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Billy Williams (rugby, born 1905)

William Arthur Williams (29 December 1905 – 4 November 1973) was a Welsh dual-code international rugby union, and professional rugby league footballer who played in the 1920s and 1930s. He played representative level rugby union (RU) for Wales, and at club level for Crumlin and Cross Keys as a flanker,[1][2] and representative level rugby league (RL) for Great Britain and Wales, and at club level for Salford (captain), as a prop, or second-row, i.e. number 8 or 10, or, 11 or 12, during the era of contested scrums.[3][4]

Billy Williams
Personal information
Full nameWilliam Arthur Williams
Born(1905-12-29)29 December 1905
Crumlin, Monmouthshire, Wales
Died4 November 1973(1973-11-04) (aged 67)
Manchester, England
Playing information
Rugby union
PositionFlanker
Club
Years Team Pld T G FG P
Cross Keys RFC
Crumlin RFC
Total 0 0 0 0 0
Representative
Years Team Pld T G FG P
1927 Wales 4 0 0 0 0
Rugby league
PositionProp, Second-row
Club
Years Team Pld T G FG P
1927–38 Salford 425 42
Representative
Years Team Pld T G FG P
1930–33 Wales 3 0 0 0 0
1930–32 Great Britain 2 0 0 0 0
Source: [1][2][3]

Background Edit

Billy Williams was born in Crumlin, Monmouthshire, and he died aged 67 in Manchester, Lancashire, England.

Rugby career Edit

Williams first came to note as a rugby player when he represented rugby union team Cross Keys. By the time he was selected for international duty, he was playing for unfashionable lower league team Crumlin. The fact that Williams was, and still is, the only player to be selected for international duty directly from the club is an indicator to the talent he showed as a flanker. Williams played in four union internationals, all of them part of the 1927 Five Nations Championship. His first encounter was against England, played away at Twickenham. The game ended with a 9-11 loss, and despite the result Williams was re-selected for the next three games. Wales ended the Championship with just one win, a home match against France. It is unknown if Williams would have been selected the next season as in 1927 he switched to professional league club Salford. By switching to a professional club, Williams was not only banned from playing union again for life, but also had his union international cap withheld.

Williams played his first league game for Salford on 15 October 1927, and won three Championship and one Challenge Cup winners medals with the club over his career. On 15 January 1930, Williams was selected for the Great Britain team, to face a touring Australia side.[3] Just three days later he won his first Wales league cap, in a match against the same touring Australians at Wembley. He won two more caps for Wales, a 1932 encounter with England and a 1933 match against Australia. In-between his Welsh caps, Williams also toured Australia with Great Britain in 1932. He played in 15 games of the tour and one Test against Australia.

Williams died in Manchester in 1973; in 1975 his Wales rugby union cap was awarded to him posthumously under an 'amnesty'.

Les Diables Rouges Edit

Billy Williams was one of the players who successfully toured in France with Salford in 1934, during which the Salford team earned the name "Les Diables Rouges", the seventeen players were; Joe Bradbury, Bob Brown, Aubrey Casewell, Paddy Dalton, Bert Day, Cliff Evans, Jack Feetham, George Harris, Barney Hudson, Emlyn Jenkins, Alf Middleton, Sammy Miller, Harold Osbaldestin, Les Pearson, Gus Risman, Billy Watkins, and Billy Williams.[5]

Challenge Cup Final appearances Edit

Billy Watkins played left-prop, i.e. number 8, in Salford's 7-4 victory over Barrow in the 1938 Challenge Cup Final at Wembley Stadium, London, in front of a crowd of 51,243.

County Cup Final appearances Edit

About Billy Williams' time, there was Salford's 2-15 defeat by Warrington in the 1929 Lancashire Cup Final at Central Park, Wigan on Saturday 23 November 1929, the 10-8 victory over Swinton in the 1931 Lancashire Cup Final at The Cliff, Broughton, Salford on Saturday 21 November 1931, the 21-12 victory over Wigan in the 1934 Lancashire Cup Final at Station Road, Swinton on Saturday 20 October 1934, the 15-7 victory over Wigan in the 1935 Lancashire Cup Final at Wilderspool Stadium, Warrington on Saturday 19 October 1935, the 5-2 victory over Wigan in the 1936 Lancashire Cup Final at Wilderspool Stadium, Warrington on Saturday 17 October 1936.

References Edit

  1. ^ a b "Statistics at en.espn.co.uk (RU)". espn.co.uk. 31 December 2017. Retrieved 1 January 2018.
  2. ^ a b . wru.co.uk. 31 December 2017. Archived from the original on 17 February 2018. Retrieved 1 January 2018.
  3. ^ a b c "Statistics at rugbyleagueproject.org (RL)". rugbyleagueproject.org. 31 December 2017. Retrieved 1 January 2018.
  4. ^ Williams, Graham; Lush, Peter; Farrar, David (2009). The British Rugby League Records Book. London League. pp. 108–114. ISBN 978-1-903659-49-6.
  5. ^ . reds.co.uk. 31 December 2011. Archived from the original on 11 January 2012. Retrieved 1 January 2012.

Bibliography Edit

  • Gate, Robert (1986). Gone North: Volume 1. Ripponden: R.E. Gate. ISBN 0-9511190-0-1.
  • Jenkins, John M.; et al. (1991). Who's Who of Welsh International Rugby Players. Wrexham: Bridge Books. ISBN 1-872424-10-4.

