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Carol Lay

Carol Lay (born 1952) is an American alternative cartoonist best known for her weekly comic strip, Story Minute (later to evolve into the strip Way Lay), which ran for almost 20 years in such US papers as the LA Weekly, the NY Press, and on Salon. Lay has been drawing professionally for over 30 years. Based in Los Angeles, Lay's strips and illustrations have appeared in Entertainment Weekly, Mad, Newsweek, Worth Magazine, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The New Yorker.

Carol Lay
Lay, photographed in 2006
Born1952 (age 70–71)
Whittier, California
Area(s)Cartoonist
Notable works
Way Lay
Good Girls
The Big Skinny
Illiteracy
AwardsInkpot Award (1997)[1]
http://www.carollay.com

Biography

Early life

Lay was born in Whittier, California.[2] In 1975 she graduated with a B.F.A. in Fine Arts from UCLA.[3]

Career

After graduating from UCLA, Lay entered the comics industry at DC Comics and Western Publishing, while simultaneously writing and drawing underground comics for titles such as Weirdo and her own Good Girls #1–6.[3]

Lay's work, including "Story Minute" appeared in alternative newsweeklies during the 1990s.

She is the author of Mythos, a prose novel featuring Wonder Woman (DC/Pocket Books, 2003),[4] Goodnight, Irene: The Collected Stories of Irene Van de Kamp (Last Gasp, 2007), and The Big Skinny: How I Changed My Fattitude, a Memoir (Villard, 2008).[5]

From 2010 to 2013, Lay wrote and drew Simpsons stories for Bongo Comics.

In 2013, Lay created Murderville #1: "A Farewell to Armories", a self-published, small-print-run, Kickstarter-funded comic featuring twenty-four pages of story plus four front & back, outside & inside cover pages.

On January 26, 2015, Carol Lay's Lay Lines page began on GoComics with a week-long serialization of her story "The Thing Under the Futon" (January 26–30, 2015), followed by serializations of "Now, Endsville" (February 3–10, 2015) and "Invisible City" (April 12–June 26, 2015). Lay Lines has also reprinted pages from Lay's weekly newspaper comic Story Minutes, in color for the first time. New Lay Lines comics feature followups to Murderville.[6]

