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Geoffrey Talbot

Geoffrey Talbot (sometimes Geoffrey II Talbot,[1] died around 1140) was a medieval Anglo-Norman nobleman during the civil war of King Stephen of England's reign. His landholdings around Swanscombe are considered to possibly constitute a feudal barony. Although he was at Stephen's court in early 1136, by 1138 Talbot was supporting Stephen's rival, Matilda. After escaping capture twice, Talbot was captured by partisans of Stephen but was released. In 1139 and 1140, Talbot was engaged in military operations around Hereford, which included fortifying Hereford Cathedral in an attempt to take Hereford Castle.

Geoffrey Talbot
Diedaround 1140
NationalityAnglo-Norman
Other namesGeoffrey II Talbot
Occupationbaron

Early life edit

Talbot was the son of Geoffrey Talbot, who owned lands at Swanscombe in Kent.[2] The younger Talbot's mother was Agnes, wife of the elder Talbot. Her ancestry is unclear, with David Crouch stating she was a member of the de Lacy family.[3] The Complete Peerage states she was probably the daughter of Walter de Lacy and Emma, and sister of Roger and Hugh de Lacy.[4] Katharine Keats-Rohan, however, posits that Agnes was probably the daughter of Helto Dapifer.[5]

Talbot's father is recorded as the holder the lands around Swanscombe in the 1166 Cartae Baronum, which states that the elder Talbot had the lands sometime before his death and that they passed to the younger Geoffrey. These holdings around Swanscombe are considered by some historians as probably comprising the feudal barony of Swanscombe.[1]

The family was connected in some way with the de Lacy family, as the younger Geoffrey named Gilbert de Lacy as his relative.[2] According to David Crouch, Agnes was Gilbert de Lacy's aunt, which if true would make de Lacy and Talbot first cousins.[3] He was also a relative of Sybil, the wife of Pain fitzJohn, who was his heiress.[2][a] He probably served as a household knight for Robert, the Earl of Gloucester.[3]

Stephen's reign edit

Talbot was present at the Easter court held by King Stephen at Westminster in 1136, along with a number of other nobles, magnates, and ecclesiastics.[6] In April 1138, his force took the town of Hereford from the supporters of King Stephen,[3] and held it for Stephen's rival and cousin, the Empress Matilda.[7] This was part of a concerted rebellion by Matilda's supporters, many of whom were connected with Matilda's half-brother Robert, the Earl of Gloucester. Talbot may have been the chief instigator of the rebellion. By mid-May, Stephen was besieging Talbot in Hereford Castle, a siege that lasted until mid-June, when the castle surrendered.[3] The garrison was allowed to leave unharmed,[8] but Talbot escaped, and fled to the de Lacy castle at Weobley Castle, which also was besieged and surrendered. Again, Talbot escaped capture and fled to Bristol, where Matilda's supporters were gathering.[3]

Talbot and de Lacy then launched an attack on the town of Bath. While scouting, the two men were attacked by forces from the city, and Talbot was captured by forces under the control of the bishop of Bath, Robert of Lewes. The Empress' forces then arranged a parley with the bishop and offered him a safe conduct, but when the bishop showed up at the meeting, he was threatened with hanging unless Talbot was released. The bishop released Talbot under duress. The release affected the bishop's relations with Stephen, who accused the bishop of supporting Matilda, and was only with difficulty persuaded to accept the bishop's explanation.[9]

In October 1139, Talbot was once more in charge of Hereford and withstood an attack by Miles of Gloucester, at that time a supporter of King Stephen.[10] By 1140, he had lost control of the castle and was attempting to regain control of it. Part of his efforts included fortifying Hereford Cathedral.[11] He was joined in his siege efforts by Miles of Gloucester, who had switched sides and was then supporting Matilda.[12]

Death and legacy edit

Talbot died in about 1140, and his lands passed to Sybil,[2] and her second husband, Josce de Dinan.[13] He was buried in Gloucester Abbey.[14] The lands at Swanscombe were divided between Talbot's two nieces, Cecily and Agnes, the daughters of Sybil and Pain fitzJohn. Cecily married first Roger of Hereford, son of Miles of Gloucester, and second William of Poitou and third Walter de Mayenne, but she had no children by any of her marriages and on her death in 1207, her lands passed to the heirs of her sister Agnes. Cecily's death without heirs also meant that the feudal barony of Swanscombe passed to her sister's heirs. Agnes married first Warin de Mountchesney and second Haldenald de Bidun, and her descendants held the barony of Swanscombe until 1324, when the line died out.[1]

Notes edit

  1. ^ The exact relationship between Sybil and Talbot is complicated by the fact that historians disagree about Sybil's parentage. Some historians state that she was the daughter of Hugh de Lacy, others have her as the daughter of Hugh's sister.[3]