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For other sportsmen of the same name see Billy Williams disambiguation and William Williams disambiguation William Arthur Williams 29 December 1905 4 November 1973 was a Welsh dual code international rugby union and professional rugby league footballer who played in the 1920s and 1930s He played representative level rugby union RU for Wales and at club level for Crumlin and Cross Keys as a flanker 1 2 and representative level rugby league RL for Great Britain and Wales and at club level for Salford captain as a prop or second row i e number 8 or 10 or 11 or 12 during the era of contested scrums 3 4 Billy WilliamsPersonal informationFull nameWilliam Arthur WilliamsBorn 1905 12 29 29 December 1905Crumlin Monmouthshire WalesDied4 November 1973 1973 11 04 aged 67 Manchester EnglandPlaying informationRugby unionPositionFlankerClubYears Team Pld T G FG PCross Keys RFCCrumlin RFCTotal 0 0 0 0 0RepresentativeYears Team Pld T G FG P1927 Wales 4 0 0 0 0Rugby leaguePositionProp Second rowClubYears Team Pld T G FG P1927 38 Salford 425 42RepresentativeYears Team Pld T G FG P1930 33 Wales 3 0 0 0 01930 32 Great Britain 2 0 0 0 0Source 1 2 3 Contents 1 Background 2 Rugby career 2 1 Les Diables Rouges 2 2 Challenge Cup Final appearances 2 3 County Cup Final appearances 3 References 4 BibliographyBackground EditBilly Williams was born in Crumlin Monmouthshire and he died aged 67 in Manchester Lancashire England Rugby career EditWilliams first came to note as a rugby player when he represented rugby union team Cross Keys By the time he was selected for international duty he was playing for unfashionable lower league team Crumlin The fact that Williams was and still is the only player to be selected for international duty directly from the club is an indicator to the talent he showed as a flanker Williams played in four union internationals all of them part of the 1927 Five Nations Championship His first encounter was against England played away at Twickenham The game ended with a 9 11 loss and despite the result Williams was re selected for the next three games Wales ended the Championship with just one win a home match against France It is unknown if Williams would have been selected the next season as in 1927 he switched to professional league club Salford By switching to a professional club Williams was not only banned from playing union again for life but also had his union international cap withheld Williams played his first league game for Salford on 15 October 1927 and won three Championship and one Challenge Cup winners medals with the club over his career On 15 January 1930 Williams was selected for the Great Britain team to face a touring Australia side 3 Just three days later he won his first Wales league cap in a match against the same touring Australians at Wembley He won two more caps for Wales a 1932 encounter with England and a 1933 match against Australia In between his Welsh caps Williams also toured Australia with Great Britain in 1932 He played in 15 games of the tour and one Test against Australia Williams died in Manchester in 1973 in 1975 his Wales rugby union cap was awarded to him posthumously under an amnesty Les Diables Rouges Edit Billy Williams was one of the players who successfully toured in France with Salford in 1934 during which the Salford team earned the name Les Diables Rouges the seventeen players were Joe Bradbury Bob Brown Aubrey Casewell Paddy Dalton Bert Day Cliff Evans Jack Feetham George Harris Barney Hudson Emlyn Jenkins Alf Middleton Sammy Miller Harold Osbaldestin Les Pearson Gus Risman Billy Watkins and Billy Williams 5 Challenge Cup Final appearances Edit Billy Watkins played left prop i e number 8 in Salford s 7 4 victory over Barrow in the 1938 Challenge Cup Final at Wembley Stadium London in front of a crowd of 51 243 County Cup Final appearances Edit About Billy Williams time there was Salford s 2 15 defeat by Warrington in the 1929 Lancashire Cup Final at Central Park Wigan on Saturday 23 November 1929 the 10 8 victory over Swinton in the 1931 Lancashire Cup Final at The Cliff Broughton Salford on Saturday 21 November 1931 the 21 12 victory over Wigan in the 1934 Lancashire Cup Final at Station Road Swinton on Saturday 20 October 1934 the 15 7 victory over Wigan in the 1935 Lancashire Cup Final at Wilderspool Stadium Warrington on Saturday 19 October 1935 the 5 2 victory over Wigan in the 1936 Lancashire Cup Final at Wilderspool Stadium Warrington on Saturday 17 October 1936 References Edit a b Statistics at en espn co uk RU espn co uk 31 December 2017 Retrieved 1 January 2018 a b Statistics at wru co uk RU wru co uk 31 December 2017 Archived from the original on 17 February 2018 Retrieved 1 January 2018 a b c Statistics at rugbyleagueproject org RL rugbyleagueproject org 31 December 2017 Retrieved 1 January 2018 Williams Graham Lush Peter Farrar David 2009 The British Rugby League Records Book London League pp 108 114 ISBN 978 1 903659 49 6 The story of The Original Red Devils reds co uk 31 December 2011 Archived from the original on 11 January 2012 Retrieved 1 January 2012 Bibliography EditGate Robert 1986 Gone North Volume 1 Ripponden R E Gate ISBN 0 9511190 0 1 Jenkins John M et al 1991 Who s Who of Welsh International Rugby Players Wrexham Bridge Books ISBN 1 872424 10 4 Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Billy Williams rugby born 1905 amp oldid 1135795465, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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