Bibliography

 
"Meeting Place" by Carol Lay.
  • Lay, Carol (w, a). "Reach Out and Touch Someone" Pontiac Tempura (July 1980), unknown publisher
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Binswanger, Lee and LeMieux, Kathryn (ed). "The Mysogynist" Wimmen's Comix 8 (March 1983), Last Gasp
  • Lay, Carol (as "Cora Lloyd") (w, a), Bagge, Peter (ed). "Midwestern Wedding" Weirdo 10 (Summer 1984), Last Gasp
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Gilbert, Erick (ed). "Brainfood" Cannibal Romances 1 (1986), Last Gasp
  • Bridwell, E. Nelson; Cavalieri, Joey; Lay, Carol (w), Lay, Carol (a), Gafford, Carl (col), Weiss, David Cody (as "Cody") (let), Thomas, Roy (ed). The Oz-Wonderland Wars 1 (January 1986), DC Comics
  • Bridwell, E. Nelson; Cavalieri, Joey; Lay, Carol (w), Lay, Carol (a), Barube, Liz (col), Lay, Carol (let), Thomas, Roy (ed). The Oz-Wonderland Wars 2 (February 1986), DC Comics
  • Bridwell, E. Nelson; Cavalieri, Joey; Lay, Carol (w), Lay, Carol (a), Barube, Liz (col), Lay, Carol (let), Thomas, Roy (ed). The Oz-Wonderland Wars 3 (March 1986), DC Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a). Good Girls 1 (April 1987), Fantagraphics Books
  • Hernandez, Gilbert (w, a), Lay, Carol (col), Hernandez, Gilbert (let), Groth, Gary (ed). "Heartbreak Soup: Space Case" Anything Goes! 4 (May 1987), The Comics Journal
  • Lay, Carol (w, a). Good Girls 2 (October 1987), Fantagraphics Books
  • Lay, Carol (w, a). Good Girls 3 (May 1988), Fantagraphics Books
  • Lay, Carol (w, a). Good Girls 4 (February 1989), Fantagraphics Books
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Kominsky-Crumb, Aline (ed). "The Prince and the Art Girl" Weirdo 27 (Spring 1990), Last Gasp
  • Lay, Carol (w, a). Good Girls 5 (January 1991), Fantagraphics Books
  • Lay, Carol (w, a). Good Girls 6 (1991), Rip Off Press
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Kinney, Jay (ed). "Panty Raid" Young Lust 8 (1993), Last Gasp
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Schreiner, Dave (ed). Now, Endsville (November 1993), Kitchen Sink Press, ISBN 0-87816-235-6
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Amara, Phil (ed). Joy Ride (January 1996), Kitchen Sink Press, ISBN 0-87816-398-0
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Couch, Christopher (ed). Strip Joint (September 1998), Kitchen Sink Press, ISBN 0-87816-578-9
  • Wonder Woman: Mythos, Pocket Star, 2003. ISBN 978-0-7434-1711-2. (prose novel)
  • Goodnight, Irene: The Collected Stories of Irene Van de Kamp, Last Gasp, 2007. ISBN 978-0-86719-659-7. (collects the Irene Van de Camp stories from Good Girls plus a cover gallery and "About Face" (2006), a new 18-page story drawn for the collection)
  • The Big Skinny: How I Changed My Fattitude, A Memoir, Random House, 2008. ISBN 978-0-345-50404-3. (graphic novel/memoir/diet book, with recipes)
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Villanueva, Art (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "The Sound and the Flurry" Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 52 (February 2010), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Hellard, Alan (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "The Mystery of the Pesky Desk" Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 53 (April 2010), Bongo Comics
  • Simpsons Comics Get Some Fancy Book Learnin', Bongo Entertainment, 2010. ISBN 978-1-892849-30-4. (5-page story, new for the collection, Lisa and Maggie Simpson in "Pandora, Jr.")
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Hellard, Alan (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "Dirty Laundry" The Simpsons Summer Shindig 4 (May 2010), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Villanueva, Art (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "Fortunate Son" Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 54 (June 2010), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Hellard, Allan (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "The Princess Principle" Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 55 (August 2010), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Villaneuva, Art (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "The Generosity Gene" Simpsons Comics 170 (September 2010), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Hamill, Nathan (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "A Tomb With a View" Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 57 (December 2010), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Villanueva, Art (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "Pranks a Lot" Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 58 (February 2011), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Hamill, Nathan (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "Sleepless in Springfield" Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 59 (April 2011), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Villanueva, Art (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "Fur'n'Hate 451" The Simpsons Summer Shindig 5 (May 2011), Bongo Comics
  • Duggan, Gerry (w), Lay, Carol (a), Villanueva, Art (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "Mousery" Simpsons Comics 179 (June 2011), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Hamill, Nathan (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "Planet of the Plants" Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 61 (July 2011), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Hamill, Nathan (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "Guardian Snow Angel" The Simpsons Winter Wingding 6 (January 2012), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Villanueva, Art (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "Ralph Wiggum's Day Off" Ralph Wiggum One-Shot 1 (February 2012), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a)Rote, Mike (i), Villanueva, Art (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "The Social Fretwork" Simpsons Comics 190 (May 2012), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Hamill, Nathan (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "Tattoo You" Simpsons Summer Shindig 6 (June 2012), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Hamill, Nathan (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "Wedgie Issue" Bart Simpson 72 (June 2012), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Hamill, Nathan (col), Bates, Karen (let), Morrison, Bill (ed). "Children of the Corn Maze" Bart Simpson 73 (July 2012), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Hamill, Nathan (col), Bates, Karen (let), Kane, Nathan (ed). "Mean Genie" Li'l Homer 1 (August 2012), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Hamill, Nathan (col), Bates, Karen (let), Kane, Nathan (ed). "Decisions, Decisions" Bart Simpson 74 (August 2012), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Hamill, Nathan (col), Bates, Karen (let), Kane, Nathan (ed). "Scent of a Baby" Maggie 1 (October 2012), Bongo Comics
  • CAROL LAY'S ILLITERATURE: STORY MINUTES Volume One, Boom! Town, 2012. ISBN 978-1-60886-282-5. (Contains 103 STORY MINUTE strips from 1997 to 1999, plus an Introduction by Kim Deitch.)
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Hamill, Nathan (col), Bates, Karen (let), Kane, Nathan (ed). "Maggie and the Moon" Bart Simpson 80 (February 2013), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Villanueva, Art (col), Bates, Karen (let), Kane, Nathan (ed). "Maggie's Pancakes" Bart Simpson 81 (March 2013), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Villanueva, Art (col), Bates, Karen (let), Kane, Nathan (ed). "The Murder Party" Simpsons Comics 201 (April 2013), Bongo Comics
  • Lay, Carol (w, a), Lay, Carol (col), Lay, Carol (let), Lay, Carol (ed). "A Farewell to Armories" MURDERVILLE 1 -- 24 story pages + 4 front & back cover pages -- Kickstarter-funded, self-published (September 2013), Carol Lay
  • BART SIMPSON TO THE RESCUE, Harper, 2014. ISBN 978-0-06-230183-3. (Includes reprints of Carol Lay's SIMPSONS stories "The Mystery of the Pesky Desk", "Fortunate Son", "A Tomb With a View", and "Pranks a Lot".)
  • BART SIMPSON BLASTOFF, Harper, 2015. ISBN 978-0-06-236061-8. (Includes reprints of Carol Lay's SIMPSONS stories "Sleepless in Springfield", "The Princess Principle", and "The Planet of the Plants".)
  • SIMPSONS COMIC CLUBHOUSE, Harper, 2015, ISBN 978-0-06-236060-1. (Includes reprints of Carol Lay's SIMPSONS stories "Dirty Laundry", and "Fur 'n' Hate 451".)

