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John Sutton, 3rd Baron Dudley

John Sutton, 3rd Baron Dudley (c. 1494 –1553), commonly known as Lord Quondam, was an English nobleman.


John Sutton
Baron Dudley
PredecessorSir Edward Sutton, 2nd Baron Dudley
SuccessorSir Edward Sutton, 4th Baron Dudley
Born1494
Dudley Castle, Worcestershire
Died1553(1553-00-00) (aged 58–59)
Middlesex
Buried(1553-09-21)21 September 1553
St. Margaret's, Westminster
Wars and battlesWar of the League of Cambrai
Noble familySutton
Spouse(s)Lady Cecily Grey
Issue8, including Edward, Henry
ParentsEdward Sutton, 2nd Baron Dudley
Cicely Willoughby

Early life Edit

John Sutton was born in 1494, at Dudley Castle, Worcestershire, the eldest son and heir of Sir Edward Sutton, 2nd Baron Dudley and his wife Cicely (née Willoughby) Sutton. Cecily was a daughter of Sir William Willoughby and Joan Strangeways, and granddaughter of Katherine Neville, Duchess of Norfolk.[1]

John Sutton had several younger brothers: Thomas, William, Arthur, Geoffery and George. Among his sisters were Hon. Eleanor Sutton (wife of Charles Somerset, 1st Earl of Worcester, and Leonard Grey, 1st Viscount Grane), Hon. Jane Sutton (wife of Sir Thomas Fiennes and mother of Thomas Fiennes, 9th Baron Dacre), and Hon. Margaret Sutton (wife of John Grey, 2nd Baron Grey of Powis).[1]

Career Edit

Sutton was a soldier and was with Henry VIII in France in 1513,[2] fighting in War of the Holy League with Spain against France. He was knighted on 13 October that year.

He succeeded his father, Edward Sutton, 2nd Baron Dudley, as Baron Dudley in 1532. He was already very much in debt at this time,[3] he and his father having already borrowed money as early as 1512,[4] and immediately began to sell his patrimony, including half of Powis Castle. His father had already sold most of the Sutton interest in the barony of Malpas in 1521, as well as Northfield in 1531.[4][5] Sutton sold the rest to Sir Rowland Hill in 1537. The barony of Malpas had been held by the Sutton family since about 1270, when Isabel Patrick married Richard de Sutton.[6] He sold the manor of Oxley in Staffordshire to James Levison in 1533.[7]

In 1532, immediately after his succession as Baron Dudley, Sutton also borrowed ₤2000 against his estates from his cousin, the Earl of Warwick and future Duke of Northumberland John Dudley, with a £400 yearly repayment. Sutton wrote to Thomas Cromwell, then serving as a member of the King's Privy Council, that year asking him to use his influence with the King to persuade him to pay the ₤2000 in exchange for the ₤180 per year rent for the manor of Sedgley for 20 years. Sutton wrote again to Cromwell in 1533 asking him to pay the £400 yearly repayment. This was apparently unsuccessful and Sutton sold the manor and castle of Dudley to his cousin in 1535. It appears Cromwell lent Sutton £1000 some time before 1538-9[3]

Sutton acquired the derogatory nickname "Lord Quondam" ('Lord Has-been' or 'Lord Formerly') after allowing his estate, including the castle of Dudley, to fall into the possession of his cousin.

There is much evidence in James Gairdner's Letters and Papers of the Reign of Henry VIII to suggest that Sutton's cousin, John Dudley, and Cromwell between them colluded to entangle Lord Dudley before the fact, and did not simply take advantage of him afterwards, as suggested by Dugdale's sources.[8] Cromwell had long been friends with Cecily Grey and her family, having served as her father's advisor in 1523, and bought out Baron Dudley's lands to help save her family from ruin.

