilee The Mercury Wednesday 12 August 1908 p 8 Football Australasian Football Carnival The Tasmanian Selection The Mercury Thursday 27 July 1908 p 7 Kickeroo Football A Busy Time Jubilee Celebrations The Melbourne Herald Friday 21 August 1908 p 2 Australasian Football Jubilee The Competing Teams Tasmania The Mercury Friday 14 August 1908 p 8 Rohan J M Was First Carnival Side The Best Ever Herculean Team of Capable Men Picked Irrespective of Clubs The Sporting Globe Saturday 12 May 1934 p 7 Football The Australian Game Western Australian Inter State Team The West Australian Tuesday 18 August 1908 p 7 Ronald Grant Glen at Redlegs Museum Red and Whites Review of South Fremantle History The Fremantle Advocate Thursday 5 May 1932 p 2 Western Australian Team The Sydney Morning Herald Friday 17 July 1908 p 10 Wyatt and Glenn in the selected team were unable to travel to Melbourne and were replaced by S F Jeffrey West Perth and Harold Crase Perth respectively Football The Australian Game The Jubilee Team The West Australian Monday 20 July 1908 p 6 Australasian Football Jubilee The Competing Teams Western Australia The Mercury Friday 14 August 1908 p 8 Football The Australian Game The West Australian Saturday 22 August 1908 p 13 The Jubilee Carnival The Register Adelaide SA 19 August 1908 p 6 Jubilee Football Matches Kalgoorlie Miner Kalgoorlie WA 29 August 1908 p 12 JUBILEE FOOTBALL The Launceston Examiner 1908 August 27 p 5 a b The Football Carnival The Register Adelaide SA 28 August 1908 p 6 FOOTBALL The Examiner Tasmania Vol LXVII no 219 Tasmania Australia 12 September 1908 p 4 DAILY Retrieved 25 February 2018 via National Library of Australia References EditNewby H D A Profusely Illustrated Souvenir and Programme of the Australasian Football Jubilee Carnival 1908 J L Anderson amp Sons Melbourne 1908 Truscott N Past Champions Victoria s Roll of Honour The West Australian Saturday 14 August 1937 p 21 External links Edit1908 Melbourne Carnival page on Fullpointsfooty Newby s souvenir programme for the Australasian Football Jubilee Carnival 1908 74 pages Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title 1908 Melbourne Carnival amp oldid 1140686216, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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