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Great Northern P-2

The Great Northern P-2 was a class of 28 4-8-2 "Mountain" type steam locomotives built by the Baldwin Locomotive Works in 1923 and operated by the Great Northern Railway until the late 1950s.

Great Northern P-2 class
GN 2517 with the Empire Builder on the Stone Arch Bridge, Minneapolis, c. 1929.
Type and origin
Power typeSteam
BuilderBaldwin Locomotive Works
Serial number57000-57002, 57084-57085, 57182-57190, 57256-57258, 57339, 57012, 57253, 57341-57347
Build dateSeptember–October 1923
Total produced28
Specifications
Configuration:
 • Whyte4-8-2
 • UIC2′D2′ h1
Gauge4 ft 8+12 in (1,435 mm) standard gauge
Leading dia.33 in (838 mm)
Driver dia.73 in (1,854 mm)
Trailing dia.45 in (1,143 mm)
Tender wheels33 in (838 mm)
Wheelbase83.04 ft (25,311 mm)
Length102 ft 3+78 in (31.19 m)
Height15 ft 9+78 in (4.82 m)
Axle load66,250 lb (30,050 kilograms; 30.05 metric tons)
Adhesive weight265,000 lb (120,000 kilograms; 120 metric tons)
Loco weight388,700 lb (176,300 kilograms; 176.3 metric tons)
Tender weight305,950 lb (138,780 kilograms; 138.78 metric tons)
Total weight694,650 lb (315,090 kilograms; 315.09 metric tons)
Tender typeVanderbilt
Fuel typeFuel oil
Fuel capacity5,800 US gal (22,000 L; 4,800 imp gal) oil
Water cap.15,000 US gal (57,000 L; 12,000 imp gal)
Firebox:
 • Grate area88 sq ft (8.2 m2)
Boiler94 in (2,400 mm)
Boiler pressure210 lbf/in2 (1.45 MPa) (as built 200 lbf/in2 (1.38 MPa))
Heating surface:
 • Firebox400 sq ft (37 m2)
CylindersTwo
Cylinder size29 in × 28 in (737 mm × 711 mm)
Performance figures
Maximum speed50 mph (80 km/h) (limited)
Tractive effort57,580 lbf (256.13 kN)
(as built 54,838 lbf (243.9 kN))
69,780 lbf (310,400 N) with booster
Factor of adh.4.13 (as built 4.34)
Career
OperatorsGreat Northern
ClassP-2
Numbers2500–2527
Retired1955-1958
PreservedTwo (Nos. 2507 and 2523)
DispositionGreat Northern 2507 on display in Wishram, Washington, Great Northern 2523 on display in Willmar, Minnesota, remainder scrapped

The locomotives were built as passenger locomotives and the class had the honor of pulling the first Empire Builder train.

Today, two P-2s survive, No. 2507 is on display in Wishram, WA and No. 2523 is on display in Willmar, MN.

History edit

 
GN 2523 on display in Willmar, MN

Design edit

Built as passenger locomotives in 1923, they were used to haul passenger trains throughout the Great Northern. They were built to speed up passenger trains on the mainline and have replaced the earlier P-1 Class of "Mountains" of 1914, as they were deemed too slow for passenger service. While most Great Northern steam locomotives had a Belpaire firebox, the P-2s had a radial stay firebox. The first 18 were delivered as oil burners and the last 10 were delivered as coal burners.[1] In service, they were limited to 50 mph, but managed up to 4,800 miles a month and were rated at 10-12 heavyweight passenger cars up the 1.8% Walton Hill at 18 mph. Helper service is provided up the 1.65% grade outside of the St. Paul Union Depot if trains consisted of 10 or more cars.[2] Later in their service life, their boiler pressure was increased from 200 psi to 210 psi, increasing their tractive effort from 54,838 to 57,580 lbs. About half of the class received roller bearings. The P-2s were deemed as excellent passenger locomotives.[3]

