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Dutch ship Tromp (1777)

Tromp was a Dutch fourth-rate ship of the line launched at Rotterdam in 1777. The Royal Navy captured her at the Capitulation of Saldanha Bay on 17 August 1796. The Royal Navy took her into service as HMS Tromp, sometimes referred to as HMS Van Tromp. In British service she served as a prison, troop, store, guard, hospital, or receiving ship until the Navy sold her in 1815.

History
Dutch Republic
NameTromp, or Maarten Harpertszoon Tromp, or Admiraal Tromp
NamesakeAdmiral Maarten Tromp
BuilderP. v. Zwinjndregt, Admiralty of the Maze, Rotterdam
Launched1777,[1] or 1779[2]
Captured17 August 1796
Great Britain
NameTromp, or Van Tromp
Acquired17 August 1796 by capture
FateSold 9 August 1815
General characteristics ,[1][2][3]
TypeFourth-rate
Tonnage"1004e"[2]
Tons burthen10396594 (bm)[3]
Length
  • Dutch: 154' (Overdeck; Amsterdam foot)[a]
  • HMS:143 ft 10+12 in (43.9 m)) (overall); 117 ft 10 in (35.9 m) (keel)
Beam
  • Dutch: 43' 911
  • HMS:40 ft 8+34 in (12.4 m)
Depth of hold
  • Dutch: 19'
  • HMS:15 ft 3 in (4.6 m)
PropulsionSails
Complement
  • Dutch: 200[2]
  • HMS: na
Armament
  • Dutch: 50-60 guns,[2] or 54 guns[1]
  • HMS (prison ship): 10 × 6-pounder guns
  • HMS (guardship): 12 × 12-pounder guns

Dutch service and capture edit

As of 1 January 1788, Tromp was lying at Helvoet.

The Royal Navy captured Tromp at Saldanha Bay on 17 August 1796. She was under the command of Lieutenant Jan Valkenburg, and was carrying 280 crew and passengers.

British service edit

The British commissioned Tromp in December 1796 under Captain Andrew Todd. In February 1797 Captain John Turnor of Echo was made post captain into Tromp,[4] replacing Todd. Turnor transferred to HMS Trident and in November Captain Billy Douglas replaced him in Tromp. Between 3 January and 19 April 1798, Tromp was at Portsmouth being fitted as a 24-gun troopship. Captain Richard Hill commissioned her in February.[3]

On 1 January 1799, Tromp was off Ireland. On 16 January, Van Tromp arrived at Spithead with the transport ship Abbey. They were coming from Cork, Ireland, with 620 French prisoners.[5][b] By 19 March, she was at Spithead, being fitted as a store ship.[6] On 7 April, she sailed from Portsmouth with Diadem for Dublin. They were carrying the West York militia. Other warships, also armed en flute, were carrying the Oxford and the Cambridge militias.[7]

In June Captain Richard Worsley took command of Tromp, but paid her off in December. In January 1800 the Admiralty ordered her to be fitted out as a prison ship for the West Indies. Between February and June she was at Chatham being fitted out. In April Commander Terence O'Neill commissioned her as a troopship.[3][c]

On 17 July Tromp, Circe, and Venus left Portsmouth with a convoy to the West. Indies.[9] At Port Royal Tromp took up her role as a prison ship. Her first commander was Lieutenant Felix Frankling (acting), and then in 1800 Lieutenant William Byam. Lieutenant John Fitzgerald replaced Byam and held command until 1802. Tromp returned to Britain in September and was paid off. Commander John A. Norway recommissioned Tromp in June 1803. She was fitted at Portsmouth as a guardship in August. She became a hospital ship at Falmouth in January 1806 under the command of Lieutenant Michael M'Carthy.[3]

However, she may have reverted to the role of guardship under Norway's command. On 6 June 1806 a court martial dismissed Norway from the Navy. The ship's carpenter had accused Norway of converting the king's stores to his private purposes, and for making false musters. The court found the charge of converting not proven, but convicted Norway of the false musters.[10]

Then on 28 August 1807, Tromp detained the Danish ships Diamond and Karen Louisa. Recruit, Humber, Cheerful, and Experiment were in sight and so shared in the proceeds of the seizure.[11][d]

