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Elizabeth Cheney (1422–1473)

Elizabeth Cheney (April 1422 – 25 September 1473) was a member of the English gentry, who was the great-grandmother of Anne Boleyn, Jane Seymour, and Catherine Howard, three of the wives of King Henry VIII of England, thus making her great-great-grandmother to King Edward VI, the son of Henry VIII and Jane Seymour, and Elizabeth I, the daughter of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn. Her first husband was Sir Frederick Tilney, and her second husband was Sir John Say, Speaker of the House of Commons. She bore a total of eight children from both marriages.

Elizabeth Cheney
BornApril 1422
Died25 September 1473 (aged 51)
Spouse(s)Sir Frederick Tilney (one child; Elizabeth Tilney)
Sir John Say (7 children; see below)
Parent(s)Sir Lawrence Cheney
Elizabeth Cockayne

Family edit

Born in Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire in April 1422, she was the eldest child of Lawrence Cheney (c. 1396 – 1461), High Sheriff of Cambridgeshire, and his wife, Elizabeth (née Cokayne).[1] She had three younger sisters, Anne, wife of John Appleyard; Mary, wife of John Allington; Catherine, wife of Henry Barley, and one brother, Sir John Cheney who married Elizabeth Rempston, by whom he had issue. She had two half-brothers by her mother's first marriage to Sir Philip Butler. [citation needed]

Her paternal grandparents were Sir William Cheney and Katherine Pabenham, and her maternal grandparents were Sir John Cokayne, Chief Baron of the Exchequer and Ida de Grey, the daughter of Reginald Grey, 2nd Baron Grey de Ruthyn and Eleanor Le Strange of Blackmere.[citation needed]

Marriages and issue edit

On an unknown date, Elizabeth Cheney married her first husband Sir Frederick Tilney, of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, and Boston, Lincolnshire. He was the son of Sir Philip Tilney and Isabel Thorpe. They made their principal residence at Ashwellthorpe Manor. The couple had one daughter:

Sir Frederick Tilney died in 1445, leaving their young daughter Elizabeth as heiress to his estates. Shortly before 1 December 1446, Elizabeth Cheney married secondly Sir John Say, of Broxbourne, Hertfordshire, Speaker of the House of Commons, and a member of the household of King Henry VI. He was a member of the embassy, led by William de la Pole, which was sent to France in 1444 to negotiate with King Charles VII for the marriage between King Henry and Margaret of Anjou.[2] Her father settled land worth fifty marks clear per annum upon the couple and their issue before Candlemas, 1453. They made their home at Broxbourne, Hertfordshire.[2]

Sir John Say and Elizabeth had three sons and four daughters:

  • Sir William Say (1452- 1529), of Baas (in Broxbourne), Bedwell (in Essendon), Bennington, Little Berkhampstead, and Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, Lawford, Essex, Market Overton, Rutland, etc., Burgess (M.P.) for Plympton, Knight of the Shire for Hertfordshire, Sheriff of Somerset and Dorset, 1478–9, Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire, 1482–3, Justice of the Peace for Hertfordshire, 1486–1506, and, in right of his 1st wife, of East Lydford, Radstock, Spaxton, Wellesleigh, and Wheathill, Somerset, and, in right of his 2nd wife, of Wormingford Hall (in Wormingford), Essex, Great Munden, Hertfordshire, etc. He married (1st) before 18 November 1472 (date of letters of attorney) Genevieve Hill, daughter/heiress of John Hill, of Spaxton, Somerset. She was still alive in 1478. He married (2nd) shortly after 18 April 1480 Elizabeth Fray, widow of Sir Thomas Waldegrave, by whom he had two daughters, Mary Say and Elizabeth Say.[2] Mary, the eldest daughter married Henry Bourchier, 2nd Earl of Essex and 6th Baron Bourchier, by whom she had one daughter, Anne Bourchier, 7th Baroness Bourchier.[citation needed]
  • Thomas Say, of Liston Hall, Essex.
  • [Master] Leonard Say, clerk, Rector of Spaxton, Somerset. See Testamenta Eboracensia, 4 (Surtees Soc. 53) (1869): 86–88 (will of Leonard Say, clerk).
  • Anne Say (died 1478/1494), married Henry Wentworth, K.B., of Nettlestead, Suffolk, Goxhill, Lincolnshire, Parlington and Pontefract, Yorkshire, and of London, Esquire of the Household, Knight of the Body, Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk, 1481–82, Sheriff of Yorkshire, 1489–90, 1492, Knight of the Shire for Yorkshire, 1491–92, by whom she had issue, including Margery Wentworth, mother of Jane Seymour.
  • Mary Say, married Sir Philip Calthorpe, Knt., by whom she had issue.
  • Margaret Say, married Thomas Sampson, Esq.
  • Katherine Say, married Thomas Bassingbourne.