Revenue service edit

The locomotives pulled passenger trains such as the Empire Builder and Oriental Limited and was the first to pull the former. While their performance in passenger service was excellent, they were replaced by the S-2 Class of Northerns in Empire Builder service, regulating them to other passenger trains and freight trains. As the Great Northern dieselized, retirement of the P-2s began in April 1955 and by April 1958, all have been retired.[3][4]

Accidents and incidents edit

  • No. 2507, while pulling train #27, the Fast Mail, hit a landslide near Picnic Point, south of Mukilteo, Washington in the pre-dawn hours of February 18, 1948. The engineer and fireman survived, but were both injured when the slide rolled the engine, tender and a baggage car off the track and went over the rock sea wall into Puget Sound.[5] The locomotive was eventually repaired and returned to service.

Preservation edit

Two P-2s survived into preservation.

  • Great Northern 2507 was retired in December 1957, eventually sold to the Spokane, Portland and Seattle for display at Maryhill, WA and dedicated on September 3, 1966. It was later moved to Pasco, WA for restoration, but it was unsuccessful. The locomotive was moved again in 2003 to the depot in Wishram, WA, where it resides.[6]
  • Great Northern 2523 was retired in April 1958 and donated to the city of Willmar, MN on October 7, 1965. It is currently displayed at the Kandiyohi County Historical Society.[6]

Roster edit

Number Baldwin serial number Date built Disposition Notes
2500 57000 September 1923 Sold for scrap May 9, 1955.
2501 57001 September 1923 Retired April 1955.
2502 57002 September 1923 Sold for scrap April 19, 1956.
2503 57084 October 1923 Sold for scrap May 9, 1955.
2504 57085 October 1923 Sold for scrap May 9, 1955.
2505 57182 October 1923 Retired December 1957. Received booster that added 12,200 lbs of tractive effort in the late 1940s.
2506 57183 October 1923 Sold for scrap October 7, 1955. Received booster that added 12,200 lbs of tractive effort in the late 1940s.
2507 57184 October 1923 Retired December 1957, sold to the Spokane, Portland and Seattle Railway. Moved to Pasco, Washington for restoration attempt. It was unsuccessful and moved to Wishram, Washington in July 2003 where it still resides.
2508 57185 October 1923 Sold for scrap October 7, 1955.
2509 57186 October 1923 Sold for scrap October 7, 1955.
2510 57187 October 1923 Retired December 1957.
2511 57188 October 1923 Retired December 1957.
2512 57189 October 1923 Sold for scrap October 7, 1955.
2513 57190 October 1923 Retired April 1958.
2514 57256 October 1923 Retired March 1958.
2515 57257 October 1923 Sold for scrap October 7, 1955.
2516 57258 October 1923 Sold for scrap October 7, 1955.
2517 57339 October 1923 Sold for scrap April 19, 1956.
2518 57012 October 1923 Scrapped May 9, 1955.
2519 57012 October 1923 Sold for scrap April 19, 1956.
2520 57340 October 1923 Retired December 1957.
2521 57341 October 1923 Retired December 1957. Last GN steam locomotive to run out of Seattle.[7]
2522 57342 October 1923 Sold for scrap August 16, 1956.
2523 57343 October 1923 Retired April 1958, donated to the city of Willmar, Minnesota on October 7, 1965, currently on display at the Kandiyohi County Historical Society in Willmar, MN.
2524 57344 October 1923 Retired April 1958.
2525 57345 October 1923 Retired December 1957.
2526 57346 October 1923 Sold for scrap May 9, 1955.
2527 57347 October 1923 Sold for scrap April 19, 1956.

