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Ben Gronow

Benjamin Gronow (10 March 1887[5] – 24 November 1967) was a Welsh dual-code international rugby union, and professional rugby league footballer who played in the 1900s, 1910s and 1920s. At club level Gronow played under the union code for Bridgend RFC, county rugby for Glamorgan, and international rugby for Wales. He was often used as a utility forward. When he switched to professional league rugby he represented Huddersfield (two spells), Grenfell, Batley and Featherstone Rovers (captain) (Heritage No. 82),[6] while at representative level, Gronow played for Great Britain and Wales. His playing position varied under the league code being used as a goal-kicking forward.[7]

Ben Gronow
Personal information
Full nameBenjamin Gronow
Born10 March 1887
Bridgend, Wales
Died24 November 1967(1967-11-24) (aged 80)
Huddersfield, West Riding of Yorkshire, England
Playing information
Rugby union
PositionForwards
Club
Years Team Pld T G FG P
190?–10 Bridgend
Glamorgan County
Total 0 0 0 0 0
Representative
Years Team Pld T G FG P
1910 Wales 4 1 0 0 3
Rugby league
PositionForward
Club
Years Team Pld T G FG P
1910–25 Huddersfield 392 80 667 0 1574
1926–27 Grenfell
1927–28 Huddersfield 3 0 6 0 12
1928–29 Batley 16 0 22 0 44
1929–30 Featherstone 23 2 43 0 92
Total 434 82 738 0 1722
Representative
Years Team Pld T G FG P
1910–23 Wales 8 0 9 0 18
1911–20 Great Britain 7 0 11 0 22
1921 Other Nationalities 2 1 5 0 13
Coaching information
Club
Years Team Gms W D L W%
Morley
Source: [1][2][3][4]

Playing career

While playing rugby union at Bridgend RFC, in 1910 Gronow won four caps for Wales. Gronow won eight caps for Wales under the league code, between 1910 and 1923 while playing for Huddersfield. Gronow was also capped for the Great Britain rugby league team while at Huddersfield, in 1911 against Australia (2 matches), and after being selected for the 1920 Great Britain Lions tour of Australasia, against Australia (2 matches), and New Zealand (3 matches).

Ben Gronow played as a forward in Huddersfield's 2–8 defeat by Wakefield Trinity in the 1910 Yorkshire Cup Final during the 1910–11 season at Headingley, Leeds on Saturday 3 December 1910, played as a forward and scored 4-goals in the 18–8 victory over Dewsbury in the 1919 Yorkshire County Cup Final during the 1918–19 season at Headingley, Leeds on Saturday 17 May 1919, played as a forward and scored 3-goals in the 24–5 victory over Leeds in the 1919 Yorkshire County Cup Final during the 1919–20 season at Thrum Hall, Halifax on Saturday 29 November 1919, and played as a forward and scored a goal in the 4–10 defeat by Hull F.C. in the 1923 Yorkshire County Cup Final during the 1923–24 season at Headingley, Leeds on Saturday 24 November 1923.

Gronow also played at least one game for the Other Nationalities team, on 5 February 1921 against England. The game was notable for the Other Nationalities side being entirely composed of Welsh players; but despite approaches to have the game recognised as a 'Wales' v England encounter the rugby league authorities refused to accept the request.[8] Gronow became one of less than twenty-five Welshmen to have scored more than 1000-points in their rugby league career.[9]

Gronow was selected for Great Britain while at Huddersfield for the 1924 Great Britain Lions tour of Australia and New Zealand, he did not play in any of the Test matches on this tour.[10]

In 1925 Gronow became the first British player to move down under when he went from Huddersfield to Grenfell, New South Wales as their coach but returned two years later.[11]

Ben Gronow made his début for Featherstone Rovers on Wednesday 13 March 1929.[12]

Ben Gronow appears to have scored no drop-goals (or field-goals as they are currently known in Australasia), but prior to the 1974–75 season all goals, whether; conversions, penalties, or drop-goals, scored 2-points, consequently prior to this date drop-goals were often not explicitly documented, therefore '0' drop-goals may indicate drop-goals not recorded, rather than no drop-goals scored. In addition, prior to the 1949–50 season, the archaic field-goal was also still a valid means of scoring points.