Royal descendants edit

Death edit

On 25 September 1473, aged 51, Elizabeth Cheney died. She was buried in the church at Broxbourne. Following her death, John Say remarried to Agnes Danvers. He died five years later on 12 April 1478. Sometime after 1478, Elizabeth's eldest son, Sir William Say, married his second wife, Elizabeth Fray, a daughter of his stepmother Agnes, by her first husband, Sir John Fray (1419–1461), Chief Baron of the Exchequer.[2]

Sources edit

  • John Smith Roskell, Parliament and Politics in Late Medieval England, Vol. 2, Google Books, accessed 9 September 2009 [ISBN missing]

References edit

  1. ^ Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct, Or Dormant, Volume 6, 1895 Google eBook
  2. ^ a b c d John Smith Roskell, Parliament and Politics in Late Medieval England, volume 2, pp. 155–56, 170–71, Google Books, accessed 9 September 2009

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Elizabeth Cheney April 1422 25 September 1473 was a member of the English gentry who was the great grandmother of Anne Boleyn Jane Seymour and Catherine Howard three of the wives of King Henry VIII of England thus making her great great grandmother to King Edward VI the son of Henry VIII and Jane Seymour and Elizabeth I the daughter of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn Her first husband was Sir Frederick Tilney and her second husband was Sir John Say Speaker of the House of Commons She bore a total of eight children from both marriages Elizabeth CheneyBornApril 1422Fen Ditton Cambridgeshire EnglandDied25 September 1473 aged 51 Broxbourne Hertfordshire EnglandSpouse s Sir Frederick Tilney one child Elizabeth Tilney Sir John Say 7 children see below Parent s Sir Lawrence CheneyElizabeth Cockayne Contents 1 Family 2 Marriages and issue 3 Royal descendants 4 Death 5 Sources 6 ReferencesFamily editBorn in Fen Ditton Cambridgeshire in April 1422 she was the eldest child of Lawrence Cheney c 1396 1461 High Sheriff of Cambridgeshire and his wife Elizabeth nee Cokayne 1 She had three younger sisters Anne wife of John Appleyard Mary wife of John Allington Catherine wife of Henry Barley and one brother Sir John Cheney who married Elizabeth Rempston by whom he had issue She had two half brothers by her mother s first marriage to Sir Philip Butler citation needed Her paternal grandparents were Sir William Cheney and Katherine Pabenham and her maternal grandparents were Sir John Cokayne Chief Baron of the Exchequer and Ida de Grey the daughter of Reginald Grey 2nd Baron Grey de Ruthyn and Eleanor Le Strange of Blackmere citation needed Marriages and issue editOn an unknown date Elizabeth Cheney married her first husband Sir Frederick Tilney of Ashwellthorpe Norfolk and Boston Lincolnshire He was the son of Sir Philip Tilney and Isabel Thorpe They made their principal residence at Ashwellthorpe Manor The couple had one daughter Elizabeth Tilney before 1445 4 April 1497 married firstly in about 1466 Sir Humphrey Bourchier by whom she had three children and secondly on 30 April 1472 Thomas Howard Earl of Surrey who later became the 2nd Duke of Norfolk by whom she had nine children These children included Thomas Howard 3rd Duke of Norfolk Elizabeth Howard mother of Anne Boleyn and Lord Edmund Howard father of Catherine Howard citation needed Sir Frederick Tilney died in 1445 leaving their young daughter Elizabeth as heiress to his estates Shortly before 1 December 1446 Elizabeth Cheney married secondly Sir John Say of Broxbourne