Sutton's wife, Lady Cecily, Baroness Dudley, wrote to the Lord Privy Seal (Cromwell) on 24 February 1538, describing the effect of her family's loss of income:

"The cause of my writing unto you is, desiring you to be good lord unto me; it is so, as you know very well, that by the means of my lord, my husband, I and all mine are utterly undone, unless it be the better provided by the Grace of God, and likewise that it may please the King's highness to take pity of me and mine. . . The truth is, I have little above twenty pound a year, (which I have by my lady my mother,) to find me and one of my daughters with a woman and a man to wait upon me; and surely, unless the good prioress of Nuneaton did give me meat and drink of free cost, to me and all mine that here remains with me, I could not tell what shift to make. Over and besides that, whensoever any of my children comes hither to see me, they be welcome unto the prioress as long as they list to tarry, horsemeat and man's meat, and cost them nothing, with a piece of gold or two in their purses at their departure."[9]

Northumberland resided for many years at Dudley Castle and added new and magnificent structures to the old fortress.[10] In 1675, the historian, William Dugdale, wrote of Sutton's sale of Dudley Castle to his cousin:

"It is reported by credible tradition of this John Lord Dudley, that being a man of weak understanding, whereby he had exposed himself to some wants, and so became entangled in the usurer’s bonds, John Dudley, then Viscount Lisle and Earl of Warwick (afterwards Duke of Northumberland), thirsting after Dudley Castle, the chief seat of the family, made those money merchants his instruments to work him out of it, which by some mortgage being at length effected, this poor lord became exposed to the charity of his friends for a subsistence, and spending the remainder of his life in visits amongst them, was commonly called the Lord Quondam."[11]

Lord Dudley was never summoned to Parliament.[12]

Personal life Edit

By 30 October 1501, he was betrothed to Lady Cecily Grey (c.1497-1554), a daughter of Thomas Grey, 1st Marquess of Dorset, by Cecily Bonville, his wife, suo jure Baroness Harington and Baroness Bonville.[1] Lady Cecily was the grand-daughter of the former Queen, Elizabeth Woodville. They subsequently married and Lord Dudley and Lady Cecily were the parents of at least nine children, several of whom were directly involved on both sides in the conflicts and turmoil surrounding the English Reformation:

After losing Dudley Castle in 1537, Sutton, who retained the title Baron Dudley, moved to his city residence at Tothill Street in Westminster, which his father had been hiring since 1522.[4] He died in Middlesex and was buried on 18 September 1553 in St Margaret's, Westminster, London; Cecily, Baroness Dudley, was also buried there on 28 April 1554.[14] Accounts of his funeral were given by the diarist Henry Machyn:

"Sir John Dudley was buried at Westminster, Sept. 21st 1553, the backside of St. Margaret's. His crest a blue lion's head standing upon a crown of gold"[15]

And a transcript of a contemporary account published by John Strype in his Memorials:

"Sir John Dudley, baron of Dudley, happening to die at Westminster, his obsequies were celebrated on the 21st of September, honourably; but with the odd, popish ceremonies; that is to say, priests and clerks going before and singing in Latin. Then a priest wearing a cope, then a clerk, having the holy water-sprinkle in hand. After, a mourner bearing this lord's standard. After him, another bearing his great banner of arms, gold, and silver; another bearing his helmet, mantle and crest, a blue lion's head, standing upon a crown of gold. After, another mourner, bearing his target and another his sword. Next came Mr. Somerset, the herald, with his coat armour of gold and silver. And then the corse, covered with cloth of gold to the ground, and four of his men, bearing him, his arms hanging upon the cloth of gold; and twelve men, of his servants, carrying twelve staff-torches burning, to the church. In the quire was a horse made of timber, covered with black and arms up the black. And after, came the mourners, making a great company. After the dirge began, the herald came to the choir door, and prayed for his soul by his style. And so the dirge-song began in Latin and all the lessons. And then the herald prayed for a soul-mass. And so the mass was sung in Latin. And after, this noblemen's helmet, coat and target were offered. And, after all ended, the standard and banner of arms were offered, and so the company repaired to the house whence they set out. Then followed the ringing of bells and a great dole."[16]

His cousin and nemesis John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland was executed on 22 August the same year, 1553, after plotting to install Lady Jane Grey on the English throne. After Northumberland's execution, Dudley Castle was forfeited to the crown, and in 1555 was restored by Queen Mary to Lord Dudley's eldest son, Edward Sutton, 4th Baron Dudley and his wife, Catherine Brydges.[1]