Coaching career

Gronow was the coach for rugby union team Morley R.F.C. in the 1930s, however when a history of the club was produced some years later, due to his previous rugby league associations, he was identified as 'unknown' in a team photograph.[13]

References

  1. ^ "Statistics at en.espn.co.uk (RU)". en.espn.co.uk. 31 December 2017. Retrieved 1 January 2018.
  2. ^ . wru.co.uk. 31 December 2017. Archived from the original on 8 March 2018. Retrieved 1 January 2018.
  3. ^ "Statistics at rugbyleagueproject.org". rugbyleagueproject.org. 31 December 2017. Retrieved 1 January 2018.
  4. ^ RL Record Keepers' Club
  5. ^ "Birth details at freebmd.org.uk". freebmd.org.uk. 31 December 2011. Retrieved 1 January 2012.
  6. ^ Bailey, Ron (1956). The Official History Of Featherstone Rovers R.L.F.C.. Wakefield Express. ASIN: B00O1TLDPC
  7. ^ Williams, Graham; Lush, Peter; Farrar, David (2009). The British Rugby League Records Book. London League. pp. 108–114. ISBN 978-1-903659-49-6.
  8. ^ Gate, Robert (1986). Gone North: Volume 1. Ripponden: R.E. Gate. p. 154. ISBN 0-9511190-0-1.
  9. ^ Robert Gate (1988). "Gone North – Volume 2". R. E. Gate. ISBN 0-9511190-3-6
  10. ^ "The Singapore Free Press and Mercantile Advertiser (1884–1942), 14 April 1924, Page 12". newspapers.nl.sg. 31 December 2011. Retrieved 1 January 2012.
  11. ^ Collins, Tony (2006). Rugby League in Twentieth Century Britain. UK: Routledge. p. 126. ISBN 0203088352.
  12. ^ Bailey, Ron (20 September 2001). Images of Sport - Featherstone Rovers Rugby League Football Club. The History Press. ISBN 0752422952
  13. ^ David Lawrenson (2007). "The Rugby League Miscellany [Page-59]". Vision Sports Publishing. ISBN 978-1-905326-30-3

External links

  • Statistics at bridgendravens.co.uk
  • (archived by archive.is) The Ben Gronow Mystery