Hertfordshire Speaker of the House of Commons and a member of the household of King Henry VI He was a member of the embassy led by William de la Pole which was sent to France in 1444 to negotiate with King Charles VII for the marriage between King Henry and Margaret of Anjou 2 Her father settled land worth fifty marks clear per annum upon the couple and their issue before Candlemas 1453 They made their home at Broxbourne Hertfordshire 2 Sir John Say and Elizabeth had three sons and four daughters Sir William Say 1452 1529 of Baas in Broxbourne Bedwell in Essendon Bennington Little Berkhampstead and Sawbridgeworth Hertfordshire Lawford Essex Market Overton Rutland etc Burgess M P for Plympton Knight of the Shire for Hertfordshire Sheriff of Somerset and Dorset 1478 9 Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire 1482 3 Justice of the Peace for Hertfordshire 1486 1506 and in right of his 1st wife of East Lydford Radstock Spaxton Wellesleigh and Wheathill Somerset and in right of his 2nd wife of Wormingford Hall in Wormingford Essex Great Munden Hertfordshire etc He married 1st before 18 November 1472 date of letters of attorney Genevieve Hill daughter heiress of John Hill of Spaxton Somerset She was still alive in 1478 He married 2nd shortly after 18 April 1480 Elizabeth Fray widow of Sir Thomas Waldegrave by whom he had two daughters Mary Say and Elizabeth Say 2 Mary the eldest daughter married Henry Bourchier 2nd Earl of Essex and 6th Baron Bourchier by whom she had one daughter Anne Bourchier 7th Baroness Bourchier citation needed Thomas Say of Liston Hall Essex Master Leonard Say clerk Rector of Spaxton Somerset See Testamenta Eboracensia 4 Surtees Soc 53 1869 86 88 will of Leonard Say clerk Anne Say died 1478 1494 married Henry Wentworth K B of Nettlestead Suffolk Goxhill Lincolnshire Parlington and Pontefract Yorkshire and of London Esquire of the Household Knight of the Body Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk 1481 82 Sheriff of Yorkshire 1489 90 1492 Knight of the Shire for Yorkshire 1491 92 by whom she had issue including Margery Wentworth mother of Jane Seymour Mary Say married Sir Philip Calthorpe Knt by whom she had issue Margaret Say married Thomas Sampson Esq Katherine Say married Thomas Bassingbourne Royal descendants editElizabeth Cheney Elizabeth TilneyAnne Say Lord Edmund HowardElizabeth HowardMargery Wentworth Catherine HowardAnne BoleynHenry VIIIJane Seymour Elizabeth IEdward VIDeath editOn 25 September 1473 aged 51 Elizabeth Cheney died She was buried in the church at Broxbourne Following her death John Say remarried to Agnes Danvers He died five years later on 12 April 1478 Sometime after 1478 Elizabeth s eldest son Sir William Say married his second wife Elizabeth Fray a daughter of his stepmother Agnes by her first husband Sir John Fray 1419 1461 Chief Baron of the Exchequer 2 Sources editJohn Smith Roskell Parliament and Politics in Late Medieval England Vol 2 Google Books accessed 9 September 2009 ISBN missing References edit Cokayne George Edward Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom Extant Extinct Or Dormant Volume 6 1895 Google eBook a b c d John Smith Roskell Parliament and Politics in Late Medieval England volume 2 pp 155 56 170 71 Google Books accessed 9 September 2009 Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Elizabeth Cheney 1422 1473 amp oldid 1192766240, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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