References Edit

  1. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume IV, page 481.
  2. ^ "Dudley, John de" . Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900 – via Wikisource.
  3. ^ a b A History of the County of Worcester: Volume 3. London: Victoria County History. 1913. pp. 90–150.
  4. ^ a b c Dudley, Dean (1887). History of the Dudley Family: Number II. Wakefield, Massachussetts: Dean Dudley. pp. 127–128.
  5. ^ Adlard, George (1862). The Sutton-Dudleys of England and the Dudleys of Massachusetts in New England. Soho Square, London: John Russell Smith. p. 13.
  6. ^ Dudley 1886, p. 29.
  7. ^ Twamley, Charles (1867). History of Dudley Castle and Priory. Soho Square, London: John Russell Smith. p. 25. Retrieved 12 August 2023.
  8. ^ Gairdner, James, ed. (1893). Letters and Papers of the Reign of Henry VIII. Vol. 13:2.
  9. ^ Adlard 1862, p. 28.
  10. ^ Adlard 1862, p. 14.
  11. ^ Dugdale, William (1675). The baronage of England, or, An historical account of the lives and most memorable actions of our English nobility... London. p. 216. Retrieved 11 August 2023.
  12. ^ Twamley 1867, p. 26.
  13. ^ a b Twamley 1867, p. 28.
  14. ^ Mosley, Charles, editor. Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes. Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003, volume 1, page 1192.
  15. ^ Dudley, Dean (1886). History of the Dudley Family: Number I. Wakefield, Massachussetts: Dean Dudley. p. 33.
  16. ^ Strype, John (1822). Ecclesiastical memorials; relating chiefly to religion, and the reformation of it, and the emergencies of the Church of England, under King Henry VIII. King Edward VI. and Queen Mary the First. Oxford: Clarendon. p. 51. Retrieved 11 August 2023.
Peerage of England
Preceded by Baron Dudley
1532–1553
Succeeded by