See also edit

References edit

  1. ^ "The Wood Burner Engine, "William Crooks"". The Pittsburgh Press. 7 November 1923. p. 40.
  2. ^ "Baldwins on GN".
  3. ^ a b "Great Northern 4-8-2 "Mountain" Locomotives in the USA". steamlocomotive.com.
  4. ^ "Great Northern Empire - then and Now".
  5. ^ http://www.gn-npjointarchive.org/_layouts/15/start.aspx#/Lists/GN_Will_Photos/AllItems.aspx
  6. ^ a b "Great Northern Empire - Then and Now". www.greatnorthernempire.net.
  7. ^ "GNCascadeDivision - 2521fromApril1958LocomotiveEngineersJournal".
  • Keyes, Norman C. Jr.; Middleton, Kenneth R. (Autumn 1980). "The Great Northern Railway Company: All-Time Locomotive Roster, 1861–1970". Railroad History. 143 (143). Boston, Mass.: Railway and Locomotive Historical Society: 110. ISSN 0090-7847. JSTOR 43523930.

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Driver dia 73 in 1 854 mm Trailing dia 45 in 1 143 mm Tender wheels33 in 838 mm Wheelbase83 04 ft 25 311 mm Length102 ft 3 7 8 in 31 19 m Height15 ft 9 7 8 in 4 82 m Axle load66 250 lb 30 050 kilograms 30 05 metric tons Adhesive weight265 000 lb 120 000 kilograms 120 metric tons Loco weight388 700 lb 176 300 kilograms 176 3 metric tons Tender weight305 950 lb 138 780 kilograms 138 78 metric tons Total weight694 650 lb 315 090 kilograms 315 09 metric tons Tender typeVanderbiltFuel typeFuel oilFuel capacity5 800 US gal 22 000 L 4 800 imp gal oilWater cap 15 000 US gal 57 000 L 12 000 imp gal Firebox Grate area88 sq ft 8 2 m2 Boiler94 in 2 400 mm Boiler pressure210 lbf in2 1 45 MPa as built 200 lbf in2 1 38 MPa Heating surface Firebox400 sq ft 37 m2 CylindersTwoCylinder size29 in 28 in 737 mm 711 mm Performance figuresMaximum speed50 mph 80 km h limited Tractive effort57 580 lbf 256 13 kN as built 54 838 lbf 243 9 kN 69 780 lbf 310 400 N with boosterFactor of adh 4 13 as built 4 34 CareerOperatorsGreat NorthernClassP 2Numbers2500 2527Retired1955 1958PreservedTwo Nos 2507 and 2523 DispositionGreat Northern 2507 on display in Wishram Washington Great Northern 2523 on display in Willmar Minnesota remainder scrapped The locomotives were built as passenger locomotives and the class had the honor of pulling the first Empire Builder train Today two P 2s survive No 2507 is on display in Wishram WA and No 2523 is on display in Willmar MN Contents 1 History 1 1 Design 1 2 Revenue service 1 3 Accidents and incidents 2 Preservation 3 Roster 4 See also 5 ReferencesHistory edit nbsp GN 2523 on display in Willmar MN Design edit Built as passenger locomotives in 1923 they were used to haul passenger trains throughout the Great Northern They were built to speed up passenger trains on the mainline and have replaced the earlier P 1 Class of Mountains of 1914 as they were deemed too slow for passenger service While most Great Northern steam locomotives had a Belpaire firebox the P 2s had a radial stay firebox The first 18 were delivered as oil burners and the last 10 were delivered as coal burners 1 In service they were limited to 50 mph but managed up to 4 800 miles a month and were rated at 10 12 heavyweight passenger cars up the 1 8 Walton Hill at 18 mph Helper service is provided up the 1 65 grade outside of the St Paul Union Depot if trains consisted of 10 or more cars 2 Later in their service life their boiler pressure was increased from 200 psi to 210 psi increasing their tractive effort from 54 838 to 57 580 lbs About half of the class received roller bearings The P 2s were deemed as excellent passenger locomotives 3 Revenue service edit The locomotives pulled passenger trains such as the Empire Builder and Oriental Limited and was the first to pull the former While their performance in passenger service was excellent they were replaced by the S 2 Class of Northerns in Empire Builder service regulating them to other passenger trains and freight trains As the Great Northern dieselized retirement of the P 2s began in April 1955 and by April 1958 all