Citations edit

  1. ^ a b c Sanders English Baronies pp. 144–145
  2. ^ a b c d Keats-Rohan Domesday Descendants p. 1122
  3. ^ a b c d e f g Crouch Reign of King Stephen pp. 78–80 and footnotes 16 and 21
  4. ^ Cokayne Complete Peerage IX pp. 424-425 Note
  5. ^ Keats-Rohan Domesday People p. 231
  6. ^ King King Stephen pp. 56–60
  7. ^ Chibnall Empress Matilda p. 78
  8. ^ King King Stephen p. 86
  9. ^ King King Stephen pp. 87–88
  10. ^ Crouch Reign of King Stephen p. 112
  11. ^ Davis and Bearman "Unknown Coventry Charter" English Historical Review p. 535 footnote 2
  12. ^ Marritt "Reeds Shaken by the Wind?" King Stephen's Reign p. 121
  13. ^ Coplestone-Crow "Payn fitzJohn and Ludlow Castle" Shropshire History and Archaeology p. 181
  14. ^ Marritt "Reeds Shaken by the Wind?" King Stephen's Reign p. 123

References edit

  • Chibnall, Marjorie (1991). The Empress Matilda: Queen Consort, Queen Mother and Lady of the English. Oxford, UK: Blackwell. ISBN 0-631-19028-7.
  • Cokayne, George E. (1982). The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct, or Dormant. Vol. IX (Microprint ed.). Gloucester, UK: A. Sutton. ISBN 0-904387-82-8.
  • Coplestone-Crow, B. (1995). "Payn fitzJohn and Ludlow Castle". Shropshire History and Archaeology Transactions of the Shropshire Archaeological and Historical Society. LXX: 171–183.
  • Crouch, David (2000). The Reign of King Stephen: 1135–1154. New York: Longman. ISBN 0-582-22657-0.
  • Davis, R. H. C.; Bearman, Robert (July 1971). "An Unknown Coventry Charter". The English Historical Review. 86 (340): 533–547. doi:10.1093/ehr/lxxxvi.cccxl.533. JSTOR 562717.
  • Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. (1999). Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066–1166: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Ipswich, UK: Boydell Press. ISBN 0-85115-863-3.
  • Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. (1999). Domesday People: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066–1166: Domesday Book. Ipswich, UK: Boydell Press. ISBN 0-85115-722-X.
  • King, Edmund (2010). King Stephen. The English Monarchs Series. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press. ISBN 978-0-300-11223-8.
  • Marritt, Stephen (2008). "King Stephen's Reign (1135-1154)". In Dalton, Paul; White, Graeme J. (eds.). King Stephen's Reign. Woodbridge, UK: Boydell Press. pp. 115–138. ISBN 978-1-84383-361-1.
  • Sanders, I. J. (1960). English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent 1086–1327. Oxford, UK: Clarendon Press. OCLC 931660.