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John Sutton 3rd Baron Dudley c 1494 1553 commonly known as Lord Quondam was an English nobleman The Right HonourableJohn SuttonBaron DudleyPredecessorSir Edward Sutton 2nd Baron DudleySuccessorSir Edward Sutton 4th Baron DudleyBorn1494Dudley Castle WorcestershireDied1553 1553 00 00 aged 58 59 MiddlesexBuried 1553 09 21 21 September 1553St Margaret s WestminsterWars and battlesWar of the League of CambraiNoble familySuttonSpouse s Lady Cecily GreyIssue8 including Edward HenryParentsEdward Sutton 2nd Baron DudleyCicely Willoughby Contents 1 Early life 2 Career 3 Personal life 4 ReferencesEarly life EditJohn Sutton was born in 1494 at Dudley Castle Worcestershire the eldest son and heir of Sir Edward Sutton 2nd Baron Dudley and his wife Cicely nee Willoughby Sutton Cecily was a daughter of Sir William Willoughby and Joan Strangeways and granddaughter of Katherine Neville Duchess of Norfolk 1 John Sutton had several younger brothers Thomas William Arthur Geoffery and George Among his sisters were Hon Eleanor Sutton wife of Charles Somerset 1st Earl of Worcester and Leonard Grey 1st Viscount Grane Hon Jane Sutton wife of Sir Thomas Fiennes and mother of Thomas Fiennes 9th Baron Dacre and Hon Margaret Sutton wife of John Grey 2nd Baron Grey of Powis 1 Career EditSutton was a soldier and was with Henry VIII in France in 1513 2 fighting in War of the Holy League with Spain against France He was knighted on 13 October that year He succeeded his father Edward Sutton 2nd Baron Dudley as Baron Dudley in 1532 He was already very much in debt at this time 3 he and his father having already borrowed money as early as 1512 4 and immediately began to sell his patrimony including half of Powis Castle His father had already sold most of the Sutton interest in the barony of Malpas in 1521 as well as Northfield in 1531 4 5 Sutton sold the rest to Sir Rowland Hill in 1537 The barony of Malpas had been held by the Sutton family since about 1270 when Isabel Patrick married Richard de Sutton 6 He sold the manor of Oxley in Staffordshire to James Levison in 1533 7 In 1532 immediately after his succession as Baron Dudley Sutton also borrowed 2000 against his estates from his cousin the Earl of Warwick and future Duke of Northumberland John Dudley with a 400 yearly repayment Sutton wrote to Thomas Cromwell then serving as a member of the King s Privy Council that year asking him to use his influence with the King to persuade him to pay the 2000 in exchange for the 180 per year rent for the manor of Sedgley for 20 years Sutton wrote again to Cromwell in 1533 asking him to pay the 400 yearly repayment This was apparently unsuccessful and Sutton sold the manor and castle of Dudley to his cousin in 1535 It appears Cromwell lent Sutton 1000 some time before 1538 9 3 nbsp Look up quondam in Wiktionary the free dictionary Sutton acquired the derogatory nickname Lord Quondam Lord Has been or Lord Formerly after allowing his estate including the castle of Dudley to fall into the possession of his cousin There is much evidence in James Gairdner s Letters and Papers of the Reign of Henry VIII to suggest that Sutton s cousin John Dudley and Cromwell between them colluded to entangle Lord Dudley before the fact and did not simply take advantage of him afterwards as suggested by Dugdale s sources 8 Cromwell had long been friends with Cecily Grey and her family having served as her father s advisor in 1523 and bought out Baron Dudley s lands to help save her family from ruin Sutton s wife Lady Cecily Baroness Dudley wrote to the Lord Privy Seal Cromwell on 24 February 1538 describing the effect of her family s loss of income The cause of my writing unto you is desiring you to be good lord unto me it is so as you know very well that by the means of my lord my husband I and all mine are utterly undone unless it be the better provided by the Grace of God and likewise that it may please the King s highness to take pity of me and mine The truth is I have little above twenty pound a year which I have by my lady my mother to find me and one of my daughters with a woman and a man to wait upon me and surely unless the good prioress of Nuneaton did give me meat and drink of free cost to me and all mine that here remains with me I could not tell what shift to make Over and besides that whensoever any of my children comes hither to see me they be welcome unto the prioress as long as they list to tarry horsemeat and man s meat and cost them nothing with a piece of gold or two in their purses at their departure 9 Northumberland resided for many years at Dudley Castle and added new and magnificent structures to the old fortress 10 In 1675 the historian William Dugdale wrote of Sutton s sale of Dudley Castle to his cousin It is reported by credible tradition of this John Lord Dudley that being a man of weak understanding whereby he had exposed himself to some wants and so became entangled in the usurer s bonds John Dudley then Viscount Lisle and Earl of Warwick afterwards Duke of Northumberland thirsting after Dudley Castle the chief seat of the family made those money merchants his instruments to work him out of it which by some mortgage being at length effected this poor lord became exposed to the charity of his friends for a subsistence and spending the remainder of his life in visits amongst them was commonly called the Lord Quondam 11 Lord Dudley was never summoned to Parliament 12 Personal life EditBy 30 October 1501 he was betrothed to Lady Cecily Grey c 1497 1554 a daughter of Thomas Grey 1st Marquess of Dorset by Cecily Bonville his wife suo jure Baroness Harington and Baroness Bonville 1 Lady Cecily was the grand daughter of the former Queen Elizabeth