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Benjamin Gronow 10 March 1887 5 24 November 1967 was a Welsh dual code international rugby union and professional rugby league footballer who played in the 1900s 1910s and 1920s At club level Gronow played under the union code for Bridgend RFC county rugby for Glamorgan and international rugby for Wales He was often used as a utility forward When he switched to professional league rugby he represented Huddersfield two spells Grenfell Batley and Featherstone Rovers captain Heritage No 82 6 while at representative level Gronow played for Great Britain and Wales His playing position varied under the league code being used as a goal kicking forward 7 Ben GronowPersonal informationFull nameBenjamin GronowBorn10 March 1887Bridgend WalesDied24 November 1967 1967 11 24 aged 80 Huddersfield West Riding of Yorkshire EnglandPlaying informationRugby unionPositionForwardsClubYears Team Pld T G FG P190 10 BridgendGlamorgan CountyTotal 0 0 0 0 0RepresentativeYears Team Pld T G FG P1910 Wales 4 1 0 0 3Rugby leaguePositionForwardClubYears Team Pld T G FG P1910 25 Huddersfield 392 80 667 0 15741926 27 Grenfell1927 28 Huddersfield 3 0 6 0 121928 29 Batley 16 0 22 0 441929 30 Featherstone 23 2 43 0 92Total 434 82 738 0 1722RepresentativeYears Team Pld T G FG P1910 23 Wales 8 0 9 0 181911 20 Great Britain 7 0 11 0 221921 Other Nationalities 2 1 5 0 13Coaching informationClubYears Team Gms W D L W MorleySource 1 2 3 4 Contents 1 Playing career 2 Coaching career 3 References 4 External linksPlaying career EditWhile playing rugby union at Bridgend RFC in 1910 Gronow won four caps for Wales Gronow won eight caps for Wales under the league code between 1910 and 1923 while playing for Huddersfield Gronow was also capped for the Great Britain rugby league team while at Huddersfield in 1911 against Australia 2 matches and after being selected for the 1920 Great Britain Lions tour of Australasia against Australia 2 matches and New Zealand 3 matches Ben Gronow played as a forward in Huddersfield s 2 8 defeat by Wakefield Trinity in the 1910 Yorkshire Cup Final during the 1910 11 season at Headingley Leeds on Saturday 3 December 1910 played as a forward and scored 4 goals in the 18 8 victory over Dewsbury in the 1919 Yorkshire County Cup Final during the 1918 19 season at Headingley Leeds on Saturday 17 May 1919 played as a forward and scored 3 goals in the 24 5 victory over Leeds in the 1919 Yorkshire County Cup Final during the 1919 20 season at Thrum Hall Halifax on Saturday 29 November 1919 and played as a forward and scored a goal in the 4 10 defeat by Hull F C in the 1923 Yorkshire County Cup Final during the 1923 24 season at Headingley Leeds on Saturday 24 November 1923 Gronow also played at least one game for the Other Nationalities team on 5 February 1921 against England The game was notable for the Other Nationalities side being entirely composed of Welsh players but despite approaches to have the game recognised as a Wales v England encounter the rugby league authorities refused to accept the request 8 Gronow became one of less than twenty five Welshmen to have scored more than 1000 points in their rugby league career 9 Gronow was selected for Great Britain while at Huddersfield for the 1924 Great Britain Lions tour of Australia and New Zealand he did not play in any of the Test matches on this tour 10 In 1925 Gronow became the first British player to move down under when he went from Huddersfield to Grenfell New South Wales as their coach but returned two years later 11 Ben Gronow made his debut for Featherstone Rovers on Wednesday 13 March 1929 12 Ben Gronow appears to have scored no drop goals or field goals as they are currently known in Australasia but prior to the 1974 75 season all goals whether conversions penalties or drop goals scored 2 points consequently prior to this date drop goals were often not explicitly documented therefore 0 drop goals may indicate drop goals not recorded rather than no drop goals scored In addition prior to the 1949 50 season the archaic field goal was also still a valid means of scoring points Coaching career EditGronow was the coach for rugby union team Morley R F C in the 1930s however when a history of the club was produced some years later due to his previous rugby league associations he was identified as unknown in a team photograph 13 References Edit Statistics at en espn co uk RU en espn co uk 31 December 2017 Retrieved 1 January 2018 Statistics at wru co uk RU wru co uk 31 December 2017 Archived from the original on 8 March 2018 Retrieved 1 January 2018 Statistics at rugbyleagueproject org rugbyleagueproject org 31 December 2017 Retrieved 1 January 2018 RL Record Keepers Club Birth details at freebmd org uk freebmd org uk 31 December 2011 Retrieved 1 January 2012 Bailey Ron 1956 The Official History Of Featherstone Rovers R L F C Wakefield Express ASIN B00O1TLDPC Williams Graham Lush Peter Farrar David 2009 The British Rugby League Records Book London League pp 108 114 ISBN 978 1 903659 49 6 Gate Robert 1986 Gone North Volume 1 Ripponden R E Gate p 154 ISBN 0 9511190 0 1 Robert Gate 1988 Gone North Volume 2 R E Gate ISBN 0 9511190 3 6 The Singapore Free Press and Mercantile Advertiser 1884 1942 14 April 1924 Page 12 newspapers nl sg 31 December 2011 Retrieved 1 January 2012 Collins Tony 2006 Rugby League in Twentieth Century Britain UK Routledge p 126 ISBN 0203088352 Bailey Ron 20 September 2001 Images of Sport Featherstone Rovers Rugby League Football Club The History Press ISBN 0752422952 David Lawrenson 2007 The Rugby League Miscellany Page 59 Vision Sports Publishing ISBN 978 1 905326 30 3External links EditStatistics at bridgendravens co uk archived by archive is The Ben Gronow Mystery Retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title Ben Gronow amp oldid 1165059191, wikipedia, wiki, book, books, library,

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