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For the father of Geoffrey Talbot II see Geoffrey Talbot died 1129 Geoffrey Talbot sometimes Geoffrey II Talbot 1 died around 1140 was a medieval Anglo Norman nobleman during the civil war of King Stephen of England s reign His landholdings around Swanscombe are considered to possibly constitute a feudal barony Although he was at Stephen s court in early 1136 by 1138 Talbot was supporting Stephen s rival Matilda After escaping capture twice Talbot was captured by partisans of Stephen but was released In 1139 and 1140 Talbot was engaged in military operations around Hereford which included fortifying Hereford Cathedral in an attempt to take Hereford Castle Geoffrey TalbotDiedaround 1140NationalityAnglo NormanOther namesGeoffrey II TalbotOccupationbaron Contents 1 Early life 2 Stephen s reign 3 Death and legacy 4 Notes 5 Citations 6 ReferencesEarly life editTalbot was the son of Geoffrey Talbot who owned lands at Swanscombe in Kent 2 The younger Talbot s mother was Agnes wife of the elder Talbot Her ancestry is unclear with David Crouch stating she was a member of the de Lacy family 3 The Complete Peerage states she was probably the daughter of Walter de Lacy and Emma and sister of Roger and Hugh de Lacy 4 Katharine Keats Rohan however posits that Agnes was probably the daughter of Helto Dapifer 5 Talbot s father is recorded as the holder the lands around Swanscombe in the 1166 Cartae Baronum which states that the elder Talbot had the lands sometime before his death and that they passed to the younger Geoffrey These holdings around Swanscombe are considered by some historians as probably comprising the feudal barony of Swanscombe 1 The family was connected in some way with the de Lacy family as the younger Geoffrey named Gilbert de Lacy as his relative 2 According to David Crouch Agnes was Gilbert de Lacy s aunt which if true would make de Lacy and Talbot first cousins 3 He was also a relative of Sybil the wife of Pain fitzJohn who was his heiress 2 a He probably served as a household knight for Robert the Earl of Gloucester 3 Stephen s reign editTalbot was present at the Easter court held by King Stephen at Westminster in 1136 along with a number of other nobles magnates and ecclesiastics 6 In April 1138 his force took the town of Hereford from the supporters of King Stephen 3 and held it for Stephen s rival and cousin the Empress Matilda 7 This was part of a concerted rebellion by Matilda s supporters many of whom were connected with Matilda s half brother Robert the Earl of Gloucester Talbot may have been the chief instigator of the rebellion By mid May Stephen was besieging Talbot in Hereford Castle a siege that lasted until mid June when the castle surrendered 3 The garrison was allowed to leave unharmed 8 but Talbot escaped and fled to the de Lacy castle at Weobley Castle which also was besieged and surrendered Again Talbot escaped capture and fled to Bristol where Matilda s supporters were gathering 3 Talbot and de Lacy then launched an attack on the town of Bath While scouting the two men were attacked by forces from the city and Talbot was captured by forces under the control of the bishop of Bath Robert of Lewes The Empress forces then arranged a parley with the bishop and offered him a safe conduct but when the bishop showed up at the meeting he was threatened with hanging unless Talbot was released The bishop released Talbot under duress The release affected the bishop s relations with Stephen who accused the bishop of supporting Matilda and was only with difficulty persuaded to accept the bishop s explanation 9 In October 1139 Talbot was once more in charge of Hereford and withstood an attack by Miles of Gloucester at that time a supporter of King Stephen 10 By 1140 he had lost control of the castle and was attempting to regain control of it Part of his efforts included fortifying Hereford Cathedral 11 He was joined in his siege efforts by Miles of Gloucester who had switched sides and was then supporting Matilda 12 Death and legacy editTalbot died in about 1140 and his lands passed to Sybil 2 and her second husband Josce de Dinan 13 He was buried in Gloucester Abbey 14 The lands at Swanscombe were divided between Talbot s two nieces Cecily and Agnes the daughters of Sybil and Pain fitzJohn Cecily married first Roger of Hereford son of Miles of Gloucester and second William of Poitou and third Walter de Mayenne but she had no children by any of her marriages and on her death in 1207 her lands passed to the heirs of her sister Agnes Cecily s death without heirs also meant that the feudal barony of Swanscombe passed to her sister s heirs Agnes married first Warin de Mountchesney and second Haldenald de Bidun and her descendants held the barony of Swanscombe until 1324 when the line died out 1 Notes edit The exact relationship between Sybil and Talbot is complicated by the fact that historians disagree about Sybil s parentage Some historians state that she was the daughter of Hugh de Lacy others have her as the daughter of Hugh s sister 3 Citations edit a b c Sanders English Baronies pp 144 145 a b c d Keats Rohan Domesday Descendants p 1122 a b c d e f g Crouch Reign of King Stephen pp 78 80 and footnotes 16 and 21 Cokayne Complete Peerage IX pp 424 425 Note Keats Rohan Domesday People p 231 King King Stephen pp 56 60 Chibnall Empress Matilda p 78 King King Stephen p 86 King King Stephen pp 87 88 Crouch Reign of King Stephen p 112 Davis and Bearman Unknown Coventry Charter English Historical Review p 535 footnote 2 Marritt Reeds Shaken by the Wind King Stephen s Reign p 121 Coplestone Crow Payn fitzJohn and Ludlow Castle Shropshire History and Archaeology p 181 Marritt Reeds Shaken by the Wind King Stephen s Reign p 123References editChibnall Marjorie 1991 The Empress Matilda Queen Consort Queen Mother and Lady of the English Oxford UK Blackwell ISBN 0 631 19028 7 Cokayne George E 1982 The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom Extant Extinct or Dormant Vol IX Microprint ed Gloucester UK A Sutton ISBN 0 904387 82 8 Coplestone Crow B 1995 Payn fitzJohn and Ludlow Castle Shropshire History and Archaeology Transactions of the Shropshire Archaeological and Historical Society LXX 171 183 Crouch David 2000 The Reign of King Stephen 1135 1154 New York Longman ISBN 0 582 22657 0 Davis R H C Bearman Robert July 1971 An Unknown Coventry Charter The English Historical Review 86 340 533 547 doi 10 1093 ehr lxxxvi cccxl 533 JSTOR 562717 Keats Rohan K S B 1999 Domesday Descendants A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066 1166 Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum Ipswich UK Boydell Press ISBN 0 85115 863 3 Keats Rohan K S B 1999 Domesday People A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066 1166 Domesday Book Ipswich UK Boydell Press ISBN 0 85115 722 X King Edmund 2010 King Stephen The English Monarchs Series New Haven CT Yale University Press ISBN 978 0 300 11223 8 Marritt Stephen 2008 King Stephen s Reign 1135 1154 In Dalton Paul White Graeme J eds King Stephen s Reign Woodbridge UK Boydell Press pp 115 138 ISBN 978 1 84383 361 1 Sanders I J 1960 English Baronies A Study of Their Origin and Descent 1086 1327 Oxford UK Clarendon Press OCLC 931660 Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Geoffrey Talbot amp oldid 1130211022, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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