Woodville They subsequently married and Lord Dudley and Lady Cecily were the parents of at least nine children several of whom were directly involved on both sides in the conflicts and turmoil surrounding the English Reformation Edward Sutton 4th Baron Dudley c 1515 1586 who married one of Queen Mary I s Gentlewomen of the Privy Chamber Catherine Brydges the daughter of John Brydges 1st Baron Chandos in 1556 After her death in 1566 he married Lady Jane Stanley a daughter of Edward Stanley 3rd Earl of Derby in 1567 After her death he married Mary Howard the daughter of William Howard 1st Baron Howard in 1571 1 Hon Sir Henry Sutton Dudley 1517 1568 a diplomat who was a conspirator of the Tudor period against Queen Mary he married Anne Ashton daughter of Sir Christopher Ashton and step daughter of Lady Catherine Gordon 1 Sir Christopher also plotted against Queen Mary 13 Hon George Sutton a soldier at Calais 1 who plotted against Queen Elizabeth I 13 Hon Maud Sutton who married Ralph Josceline 1 Hon Margaret Sutton who married William Guibon of Watlington Norfolk 1 Hon Thomas Sutton 1539 1574 who married and had issue 1 Hon Dorothy Sutton 1 Hon Elizabeth Sutton 1 Hon Robert Sutton 1 After losing Dudley Castle in 1537 Sutton who retained the title Baron Dudley moved to his city residence at Tothill Street in Westminster which his father had been hiring since 1522 4 He died in Middlesex and was buried on 18 September 1553 in St Margaret s Westminster London Cecily Baroness Dudley was also buried there on 28 April 1554 14 Accounts of his funeral were given by the diarist Henry Machyn Sir John Dudley was buried at Westminster Sept 21st 1553 the backside of St Margaret s His crest a blue lion s head standing upon a crown of gold 15 And a transcript of a contemporary account published by John Strype in his Memorials Sir John Dudley baron of Dudley happening to die at Westminster his obsequies were celebrated on the 21st of September honourably but with the odd popish ceremonies that is to say priests and clerks going before and singing in Latin Then a priest wearing a cope then a clerk having the holy water sprinkle in hand After a mourner bearing this lord s standard After him another bearing his great banner of arms gold and silver another bearing his helmet mantle and crest a blue lion s head standing upon a crown of gold After another mourner bearing his target and another his sword Next came Mr Somerset the herald with his coat armour of gold and silver And then the corse covered with cloth of gold to the ground and four of his men bearing him his arms hanging upon the cloth of gold and twelve men of his servants carrying twelve staff torches burning to the church In the quire was a horse made of timber covered with black and arms up the black And after came the mourners making a great company After the dirge began the herald came to the choir door and prayed for his soul by his style And so the dirge song began in Latin and all the lessons And then the herald prayed for a soul mass And so the mass was sung in Latin And after this noblemen s helmet coat and target were offered And after all ended the standard and banner of arms were offered and so the company repaired to the house whence they set out Then followed the ringing of bells and a great dole 16 His cousin and nemesis John Dudley Duke of Northumberland was executed on 22 August the same year 1553 after plotting to install Lady Jane Grey on the English throne After Northumberland s execution Dudley Castle was forfeited to the crown and in 1555 was restored by Queen Mary to Lord Dudley s eldest son Edward Sutton 4th Baron Dudley and his wife Catherine Brydges 1 References Edit a b c d e f g h i j k l m G E Cokayne with Vicary Gibbs H A Doubleday Geoffrey H White Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden editors The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom Extant Extinct or Dormant new ed 13 volumes in 14 1910 1959 reprint in 6 volumes Gloucester U K Alan Sutton Publishing 2000 volume IV page 481 Dudley John de Dictionary of National Biography 1885 1900 via Wikisource a b A History of the County of Worcester Volume 3 London Victoria County History 1913 pp 90 150 a b c Dudley Dean 1887 History of the Dudley Family Number II Wakefield Massachussetts Dean Dudley pp 127 128 Adlard George 1862 The Sutton Dudleys of England and the Dudleys of Massachusetts in New England Soho Square London John Russell Smith p 13 Dudley 1886 p 29 Twamley Charles 1867 History of Dudley Castle and Priory Soho Square London John Russell Smith p 25 Retrieved 12 August 2023 Gairdner James ed 1893 Letters and Papers of the Reign of Henry VIII Vol 13 2 Adlard 1862 p 28 Adlard 1862 p 14 Dugdale William 1675 The baronage of England or An historical account of the lives and most memorable actions of our English nobility London p 216 Retrieved 11 August 2023 Twamley 1867 p 26 a b Twamley 1867 p 28 Mosley Charles editor Burke s Peerage Baronetage amp Knightage 107th edition 3 volumes Wilmington Delaware U S A Burke s Peerage Genealogical Books Ltd 2003 volume 1 page 1192 Dudley Dean 1886 History of the Dudley Family Number I Wakefield Massachussetts Dean Dudley p 33 Strype John 1822 Ecclesiastical memorials relating chiefly to religion and the reformation of it and the emergencies of the Church of England under King Henry VIII King Edward VI and Queen Mary the First Oxford Clarendon p 51 Retrieved 11 August 2023 Peerage of EnglandPreceded byEdward Sutton Baron Dudley1532 1553 Succeeded byEdward Sutton Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title John Sutton 3rd Baron Dudley amp oldid 1174553159, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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