References

  1. ^ Inkpot Award
  2. ^ . www.carollay.com. Archived from the original on 2016-03-08. Retrieved 2017-03-11.
  3. ^ a b "Talking to Carol Lay - Irene and More". Newsarama. July 19, 2007[dead link]
  4. ^ Carol Lay Wonder Woman: Mythos 2011-06-05 at the Wayback Machine, Pulse News, Comicon.com, May 15, 2003
  5. ^ Mason, Marc. "The Aisle Seat," 2016-01-10 at the Wayback Machine Comics Waiting Room. Accessed July 12, 2011.
  6. ^ Hoffmann, Curtis. Lay Lines GoComics List. Continually updated. Accessed April 12, 2016.

External links

  • Official website
  • at the Comic Book DB (archived from the original)

Interviews

  • Scene Missing Magazine (Nov. 2004)
  • Comics Journal (June 1999) (Contains two interviews with Carol Lay. The first, with Kent Worcester, covers her early biography, influences, and stylistic development. The second, with Kim Deitch, with whom she worked on the comic adaptation of the film Eating Raoul, is more personal.)

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Carol Lay born 1952 is an American alternative cartoonist best known for her weekly comic strip Story Minute later to evolve into the strip Way Lay which ran for almost 20 years in such US papers as the LA Weekly the NY Press and on Salon Lay has been drawing professionally for over 30 years Based in Los Angeles Lay s strips and illustrations have appeared in Entertainment Weekly Mad Newsweek Worth Magazine The New York Times The Wall Street Journal and The New Yorker Carol LayLay photographed in 2006Born1952 age 70 71 Whittier CaliforniaArea s CartoonistNotable worksWay LayGood GirlsThe Big SkinnyIlliteracyAwardsInkpot Award 1997 1 http www carollay com Contents 1 Biography 1 1 Early life 1 2 Career 2 Bibliography 3 References 4 External links 4 1 InterviewsBiography EditEarly life Edit Lay was born in Whittier California 2 In 1975 she graduated with a B F A in Fine Arts from UCLA 3 Career Edit After graduating from UCLA Lay entered the comics industry at DC Comics and Western Publishing while simultaneously writing and drawing underground comics for titles such as Weirdo and her own Good Girls 1 6 3 Lay s work including Story Minute appeared in alternative newsweeklies during the 1990s She is the author of Mythos a prose novel featuring Wonder Woman DC Pocket Books 2003 4 Goodnight Irene The Collected Stories of Irene Van de Kamp Last Gasp 2007 and The Big Skinny How I Changed My Fattitude a Memoir Villard 2008 5 From 2010 to 2013 Lay wrote and drew Simpsons stories for Bongo Comics In 2013 Lay created Murderville 1 A Farewell to Armories a self published small print run Kickstarter funded comic featuring twenty four pages of story plus four front amp back outside amp inside cover pages On January 26 2015 Carol Lay s Lay Lines page began on GoComics with a week long serialization of her story The Thing Under the Futon January 26 30 2015 followed by serializations of Now Endsville February 3 10 2015 and Invisible City April 12 June 26 2015 Lay Lines has also reprinted pages from Lay s weekly newspaper comic Story Minutes in color for the first time New Lay Lines comics feature followups to Murderville 6 Bibliography Edit Meeting Place by Carol Lay Lay Carol w a Reach Out and Touch Someone Pontiac Tempura July 1980 unknown publisher Lay Carol w a Binswanger Lee and LeMieux Kathryn ed The Mysogynist Wimmen s Comix 8 March 1983 Last Gasp Lay Carol as Cora Lloyd w a Bagge Peter ed Midwestern Wedding Weirdo 10 Summer 1984 Last Gasp Lay Carol w a Gilbert Erick ed Brainfood Cannibal Romances 1 1986 Last Gasp Bridwell E Nelson Cavalieri Joey Lay Carol w Lay Carol a Gafford Carl col Weiss David Cody as Cody let Thomas Roy ed The Oz Wonderland Wars 1 January 1986 DC Comics Bridwell E Nelson Cavalieri Joey Lay Carol w Lay Carol a Barube Liz col Lay Carol let Thomas Roy ed The Oz Wonderland Wars 2 February 1986 DC Comics Bridwell E Nelson Cavalieri Joey Lay Carol w Lay Carol a Barube Liz col Lay Carol let Thomas Roy ed The Oz Wonderland Wars 3 March 1986 DC Comics Lay Carol w a Good Girls 1 April 1987 Fantagraphics Books Hernandez Gilbert w a Lay Carol col Hernandez Gilbert let Groth Gary ed Heartbreak Soup Space Case Anything Goes 4 May 1987 The Comics Journal Lay Carol w a Good Girls 2 October 1987 Fantagraphics Books Lay Carol w a Good Girls 3 May 1988 Fantagraphics Books Lay Carol w a Good Girls 4 February 1989 Fantagraphics Books Lay Carol w a Kominsky Crumb Aline ed The Prince and the Art Girl Weirdo 27 Spring 1990 Last Gasp Lay Carol w a Good Girls 5 January 1991 Fantagraphics Books Lay Carol w a Good Girls 6 1991 Rip Off Press Lay Carol w a Kinney Jay ed Panty Raid Young Lust 8 1993 Last Gasp Lay Carol w a Schreiner Dave ed Now Endsville November 1993 Kitchen Sink Press ISBN 0 87816 235 6 Lay Carol w a Amara Phil ed Joy Ride January 1996 Kitchen Sink Press ISBN 0 87816 398 0 Lay Carol w a Couch Christopher ed Strip Joint September 1998 Kitchen Sink Press ISBN 0 87816 578 9 Wonder Woman Mythos Pocket Star 2003 ISBN 978 0 7434 1711 2 prose novel Goodnight Irene The Collected Stories of Irene Van de Kamp Last Gasp 2007 ISBN 978 0 86719 659 7 collects the Irene Van de Camp stories from Good Girls plus a cover gallery and About Face 2006 a new 18 page story drawn for the collection The Big Skinny How I Changed My Fattitude A Memoir Random House 2008 ISBN 978 0 345 50404 3 graphic novel memoir diet book with recipes Lay Carol w a Villanueva Art col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed The Sound and the Flurry Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 52 February 2010 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Hellard Alan col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed The Mystery of the Pesky Desk Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 53 April 2010 Bongo Comics Simpsons Comics Get Some Fancy Book Learnin Bongo Entertainment 2010 ISBN 978 1 892849 30 4 5 page story new