M'Carthy remained commander of Tromp though 1810. Then between April and May 1811 she was fitted as a receiving ship.[3]

Fate edit

Tromp was in ordinary at Portsmouth between 1812 and 1814. The Navy sold her there for £700 on 9 August 1815.[3]

Notes edit

  1. ^ All linear measurements are in Amsterdam feet (voet) of 11 Amsterdam inches (duim) (see Dutch units of measurement). The Amsterdam foot is about 8% shorter than an English foot. The data is from the Rotterdams jaarboekje.[1] e
  2. ^ The prisoners were from the French intervention in the Irish rebellion of 1798.
  3. ^ He had been promoted into Tromp from the hired armed cutter Marechal de Cobourg. Unbeknownst to him, another officer in the West Indies had been appointed to command Tromp when she arrived.[8]
  4. ^ A second-class share, that of a lieutenant, was worth £11 7s 8d; a fifth-class share, that of a seaman, was worth 16s 6¼d.[12]

Citations edit

  1. ^ a b c d Rotterdams jaarboekje(1900), Vols. 7-8, p. 111.
  2. ^ a b c d e van Maanen, p. 39.
  3. ^ a b c d e f g Winfield (2008), p. 114.
  4. ^ Naval Chronicle, Vol. 24, p.446.
  5. ^ Naval Chronicle, Vol. 1, p. 168.
  6. ^ Naval Chronicle, Vol. 1, p. 346.
  7. ^ Naval Chronicle, Vol. 1, p.444.
  8. ^ Marshall (1832), pp. 314–16.
  9. ^ Naval Chronicle, Vol. 4, p.164.
  10. ^ A Treatise on the Law and Practice of Naval Courts-Martial, pp.142–43.
  11. ^ "No. 16498". The London Gazette. 22 June 1811. p. 1157.
  12. ^ "No. 18090". The London Gazette. 14 December 1824. p. 2081.

References edit

  • Marshall, John (1832). "O'Neill, Terence" . Royal Naval Biography. Vol. 3, part 2. London: Longman and company.
  • van Maanen, Ron (20 June 2008). "Preliminary list of Dutch naval vessel built or required in the period 1700-1799" (PDF). {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)
  • Rotterdams jaarboekje (1900). Historisch Genootschap Roterodamum. (W. L. & J. Brusse).
  • Winfield, Rif (2008). British Warships in the Age of Sail 1793–1817: Design, Construction, Careers and Fates. Seaforth. ISBN 978-1-86176-246-7.