have been retired 3 4 Accidents and incidents edit No 2507 while pulling train 27 the Fast Mail hit a landslide near Picnic Point south of Mukilteo Washington in the pre dawn hours of February 18 1948 The engineer and fireman survived but were both injured when the slide rolled the engine tender and a baggage car off the track and went over the rock sea wall into Puget Sound 5 The locomotive was eventually repaired and returned to service Preservation editTwo P 2s survived into preservation Great Northern 2507 was retired in December 1957 eventually sold to the Spokane Portland and Seattle for display at Maryhill WA and dedicated on September 3 1966 It was later moved to Pasco WA for restoration but it was unsuccessful The locomotive was moved again in 2003 to the depot in Wishram WA where it resides 6 Great Northern 2523 was retired in April 1958 and donated to the city of Willmar MN on October 7 1965 It is currently displayed at the Kandiyohi County Historical Society 6 Roster editNumber Baldwin serial number Date built Disposition Notes 2500 57000 September 1923 Sold for scrap May 9 1955 2501 57001 September 1923 Retired April 1955 2502 57002 September 1923 Sold for scrap April 19 1956 2503 57084 October 1923 Sold for scrap May 9 1955 2504 57085 October 1923 Sold for scrap May 9 1955 2505 57182 October 1923 Retired December 1957 Received booster that added 12 200 lbs of tractive effort in the late 1940s 2506 57183 October 1923 Sold for scrap October 7 1955 Received booster that added 12 200 lbs of tractive effort in the late 1940s 2507 57184 October 1923 Retired December 1957 sold to the Spokane Portland and Seattle Railway Moved to Pasco Washington for restoration attempt It was unsuccessful and moved to Wishram Washington in July 2003 where it still resides 2508 57185 October 1923 Sold for scrap October 7 1955 2509 57186 October 1923 Sold for scrap October 7 1955 2510 57187 October 1923 Retired December 1957 2511 57188 October 1923 Retired December 1957 2512 57189 October 1923 Sold for scrap October 7 1955 2513 57190 October 1923 Retired April 1958 2514 57256 October 1923 Retired March 1958 2515 57257 October 1923 Sold for scrap October 7 1955 2516 57258 October 1923 Sold for scrap October 7 1955 2517 57339 October 1923 Sold for scrap April 19 1956 2518 57012 October 1923 Scrapped May 9 1955 2519 57012 October 1923 Sold for scrap April 19 1956 2520 57340 October 1923 Retired December 1957 2521 57341 October 1923 Retired December 1957 Last GN steam locomotive to run out of Seattle 7 2522 57342 October 1923 Sold for scrap August 16 1956 2523 57343 October 1923 Retired April 1958 donated to the city of Willmar Minnesota on October 7 1965 currently on display at the Kandiyohi County Historical Society in Willmar MN 2524 57344 October 1923 Retired April 1958 2525 57345 October 1923 Retired December 1957 2526 57346 October 1923 Sold for scrap May 9 1955 2527 57347 October 1923 Sold for scrap April 19 1956 See also editGreat Northern P 1 Great Northern S 2References edit nbsp Wikimedia Commons has media related to Great Northern P 2 class The Wood Burner Engine William Crooks The Pittsburgh Press 7 November 1923 p 40 Baldwins on GN a b Great Northern 4 8 2 Mountain Locomotives in the USA steamlocomotive com Great Northern Empire then and Now http www gn npjointarchive org layouts 15 start aspx Lists GN Will Photos AllItems aspx a b Great Northern Empire Then and Now www greatnorthernempire net GNCascadeDivision 2521fromApril1958LocomotiveEngineersJournal Keyes Norman C Jr Middleton Kenneth R Autumn 1980 The Great Northern Railway Company All Time Locomotive Roster 1861 1970 Railroad History 143 143 Boston Mass Railway and Locomotive Historical Society 110 ISSN 0090 7847 JSTOR 43523930 Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Great Northern P 2 amp oldid 1202956654, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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