for the collection Lisa and Maggie Simpson in Pandora Jr Lay Carol w a Hellard Alan col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed Dirty Laundry The Simpsons Summer Shindig 4 May 2010 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Villanueva Art col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed Fortunate Son Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 54 June 2010 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Hellard Allan col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed The Princess Principle Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 55 August 2010 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Villaneuva Art col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed The Generosity Gene Simpsons Comics 170 September 2010 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Hamill Nathan col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed A Tomb With a View Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 57 December 2010 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Villanueva Art col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed Pranks a Lot Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 58 February 2011 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Hamill Nathan col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed Sleepless in Springfield Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 59 April 2011 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Villanueva Art col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed Fur n Hate 451 The Simpsons Summer Shindig 5 May 2011 Bongo Comics Duggan Gerry w Lay Carol a Villanueva Art col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed Mousery Simpsons Comics 179 June 2011 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Hamill Nathan col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed Planet of the Plants Simpsons Comics Presents Bart Simpson 61 July 2011 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Hamill Nathan col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed Guardian Snow Angel The Simpsons Winter Wingding 6 January 2012 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Villanueva Art col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed Ralph Wiggum s Day Off Ralph Wiggum One Shot 1 February 2012 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Rote Mike i Villanueva Art col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed The Social Fretwork Simpsons Comics 190 May 2012 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Hamill Nathan col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed Tattoo You Simpsons Summer Shindig 6 June 2012 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Hamill Nathan col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed Wedgie Issue Bart Simpson 72 June 2012 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Hamill Nathan col Bates Karen let Morrison Bill ed Children of the Corn Maze Bart Simpson 73 July 2012 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Hamill Nathan col Bates Karen let Kane Nathan ed Mean Genie Li l Homer 1 August 2012 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Hamill Nathan col Bates Karen let Kane Nathan ed Decisions Decisions Bart Simpson 74 August 2012 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Hamill Nathan col Bates Karen let Kane Nathan ed Scent of a Baby Maggie 1 October 2012 Bongo Comics CAROL LAY S ILLITERATURE STORY MINUTES Volume One Boom Town 2012 ISBN 978 1 60886 282 5 Contains 103 STORY MINUTE strips from 1997 to 1999 plus an Introduction by Kim Deitch Lay Carol w a Hamill Nathan col Bates Karen let Kane Nathan ed Maggie and the Moon Bart Simpson 80 February 2013 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Villanueva Art col Bates Karen let Kane Nathan ed Maggie s Pancakes Bart Simpson 81 March 2013 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Villanueva Art col Bates Karen let Kane Nathan ed The Murder Party Simpsons Comics 201 April 2013 Bongo Comics Lay Carol w a Lay Carol col Lay Carol let Lay Carol ed A Farewell to Armories MURDERVILLE 1 24 story pages 4 front amp back cover pages Kickstarter funded self published September 2013 Carol Lay BART SIMPSON TO THE RESCUE Harper 2014 ISBN 978 0 06 230183 3 Includes reprints of Carol Lay s SIMPSONS stories The Mystery of the Pesky Desk Fortunate Son A Tomb With a View and Pranks a Lot BART SIMPSON BLASTOFF Harper 2015 ISBN 978 0 06 236061 8 Includes reprints of Carol Lay s SIMPSONS stories Sleepless in Springfield The Princess Principle and The Planet of the Plants SIMPSONS COMIC CLUBHOUSE Harper 2015 ISBN 978 0 06 236060 1 Includes reprints of Carol Lay s SIMPSONS stories Dirty Laundry and Fur n Hate 451 References Edit Inkpot Award Carol Lay About www carollay com Archived from the original on 2016 03 08 Retrieved 2017 03 11 a b Talking to Carol Lay Irene and More Newsarama July 19 2007 dead link Carol Lay Wonder Woman Mythos Archived 2011 06 05 at the Wayback Machine Pulse News Comicon com May 15 2003 Mason Marc The Aisle Seat Archived 2016 01 10 at the Wayback Machine Comics Waiting Room Accessed July 12 2011 Hoffmann Curtis Lay Lines GoComics List Continually updated Accessed April 12 2016 External links Edit Wikimedia Commons has media related to Carol Lay Official website Carol Lay at the Comic Book DB archived from the original Interviews Edit Scene Missing Magazine Nov 2004 Comics Journal June 1999 Contains two interviews with Carol Lay The first with Kent Worcester covers her early biography influences and stylistic development The second with Kim Deitch with whom she worked on the comic adaptation of the film Eating Raoul is more personal Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Carol Lay amp oldid 1142162092, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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