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Tromp was a Dutch fourth rate ship of the line launched at Rotterdam in 1777 The Royal Navy captured her at the Capitulation of Saldanha Bay on 17 August 1796 The Royal Navy took her into service as HMS Tromp sometimes referred to as HMS Van Tromp In British service she served as a prison troop store guard hospital or receiving ship until the Navy sold her in 1815 History Dutch Republic NameTromp or Maarten Harpertszoon Tromp or Admiraal Tromp NamesakeAdmiral Maarten Tromp BuilderP v Zwinjndregt Admiralty of the Maze Rotterdam Launched1777 1 or 1779 2 Captured17 August 1796 Great Britain NameTromp or Van Tromp Acquired17 August 1796 by capture FateSold 9 August 1815 General characteristics 1 2 3 TypeFourth rate Tonnage 1004e 2 Tons burthen103965 94 bm 3 LengthDutch 154 Overdeck Amsterdam foot a HMS 143 ft 10 1 2 in 43 9 m overall 117 ft 10 in 35 9 m keel BeamDutch 43 9 11 HMS 40 ft 8 3 4 in 12 4 m Depth of holdDutch 19 HMS 15 ft 3 in 4 6 m PropulsionSails ComplementDutch 200 2 HMS na ArmamentDutch 50 60 guns 2 or 54 guns 1 HMS prison ship 10 6 pounder guns HMS guardship 12 12 pounder guns Contents 1 Dutch service and capture 2 British service 3 Fate 4 Notes 5 Citations 6 ReferencesDutch service and capture editAs of 1 January 1788 Tromp was lying at Helvoet Main article Capitulation of Saldanha Bay The Royal Navy captured Tromp at Saldanha Bay on 17 August 1796 She was under the command of Lieutenant Jan Valkenburg and was carrying 280 crew and passengers British service editThe British commissioned Tromp in December 1796 under Captain Andrew Todd In February 1797 Captain John Turnor of Echo was made post captain into Tromp 4 replacing Todd Turnor transferred to HMS Trident and in November Captain Billy Douglas replaced him in Tromp Between 3 January and 19 April 1798 Tromp was at Portsmouth being fitted as a 24 gun troopship Captain Richard Hill commissioned her in February 3 On 1 January 1799 Tromp was off Ireland On 16 January Van Tromp arrived at Spithead with the transport ship Abbey They were coming from Cork Ireland with 620 French prisoners 5 b By 19 March she was at Spithead being fitted as a store ship 6 On 7 April she sailed from Portsmouth with Diadem for Dublin They were carrying the West York militia Other warships also armed en flute were carrying the Oxford and the Cambridge militias 7 In June Captain Richard Worsley took command of Tromp but paid her off in December In January 1800 the Admiralty ordered her to be fitted out as a prison ship for the West Indies Between February and June she was at Chatham being fitted out In April Commander Terence O Neill commissioned her as a troopship 3 c On 17 July Tromp Circe and Venus left Portsmouth with a convoy to the West Indies 9 At Port Royal Tromp took up her role as a prison ship Her first commander was Lieutenant Felix Frankling acting and then in 1800 Lieutenant William Byam Lieutenant John Fitzgerald replaced Byam and held command until 1802 Tromp returned to Britain in September and was paid off Commander John A Norway recommissioned Tromp in June 1803 She was fitted at Portsmouth as a guardship in August She became a hospital ship at Falmouth in January 1806 under the command of Lieutenant Michael M Carthy 3 However she may have reverted to the role of guardship under Norway s command On 6 June 1806 a court martial dismissed Norway from the Navy The ship s carpenter had accused Norway of converting the king s stores to his private purposes and for making false musters The court found the charge of converting not proven but convicted Norway of the false musters 10 Then on 28 August 1807 Tromp detained the Danish ships Diamond and Karen Louisa Recruit Humber Cheerful and Experiment were in sight and so shared in the proceeds of the seizure 11 d M Carthy remained commander of Tromp though 1810 Then between April and May 1811 she was fitted as a receiving ship 3 Fate editTromp was in ordinary at Portsmouth between 1812 and 1814 The Navy sold her there for 700 on 9 August 1815 3 Notes edit All linear measurements are in Amsterdam feet voet of 11 Amsterdam inches duim see Dutch units of measurement The Amsterdam foot is about 8 shorter than an English foot The data is from the Rotterdams jaarboekje 1 e The prisoners were from the French intervention in the Irish rebellion of 1798 He had been promoted into Tromp from the hired armed cutter Marechal de Cobourg Unbeknownst to him another officer in the West Indies had been appointed to command Tromp when she arrived 8 A second class share that of a lieutenant was worth 11 7s 8d a fifth class share that of a seaman was worth 16s 6 d 12 Citations edit a b c d Rotterdams jaarboekje 1900 Vols 7 8 p 111 a b c d e van Maanen p 39 a b c d e f g Winfield 2008 p 114 Naval Chronicle Vol 24 p 446 Naval Chronicle Vol 1 p 168 Naval Chronicle Vol 1 p 346 Naval Chronicle Vol 1 p 444 Marshall 1832 pp 314 16 Naval Chronicle Vol 4 p 164 A Treatise on the Law and Practice of Naval Courts Martial pp 142 43 No 16498 The London Gazette 22 June 1811 p 1157 No 18090 The London Gazette 14 December 1824 p 2081 References editMarshall John 1832 O Neill Terence Royal Naval Biography Vol 3 part 2 London Longman and company van Maanen Ron 20 June 2008 Preliminary list of Dutch naval vessel built or required in the period 1700 1799 PDF a href Template Cite journal html title Template Cite journal cite journal a Cite journal requires journal help Rotterdams jaarboekje 1900 Historisch Genootschap Roterodamum W L amp J Brusse Winfield Rif 2008 British Warships in the Age of Sail 1793 1817 Design Construction Careers and Fates Seaforth ISBN 978 1 86176 246 7 Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Dutch ship Tromp 1777 amp oldid 1167734624, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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